The War On Poverty: Lost

[PoliticalChic]

"You've never been able to articulate a plan that would have worked better."

My plan was to show that the war on poverty was lost....mission accomplished.

Now, as far as you giving up, trying to change the subject...

You remind me of nothing so much as Confederate General Wise, chased by Union General Cox, referring to his retreat a 'retrograde movement' of his troops.


Pretty funny, your retrograde movement.

I proved your premise was unsupported.

The war on poverty can as easily have kept things from being much worse,

which would make it a victory. You have offered nothing to refute that claim. Thus, my opinion carries just as much merit as yours.

While you've proven how stupid and dishonest you are, said proof was excessive and redundant.

Once I reduced you to petty off topic insults, the debate was over, and I won.

Once you are as rabidly insane as you clearly are, you owe it to the rest of the population to self-isolate.

Keep flailing with off topic insults, for all to see. They only make me look better.

Total darkness is the only thing that would make you look better.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Government regulation of business is called democracy

You might want to look up the definition of Democracy, sunshine.

You might want to think before posting. We live in a democratic republic. Yes, the COTUS is the law of the land, and the genius of this document created a government with checks and balances but one under the ultimate control of the people.

Of course the right wing disdains democracy for its members fear The People ("My God, he;s black!!!") and wants to have laws which restrict the manner in which The People elect their representatives. Hence, the current effort to restrict the right to vote.

Sinclair Lewis was spot on when he remarked:

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

The points posted above by Dr. Lawrence Britt and this quote by Sinclair Lewis describe the current iteration of the GOP and the Right Wing / Conservative movement. The evidence is probative to all thinking persons that the Right Wing in America is a fascist movement.

We are living in a time when a bloodless coup is occurring right before our eyes.

You've never been able to articulate a plan that would have worked better.

How would you have assisted low income Americans who needed healthcare for the last 50 years and got it from Medicaid?

"You've never been able to articulate a plan that would have worked better."

My plan was to show that the war on poverty was lost....mission accomplished.

Now, as far as you giving up, trying to change the subject...

You remind me of nothing so much as Confederate General Wise, chased by Union General Cox, referring to his retreat a 'retrograde movement' of his troops.


Pretty funny, your retrograde movement.

I proved your premise was unsupported.

The war on poverty can as easily have kept things from being much worse,

which would make it a victory. You have offered nothing to refute that claim. Thus, my opinion carries just as much merit as yours.

While you've proven how stupid and dishonest you are, said proof was excessive and redundant.

Once I reduced you to petty off topic insults, the debate was over, and I won.

Once you are as rabidly insane as you clearly are, you owe it to the rest of the population to self-isolate.

Once PC has posted obscure and extreme opinions gleaned from others, she's lost, and cannot debate - it demonstrates to all that she is a parrot and a diva, i.e. "a bitchy woman that must have her way exactly, or no way at all. often rude and belittles people and believes that everyone is beneath her" (quote from the Urban Dictionary).

 

[Dan Daly]

Government regulation of business is called democracy

You might want to look up the definition of Democracy, sunshine.

You might want to think before posting. We live in a democratic republic. Yes, the COTUS is the law of the land, and the genius of this document created a government with checks and balances but one under the ultimate control of the people.

Of course the right wing disdains democracy for its members fear The People ("My God, he;s black!!!") and wants to have laws which restrict the manner in which The People elect their representatives. Hence, the current effort to restrict the right to vote.

Sinclair Lewis was spot on when he remarked:

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

The points posted above by Dr. Lawrence Britt and this quote by Sinclair Lewis describe the current iteration of the GOP and the Right Wing / Conservative movement. The evidence is probative to all thinking persons that the Right Wing in America is a fascist movement.

We are living in a time when a bloodless coup is occurring right before our eyes.

"You've never been able to articulate a plan that would have worked better."

My plan was to show that the war on poverty was lost....mission accomplished.

Now, as far as you giving up, trying to change the subject...

You remind me of nothing so much as Confederate General Wise, chased by Union General Cox, referring to his retreat a 'retrograde movement' of his troops.


Pretty funny, your retrograde movement.

I proved your premise was unsupported.

The war on poverty can as easily have kept things from being much worse,

which would make it a victory. You have offered nothing to refute that claim. Thus, my opinion carries just as much merit as yours.

While you've proven how stupid and dishonest you are, said proof was excessive and redundant.

Once I reduced you to petty off topic insults, the debate was over, and I won.

Once you are as rabidly insane as you clearly are, you owe it to the rest of the population to self-isolate.

Once PC has posted obscure and extreme opinions gleaned from others, she's lost, and cannot debate - it demonstrates to all that she is a parrot and a diva, i.e. "a bitchy woman that must have her way exactly, or no way at all. often rude and belittles people and believes that everyone is beneath her" (quote from the Urban Dictionary).

Wow, all those words and you still haven't managed to support your utterly ignorant statement "Government regulation of business is called democracy". You did confirm that you are an idiot, though, and I should thank you for that.

FYI, we live in a Constitutional Republic, sunshine...though I don't expect you to understand what the difference is. Today there is a strong movement towards Idiocracy, and you seem to be one of the Idiocrats.

 

[TemplarKormac]

So long as the global economy is based on capitalism, you're always going to have poverty. It's the inevitible result of capitalist greed.

So, in socialism, instead of one group being in poverty, everyone is. Socialism implies prosperity, but nobody prospers. It's funny though, you benefit from "capitalist greed" all the time. Imagine that you lived under socialist policies, you wouldn't like it too much would you? You have never experienced socialism for yourself, and I bet if you were, you'd come crawling back to that evil capitalist system you so fervently despised.

Then, I suggest you ponder on this:

Equality is about giving everyone an equal chance, not an equal result.

 

[Dan Daly]

Equality is about giving everyone an equal chance, not an equal result.

That's not fair! I want to be a concert pianist for the Cleveland Orchestra...just because I have no talent, don't want to learn how to play the piano and wouldn't practice if I did should make no difference, they should hire me because my great-grandaddy stubbed his toe one time, in band camp.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Equality is about giving everyone an equal chance, not an equal result.

That's not fair! I want to be a concert pianist for the Cleveland Orchestra...just because I have no talent, don't want to learn how to play the piano and wouldn't practice if I did should make no difference, they should hire me because my great-grandaddy stubbed his toe one time, in band camp.

Well, save up your money my friend. Private lessons and podiatrists aren't cheap!

 

[TemplarKormac]

$22 Trillion later...

... Census will almost certainly proclaim that around 14 percent of Americans are still poor. The present poverty rate is almost exactly the same as it was in 1967 ....


As I said....the War On Poverty, Lost

You keep making a claim of $22 trillion spent...show me the math? It is a reasonable request. Nowhere in Robert Rector's "study" does he show the math or methodology.

No problem.

Scribd


Read the article and get back to me.

Reading without reflecting is like eating without digesting.
Edmund Burke

You need to take Burke's advice PC. You really are embarrassing yourself by not paying attention. You are too busy spreading your lies and propaganda. This was debunked over 50 posts ago...

The War On Poverty Lost Page 14 US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

$22 Trillion wasted, no decrease in the targeted problem...= failure.

You remain an 'i- squared'......and ideological idiot.

Step off.

SO...aid to communities recovering from natural disasters; money to enforce child support orders; programs that improve teachers' skills; money given to colleges and universities to strengthen their management and fiscal operations, and money that gives rural communities assistance upgrading their water and sewage systems is all part of the war on poverty...

SO...aid to communities recovering from natural disasters...

Aid to communities recovering from natural disasters... somehow I don't think you remember Detroit.

...money to enforce child support orders

You do realize some people only have children for the checks right? Poverty has a way of putting money before family...

programs that improve teachers' skills...

How does money help a teacher's skills anyway? If it did, don't you think our education system would be as crappy as it is now?

...money given to colleges and universities to strengthen their management and fiscal operations

Giving money to colleges only ensures they are bound to the government and its whims.

and money that gives rural communities assistance upgrading their water and sewage systems...

How does this relate to poverty? Even still, how much money will our government spend on reviving Detroit? Remember them?

...all part of the war on poverty.

Well, it's more like a war on prosperity if you ask me. Keeping people poor under the delusion they will someday prosper. How sad.

 

[Contumacious]

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

.

Fascism came to America , circa 1860 (first GRADUATED income Tax) with BIPARTISAN SUPPORT.

.

 

[Votto]

Because poverty is relative, there is no way to "win" a war on poverty.

Sure there is. Take the $22 trillion and give it to every man/woman/child in the US instead of letting greedy politicians redistribute it

That comes out to about $70,000 a peice.

Poverty solved.

 

[Dan Daly]

Because poverty is relative, there is no way to "win" a war on poverty.

Sure there is. Take the $22 trillion and give it to every man/woman/child in the US instead of letting greedy politicians redistribute it

That comes out to about $70,000 a peice.

Poverty solved.

For about a year...less if you give it to my youngest daughter.

 

[Votto]

Because poverty is relative, there is no way to "win" a war on poverty.

Sure there is. Take the $22 trillion and give it to every man/woman/child in the US instead of letting greedy politicians redistribute it

That comes out to about $70,000 a peice.

Poverty solved.

For about a year...less if you give it to my youngest daughter.

It beats what we have now.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Government regulation of business is called democracy

You might want to look up the definition of Democracy, sunshine.

You might want to think before posting. We live in a democratic republic. Yes, the COTUS is the law of the land, and the genius of this document created a government with checks and balances but one under the ultimate control of the people.

Of course the right wing disdains democracy for its members fear The People ("My God, he;s black!!!") and wants to have laws which restrict the manner in which The People elect their representatives. Hence, the current effort to restrict the right to vote.

Sinclair Lewis was spot on when he remarked:

"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."

The points posted above by Dr. Lawrence Britt and this quote by Sinclair Lewis describe the current iteration of the GOP and the Right Wing / Conservative movement. The evidence is probative to all thinking persons that the Right Wing in America is a fascist movement.

We are living in a time when a bloodless coup is occurring right before our eyes.

I proved your premise was unsupported.

The war on poverty can as easily have kept things from being much worse,

which would make it a victory. You have offered nothing to refute that claim. Thus, my opinion carries just as much merit as yours.

While you've proven how stupid and dishonest you are, said proof was excessive and redundant.

Once I reduced you to petty off topic insults, the debate was over, and I won.

Once you are as rabidly insane as you clearly are, you owe it to the rest of the population to self-isolate.

Once PC has posted obscure and extreme opinions gleaned from others, she's lost, and cannot debate - it demonstrates to all that she is a parrot and a diva, i.e. "a bitchy woman that must have her way exactly, or no way at all. often rude and belittles people and believes that everyone is beneath her" (quote from the Urban Dictionary).

Wow, all those words and you still haven't managed to support your utterly ignorant statement "Government regulation of business is called democracy". You did confirm that you are an idiot, though, and I should thank you for that.

FYI, we live in a Constitutional Republic, sunshine...though I don't expect you to understand what the difference is. Today there is a strong movement towards Idiocracy, and you seem to be one of the Idiocrats.

Where did I write, ""Government regulation of business is called democracy".? Those are your words made up of straw. That is pretty desperate, come on, you can do better than lie, can't you?

Government of the people, by the people and for the people regulates business via laws and regulations; democracy, that is the power of the people to change course, does so by changing those who make the rules and regulations. That change occurs every two years on the Federal Level via the democratic process (voting)

Of course the balance has been upset, voters usually kept us on an even keel; today with the weight of Citizens United, et al Supreme Court split decisions, and the development of skilled propagandists, our ship of state lists too far starboard. We are risking the very thing Franklin warned us about, losing our Republic; we are becoming a 21st Century Constitutional Plutocracy; ruled by the Power Elite and the five members of the Supreme Court who do their bidding.

Those who support voter suppression based on the canard fostered by the GOP and their fellow travelers need to heed this:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

 

[Dan Daly]

Where did I write, ""Government regulation of business is called democracy".?

My bad, when you replied to my reply to Bfgrn, I must have mistook you for him. But that doesn't change my reply to the nonsense you wrote in response in an obvious attempt to defend what Bfgrn wrote, nor does it make your follow up less nonsensical. It's like you post walls of words that only you can decipher just so you can bask in reading your own words on a screen.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Where did I write, ""Government regulation of business is called democracy".?

My bad, when you replied to my reply to Bfgrn, I must have mistook you for him. But that doesn't change my reply to the nonsense you wrote in response in an obvious attempt to defend what Bfgrn wrote, nor does it make your follow up less nonsensical. It's like you post walls of words that only you can decipher just so you can bask in reading your own words on a screen.

With all due respect (actually, I have none for you, but I digress), your silly little ad hominems would even put PoliticalChic to shame, you have nothing to offer but personal attacks and even those are weak. Find a new hobby, one which doesn't require critical thinking, a solid education and the ability to write a concise, clear and thoughtful post.

Suggesting mine suck is all you've got, that makes you an annoyance and nothing more.

 

[Dan Daly]

Where did I write, ""Government regulation of business is called democracy".?

My bad, when you replied to my reply to Bfgrn, I must have mistook you for him. But that doesn't change my reply to the nonsense you wrote in response in an obvious attempt to defend what Bfgrn wrote.

Where did I write, ""Government regulation of business is called democracy".?

My bad, when you replied to my reply to Bfgrn, I must have mistook you for him. But that doesn't change my reply to the nonsense you wrote in response in an obvious attempt to defend what Bfgrn wrote, nor does it make your follow up less nonsensical. It's like you post walls of words that only you can decipher just so you can bask in reading your own words on a screen.

With all due respect (actually, I have none for you, but I digress), your silly little ad hominems would even put PoliticalChic to shame, you have nothing to offer but personal attacks and even those are weak. Find a new hobby, one which doesn't require critical thinking, a solid education and the ability to write a concise, clear and thoughtful post.

Suggesting mine suck is all you've got, that makes you an annoyance and nothing more.

In other words, while I am human enough to admit my mistakes, you don't share the same character traits. Got it, good to know who is worthy of intelligent debate and who should treated as just another mindless hack who likes reading his own words on a screen. When you think you can say something relevant and intelligent, let me know, and I might consider giving you another chance to show you are at least one notch smarter than a rock, dipshit.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Where did I write, ""Government regulation of business is called democracy".?

My bad, when you replied to my reply to Bfgrn, I must have mistook you for him. But that doesn't change my reply to the nonsense you wrote in response in an obvious attempt to defend what Bfgrn wrote.

Where did I write, ""Government regulation of business is called democracy".?

My bad, when you replied to my reply to Bfgrn, I must have mistook you for him. But that doesn't change my reply to the nonsense you wrote in response in an obvious attempt to defend what Bfgrn wrote, nor does it make your follow up less nonsensical. It's like you post walls of words that only you can decipher just so you can bask in reading your own words on a screen.

With all due respect (actually, I have none for you, but I digress), your silly little ad hominems would even put PoliticalChic to shame, you have nothing to offer but personal attacks and even those are weak. Find a new hobby, one which doesn't require critical thinking, a solid education and the ability to write a concise, clear and thoughtful post.

Suggesting mine suck is all you've got, that makes you an annoyance and nothing more.

In other words, while I am human enough to admit my mistakes, you don't share the same character traits. Got it, good to know who is worthy of intelligent debate and who should treated as just another mindless hack who likes reading his own words on a screen. When you think you can say something relevant and intelligent, let me know, and I might consider giving you another chance to show you are at least one notch smarter than a rock, dipshit.

LOL, and thank you so much for proving, "you have nothing to offer but personal attacks and even those are weak. Find a new hobby, one which doesn't require critical thinking, a solid education and the ability to write a concise, clear and thoughtful post."

 

[Dan Daly]

Where did I write, ""Government regulation of business is called democracy".?

My bad, when you replied to my reply to Bfgrn, I must have mistook you for him. But that doesn't change my reply to the nonsense you wrote in response in an obvious attempt to defend what Bfgrn wrote.

Where did I write, ""Government regulation of business is called democracy".?

My bad, when you replied to my reply to Bfgrn, I must have mistook you for him. But that doesn't change my reply to the nonsense you wrote in response in an obvious attempt to defend what Bfgrn wrote, nor does it make your follow up less nonsensical. It's like you post walls of words that only you can decipher just so you can bask in reading your own words on a screen.

With all due respect (actually, I have none for you, but I digress), your silly little ad hominems would even put PoliticalChic to shame, you have nothing to offer but personal attacks and even those are weak. Find a new hobby, one which doesn't require critical thinking, a solid education and the ability to write a concise, clear and thoughtful post.

Suggesting mine suck is all you've got, that makes you an annoyance and nothing more.

In other words, while I am human enough to admit my mistakes, you don't share the same character traits. Got it, good to know who is worthy of intelligent debate and who should treated as just another mindless hack who likes reading his own words on a screen. When you think you can say something relevant and intelligent, let me know, and I might consider giving you another chance to show you are at least one notch smarter than a rock, dipshit.

LOL, and thank you so much for proving, "you have nothing to offer but personal attacks and even those are weak. Find a new hobby, one which doesn't require critical thinking, a solid education and the ability to write a concise, clear and thoughtful post."

You still haven't managed to support your attempted defense of BFGRN's "Government regulation of business is called democracy". So forgive me if I simply laugh at your faux offense. If you don't want to be considered an idiot, don't be one, sunshine.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Where did I write, ""Government regulation of business is called democracy".?

My bad, when you replied to my reply to Bfgrn, I must have mistook you for him. But that doesn't change my reply to the nonsense you wrote in response in an obvious attempt to defend what Bfgrn wrote.

Where did I write, ""Government regulation of business is called democracy".?

My bad, when you replied to my reply to Bfgrn, I must have mistook you for him. But that doesn't change my reply to the nonsense you wrote in response in an obvious attempt to defend what Bfgrn wrote, nor does it make your follow up less nonsensical. It's like you post walls of words that only you can decipher just so you can bask in reading your own words on a screen.

With all due respect (actually, I have none for you, but I digress), your silly little ad hominems would even put PoliticalChic to shame, you have nothing to offer but personal attacks and even those are weak. Find a new hobby, one which doesn't require critical thinking, a solid education and the ability to write a concise, clear and thoughtful post.

Suggesting mine suck is all you've got, that makes you an annoyance and nothing more.

In other words, while I am human enough to admit my mistakes, you don't share the same character traits. Got it, good to know who is worthy of intelligent debate and who should treated as just another mindless hack who likes reading his own words on a screen. When you think you can say something relevant and intelligent, let me know, and I might consider giving you another chance to show you are at least one notch smarter than a rock, dipshit.

LOL, and thank you so much for proving, "you have nothing to offer but personal attacks and even those are weak. Find a new hobby, one which doesn't require critical thinking, a solid education and the ability to write a concise, clear and thoughtful post."

You still haven't managed to support your attempted defense of BFGRN's "Government regulation of business is called democracy". So forgive me if I simply laugh at your faux offense. If you don't want to be considered an idiot, don't be one, sunshine.

Read slowly asshole, your effort to censor my response is easily noted by those who read without bias and with comprehension, all one needs to do is look back at the words I wrote which you omitted that followed, ""Government regulation of business is called democracy".?

Calling me an idiot is the best you can do, simply because my proffered explanation was beyond your comprehension and challenged the little box of dogma you hold to be true; you have graduated to the rank of Rabbi, CrusaderFrank and the rest of the echo chamber - those who post even though they have nothing to offer.

 

[Dan Daly]

Where did I write, ""Government regulation of business is called democracy".?

My bad, when you replied to my reply to Bfgrn, I must have mistook you for him. But that doesn't change my reply to the nonsense you wrote in response in an obvious attempt to defend what Bfgrn wrote.

My bad, when you replied to my reply to Bfgrn, I must have mistook you for him. But that doesn't change my reply to the nonsense you wrote in response in an obvious attempt to defend what Bfgrn wrote, nor does it make your follow up less nonsensical. It's like you post walls of words that only you can decipher just so you can bask in reading your own words on a screen.

With all due respect (actually, I have none for you, but I digress), your silly little ad hominems would even put PoliticalChic to shame, you have nothing to offer but personal attacks and even those are weak. Find a new hobby, one which doesn't require critical thinking, a solid education and the ability to write a concise, clear and thoughtful post.

Suggesting mine suck is all you've got, that makes you an annoyance and nothing more.

In other words, while I am human enough to admit my mistakes, you don't share the same character traits. Got it, good to know who is worthy of intelligent debate and who should treated as just another mindless hack who likes reading his own words on a screen. When you think you can say something relevant and intelligent, let me know, and I might consider giving you another chance to show you are at least one notch smarter than a rock, dipshit.

LOL, and thank you so much for proving, "you have nothing to offer but personal attacks and even those are weak. Find a new hobby, one which doesn't require critical thinking, a solid education and the ability to write a concise, clear and thoughtful post."

You still haven't managed to support your attempted defense of BFGRN's "Government regulation of business is called democracy". So forgive me if I simply laugh at your faux offense. If you don't want to be considered an idiot, don't be one, sunshine.

Read slowly asshole, your effort to censor my response is easily noted by those who read without bias and with comprehension, all one needs to do is look back at the words I wrote which you omitted that followed, ""Government regulation of business is called democracy".?

Calling me an idiot is the best you can do, simply because my proffered explanation was beyond your comprehension and challenged the little box of dogma you hold to be true; you have graduated to the rank of Rabbi, CrusaderFrank and the rest of the echo chamber - those who post even though they have nothing to offer.

Still stroking your own ego reading your own wall of words I see. Sorry, didn't bother reading it...still think you are an idiot. Have a nice day...and if you think you have something worthwhile to say, please highlight it in an brief, concise executive summary so we can decide it is worth wading into rest of your bullshit. Thanks. Have a nice day.

 

[Wry Catcher]

My bad, when you replied to my reply to Bfgrn, I must have mistook you for him. But that doesn't change my reply to the nonsense you wrote in response in an obvious attempt to defend what Bfgrn wrote.

With all due respect (actually, I have none for you, but I digress), your silly little ad hominems would even put PoliticalChic to shame, you have nothing to offer but personal attacks and even those are weak. Find a new hobby, one which doesn't require critical thinking, a solid education and the ability to write a concise, clear and thoughtful post.

Suggesting mine suck is all you've got, that makes you an annoyance and nothing more.

In other words, while I am human enough to admit my mistakes, you don't share the same character traits. Got it, good to know who is worthy of intelligent debate and who should treated as just another mindless hack who likes reading his own words on a screen. When you think you can say something relevant and intelligent, let me know, and I might consider giving you another chance to show you are at least one notch smarter than a rock, dipshit.

LOL, and thank you so much for proving, "you have nothing to offer but personal attacks and even those are weak. Find a new hobby, one which doesn't require critical thinking, a solid education and the ability to write a concise, clear and thoughtful post."

You still haven't managed to support your attempted defense of BFGRN's "Government regulation of business is called democracy". So forgive me if I simply laugh at your faux offense. If you don't want to be considered an idiot, don't be one, sunshine.

Read slowly asshole, your effort to censor my response is easily noted by those who read without bias and with comprehension, all one needs to do is look back at the words I wrote which you omitted that followed, ""Government regulation of business is called democracy".?

Calling me an idiot is the best you can do, simply because my proffered explanation was beyond your comprehension and challenged the little box of dogma you hold to be true; you have graduated to the rank of Rabbi, CrusaderFrank and the rest of the echo chamber - those who post even though they have nothing to offer.

Still stroking your own ego reading your own wall of words I see. Sorry, didn't bother reading it...still think you are an idiot. Have a nice day...and if you think you have something worthwhile to say, please highlight it in an brief, concise executive summary so we can decide it is worth wading into rest of your bullshit. Thanks. Have a nice day.

You didn't bother to read it, noteworthy.

Yet, I will take your advice and post a highlighted concise and substantive response:

You're not only an asshole, you're an arrogant asshole with nothing of substance to post. Clear, concise and spot on.