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The Pentagon and even West Point have classes where they analyze and critique previous wars to help future military officers avoid the mistakes of the past.Too late for the blame game.
I'm taken with the notion of fighting the ghost in the forest.
I've heard you mention ghosts in the forrest twice in this thread. The VC and the NVA weren't ghosts, but were a very capable well trained enemy; and the land was mainly composed of rice paddy's and jungles. ...
I'll mention it three times, four, if you'd like.
That phrase was mentioned by an ex soldier who had actually participated in that war. It summed up, for me, the impossibility of fighting an enemy you couldn't recognise or identify. The kind that embeddied itself within communities of men women and children.
Similar to certain practices of today. But we won't go there. It might start you off.
The VC were completely crushed in the failed TET offensive; the NVA and the North were in constant violation of the international laws regarding the demilitarized zone, along with the smuggling through Laos via the Ho Chi Minh Trail, yet no commie sympathizers ever said word one about any of that for year,s just sniveled about the U.S. and it's alleged 'illegal acts', which of course were not even remotely comparable to the VC or Ho's lot of scumbag thugs.
You can thank J Kennedy and L Johnson for that fiasco, not to mention Truman who should of told France to fuck off when Ho Chi asked for Vietnams freedom...France got their ass handed to them again, JFK sent in troops to see how bad, France bailed out, like the pussies they are, then LBJ went full war monger, so his military buddies could make billions while killing off young men, making his economy look better..A failed military escapade that cost 50,000 American lives.
Disgusting!
The VC were completely crushed in the failed TET offensive; the NVA and the North were in constant violation of the international laws regarding the demilitarized zone, along with the smuggling through Laos via the Ho Chi Minh Trail, yet no commie sympathizers ever said word one about any of that for year,s just sniveled about the U.S. and it's alleged 'illegal acts', which of course were not even remotely comparable to the VC or Ho's lot of scumbag thugs.
IYO, do you think the PBS gave an accurate presentation of those events?
You can thank J Kennedy and L Johnson for that fiasco, not to mention Truman who should of told France to fuck off when Ho Chi asked for Vietnams freedom...France got their ass handed to them again, JFK sent in troops to see how bad, France bailed out, like the pussies they are, then LBJ went full war monger, so his military buddies could make billions while killing off young men, making his economy look better..A failed military escapade that cost 50,000 American lives.
Disgusting!
oh and dont forget Dick Nixon.He expanded the war his buddy LBJ started.
You can thank J Kennedy and L Johnson for that fiasco, not to mention Truman who should of told France to fuck off when Ho Chi asked for Vietnams freedom...France got their ass handed to them again, JFK sent in troops to see how bad, France bailed out, like the pussies they are, then LBJ went full war monger, so his military buddies could make billions while killing off young men, making his economy look better..A failed military escapade that cost 50,000 American lives.
Disgusting!
oh and dont forget Dick Nixon.He expanded the war his buddy LBJ started.
Bullshit!!!!!
You know nothing. It looks like the only thing you know about the war is what you saw in a movie or read on some anti war protestor's placard.
Nixon withdrew the combat troops from Vietnam and forced the commies into a peace agreement.
When I got sent over in 1967 I was part of LBJs buildup. When I left in 1970 I was part of Nixon's draw down.
It's no secret that the CIA was running the Vietnam war. How did it work out? I don't get the part where the media allegedly exposed LBJ's deceit? As I recall the media blamed the whole thing on Nixon.Wow! Revisionist bs!LBJ sent Troops to Vietnam on a faked bogus "crisis". The knee jerk media backed him at first like they back all democrats and he set the rules so that the U.S. could win every battle and still lose the war. Just when it seemed that the strategy of wearing down the V.C. might be working, LBJ quit the effort and gave General Giap breathing room and recruiting opportunities. Meanwhile unelected and unappointed clerks in the CIA were in charge and the Generals stood back and took the flack.
It was the media that exposed his deceit . and he was still a great man and a great president
and facts are it was the CIA that warned about a losing battle to win the war,.
get yer facts straight troll man
It's no secret that the CIA was running the Vietnam war. How did it work out? I don't get the part where the media allegedly exposed LBJ's deceit? As I recall the media blamed the whole thing on Nixon.Wow! Revisionist bs!LBJ sent Troops to Vietnam on a faked bogus "crisis". The knee jerk media backed him at first like they back all democrats and he set the rules so that the U.S. could win every battle and still lose the war. Just when it seemed that the strategy of wearing down the V.C. might be working, LBJ quit the effort and gave General Giap breathing room and recruiting opportunities. Meanwhile unelected and unappointed clerks in the CIA were in charge and the Generals stood back and took the flack.
It was the media that exposed his deceit . and he was still a great man and a great president
and facts are it was the CIA that warned about a losing battle to win the war,.
get yer facts straight troll man
You can thank J Kennedy and L Johnson for that fiasco, not to mention Truman who should of told France to fuck off when Ho Chi asked for Vietnams freedom...France got their ass handed to them again, JFK sent in troops to see how bad, France bailed out, like the pussies they are, then LBJ went full war monger, so his military buddies could make billions while killing off young men, making his economy look better..A failed military escapade that cost 50,000 American lives.
Disgusting!
oh and dont forget Dick Nixon.He expanded the war his buddy LBJ started.
Bullshit!!!!!
You know nothing. It looks like the only thing you know about the war is what you saw in a movie or read on some anti war protestor's placard.
Nixon withdrew the combat troops from Vietnam and forced the commies into a peace agreement.
When I got sent over in 1967 I was part of LBJs buildup. When I left in 1970 I was part of Nixon's draw down.
Without the bombing, as well as the supposedly 'illegal' actions in Cambodia and Laos, they would never have come to the table. As it was, they left our allies alone, with only their fellow criminal mass murderer Pol Pot's country to play with; and even there the Vietnamese put a crimp in their one gain.
You can thank J Kennedy and L Johnson for that fiasco, not to mention Truman who should of told France to fuck off when Ho Chi asked for Vietnams freedom...France got their ass handed to them again, JFK sent in troops to see how bad, France bailed out, like the pussies they are, then LBJ went full war monger, so his military buddies could make billions while killing off young men, making his economy look better..A failed military escapade that cost 50,000 American lives.
Disgusting!
oh and dont forget Dick Nixon.He expanded the war his buddy LBJ started.
Bullshit!!!!!
You know nothing. It looks like the only thing you know about the war is what you saw in a movie or read on some anti war protestor's placard.
Nixon withdrew the combat troops from Vietnam and forced the commies into a peace agreement.
When I got sent over in 1967 I was part of LBJs buildup. When I left in 1970 I was part of Nixon's draw down.
Without the bombing, as well as the supposedly 'illegal' actions in Cambodia and Laos, they would never have come to the table. As it was, they left our allies alone, with only their fellow criminal mass murderer Pol Pot's country to play with; and even there the Vietnamese put a crimp in their one gain.
You are confuse. That is what happens when you get history lessons from Hollywood and the Libtard press.
LBJ had this stupid idea of of fighting the war in South Vietnam on the Commie's terms. That resulted in tens of thousands more casualties than there should have been.
Nixon essentially withdrew the American combat troops from South Vietnam and took the war to the fucking commies. Yes that included stopping the the supplies from coming down the HCM Trail in Laos and Cambodia and that was a good thing. He also bombed the shit out of the north and that was a good thing.
It forced the assholes to give up and sign the Paris Peace Accords, which should have been the end of the war with the South remaining sovereign.
Good plan until the shithead Democrats, aided by a few weak minded Republicans, passed that filthy ass Case Church bill to defund military aid to the South. That was a green light for the North to resume the war and they did. Big time.
Another great example of how the Democrats fuck up everything. They couldn't stand the idea of the Communists losing and handed them the victory that they could not get on the battlefield. The deaths in the killing fields of Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam are all on the hands of the Democrats that didn't have the courage to do the right thing. Shame on them!
your recollections are faulty. you should get a check upIt's no secret that the CIA was running the Vietnam war. How did it work out? I don't get the part where the media allegedly exposed LBJ's deceit? As I recall the media blamed the whole thing on Nixon.Wow! Revisionist bs!LBJ sent Troops to Vietnam on a faked bogus "crisis". The knee jerk media backed him at first like they back all democrats and he set the rules so that the U.S. could win every battle and still lose the war. Just when it seemed that the strategy of wearing down the V.C. might be working, LBJ quit the effort and gave General Giap breathing room and recruiting opportunities. Meanwhile unelected and unappointed clerks in the CIA were in charge and the Generals stood back and took the flack.
It was the media that exposed his deceit . and he was still a great man and a great president
and facts are it was the CIA that warned about a losing battle to win the war,.
get yer facts straight troll man
Next I blame the top military leadership, specifically General Westmoreland, for his out of touch strategy to win the war. ....
It's no secret that the CIA was running the Vietnam war. How did it work out? I don't get the part where the media allegedly exposed LBJ's deceit? As I recall the media blamed the whole thing on Nixon.Wow! Revisionist bs!LBJ sent Troops to Vietnam on a faked bogus "crisis". The knee jerk media backed him at first like they back all democrats and he set the rules so that the U.S. could win every battle and still lose the war. Just when it seemed that the strategy of wearing down the V.C. might be working, LBJ quit the effort and gave General Giap breathing room and recruiting opportunities. Meanwhile unelected and unappointed clerks in the CIA were in charge and the Generals stood back and took the flack.
It was the media that exposed his deceit . and he was still a great man and a great president
and facts are it was the CIA that warned about a losing battle to win the war,.
get yer facts straight troll man
You can thank J Kennedy and L Johnson for that fiasco, not to mention Truman who should of told France to fuck off when Ho Chi asked for Vietnams freedom...France got their ass handed to them again, JFK sent in troops to see how bad, France bailed out, like the pussies they are, then LBJ went full war monger, so his military buddies could make billions while killing off young men, making his economy look better..A failed military escapade that cost 50,000 American lives.
Disgusting!
oh and dont forget Dick Nixon.He expanded the war his buddy LBJ started.
Bullshit!!!!!
You know nothing. It looks like the only thing you know about the war is what you saw in a movie or read on some anti war protestor's placard.
Nixon withdrew the combat troops from Vietnam and forced the commies into a peace agreement.
When I got sent over in 1967 I was part of LBJs buildup. When I left in 1970 I was part of Nixon's draw down.
Without the bombing, as well as the supposedly 'illegal' actions in Cambodia and Laos, they would never have come to the table. As it was, they left our allies alone, with only their fellow criminal mass murderer Pol Pot's country to play with; and even there the Vietnamese put a crimp in their one gain.
Lets not forget the over 1 million mostly innocent hillbilly Vietnamese like the ones " "Maverick' McCain bombed at a light bulb factory when they shot the arrogant fucker down and stuck his dumb ass in a dog kennel.A failed military escapade that cost 50,000 American lives.
Disgusting!