The Vibe Shifts Against the Right

[Vrenn]

OMG berg take a break, the dogs don't like the democrat dog food.

Democrats are TOXIC, face facts. Whining about Trump isn't winning any voters.

The Constitution doesn't say anything about medical research, does it?

That's what pharmaceutical companies do for a living, DUH.

You Magats aren't supposed to understand. Now get back under that rock from whence you came and your NEWSMAX cable is available.

 

[Skylar]

Poor Skylar. This is one of those posts that's going to come back to haunt you. What you call "amateur-hour" is actually an Administration that is laser focused on getting the agenda that Donald Trump ran on accomplished. Now you may not LIKE that agenda but saying that they don't know exactly what it is that they are attempting to accomplish is silly! They do and they are moving to make that agenda a reality faster than any administration I've ever seen. Democrats are back on their heels...disorganized and confused about what their path is going forward. They've lost the working class. They've lost huge swaths of the Hispanic and black vote. They've lost a huge portion of the Gen Z vote. Trump has built a conservative coalition unlike any I've seen in my life time. It is going to get worse for you. My advice? Instead of obsessing about Trump? Spend some time thinking about where the left is right now! On issue after issue...you're on the wrong side of 80/20 issues. You've become the party of Coastal Elites and illegals. That's a loser and it's got nothing to do with anything that Trump is doing!

Notice you don't actually disagree with any specific point I've made.

Try again.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Then convict them of a crime related to them being here illegally. But you didn't, did you?

Instead, 180 of them have been snatched off the streets and thrown into foreign gulags for indefinite incarceration despite NO convictions of any crimes, NO charges, NO legal representation, NO hearings, NO arraignments, NO sentencing, NO trial.

Just snatched, sent and imprisoned. And per MAGA, beyond judicial review.

Y'all don't even give lip service to freedom, liberty or the rule of law anymore.

Ignoring the rule of law is why those dangerous illegals were in the country to start with, Skylar!

 

[Cellblock2429]

Nathan Cofnas, a right-wing philosophy professor and self-described “race realist” fixated on group differences in I.Q., wrote on X, “All over the world, almost everyone with more than half a brain is looking at the disaster of Trump (along with Putin, Yoon Suk Yeol, et al.) and drawing the very reasonable conclusion that right-wing, anti-woke parties are incapable of effective governance.” (Yoon Suk Yeol is South Korea’s recently impeached president.)

Scott Siskind, who blogs under the pseudonym Scott Alexander, has been an influential figure in Silicon Valley’s revolt against social justice ideology, though he’s never been a Trump supporter. Last week, he asked whether “edgy heterodox centrists” like himself paved the way for Trump by opening the door to once-verboten arguments. In an imaginary Socratic dialogue, he wrote, “We wanted a swift, lean government that stopped strangling innovation and infrastructure. Instead we got chain-saw-style firings, total devastation of state capacity in exactly the way most likely to strangle innovation more than ever, and the worst and dumbest people in the world gloating about how they solved the ‘grift’ of sending lifesaving medications to dying babies.”

Opinion | The Vibe Shifts Against the Right

People who once found right-wing ideas scintillating are having second thoughts as they watch Trump put those ideas into practice.

www.nytimes.com

Anecdotal? Yes. A sign of disenchantment from elements on the Right's fringe? Yes.

More importantly, in the grand scheme their observations are correct.

/—-/ More desperation for the unhinged Left.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Notice you don't actually disagree with any specific point I've made.

Try again.

I disagree with the vast majority of your "points", Skylar! I think you're delusional.

 

[Vrenn]

And no link.

They were found to be here illegally, that's all that is needed.

One was completely legal. That means there are certainly others as well.

 

[martybegan]

Then convict them of a crime related to them being here illegally. But you didn't, did you?

Instead, 180 of them have been snatched off the streets and thrown into foreign gulags for indefinite incarceration despite NO convictions of any crimes, NO charges, NO legal representation, NO hearings, NO arraignments, NO sentencing, NO trial.

Just snatched, sent and imprisoned. And per MAGA, beyond judicial review.

Y'all don't even give lip service to freedom, liberty or the rule of law anymore.

Isn't it the left always saying "being illegal isn't a crime"? You can't have it both ways.

You talk about No this, No that, and yet haven't provided any names or evidence to back it up.

Just a number, and the same lame run on sentence you probably copy paste into each response.

 

[Skylar]

Ignoring the rule of law is why those dangerous illegals were in the country to start with, Skylar!

Stripping them of every right and imprisoning 180 of them indefinitely in foreign gulags despite NO conviction of any crime is why thery're in an El Salvadorian prison.

What's shocking is how comfortable and delighted your ilk are with snatching people off the street and imprisoning them for NO crime they've been convicted of.

Also, how short sighted. If they can disappear them, they can disappear you. As if you were snatched off the street by MAGA, when could you protest your arrest for charges they never levy, before a judge you never see?

 

[martybegan]

One was completely legal. That means there are certainly others as well.

Link him.

 

[Concerned American]

So exactly as I predicted, just more excuses why you can't name a single J6 defendant every sentenced to 10 to 15 years for just trespassing.

How did I know that was coming?

Answer my questions. You made this discussion about illegal immigrants into a distraction to J6. Now answer my pertinent questions that were presented or take your nonsense down the road, it isn't worth any more attention.

 

[Skylar]

Isn't it the left always saying "being illegal isn't a crime"? You can't have it both ways.

You talk about No this, No that, and yet haven't provided any names or evidence to back it up.

Just a number, and the same lame run on sentence you probably copy paste into each response.

Isn't it the right that delights is snatching people off the street and shipping them to foreign gulags to be imprisoned indefinitely despite NO charges, NO conviction of ANY crime.

Show us the crimes that these 180 have been convicted of.....or admit you're perfectly cool with imprisoning people and stripping them of their rights despite NO charges, NO crime, NO trial, NO hearing, nothing.

We both already know the answer. I want you to say it.

 

[Concerned American]

Then convict them of a crime related to them being here illegally.

They were returned to their home country. Why should we incarcerate them here and tie up our legal system when they are admittedly from El Salvador?

 

[Skylar]

Answer my questions. You made this discussion about illegal immigrants into a distraction to J6. Now answer my pertinent questions that were presented or take your nonsense down the road, it isn't worth any more attention.

I didn't bring up J6. Your ilk did in a laughably false equivalency, ignorantly insisting that people were sentenced to 10 to 15 years for trespassing.

And when I ask you to name ANY J6 defendant that was sentenced to 10 to 15 years just for trespassing.....why suddenly you don't want to discuss the topic anymore.

You can't. Its an ignorant, pseudo-legal fantasy.

Meanwhile, 180 people have been imprisoned in foreign gulags with NO charges, NO conviction, NO legal representation, NO hearings, and per MAGA, no judicial review.

And your ilk just cheers.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Stripping them of every right and imprisoning 180 of them indefinitely in foreign gulags despite NO conviction of any crime is why thery're in an El Salvadorian prison.

What's shocking is how comfortable and delighted your ilk are with snatching people off the street and imprisoning them for NO crime they've been convicted of.

Also, how short sighted. If they can disappear them, they can disappear you. As if you were snatched off the street by MAGA, when could you protest your arrest for charges they never levy, before a judge you never see?

As I said before...you're on the low end of a 20/80 issue. The American people overwhelmingly want the government to rid the country of dangerous illegal aliens. They voted for this.

 

[Billiejeens]

Nathan Cofnas, a right-wing philosophy professor and self-described “race realist” fixated on group differences in I.Q., wrote on X, “All over the world, almost everyone with more than half a brain is looking at the disaster of Trump (along with Putin, Yoon Suk Yeol, et al.) and drawing the very reasonable conclusion that right-wing, anti-woke parties are incapable of effective governance.” (Yoon Suk Yeol is South Korea’s recently impeached president.)

Scott Siskind, who blogs under the pseudonym Scott Alexander, has been an influential figure in Silicon Valley’s revolt against social justice ideology, though he’s never been a Trump supporter. Last week, he asked whether “edgy heterodox centrists” like himself paved the way for Trump by opening the door to once-verboten arguments. In an imaginary Socratic dialogue, he wrote, “We wanted a swift, lean government that stopped strangling innovation and infrastructure. Instead we got chain-saw-style firings, total devastation of state capacity in exactly the way most likely to strangle innovation more than ever, and the worst and dumbest people in the world gloating about how they solved the ‘grift’ of sending lifesaving medications to dying babies.”

Opinion | The Vibe Shifts Against the Right

People who once found right-wing ideas scintillating are having second thoughts as they watch Trump put those ideas into practice.

www.nytimes.com

Anecdotal? Yes. A sign of disenchantment from elements on the Right's fringe? Yes.

More importantly, in the grand scheme their observations are correct.

Right wing
Couldn't read past that
No one should

 

[Skylar]

They were returned to their home country. Why should we incarcerate them here and tie up our legal system when they are admittedly from El Salvador?

179 Venezualans who've been convicted of NO crimes, nor even charged with crimes, were returned to their home country being put in a gulag in El Salvador?

I don't think 'home country' means what you think it means.

And we're paying 6 million to have them held indefinitely for NO crime.

 

[Man With A Plan]

I didn't bring up J6. Your ilk did in a laughably false equivalency, ignorantly insisting that people were sentenced to 10 to 15 years for trespassing.

And when I ask you to name ANY J6 defendant that was sentenced to 10 to 15 years just for trespassing.....why suddenly you don't want to discuss the topic anymore.

You can't. Its an ignorant, pseudo-legal fantasy.

Meanwhile, 180 people have been imprisoned in foreign gulags with NO charges, NO conviction, NO legal representation, NO hearings, and per MAGA, no judicial review.

And your ilk just cheers.

And your "ilk" cheered when dangerous illegals were set loose on our streets!

 

[Concerned American]

I didn't bring up J6. Your ilk did in a laughably false equivalency, ignorantly insisting that people were sentenced to 10 to 15 years for trespassing.

And when I ask you to name ANY J6 defendant that was sentenced to 10 to 15 years just for trespassing.....why suddenly you don't want to discuss the topic anymore.

You can't. Its an ignorant, pseudo-legal fantasy.

Meanwhile, 180 people have been imprisoned in foreign gulags with NO charges, NO conviction, NO legal representation, NO hearings, and per MAGA, no judicial review.

And your ilk just cheers.

Answer my question about the judicial shopping in HI regarding a case in a district 5000 miles away that chose not to hear it or quit wasting my time with your BS. It is just more blah, blah, blah from an uninformed prog.

 

[Skylar]

And your "ilk" cheered when dangerous illegals were set loose on our streets!

By 'ilk', I mean MAGA. Those who've given useless, empty lip service to freedom, liberty, and the rule of law.......showing us their true colors by cheering and lauding the imprisonment of 180 people indefinitely in foreign prisons who have been convicted of NO crime, have NO charges against them, had NO hearing, NO legal representation, and per MAGA, are beyond judicial review.

Y'all don't even pretend to give the slightest shit about freedom, liberty or the rule of law.

 

[martybegan]

Isn't it the right that delights is snatching people off the street and shipping them to foreign gulags to be imprisoned indefinitely despite NO charges, NO conviction of ANY crime.

Show us the crimes that these 180 have been convicted of.....or admit you're perfectly cool with imprisoning people and stripping them of their rights despite NO charges, NO crime, NO trial, NO hearing, nothing.

We both already know the answer. I want you to say it.

They are here illegally. They can go home. and since the left is fighting us doing that, they can go to prison in El Salvador until it's sorted out.

Again, show me one of these guys not being here illegally.