The Vibe Shifts Against the Right

[Skylar]

You have a vivid imagination.
How would you remove an anal probe after Aliens snatched you up and inserted it into you?

Laughing..so in your imagination, the US government would NEVER invoke the Alien and Sedition Act and arrest and imprison US Citizens without charges. And Trump would never try to invoke wartime powers int he Alien and Sedition Act in peace time. And Trump would never call for US Citizens to be sent to the very foreign gulags that he insists are beyond judicial review.

Again, these people are being imprisoned with NO charges, NO conviction for ANY crime, NO hearing, NO legal representation, NO trial, NO arraignment.

They were simply snatched off the street and shipped to a foreign gulag....where per Trump, they are beyond judicial review.

Where in that process would you even have a chance to prove you are a citizen, let alone defend your rights?

 

[berg80]

OMG berg take a break, the dogs don't like the democrat dog food.

Democrats are TOXIC, face facts. Whining about Trump isn't winning any voters.

The Constitution doesn't say anything about medical research, does it?

That's what pharmaceutical companies do for a living, DUH.

“All over the world, almost everyone with more than half a brain is looking at the disaster of Trump (along with Putin, Yoon Suk Yeol, et al.)

Apparently, you have less than half of one.

 

[berg80]

he has been trumpisized....it may be to late....

I would argue it's you who has been trumpisized.........and it's definitely too late.

 

[berg80]

What did you expect would happen when the left started jailing people for 20+ years for rioting

Rioting, assaulting police officers, destruction of property, and for some, seditious conspiracy.

 

[kyzr]

“All over the world, almost everyone with more than half a brain is looking at the disaster of Trump (along with Putin, Yoon Suk Yeol, et al.) Apparently, you have less than half of one.

Empty words with no proof of anything. You apparently like typing lies all day.

 

[martybegan]

Nah, the tyranny you're simping for deserves original typing and original posts.

And every time you defend sending 180 people to foreign gulags to be imprisoned indefinitely despite NO charges, NO convictions, with NO hearings, and per MAGA.....no judicial review.....

......you demonstrate that MAGA never gave the slightest shit about liberty, rights, freedom, or the rule of law.

If they can do it to them, they can do it to you, Marty. That's what you collaborators never get.

Copypasta Copypasta Copypasta.

They can't do it to me, i was born here.

I have a better chance of some lefty future government throwing me in prison for thoughtcrime (with your approval) than being deported by accident.

 

[Skylar]

Copypasta Copypasta Copypasta.

They can't do it to me, i was born here.

I have a better chance of some lefty future government throwing me in prison for thoughtcrime (with your approval) than being deported by accident.

Do you honestly think that typing 'copy pasta' magically makes the evil and tyranny of what you're gleefully advocating disappear?

We're imprisoning people indefinitely in foreign gulags for NO crimes. No charges, no convictions, no hearings, nothing. Literally just snatching people off the street and throwing them into foreign cells indefinitely.

How can you claim to give a shit about liberty, freedom and the rule of law....and be cool with this? For anyone?

 

[martybegan]

Do you honestly think that typing 'copy pasta' magically makes the evil and tyranny of what you're gleefully advocating disappear?

We're imprisoning people indefinitely in foreign gulags for NO crimes. No charges, no convictions, no hearings, nothing. Literally just snatching people off the street and throwing them into foreign cells indefinitely.

How can you claim to give a shit about liberty, freedom and the rule of law....and be cool with this? For anyone?

And still no links to the people you claim were never given trials, or hearings, or anything.

 

[Skylar]

And still no links to the people you claim were never given trials, or hearings, or anything.

I've already shared links where there are no criminal records for 179 of them.

U.S. sent 238 migrants to Salvadoran mega-prison; documents indicate most have no apparent criminal records

The U.S. sent 238 Venezuelan migrants to a Salvadoran mega-prison. The Trump administration says they're all gang members, but 60 Minutes could find no criminal records for 75% of them.

www.cbsnews.com

You ignored it. You don't care about links. You refuse to read them. You don't do research. The same article confirms that Trump invoked the Alien and Sedition Act, claiming that it allowed him deport without hearings. As does admission from the Trump legal team in the rulings against them on the issue. A ruling you also refuse to read.

You're trying to convince yourself that non-citizens have no rights. And thus because there are classes of people that have no rights, you can imprison them without charges, convictions, hearings, or due process.

That's abhorrent. And a clear demonstration that you've never given slightest shit about rights, freedom or the rule of law.

 

[martybegan]

I've already shared links where there are no criminal records for 179 of them.

U.S. sent 238 migrants to Salvadoran mega-prison; documents indicate most have no apparent criminal records

The U.S. sent 238 Venezuelan migrants to a Salvadoran mega-prison. The Trump administration says they're all gang members, but 60 Minutes could find no criminal records for 75% of them.

www.cbsnews.com

You ignored it. You don't care about links. You refuse to read them. You don't do research. The same article confirms that Trump invoked the Alien and Sedition Act, claiming that it allowed him deport without hearings. As does admission from the Trump legal team in the rulings against them on the issue. A ruling you also refuse to read.

You're trying to convince yourself that non-citizens have no rights. And thus because there are classes of people that have no rights, you can imprison them without charges, convictions, hearings, or due process.

That's abhorrent. And a clear demonstration that you've never given slightest shit about rights, freedom or the rule of law.

But through internal government documents, we have obtained a list of their identities and found that an overwhelming majority have no apparent criminal convictions or even criminal charges.

I doubt CBS news did any real searching for the records, it would trash the narrative.

Lets see those internal documents.

Non-citizens do not have the right to come here illegally. All we are doing is trying to send them home.

 

[Skylar]

I doubt CBS news did any real searching for the records, it would trash the narrative.

Lets see those internal documents.

Non-citizens do not have the right to come here illegally. All we are doing is trying to send them home.

Laughing......and exactly as predicted, you ignore the very source you ask for. You have two grand tells, Marty.

The first is when you start citing yourself as as a legal authority. LIke when you incorrectly claimed that J6 convicts were sentenced to 10 to 15 years for trespassing. You do this when the actual legal outcomes don't match your imagination.

The second is when you go on link fits, demanding everyone do the the research you never have and refuse to do and provide you with links so you can ignore them. You do this when your argument is indefensible and abhorrent, and you know it.

Its also on page 1 of the District Court's ruling:

"The President, Plaintiffs believed, had secretly signed a Proclamation invoking the Act, and, upon its imminent publication, the Government would begin immediately removing them without any hearing to ensure that they fell within its scope."

And you'll ignore that too.....because you don't care. Your entire argument is you trying to convince yourself that non-citizens have no rights. Despite overwhelming precedent that they do. And nothing in the Bill of Rights limiting them to citizens. But instead, citing people. Which every of the 180 folks sent to a foreign gulag are.

Its what collaborators always do to defend the violation of rights by the authoritarian they serve: by pretending that these people have no rights.

 

[berg80]

Being here illegally is a crime.

Entering the country illegally is considered a civil offense, not a criminal one, for the initial entry.

 

[berg80]

More desperation for the unhinged Left.

The quotes came from the fringe Right. Please do follow along. It's not that hard.

 

[martybegan]

Laughing......and exactly as predicted, you ignore the very source you ask for. You have two grand tells, Marty.

The first is when you start citing yourself as as a legal authority. LIke when you incorrectly claimed that J6 convicts were sentenced to 10 to 15 years for trespassing. You do this when the actual legal outcomes don't match your imagination.

The second is when you go on link fits, demanding everyone do the the research you never have and refuse to do and provide you with links so you can ignore them. You do this when your argument is indefensible and abhorrent, and you know it.

You're trying to convince yourself that non-citizens have no rights. Despite overwhelming precedent that they do. And nothing in the Bill of Rights limiting them to citizens. But instead, citing people. Which every of the 180 folks sent to a foreign gulag are.

Its what collaborators always do to defend the violation of rights by the authoritarian they serve: by pretending that these people have no rights.

that isn't a source, it's a story with zero actual backup.

And as for the rest of your repeated screed, tl;dr.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Sending US Citizens to foreign prisons is definitely something Trump is seeking.

Would I even get a trial? Would there even be charges? Or would you follow the MAGA template of just snatching me off the street, imprisoning me indefinitely in a foreign gulag without a hearing, charges, or convictions, or judicial review?

Would it just be me? Or would you have to set up camps for all the people 'committing treason'? How big would those camps have to be?

You think Trump is coming for you? LOL Trump is busy fixing the multitude of messes that the Biden Administration left him. He doesn't have time for your silly ass!

 

[Skylar]

that isn't a source, it's a story with zero actual backup.

And as for the rest of your repeated screed, tl;dr.

Its absolutely a source confirming the very details I've offered.

U.S. sent 238 migrants to Salvadoran mega-prison; documents indicate most have no apparent criminal records

The U.S. sent 238 Venezuelan migrants to a Salvadoran mega-prison. The Trump administration says they're all gang members, but 60 Minutes could find no criminal records for 75% of them.

www.cbsnews.com

You just don't care. You've convinced yourself that non-citizens have no rights, so they can be imprisoned indefinitely in foreign gulags WITHOUT any charges, ANY conviction of ANY crime, any hearing.

And you ignore exactly as I predicted you would. Just like you ignored the District Court ruling, where Trump's team confirming the same thing.

"The President, Plaintiffs believed, had secretly signed a Proclamation invoking the Act, and, upon its imminent publication, the Government would begin immediately removing them without any hearing to ensure that they fell within its scope."

You simply don't care that that 180 people were indefinitely imprisoned in foreign gulags by the US government with NO conviction of ANY crime.

And that's why you're a collaborator. That's why you're so eagerly aligned with authoritarianism.

 

[martybegan]

Its absolutely a source confirming the very details I've offered.

U.S. sent 238 migrants to Salvadoran mega-prison; documents indicate most have no apparent criminal records

The U.S. sent 238 Venezuelan migrants to a Salvadoran mega-prison. The Trump administration says they're all gang members, but 60 Minutes could find no criminal records for 75% of them.

www.cbsnews.com

You just don't care. You've convinced yourself that non-citizens have no rights, so they can be imprisoned indefinitely in foreign gulags WITHOUT any charges, ANY conviction of ANY crime, any hearing.

And you ignore exactly as I predicted you would. Just like you ignored the District Court ruling, where Trump's team confirming the same thing.

"The President, Plaintiffs believed, had secretly signed a Proclamation invoking the Act, and, upon its imminent publication, the Government would begin immediately removing them without any hearing to ensure that they fell within its scope."

You simply don't care that that 180 people were indefinitely imprisoned in foreign gulags by the US government with NO conviction of ANY crime.

And that's why you're a collaborator. That's why you're so eagerly aligned with authoritarianism.

If you trust them, and I don't. how about they release the documents and what they found?

 

[Skylar]

You think Trump is coming for you? LOL Trump is busy fixing the multitude of messes that the Biden Administration left him. He doesn't have time for your silly ass!

Trump has certainly expressed his desire to put US Citizens in the very same foreign gulags that he insists are beyond judicial review. Trump has certainly tried to invoke the war time powers of the Alien and Sedition Act, used by the US government to arrest and imprison US Citizens without charges or crimes.

If Trump can disappear them, he can disappear us. As there's no hearing. If you were snatched up by MAGA on the street and shipped to a foreign gulag without any hearing.....how would you assert your defense against charges that are never levied, before a judge you never see?

And once you're in the gulag, Trump insists that you are beyond the court's authority to bring you back.

That should deeply concern anyone with a thinking brain.

 

[Cellblock2429]

The quotes came from the fringe Right. Please do follow along. It's not that hard.

/—-/ I don’t care what some self proclaimed “fringe rightist” says. It proves nothing.

 

[Skylar]

If you trust them, and I don't. how about they release the documents and what they found?

Your willful ignorance isn't an argument. Its an excuse for one. Exactly as predicted, you ignored the very source you asked for.

You don't care about links. You don't care about the facts in the case. You don't care that these 180 people were sent to prison despite NO conviction to any crime.

Its perfectly reasonable to you that these people should have no rights. That they should be imprisoned indefinitely in foreign gulags for NO crime, with NO hearing.

Because......you're a collaborator. And convincing people like you that 'they' have no rights to defend is the first thing authoritarians do.