The Vibe Shifts Against the Right

[Concerned American]

By 'ilk', I mean MAGA. Those who've given useless, empty lip service to freedom, liberty, and the rule of law.......showing us their true colors by cheering and lauding the imprisonment of 180 people indefinitely in foreign prisons who have been convicted of NO crime, have NO charges against them, had NO hearing, NO legal representation, and per MAGA, are beyond judicial review.

Y'all don't even pretend to give the slightest shit about freedom, liberty or the rule of law.

Maybe you should be sent there as well. Many, myself among them, would consider calling for the illegal foreign invasion of our borders as treason. No STFU, you have no argument.

 

[Skylar]

Answer my question about the judicial shopping in HI regarding a case in a district 5000 miles away that chose not to hear it or quit wasting my time with your BS. It is just more blah, blah, blah from an uninformed prog.

Laughing.......so when your ilk's ignorant pseudo-legal gibberish falls apart about J6 defendants being sentenced to 10 to 15 years for trespassing predictably collapses......

.....you desperately try to change the topic to 'judicial shopping in Hawaii'? All while ignoring the 180 men who were shipped off to foreign gulags to be indefinitely imprisoned despite being convicted of NO crime, charged with NOTHING, having NO hearing, NO trial, and per MAGA, are beyond judicial review?

Yeah, I wouldn't want to polish the gulag turd either. No wonder you're so desperate to awkwardly change the topic.

 

[Man With A Plan]

By 'ilk', I mean MAGA. Those who've given useless, empty lip service to freedom, liberty, and the rule of law.......showing us their true colors by cheering and lauding the imprisonment of 180 people indefinitely in foreign prisons who have been convicted of NO crime, have NO charges against them, had NO hearing, NO legal representation, and per MAGA, are beyond judicial review.

Y'all don't even pretend to give the slightest shit about freedom, liberty or the rule of law.

So the Biden Administration ignoring the rule of law to allow those people INTO the country didn't bother you in the least but the Trump Administration using the rule of law to arrest them and remove them from the country has you foaming at the mouth? You do realize you're fighting the expulsions of violent gang members? Get your head out of your ass, Skylar...

 

[Concerned American]

so when your ilk's ignorant pseudo-legal gibberish

The only BS gibberish that is evident here is your own. Typical of your posts. Long on opinion, short on substantiated fact. How many illegals were sent to El Salvadore? You've posted three different numbers. Get your garbage together in one bag.

 

[Skylar]

They are here illegally. They can go home. and since the left is fighting us doing that, they can go to prison in El Salvador until it's sorted out.

Again, show me one of these guys not being here illegally.

They weren't simply expelled from the country. They were shipped to a foreign gulag for indefinite imprisonment, paid for by the US government, despite NO charges, NO convictions of any crimes, NO hearings, NO appeals, NO legal representation, and per MAGA, beyond judicial review.

Do you have any idea how short sighted this is, collaborator? If they can ship off them without judicial review, charges or hearing.....they can do it to you, Marty. As if MAGA snatched you off the street, when would you ever be able protest your innocence to charges they never levy, before a judge you never see?

 

[Skylar]

The only BS gibberish that is evident here is your own. Typical of your posts. Long on opinion, short on substantiated fact. How many illegals were sent to El Salvadore? You've posted three different numbers. Get your garbage together in one bag.

Then show me the J6 defendants who were sentenced for 10 to 15 years for trespassing.

Smiling.....I won't hold my breath.

 

[martybegan]

They weren't simply expelled from the country. They were shipped to a foreign gulag for indefinite imprisonment, paid for by the US government, despite NO charges, NO convictions of any crimes, NO hearings, NO appeals, NO legal representation, and per MAGA, beyond judicial review.

Do you have any idea how short sighted this is, collaborator? If they can ship off them without judicial review, charges or hearing.....they can do it to you, Marty. As if MAGA snatched you off the street, when would you ever be able protest your innocence to charges they never levy, before a judge you never see?

Foreign prison.

Again, give me some names. lets see the quality of person you are defending.

Every single one of these guys has a rap sheet a mile long, here and in their country of origin.

But please keep pretending these are day laborers and field hands only.

 

[Skylar]

Maybe you should be sent there as well. Many, myself among them, would consider calling for the illegal foreign invasion of our borders as treason. No STFU, you have no argument.

Sending US Citizens to foreign prisons is definitely something Trump is seeking.

Would I even get a trial? Would there even be charges? Or would you follow the MAGA template of just snatching me off the street, imprisoning me indefinitely in a foreign gulag without a hearing, charges, or convictions, or judicial review?

Would it just be me? Or would you have to set up camps for all the people 'committing treason'? How big would those camps have to be?

 

[Concerned American]

Sending US Citizens to foreign prisons is definitely something Trump is seeking.

Link. Until you start supporting your BS, that is my reponse. LINK

 

[Skylar]

Foreign prison.

Again, give me some names. lets see the quality of person you are defending.

Every single one of these guys has a rap sheet a mile long, here and in their country of origin.

But please keep pretending these are day laborers and field hands only.

Foreign gulags, 180 folks imprisoned indefinitely despite NO charges, NO convictions for ANY crime and NO hearing.

And MAGA cheers. Demonstrating their contempt for the rule of law, due process, liberty or freedom. They delight in stripping people of their rights and imprisoning them indefinitely without any trial, charge or conviction.

With your ilk already 'maybe' calling for MY imprisonment for treason. And Trump calling for US Citizens to be shipped off to the same foreign gulags.

 

[martybegan]

Foreign gulags, 180 folks imprisoned indefinitely despite NO charges, NO convictions for ANY crime and NO hearing.

And MAGA cheers. Demonstrating their contempt for the rule of law, due process, liberty or freedom. They delight in stripping people of their rights and imprisoning them indefinitely without any trial, charge or conviction.

With your ilk already 'maybe' calling for MY imprisonment for treason. And Trump calling for US Citizens to be shipped off to the same foreign gulags.

I hope you have your screed saved to a word document to copypasta. Same shit every time. you have the intellect of a amoeba.

If you are a citizen you can't be deported, and we don't want to prosecute people for thoughtcrime, that's your side.

Again, please give me some examples of these poor souls being detained in El Salvador.

 

[Skylar]

Link. Until you start supporting your BS, that is my reponse. LINK

Like you give the slightest shit.

"We always have to obey the laws, but we also have homegrown criminals that push people into subways, that hit elderly ladies on the back of the head with a baseball bat when they're not looking, that are absolute monsters," Trump told reporters during Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele's visit to the White House.

"I'd like to include them in the group of people to get them out of the country, but you'll have to be looking at the laws on that," Trump added.

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/trump-wants-deport-some-us-citizens-el-salvador-2025-04-14/

But the face eating leopard would never eat YOUR face, would it CA. If they can do it them, they can do it to YOU. As how would you protest your innocence to charges they never levy, before a judge you never see?

 

[Skylar]

I hope you have your screed saved to a word document to copypasta. Same shit every time. you have the intellect of a amoeba.

If you are a citizen you can't be deported, and we don't want to prosecute people for thoughtcrime, that's your side.

Again, please give me some examples of these poor souls being detained in El Salvador.

Nah, the tyranny you're simping for deserves original typing and original posts.

And every time you defend sending 180 people to foreign gulags to be imprisoned indefinitely despite NO charges, NO convictions, with NO hearings, and per MAGA.....no judicial review.....

......you demonstrate that MAGA never gave the slightest shit about liberty, rights, freedom, or the rule of law.

If they can do it to them, they can do it to you, Marty. That's what you collaborators never get.

 

[Skylar]

Link. Until you start supporting your BS, that is my reponse. LINK

And you never did answer my questions about me 'maybe' being sent to a foreign gulag for treason.

Would I even get a trial? Would there even be charges? Or would you follow the MAGA template of just snatching me off the street, imprisoning me indefinitely in a foreign gulag without a hearing, charges, or convictions, or judicial review?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Anecdotal? Yes. A sign of disenchantment from elements on the Right's fringe? Yes.

More importantly, in the grand scheme their observations are correct.

The problem, of course, is that far too many on the right disenchanted with Trump’s fascist regime lack the courage to oppose Trump’s fascist regime – and most support Trump’s thuggish authoritarianism.

It was fun for conservatives to fantasize about the implementation of rightwing authoritarian dogma; but now that it’s here, they’re starting to realize how failed and wrongheaded that dogma truly is.

 

[theHawk]

Nathan Cofnas, a right-wing philosophy professor and self-described “race realist” fixated on group differences in I.Q., wrote on X, “All over the world, almost everyone with more than half a brain is looking at the disaster of Trump (along with Putin, Yoon Suk Yeol, et al.) and drawing the very reasonable conclusion that right-wing, anti-woke parties are incapable of effective governance.” (Yoon Suk Yeol is South Korea’s recently impeached president.)

Scott Siskind, who blogs under the pseudonym Scott Alexander, has been an influential figure in Silicon Valley’s revolt against social justice ideology, though he’s never been a Trump supporter. Last week, he asked whether “edgy heterodox centrists” like himself paved the way for Trump by opening the door to once-verboten arguments. In an imaginary Socratic dialogue, he wrote, “We wanted a swift, lean government that stopped strangling innovation and infrastructure. Instead we got chain-saw-style firings, total devastation of state capacity in exactly the way most likely to strangle innovation more than ever, and the worst and dumbest people in the world gloating about how they solved the ‘grift’ of sending lifesaving medications to dying babies.”

Opinion | The Vibe Shifts Against the Right

People who once found right-wing ideas scintillating are having second thoughts as they watch Trump put those ideas into practice.

www.nytimes.com

Anecdotal? Yes. A sign of disenchantment from elements on the Right's fringe? Yes.

More importantly, in the grand scheme their observations are correct.

Why would anyone care about the opinion of this particular idiot?

More leftwing copium.

 

[The Duke]

So the reason that you are disappearing people with NO trial, NO charges, NO arraignments, NO hearings, NO legal representation and imprisoning them despite ZERO convictions of any crime in foreign gulags......

Is because J6 defendants DID receive charges, DID get arraignments, DID get hearings, DID have legal representation, and for hundreds DID receive sentences through plea deals and jury trials and DIDN'T get sent to foreign gulags?

Y'all are raising the false equilancy fallacy to an art form.

If they can disappear an illegal with no hearing to foreign prisons......they can disappear you, CA. As if MAGA snatches you off the street, when would you ever be able to protest your innocence of charges they NEVER levy, in front a judge you NEVER see?

No. American citizens have rights illegal invaders do not have, dipshit.
You type much and say little.

 

[Skylar]

The problem, of course, is that far too many on the right disenchanted with Trump’s fascist regime lack the courage to oppose Trump’s fascist regime – and most support Trump’s thuggish authoritarianism.

It was fun for conservatives to fantasize about the implementation of rightwing authoritarian dogma; but now that it’s here, they’re starting to realize how failed and wrongheaded that dogma truly is.

Not just wrong headed.....short fucking sighted. If Trump can do it to them, he can do it to us.

If MAGA can snatch someone off the street and send them to a foreign gulag that is beyond judicial review.. without charges, conviction of any crime, or any hearing...how would you protest your arrest to charges they never levy, before a judge you never see?

And once you're in the foreign gulag, per Trump, you're beyond any judicial order to get you back.

Face eating leopards eat faces.

 

[Skylar]

No. American citizens have rights illegal invaders do not have, dipshit.
You type much and say little.

Um....dipshit, how would exert your rights if you were snatched off the street and sent to a foreign gulag when the gulag - per MAGA, is beyond judicial review?

How would you protest charges that were NEVER levied, before a judge you NEVER see?

Explain it to me.

 

[The Duke]

Um....dipshit, how would exert your rights if you were snatched off the street and sent to a foreign gulag when the gulag - per MAGA, is beyond judicial review?

How would you protest charges that were NEVER levied, before a judge you NEVER see?

Explain it to me.

You have a vivid imagination.
How would you remove an anal probe after Aliens snatched you up and inserted it into you?