The Vibe Shifts Against the Right

[martybegan]

Another lie

You just double down huh?

Over prosecutions are a matter of fact in these cases.

You want to be chickenshit on my bit of hyperbole, go ahead.

 

[Skylar]

We got a count, we know where they are, and we know they were here illegally.

Get back to me when he actually tries the citizen thing, instead of just saying it to trigger you dumbasses.

Like with J6 people given 20 years for trespassing?

179 people that have been convicted of NO crimes, charged with nothing, had no hearings, no legal representation......and were snatched off the street and sent to a foreign prison that MAGA insists is beyond judicial review.

And the J6 people, in stark contrast, had charges. They had arraignments. They had legal representation. They had hearings. And for hundreds, they had sentences, through either plea deals or jury trials. And had appeals on their convictions. And judicial review.

Not one was shipped off to a foreign gulag.

Every authoritarian regime violating basic human rights needs collaborators just like you to try and excuse these violations.

 

[Skylar]

They were in the country illegally and deported. Violating immigration laws is a crime.

Then show me their convictions for any crime.

Show me them even being CHARGED with any crime.

If they can disappear them, they can disappear YOU. As when would you ever be able to protest your arrest, 'prove' your citizenship, or refute charges they never levy, in front a judge you never see?

We both know the answer. Which is why you refuse to answer the question.

 

[Concerned American]

And then SHIPPED THEM TO FOREIGN GULAGS. That's the part you seem to be missing. The man in question is charged with no crime, has been convicted of nothing. With zero hearings, zero legal representation, zero charges and zero convictions.

Nor has 179 of the Venezualans sent to the same foreign gulag. And yet they're all imprisoned indefinitely.

And even the government admits that the man had legal protections that PREVENTED his removal to El Salvador, and that they made an administrative error.

Polish this turd as hard as you want, but if they can disappear illegals, they can disappear YOU. As when would you EVER be able to protest charges they don't levy in front of a judge you never see?

Trump has made it VERY clear that he wants to send US Citizens to same foreign gulags.

LOL, it is a pity that you don't have the same concern for American rights to security in their own nation over those of proven illegal immigrants. Your BS doesn't hold water.

 

[Concerned American]

Not one was shipped off to a foreign gulag.

Abrego Garcia was returned to his home country--not Russia. So much for the false foreign gulag BS. He violated US immigration law -- that is a crime no matter how you want to paint that pile of crap argument.

 

[Skylar]

LOL, it is a pity that you don't have the same concern for American rights to security in their own nation over those of proven illegal immigrants. Your BS doesn't hold water.

Its terrifying how comfortable you MAGA faithful are with just snatching people off the streets with NO charges, NO convictions, NO trial, NO hearing, NO appeal, NO legal representation........and just throwing them into foreign gulags indefinitely.

Remember when y'all used to give empty lip service to freedom, rights, liberty and due process? It was bullshit, of course. But at least you pretended.

 

[Skylar]

Abrego Garcia was returned to his home country--not Russia. So much for the false foreign gulag BS. He violated US immigration law -- that is a crime no matter how you want to paint that pile of crap argument.

He was shipped to El Salvador IN VIOLATION OF A COURT ORDER as part of an administrative error. And imprisoned at the behest of the US for NO crime.

And there's a 179 others also imprisoned for NO crime, with NO trial and NO conviction. With Trump calling for US Citizens to be sent to the same foreign gulag.

And MAGA cheers at stripping people of every right, imprisoning them in foreign gulag without any conviction of any crime.

So much for the empty lip service y'all offered to liberty, freedom, due process and rights.

 

[martybegan]

179 people that have been convicted of NO crimes, charged with nothing, had no hearings, no legal representation......and were snatched off the street and sent to a foreign prison that MAGA insists is beyond judicial review.

And the J6 people, in stark contrast, had charges. They had arraignments. They had legal representation. They had hearings. And for hundreds, they had sentences, through either plea deals or jury trials. And had appeals on their convictions. And judicial review.

Not one was shipped off to a foreign gulag.

Every authoritarian regime violating basic human rights needs collaborators just like you to try and excuse these violations.

Illegal aliens who are in violation of our laws FOR JUST BEING HERE vs. citizens.

And all of those proceedings were done by a politicized justice department and judiciary looking for RW skulls to hang on their desks.

 

[martybegan]

Its terrifying how comfortable you MAGA faithful are with just snatching people off the streets with NO charges, NO convictions, NO trial, NO hearing, NO appeal, NO legal representation........and just throwing them into foreign gulags indefinitely.

Remember when y'all used to give empty lip service to freedom, rights, liberty and due process? It was bullshit, of course. But at least you pretended.

And you only seem to care about criminals and people you can control.

Have your 30 cats eaten you yet? you dried up menopausal AWFL?

 

[Skylar]

Fine 10-15 years. happy now?

Who the fuck was given 10 to 15 years just for trespassing?

And again, every J6 convict all had hearings, charges, arraignments, appeals, trials or plea bargians, convictions, legal representation and access to judicial review.

Y'know. Everything MAGA stripped from these 180 people snatched of the street and disappeared, held indefinitely in foreign gulags despite NO charges and NO convictions of ANY crime.

We all already knew that your empty lip service to freedom, liberty, rights, and due process were meaningless bullshit. You're just demonstrating it for us again.

 

[Skylar]

And you only seem to care about criminals and people you can control.

Have your 30 cats eaten you yet? you dried up menopausal AWFL?

Again, collaborator, you don't even dispute that these 180 people are imprisoned for NO crimes they've ever been convicted of, with NO trial, NO hearing, NO legal representation.

And you and your ilk just cheer.

 

[martybegan]

Who the fuck was given 10 to 15 years just for trespassing?

And again, every J6 convict all had hearings, charges, arraignments, appeals, trials or plea bargians, convictions, legal representation and access to judicial review.

Y'know. Everything MAGA stripped from these 180 people snatched of the street and disappeared, held indefinitely in foreign gulags despite NO charges and NO convictions of ANY crime.

We all already knew that your empty lip service to freedom, liberty, rights, and due process were meaningless bullshit. You're just demonstrating it for us again.

What was effectively trespassing, before the bullshit adders like "delaying an official act" were added.

They didn't disappear if you can count them and we know where they were sent.

 

[Concerned American]

Its terrifying how comfortable you MAGA faithful are with just snatching people off the streets with NO charges, NO convictions, NO trial, NO hearing, NO appeal, NO legal representation........and just throwing them into foreign gulags indefinitely.

Remember when y'all used to give empty lip service to freedom, rights, liberty and due process? It was bullshit, of course. But at least you pretended.

It is sickening that you socialist POS care more for foreign criminals laughing at our immigration laws than the safety and security of US citizens. The surging of the US border was nothing short of a planned foreign invasion. Run along you anti-American POS.

 

[Mac1958]

I think it's less about the issues and more about the way they're implementing them.

They're looking like the caricatures the Left paints of them: Cruelty, aggression, ignorance, paranoia, mal-informed, Neanderthal.

If they took a more intelligent, thoughtful approach, I suspect they could change more minds, given the Dems' off-putting tactics.

But, of course, that approach simply isn't in them.

 

[martybegan]

Again, collaborator, you don't even dispute that these 180 people are imprisoned for NO crimes they've ever been convicted of, with NO trial, NO hearing, NO legal representation.

And you and your ilk just cheer.

They were here illegally. That's all we need.

Many of them were accused of serious crimes in their own countries, and would have been denied entry if they TRIED to come here legally.

You guys brought on the backlash by refusing to deal with the problem. Now go suck it.

 

[martybegan]

I think it's less about the issues and more about the way they're implementing them.

They're looking like the caricatures the Left paints of them: Cruelty, aggression, ignorance, paranoia, mal-informed, Neanderthal.

If they took a more intelligent, thoughtful approach, I suspect they could change more minds, given the Dems' off-putting tactics.

But, of course, that approach simply isn't in them.

That approach gets sued in 50 courts as a delaying tactic.

Fuck it. You guys fucked the system, we have to go hard to fix it.

 

[Skylar]

What was effectively trespassing, before the bullshit adders like "delaying an official act" were added.

Laughing......so your assessment that it was 'just trespassing' is your silly Judge Dredd routine, where you ignore all the hearings, ignore all the charges, ignore all the trials or plea bargains, ignore all the convictions and ignore all the appeals...

....and offer up your personal opinion AS the law. Despite you having no idea what you're talking about.

This is your tell, Marty. When you start quoting YOURSELF as a legal authority, you know you've lost.

No one was given 10 to 15 years for just trespassing. And every last one of those convicted was given the due process that your ilk have denied these 180 people.

They didn't disappear if you can count them and we know where they were sent.

Notice you don't dispute that they were sent to a foreign gulag to be imprisoned indefinitely despite NO conviction of ANY crime, nor even charges of any crime, NO legal representation, no hearing, no trial, no arraignment, no sentencing.

And you're perfectly comfortable doing that to people, my little collaborator.

This is why the vibe is turning against your ilk. Because what you're advocating is a vile afront to anyone genuinely defends the values you only give empty lip service to.

Er....gave. You're not even pretending anymore.

 

[Concerned American]

Again, collaborator, you don't even dispute that these 180 people are imprisoned for NO crimes they've ever been convicted of, with NO trial, NO hearing, NO legal representation.

And you and your ilk just cheer.

You certainly think a lot of your politicized kangaroo judiciary who are more intent on making political statements and obstructing justice than you are about American national security. Maybe you'd think differently if Laken Riley was your daughter.

 

[martybegan]

Laughing......so your assessment that it was 'just trespassing' is your silly Judge Dredd routine, where you ignore all the hearings, ignore all the charges, ignore all the trials or plea bargains, ignore all the convictions and ignore all the appeals...

....and offer up your personal opinion AS the law. Despite you having no idea what you're talking about.

This is your tell, Marty. When you start quoting YOURSELF as a legal authority, you know you've lost.

No one was given 10 to 15 years for just trespassing. And every last one of those convicted was given the due process that your ilk have denied these 180 people.




Notice you don't dispute that they were sent to a foreign gulag to be imprisoned indefinitely despite NO conviction of ANY crime, nor even charges of any crime, NO legal representation, no hearing, no trial, no arraignment, no sentencing.

And you're perfectly comfortable doing that to people, my little collaborator.

because all those hearings were run by a Biden DOJ looking to punish political opponents.

They were sent out of the country. They don't belong in this country. It's that simple.

Meanwhile all the victims of illegals here WHO SHOULDN"T BE HERE get ignored by you clowns.

Rachel Morin murder: Illegal immigrant from El Salvador charged in rape, killing of Maryland mom-of-5

Murder of Laken Riley - Wikipedia

Illegal immigrant suspected of grisly murder days before court hearing

 

[Skylar]

You certainly think a lot of your politicized kangaroo judiciary who are more intent on making political statements and obstructing justice than you are about American national security. Maybe you'd think differently if Laken Riley was your daughter.

If you're curious why the vibe is turning against the right, its your delight and comfort with stripping people of every right and imprisoning them despite NO charges, NO convictions, NO trial, NO hearing, NO appeal, to be imprisoned indefinitely.

Y'all aren't even pretending to give the slightest shit about liberty, freedom, or due process anymore.

And folks have definitely noticed.