The US Suddenly Has An Incompetent Military - Who Is Responsible?

[Stryder50]

For openers you're lying.

Kuwait US mistakenly shot down 3 fighters.....

Iran didn't shoot down any US fighters.

Both aircraft carriers didn't 'sneak away' as you tried to indicate, they were scheduled for heavy maintenance. One for an overhaul the other to replace the problematic sewage system.

You're a piece of shit, that's for sure.

Exactly.
"Retreat" is a precise military term for "advance to the rear" due either to enemy action/attack or very serious threat.
The Truman launched in 1998 and is a couple years overdue for refuel of the reactors and other upgrades. Pre-planned for June 2026.
The Ford is a major design change from the earlier model of CV, Nimitz, with a lot of newer tech of questionable proving or improvement. It is putting into a port in Greece reportedly for a few weeks tweaking.

 

[MarathonMike]

Ok, now show how those are related to anything trump did. It’s one thing to say it, it’s another to show it

Oh that's easy for them. They just invoke the Trump Hater Edict "Something bad happened, IT'S TRUMP'S FAULT!!"

 

[Stryder50]

Bwahahahaa. Kuwait shot down 3 of our planes with our missiles as admitted to by the President. Spin that however you want. I put the link so you could get all the details. It was a $400-500M disaster.

I didnt use the word sneak, are you Deluded or Delldude?

Clogged toilets and laundry dryers doesnt send the largest US carrier in the world home... or maybe it does if you are incompetent.

The fact you are trying to spin all those disasters as normal if utterly insane. Its a cult.

Those missiles were USA made, but operated by Kuwait military. Detail is that the fighters weren't equip with devices on their rear to warn of that type missile coming at them. Situation reflects the ever improvable need for excellent communications between allies. Especially when many don't speak English.

CV Ford wasn't sent "home" as in back to USA, but to nearby port for some 'quick fixes'.
When you have about 5,000 people living on a ship, thinks like faulty toilets* and laundry can quickly affect morale and effciency.
* Environmental concerns means one can't just flush into the ocean without some treatment.

Big objection of many towards you on this thread (and many others) is you misuse and mangle of English and hyperbole in getting facts wrong and distorted. You do this often and consistently enough to show intent at disinformation. Hopefully USA's enemies are paying you what you earn/deserve for your services.

 

[Stryder50]

Jesus.

Ford is using a new tech launch system that is magnetic rather than traditional steam powered. The system was installed prior to complete testing and proofing, mainly because the ship was designed for it (no steam system capability) and construction can only be delayed so much when comes time to install in the cycle.

 

[airplanemechanic]

The incompetence of the military under Trump has been legendary. Who is to blame for this long long long list of high profile mishaps? The low profile ones would fill up this site.

The military operation requires precision and planning. Winging it gets the following results:

1. Planes sliding off ships at sea MULTIPLE times
2. Attacking our own drones in Texas
3. Military Helicopters running into commercial jets
4. US shoots down 3 of its own planes in Iran War
5. Iran shooting down a US F18
6. USS Gerald Ford retreats from battle for 3+ years due to clogged toilets and laundry room fires (sure)
7. USS Truman retreating from Red Sea for 5 year overhaul
8. "We didn't expect Iran to retaliate"
9. US Bombs Girls School In Iran
10. US Bombs Dairy Farm Accidently
11. Illegal Boat Strikes Including Geneva Convention Violation Double Tap

That was just from memory. What the hell is going on?

Number 4 is bullshit. Um, the US didn't shoot down 3 of its own planes. A Kuwaiti pilot who was an Iran sympathizer did.

Number 5 is Iran propaganda. USCENTCOM has stated this is false. An F-18 was hit but continued flying. We have not lost any aircraft to Iranian hostile fire. Both the F18 and F35 that were hit safely landed.

Number 11 is bullshit. Iran is violating the geneva convention dropping cluster munitions on civilians. Where is that in your stupid ******* list?

Number 3 is bullshit. The military helicopter was hit by the airliner. Not really the helis fault as they are told where to land and then have to depart right in front of active runways. That's the fault of ATC. Not either pilot, really. See and avoid. It happened in controlled airspace.

Wow I barely tried and I tore half this list apart.

 

[Stryder50]

It's normally stationed in the Med. It's strike group was part of the mission......mission accomplished heading for scheduled maintenance in Norfolk in May.
It remained operational even with the fire.

It's the Truman you are speaking about that is going to Norfolk.
'gator is also talking about the Ford, which had the fire on-board issue. BTW it was involved in the Venezuelan venture a few months back before deploying to the Med. ~ 6th Fleet.

 

[Delldude]

Those missiles were USA made, but operated by Kuwait military. Detail is that the fighters weren't equip with devices on their rear to warn of that type missile coming at them. Situation reflects the ever improvable need for excellent communications between allies. Especially when many don't speak English.

CV Ford wasn't sent "home" as in back to USA, but to nearby port for some 'quick fixes'.
When you have about 5,000 people living on a ship, thinks like faulty toilets* and laundry can quickly affect morale and effciency.
* Environmental concerns means one can't just flush into the ocean without some treatment.

Big objection of many towards you on this thread (and many others) is you misuse and mangle of English and hyperbole in getting facts wrong and distorted. You do this often and consistently enough to show intent at disinformation. Hopefully USA's enemies are paying you what you earn/deserve for your services.

I wondered about IFF on Kuwait radar. And those missiles, I don't think designers contemplated our planes getting shot at with our missiles.

 

[Stryder50]

Even you know that is not right. Right wingers exploit any mishap to spin a narrative. For God's sake you nearly shit your drawers that Biden waited till a balloon got over the water to shoot it down, while Trump missed 3 of them totally on his watch and now you guys are acting like shooting down 3 of our own planes is a simple whoops.

I am regularly left speechless by the hypocrisy of conservatives.

Fair enough, somewhat.
I and many others are often near speechless by the ignorance, stupidity, incompetence, hypocrisy, and treason so often shown by so-called "liberals" and Leftists.

 

[Stryder50]

I've spent many nights on a US carrier. I didnt call those people buffoons dipshit. I called the people who sent those brave sailors to the middle east on a leaky bucket so broken it had to limp into dock a week later buffoons. They are buffoons.

Bullshyte!
First item on your list in OP claims it is the current military that are incompetent on handling aircraft, and you were specific about condition of the USA military, nothing said about civilians involved or up the chain of command.

 

[yidnar]

The incompetence of the military under Trump has been legendary. Who is to blame for this long long long list of high profile mishaps? The low profile ones would fill up this site.

The military operation requires precision and planning. Winging it gets the following results:

1. Planes sliding off ships at sea MULTIPLE times
2. Attacking our own drones in Texas
3. Military Helicopters running into commercial jets
4. US shoots down 3 of its own planes in Iran War
5. Iran shooting down a US F18
6. USS Gerald Ford retreats from battle for 3+ years due to clogged toilets and laundry room fires (sure)
7. USS Truman retreating from Red Sea for 5 year overhaul
8. "We didn't expect Iran to retaliate"
9. US Bombs Girls School In Iran
10. US Bombs Dairy Farm Accidently
11. Illegal Boat Strikes Including Geneva Convention Violation Double Tap

That was just from memory. What the hell is going on?

another leftist spreading Islamofascist propaganda ..

 

[Stryder50]

citygator

Some say that IDF senior officers have been commonly seen in the Pentagon for years. The Comptroller of the Pentagon in 2001 was an ordained Rabbi named Dov Zakheim.

Your post is right on, but this process of corruption of the US military has been going on for decades. One man cannot be blamed.

One finds senior officers from all the nations the USA is allied with roaming the Pentagon. That's part of why it exists and why USA has many communication channels, including in the Pentagon.

 

[BlindBoo]

Same military, but different C-in-C and a more stupid and crazy one at that.
Trump at least let the military handle the details be orderly about it.
Dildo Biden ordered a rushed job and didn't allow for proper planning, etc.

The commanders on the ground negotiated a 4 month extension to the truce that was keeping our troops out of combat, not President Biden.

Military Leaders on Afghanistan Exit: Transcript | Rev

Mark Milley and Lloyd Austin testified on the withdrawal from Afghanistan on 9/28. Read the transcript here.

www.rev.com

Sec. Lloyd Austin: (18:55) "Indeed, by late April two weeks after the president's decision, military planners had crafted a number of evacuation scenarios. In mid-May I ordered Central Command to make preparations for potential NEO. And two weeks later, I began pre-positioning forces in the region to include three infantry battalions."

The decision to leave Afghanistan was made by President Trump in his administration on February 29th, 2020, where we committed to leave by a date certain. There was a particular provision or a condition, if you will, about negotiations between the Taliban and the Afghan government. There was even a date specified; March 10th, 2020, less than two weeks after the signing of the Doha Agreement. Clearly that condition was not met. Senator King: (0106) My question is, and General Milley, you were the only one who overlapped the two administrations. Were there any efforts on behalf of the prior administration to enforce that condition of negotiation with the Afghan government and the Taliban? General Milley: (0125) Senator, as I said in my opening remarks, the conditions that were required of the Taliban, none of them were met except one. Senator King: (0134) My question is, did we attempt to enforce those conditions? Did we inform the Taliban, for example, we won't advocate for the release of 5,000 prisoners, unless you begin negotiations or something similar? General Milley: (0147) I don't have personal knowledge of that, whether or not [inaudible 0151] or others were personally saying that, I don't have personal knowledge of that, but I do know that none of the conditions were met except the one which, "Don't attack American forces and coalition forces." That condition was- Senator King: (01:51:03) The conditions were not met, but you testified that the troop withdrawals and the release of the 5,000 Taliban prisoners did proceed, even though the conditions had not been met, is that correct? General Milley: (01:51:14) That is correct.

6 out of 7 the Taliban's conditions were not met, and yet by the end of 2020 and 80% of our fighting forces were withdrawn and all of our conditions were met. Including the evacuation of 5 military bases we had in the country.

Benedict Donald did that.

 

[IM2]

The incompetence of the military under Trump has been legendary. Who is to blame for this long long long list of high profile mishaps? The low profile ones would fill up this site.

The military operation requires precision and planning. Winging it gets the following results:

1. Planes sliding off ships at sea MULTIPLE times
2. Attacking our own drones in Texas
3. Military Helicopters running into commercial jets
4. US shoots down 3 of its own planes in Iran War
5. Iran shooting down a US F18
6. USS Gerald Ford retreats from battle for 3+ years due to clogged toilets and laundry room fires (sure)
7. USS Truman retreating from Red Sea for 5 year overhaul
8. "We didn't expect Iran to retaliate"
9. US Bombs Girls School In Iran
10. US Bombs Dairy Farm Accidently
11. Illegal Boat Strikes Including Geneva Convention Violation Double Tap

That was just from memory. What the hell is going on?

Hegseth and WEI.

 

[citygator]

Those missiles were USA made, but operated by Kuwait military. Detail is that the fighters weren't equip with devices on their rear to warn of that type missile coming at them. Situation reflects the ever improvable need for excellent communications between allies. Especially when many don't speak English.

CV Ford wasn't sent "home" as in back to USA, but to nearby port for some 'quick fixes'.
When you have about 5,000 people living on a ship, thinks like faulty toilets* and laundry can quickly affect morale and effciency.
* Environmental concerns means one can't just flush into the ocean without some treatment.

Big objection of many towards you on this thread (and many others) is you misuse and mangle of English and hyperbole in getting facts wrong and distorted. You do this often and consistently enough to show intent at disinformation. Hopefully USA's enemies are paying you what you earn/deserve for your services.

Its all in the link. Everyone knows what happened... our missiles are shooting down our plans. What a clusterfrick. You can quibble about nuance all you want but its all in the links and characterized appropriately by me. However, dont you love we coordinated to shoot down one of our planes... I mean two of our planes... I mean 3 or our own planes.

 

[citygator]

another leftist spreading Islamofascist propaganda ..

All linked my friend.

 

[IM2]

I believe that the problem began during the Obama administration when a wedding party and Doctors Without Borders were bombed.

Wrong.

 

[BlindBoo]

The USA wasn't tucking tail and running away completely with all our troops and gear.
Trump's draw down was integrated with training and equipping Afghanistan military to pick up the slack.

The main condition of the Accords was the truce and peace talks between the Taliban and the Afghan forces were suppose to happen in early March, and before any troops were withdrawn. Without that condition being met, ever, the Taliban continued to attack the Afghan Army, the Afghan Government, and the Afghan people. Benedict Donald did nothing to them for that. Our professional military was in charge and they degraded all the equipment those 10,000 soldier couldn't take with them. But the abandonment of the Army and our nearly unconditional withdrawals effected the moral of the Afghan Army, the Government officials and the population. Those decisions were Benedict Donald's. Disastrous as they were, the professionals of our military still carry them out.

The facts will win out over the Neo-GOP propaganda that is in your head.

Military Leaders Testify on Afghanistan Exit | Rev

Gen. Mark Milley and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin testified on the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan. Read the transcript here.

www.rev.com

 

[citygator]

Bullshyte!
First item on your list in OP claims it is the current military that are incompetent on handling aircraft, and you were specific about condition of the USA military, nothing said about civilians involved or up the chain of command.

The buffoon reference was below and was specific to leaders deciding to rely on a POS rustbucket for operational support.

Below that I show you that my OP says our military is suddenly incompetent and I point to bad planning and no precision which is also leadership. He/They just wing it was my comment.

You following?

 

[yidnar]

All linked my friend.

AI Overview



As of late March 2026, U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) reports that U.S. forces have struck over 10,000 military targets inside Iran as part of "
Operation Epic Fury". These strikes have heavily targeted Iran's military infrastructure, including reports claiming the destruction of 92% of the Iranian Navy's largest vessels.

 

[citygator]

AI Overview



As of late March 2026, U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) reports that U.S. forces have struck over 10,000 military targets inside Iran as part of "
Operation Epic Fury". These strikes have heavily targeted Iran's military infrastructure, including reports claiming the destruction of 92% of the Iranian Navy's largest vessels.

Could have done all that without shooting down our own planes. We didnt. We shot ourselves down too.