'The US isn't an option anymore': why California's immigrants are heading back to Mexico

[pknopp]

and devastated some of the industries that rely on immigrant labor,

It's as I said, get rid of the jobs and they leave.

Yeah thats so much better than just enforcing the law

Ending the jobs would be enforcing the laws. No one is doing that.

Very little effort on front side, keeping them out and deporting. No jobs need ending.

Obviously as long as the jobs are here they will come. When they are not they leave. Odd You would argue for enforcing our laws and then slink away when the discussion revolves around enforcing our laws.

Not really odd, just hypocritical.

Well yes, hugely so.

 

[DrLove]

Rump is easily the most immigrant unfriendly president in US history.
He is also the most unAmerican.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

and devastated some of the industries that rely on immigrant labor,

It's as I said, get rid of the jobs and they leave.

Yeah thats so much better than just enforcing the law

Ending the jobs would be enforcing the laws. No one is doing that.

Very little effort on front side, keeping them out and deporting. No jobs need ending.

Obviously as long as the jobs are here they will come. When they are not they leave. Odd You would argue for enforcing our laws and then slink away when the discussion revolves around enforcing our laws.

Have no problem targeting employers. Cant be argued though libs try to handcuff any border enforcement......now avoid that again,,,,

It has nothing to do with anything. As long as the jobs are here they will come. Nothing we do at the borders will stop that. The jobs not being there will though.

But you obviously do have a problem with targeting employers.

Agreed. Both sides like cheap labor..as many segments of our economy actually depend on it. Consumers like the cheap prices derived from it...and politicians love to rail against it.
If we actually surge to the border..before the economy recovers...there will be much whining as those affected industries and markets miss their labor force.

Give the illegals left..the ones with good work records..a path to legalization--and freeze out the rest..net gain for US.

That won't happen because if they are made legal, they get wage protections. So we will allow them to stream back in because that is what the businesses want after things pick back up.

You're most likely correct...but i can dream...LoL!

 

[Manonthestreet]

and devastated some of the industries that rely on immigrant labor,

It's as I said, get rid of the jobs and they leave.

Yeah thats so much better than just enforcing the law

Ending the jobs would be enforcing the laws. No one is doing that.

Very little effort on front side, keeping them out and deporting. No jobs need ending.

Obviously as long as the jobs are here they will come. When they are not they leave. Odd You would argue for enforcing our laws and then slink away when the discussion revolves around enforcing our laws.

Have no problem targeting employers. Cant be argued though libs try to handcuff any border enforcement......now avoid that again,,,,

It has nothing to do with anything. As long as the jobs are here they will come. Nothing we do at the borders will stop that. The jobs not being there will though.

But you obviously do have a problem with targeting employers.

Repeating your lie doesnt make it true dumbass........go ahead and perp walk your buds.......you wont though cause youre all talk

I've argued for it for years. My buds? I believe they should be sent to prison and have their jobs bankrupted with huge fines.

Good,,,now get on it and quit trying to claim I dont support it.........I wont hold my breath though.....

 

[pknopp]

and devastated some of the industries that rely on immigrant labor,

It's as I said, get rid of the jobs and they leave.

Yeah thats so much better than just enforcing the law

Ending the jobs would be enforcing the laws. No one is doing that.

Very little effort on front side, keeping them out and deporting. No jobs need ending.

Obviously as long as the jobs are here they will come. When they are not they leave. Odd You would argue for enforcing our laws and then slink away when the discussion revolves around enforcing our laws.

Have no problem targeting employers. Cant be argued though libs try to handcuff any border enforcement......now avoid that again,,,,

It has nothing to do with anything. As long as the jobs are here they will come. Nothing we do at the borders will stop that. The jobs not being there will though.

But you obviously do have a problem with targeting employers.

Repeating your lie doesnt make it true dumbass........go ahead and perp walk your buds.......you wont though cause youre all talk

I've argued for it for years. My buds? I believe they should be sent to prison and have their jobs bankrupted with huge fines.

Good,,,now get on it and quit trying to claim I dont support it.........I wont hold my breath though.....

I can't do anything. Those you vote for can and they will not as long as you continue to vote for them.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Love how libs say they support something but never make any attempt at doing it

 

[pknopp]

Love how libs say they support something but never make any attempt at doing it

You are the one who continues to vote for those who do nothing about what you pretend to support.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Love how libs say they support something but never make any attempt at doing it

You are the one who continues to vote for those who do nothing about what you pretend to support.

OK do tell which lib has attempted to introduce Legislation and or law enforcement that has gone after empoyers.........you can shut up now

 

[pknopp]

Love how libs say they support something but never make any attempt at doing it

You are the one who continues to vote for those who do nothing about what you pretend to support.

OK do tell which lib has attempted to introduce Legislation and or law enforcement that has gone after empoyers.........you can shut up now

Bite me. You can try and deflect all you want but I do not have to play along. My comments are about you. I do NOT support politicians of any party that allows this to continue.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So..some silver lining to the Pandemic?

'The US isn't an option anymore': why California's immigrants are heading back to Mexico

Years of anti-immigrant policies from the Trump administration have been magnified by insecurities resulting from the pandemic

www.theguardian.com

"...But they couldn’t stand the uncertainty. So, the grandmother, mom and two young children instead relocated across the southern border. The kids, both US citizens, are still able to cross the border to attend school.
“It’s not even that the country is not welcoming any more, it’s just not an option any more,” said Gallegos. “I hear that all the time from people here, and from friends and family in other countries.”
Javier Lua Figureo moved back to his home town in Michoacán, Mexico, three years ago, after living and working in California for a dozen years. Since the pandemic hit, several of his friends and family members have followed his lead, he said.
“Things aren’t perfect in Mexico,” Figureo said in Spanish. But at least there’s access to healthcare, and some unemployment benefits for those who need it, he added. “In comparison to what it was in the US, the situation for us in Mexico right now is much better.”"

Illegal immigrants

 

[Manonthestreet]

Love how libs say they support something but never make any attempt at doing it

You are the one who continues to vote for those who do nothing about what you pretend to support.

OK do tell which lib has attempted to introduce Legislation and or law enforcement that has gone after empoyers.........you can shut up now

Bite me. You can try and deflect all you want but I do not have to play along. My comments are about you. I do NOT support politicians of any party that allows this to continue.

Quit chasing your tail and man up dumbass, provide one quote where I oppose taking it to employers or shut up

 

[pknopp]

Love how libs say they support something but never make any attempt at doing it

You are the one who continues to vote for those who do nothing about what you pretend to support.

OK do tell which lib has attempted to introduce Legislation and or law enforcement that has gone after empoyers.........you can shut up now

Bite me. You can try and deflect all you want but I do not have to play along. My comments are about you. I do NOT support politicians of any party that allows this to continue.

Quit chasing your tail and man up dumbass, provide one quote where I oppose taking it to employers or shut up

It's not hard to read what you are saying.

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Love how libs say they support something but never make any attempt at doing it

You are the one who continues to vote for those who do nothing about what you pretend to support.

OK do tell which lib has attempted to introduce Legislation and or law enforcement that has gone after empoyers.........you can shut up now

Well..there was this little bill introduced in 2013..perhaps you've heard of it?

Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In that bill was E-verify--ring a bell? That was a Democrat idea. Shot down by Republicans and still controversial..now why is that?

I'm not a Dem..but could not resist the challenge~

 

[Manonthestreet]

Love how libs say they support something but never make any attempt at doing it

You are the one who continues to vote for those who do nothing about what you pretend to support.

OK do tell which lib has attempted to introduce Legislation and or law enforcement that has gone after empoyers.........you can shut up now

Bite me. You can try and deflect all you want but I do not have to play along. My comments are about you. I do NOT support politicians of any party that allows this to continue.

Quit chasing your tail and man up dumbass, provide one quote where I oppose taking it to employers or shut up

It's not hard to read what you are saying.

I know so quit trying so hard to read into it........see ya still got nothing nancy boy

 

[pknopp]

Love how libs say they support something but never make any attempt at doing it

You are the one who continues to vote for those who do nothing about what you pretend to support.

OK do tell which lib has attempted to introduce Legislation and or law enforcement that has gone after empoyers.........you can shut up now

Bite me. You can try and deflect all you want but I do not have to play along. My comments are about you. I do NOT support politicians of any party that allows this to continue.

Quit chasing your tail and man up dumbass, provide one quote where I oppose taking it to employers or shut up

It's not hard to read what you are saying.

I know so quit trying so hard to read into it........see ya still got nothing nancy boy

Your actions do not support your words so your words are worthless.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Love how libs say they support something but never make any attempt at doing it

You are the one who continues to vote for those who do nothing about what you pretend to support.

OK do tell which lib has attempted to introduce Legislation and or law enforcement that has gone after empoyers.........you can shut up now

Well..there was this little bill introduced in 2013..perhaps you've heard of it?

Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In that bill was E-verify--ring a bell? That was a Democrat idea.

I'm not a Dem..but could not resist the challenge~

Love how libs say they support something but never make any attempt at doing it

You are the one who continues to vote for those who do nothing about what you pretend to support.

OK do tell which lib has attempted to introduce Legislation and or law enforcement that has gone after empoyers.........you can shut up now

Bite me. You can try and deflect all you want but I do not have to play along. My comments are about you. I do NOT support politicians of any party that allows this to continue.

Quit chasing your tail and man up dumbass, provide one quote where I oppose taking it to employers or shut up

It's not hard to read what you are saying.

I know so quit trying so hard to read into it........see ya still got nothing nancy boy

Your actions do not support your words so your words are worthless.

Which actions dumbass.......all you know of me are my words

 

[Manonthestreet]

Love how libs say they support something but never make any attempt at doing it

You are the one who continues to vote for those who do nothing about what you pretend to support.

OK do tell which lib has attempted to introduce Legislation and or law enforcement that has gone after empoyers.........you can shut up now

Well..there was this little bill introduced in 2013..perhaps you've heard of it?

Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In that bill was E-verify--ring a bell? That was a Democrat idea. Shot down by Republicans and still controversial..now why is that?

I'm not a Dem..but could not resist the challenge~

And do Chuckies actions match his words .....what does Chuckie say now days.........or was it all smoke and mirrors for the time

 

[pknopp]

Love how libs say they support something but never make any attempt at doing it

You are the one who continues to vote for those who do nothing about what you pretend to support.

OK do tell which lib has attempted to introduce Legislation and or law enforcement that has gone after empoyers.........you can shut up now

Well..there was this little bill introduced in 2013..perhaps you've heard of it?

Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In that bill was E-verify--ring a bell? That was a Democrat idea.

I'm not a Dem..but could not resist the challenge~

Love how libs say they support something but never make any attempt at doing it

You are the one who continues to vote for those who do nothing about what you pretend to support.

OK do tell which lib has attempted to introduce Legislation and or law enforcement that has gone after empoyers.........you can shut up now

Bite me. You can try and deflect all you want but I do not have to play along. My comments are about you. I do NOT support politicians of any party that allows this to continue.

Quit chasing your tail and man up dumbass, provide one quote where I oppose taking it to employers or shut up

It's not hard to read what you are saying.

I know so quit trying so hard to read into it........see ya still got nothing nancy boy

Your actions do not support your words so your words are worthless.

Which actions dumbass.......all you know of me are my words

I already told you. You won't hold those you vote for accountable for the lack of actions. You won't demand they uphold the laws and you won't insist on even stronger laws for your support.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Love how libs say they support something but never make any attempt at doing it

You are the one who continues to vote for those who do nothing about what you pretend to support.

OK do tell which lib has attempted to introduce Legislation and or law enforcement that has gone after empoyers.........you can shut up now

Well..there was this little bill introduced in 2013..perhaps you've heard of it?

Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In that bill was E-verify--ring a bell? That was a Democrat idea.

I'm not a Dem..but could not resist the challenge~

Love how libs say they support something but never make any attempt at doing it

You are the one who continues to vote for those who do nothing about what you pretend to support.

OK do tell which lib has attempted to introduce Legislation and or law enforcement that has gone after empoyers.........you can shut up now

Bite me. You can try and deflect all you want but I do not have to play along. My comments are about you. I do NOT support politicians of any party that allows this to continue.

Quit chasing your tail and man up dumbass, provide one quote where I oppose taking it to employers or shut up

It's not hard to read what you are saying.

I know so quit trying so hard to read into it........see ya still got nothing nancy boy

Your actions do not support your words so your words are worthless.

Which actions dumbass.......all you know of me are my words

I already told you. You won't hold those you vote for accountable for the lack of actions. You won't demand they uphold the laws and you won't insist on even stronger laws for your support.

You dont know that so what is that strike 10.......you are so out.

 

[pknopp]

Love how libs say they support something but never make any attempt at doing it

You are the one who continues to vote for those who do nothing about what you pretend to support.

OK do tell which lib has attempted to introduce Legislation and or law enforcement that has gone after empoyers.........you can shut up now

Well..there was this little bill introduced in 2013..perhaps you've heard of it?

Border Security, Economic Opportunity, and Immigration Modernization Act of 2013 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

In that bill was E-verify--ring a bell? That was a Democrat idea.

I'm not a Dem..but could not resist the challenge~

Love how libs say they support something but never make any attempt at doing it

You are the one who continues to vote for those who do nothing about what you pretend to support.

OK do tell which lib has attempted to introduce Legislation and or law enforcement that has gone after empoyers.........you can shut up now

Bite me. You can try and deflect all you want but I do not have to play along. My comments are about you. I do NOT support politicians of any party that allows this to continue.

Quit chasing your tail and man up dumbass, provide one quote where I oppose taking it to employers or shut up

It's not hard to read what you are saying.

I know so quit trying so hard to read into it........see ya still got nothing nancy boy

Your actions do not support your words so your words are worthless.

Which actions dumbass.......all you know of me are my words

I already told you. You won't hold those you vote for accountable for the lack of actions. You won't demand they uphold the laws and you won't insist on even stronger laws for your support.

You dont know that so what is that strike 10.......you are so out.

I do know that.