Seawtch, this isn't about discrimination. This is about trust. Bod, this is also about sexual deviance. Gaybikersailor, you keep hammering the fact that the Navy screens for HIV every six months. That fact alone gives significance to the fact that the Navy recognizes the risks involved by having you gomers in the ranks.
No matter how you slice this issue it comes down to the fact that this latest liberal scheme is designed to diminish the capabilities of the US Military, and destroy its Esprit DE Corp. Liberals are always supportive of anything that will hurt this country. As civilians you people can ride dirty, and honk on each other all that you want. You can enjoy all of the HIV that you can handle. Just don't screw up the military with your deviant sexual preferences.
There is a reason that you folks haven't been welcome. That reason keeps bring us back to trust doesn't it?
Let me make sure I'm clear.
This isn't a disagreement about what's best for our military, but is instead an active attempt to hurt the military? Those who are for the allowing gays to serve openly aren't worried about equality, feel no concern about ending discriminatory practices; they want to see us weakened?
From your tone I can see that we are at opposite ends of this discussion. Although I can sense that you have a compelling urge to assess blame this isn't about discriminatory practices. Let me say this again serving in the military isn't a right. Serving is an earned privilege. If this were not the case no one would wash out during Ranger, or Sniper training.
Those who complete such a rigorous training regime form a special bond, and a profound trust. That aspect would be missing if standards were set low enough so that everyone could qualify. That in its self would hurt the military, and reduce combat readiness. There are those ugly words again; high standards, qualify, earned trust, respect, loyalty, personal courage. Gays serving openly will weaken us.
Yes Grace, I am fascinated with the word trust. Trust, and the value of team is instilled in everyone who has served. The only ones who disagree with these concepts are found with in the gay community.
Gaybikersailor, I'm continuously amused at the liberal practice of incoherent personal attacks when you folks can't make a credible argument. There is a long history of excluding gays from the ranks of the American armed forces. Gays can't qualify to serve for obvious reasons. That is why serving gays have been discharged where they have been found. Openly serving gays will undermine core military values such as trust, team, history, and traditions.
The CinC, as are most liberals is not a friend of the US Military. Obama's actions are about to undermine years of achievement and tradition. The only ones who will be happy about this are his rump rangers.
If you weren't so anally retentive you would admit to the fact that 6 month HIV screening is just a feel good, cover your ass measure (I hope that didn't excite you too much.) It doesn't solve the problem. Even you, "the personnel man", should know that HIV screening today wont stop you from engaging in unprotected, deviant sex tomorrow. The chances are great that you would become infected. How much damage could you do over the ensuing months before your next screening? Oops! Here is another reason why gays shouldn't be allowed to serve isn't it.
