The Troops are concerned about gays serving openly.

[Spoonman]

Actually, yes. Under the UCMJ there is a recourse for that. First, you tell the person doing the offense that you don't appreciate it, and that if it continues, you'll take it to the chain of command. If it happens again, you take it to the chain of command and let them handle it.

However..........just like heterosexuals have a certain "type" (hair color, shape, complexion, etc.), so do gays. It seems like the people who are the most scared of "catching the ghey" are those that don't know anything about them.

And.......FWIW..........if you're a fat redneck slob and chicks won't look at you, what makes you think that gays are gonna want a shot at you?

so now what happens if they leer at you in the shower?

Same deal........sexual harassment is sexual harassment and has no place in the military.

In that case i think there are going to be a whole lot of gays kicked out of the military

 

[ABikerSailor]

so now what happens if they leer at you in the shower?

Same deal........sexual harassment is sexual harassment and has no place in the military.

In that case i think there are going to be a whole lot of gays kicked out of the military

Your lack of service is glaringly apparent. Maybe you should enlist for 1 term to see if your bullshit is sound or not.

 

[High_Gravity]

Are gays like hungry sexual predators? how come women are not scared to shower with the lesbians?

 

[Spoonman]

Same deal........sexual harassment is sexual harassment and has no place in the military.

In that case i think there are going to be a whole lot of gays kicked out of the military

Your lack of service is glaringly apparent. Maybe you should enlist for 1 term to see if your bullshit is sound or not.

Yes, because it is so much different in the military than it is in real life. You enlist and your sex drive goes away btw, I have served.

 

[ABikerSailor]

In that case i think there are going to be a whole lot of gays kicked out of the military

Your lack of service is glaringly apparent. Maybe you should enlist for 1 term to see if your bullshit is sound or not.

Yes, because it is so much different in the military than it is in real life. You enlist and your sex drive goes away btw, I have served.

For how long and what branch? Wait a minute......didn't you say that you never served?

As far as the sex drive going away? Nope........mine stayed with me for 20 years. Got 3 boys and oh yeah.......visited just about every brothel in the Med. My favorite red light district was in Catania Sicily.

 

[High_Gravity]

Your lack of service is glaringly apparent. Maybe you should enlist for 1 term to see if your bullshit is sound or not.

Yes, because it is so much different in the military than it is in real life. You enlist and your sex drive goes away btw, I have served.

For how long and what branch? Wait a minute......didn't you say that you never served?

As far as the sex drive going away? Nope........mine stayed with me for 20 years. Got 3 boys and oh yeah.......visited just about every brothel in the Med. My favorite red light district was in Catania Sicily.

Your career sounds awesome, all I did in mine was live in Omaha for 4 years, the West Virginia of California for 3 years and 2 trips to the desert. Navy always goes to awesome places.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Yes, because it is so much different in the military than it is in real life. You enlist and your sex drive goes away btw, I have served.

For how long and what branch? Wait a minute......didn't you say that you never served?

As far as the sex drive going away? Nope........mine stayed with me for 20 years. Got 3 boys and oh yeah.......visited just about every brothel in the Med. My favorite red light district was in Catania Sicily.

Your career sounds awesome, all I did in mine was live in Omaha for 4 years, the West Virginia of California for 3 years and 2 trips to the desert. Navy always goes to awesome places.

26 different countries and 49 different states. Only missed out on Alaska.

And yeah.........going to places like Rhodes Greece and standing where the Colossus of Rhodes stood was a treat. Same with the church in Palma Mallorca Spain (cornerstone was laid in the 1200's and it was completed in the 1400's. It even has a Jolly Roger on the floor because it was built by pirates).

Probably the 2 weirdest places were Anatalya Turkey (the brothel was a prison) or Dubai U.A.E., because you had the old section of town where you saw everyone in robes and burkas, but go across the town to the mall, and you'd see Arab women in western style clothing (some were quite revealing).

But........it wasn't all fun and games, because I also was in 4 war zones drawing hazard pay.

 

[Spoonman]

Your lack of service is glaringly apparent. Maybe you should enlist for 1 term to see if your bullshit is sound or not.

Yes, because it is so much different in the military than it is in real life. You enlist and your sex drive goes away btw, I have served.

For how long and what branch? Wait a minute......didn't you say that you never served?

As far as the sex drive going away? Nope........mine stayed with me for 20 years. Got 3 boys and oh yeah.......visited just about every brothel in the Med. My favorite red light district was in Catania Sicily.

first you say I said I was a sailor, now you say I said I never served. I'll give you a hint. I served with the son of a former Navy CNO. You even quoted one of his programs.

 

[old navy]

Are gays like hungry sexual predators? how come women are not scared to shower with the lesbians?

This thread has bored me until now.

Can we talk more about women showering together?

 

[Seawytch]

because it still is an issue for some people

Do you have any idea what an "issue" it was for people when we desegregated the military? A month before Truman desegregated, a Gallup poll showed 63% of Americans being opposed to racial integration in the military (70% of Americans support lifting the ban).

Were you aware that President Truman conducted a survey prior to integrating the military? Care to venture a guess at what the military attitudes were regarding integration? Only 26% supported integration. Now, if you were to look at the DADT Pentagon survey, you would see that about the same number of people that supported integration are opposed to lifting the ban.

Now imagine that Truman had NOT integrated the armed forces because it was "an issue for some people".

How can 63% be against and 70% for? What kind of fuzy math is that?

Try reading my post again. Let's try making it REALLY simple:

Americans opposed to integration prior to Truman desegregating: 63%

Americans that SUPPORT lifting DADT: 70%

Troops that SUPPORTED integration: 23%

 

[Spoonman]

Do you have any idea what an "issue" it was for people when we desegregated the military? A month before Truman desegregated, a Gallup poll showed 63% of Americans being opposed to racial integration in the military (70% of Americans support lifting the ban).

Were you aware that President Truman conducted a survey prior to integrating the military? Care to venture a guess at what the military attitudes were regarding integration? Only 26% supported integration. Now, if you were to look at the DADT Pentagon survey, you would see that about the same number of people that supported integration are opposed to lifting the ban.

Now imagine that Truman had NOT integrated the armed forces because it was "an issue for some people".

How can 63% be against and 70% for? What kind of fuzy math is that?

Try reading my post again. Let's try making it REALLY simple:

Americans opposed to integration prior to Truman desegregating: 63%

Americans that SUPPORT lifting DADT: 70%

Troops that SUPPORTED integration: 23%

well you should have said it that way in the first place. BTW, where did they take that 70% in favor survey? Gay bars?

 

[Seawytch]

because it still is an issue for some people

And that is a small number and getting smaller...btw, since when is the military driven by what members don't "like"?

kind of a hypocritical statement since you are asking them to change for what YOU don't like

We aren't asking ANYONE to "change". What the removal of DADT will be doing (very, very soon I might add) is require that everyone, gay or straight, serves under the EXACT SAME rules and regulations.

I noticed that you COMPLETELY ignored my post about racial integration and the overwhelming opposition to integration. Should Truman NOT have desegregated the military because such a HUGE majority were opposed to it?

 

[Seawytch]

How can 63% be against and 70% for? What kind of fuzy math is that?

Try reading my post again. Let's try making it REALLY simple:

Americans opposed to integration prior to Truman desegregating: 63%

Americans that SUPPORT lifting DADT: 70%

Troops that SUPPORTED integration: 23%

well you should have said it that way in the first place. BTW, where did they take that 70% in favor survey? Gay bars?

I did say it. Not my fault if you can't comprehend it unless it is in simple bullet form.

CNN One Year Ago:
A full 78 percent of respondents said that "people who are openly gay or homosexual" should be able to serve in the armed forces.

Washington Post/CBS:

Do you think [half sample: homosexuals / half sample: gays and lesbians] who DO publicly disclose their sexual orientation should be allowed to serve in the military or not?

12/12/10 Yes: 77% No: 21% No Opinion: 2% No No opinion

 

[High_Gravity]

I think we need to work on putting a plan together to help the women adjust to showering with the lesbians.

 

[SFC Ollie]

I think we need to work on putting a plan together to help the women adjust to showering with the lesbians.

We could post shower guards....

 

[High_Gravity]

I think we need to work on putting a plan together to help the women adjust to showering with the lesbians.

We could post shower guards....

I think that would be the responsible thing to do, to make sure the transition goes smoothly.

 

[SFC Ollie]

I think we need to work on putting a plan together to help the women adjust to showering with the lesbians.

We could post shower guards....

I think that would be the responsible thing to do, to make sure the transition goes smoothly.

I'll take the first shift.

 

[High_Gravity]

We could post shower guards....

I think that would be the responsible thing to do, to make sure the transition goes smoothly.

I'll take the first shift.

I volunteer to work a double shift after your done.

 

[Seawytch]

I think we need to work on putting a plan together to help the women adjust to showering with the lesbians.

"The women" have "adjusted" to showering with us just fine. A woman that joins the military and doesn't expect that there will be lesbians there is deluding herself. That there were bound to be many lesbians in the military is one of the reasons I joined

 

[High_Gravity]

I think we need to work on putting a plan together to help the women adjust to showering with the lesbians.

"The women" have "adjusted" to showering with us just fine. A woman that joins the military and doesn't expect that there will be lesbians there is deluding herself. That there were bound to be many lesbians in the military is one of the reasons I joined

Hey me and Ollie are just trying to help.