The Troops are concerned about gays serving openly.


Shit......I've known they've been in the military since 1983.

I think they have been in every war this country has fought in to be honest.

Correct. And, Washington's general Baron von Steuben, who was the guy that sorted out the army in Valley Forge and taught tactics was rumored to be gay.......

In 1764 Steuben became chamberlain to Fürst Josef Friedrich Wilhelm of Hohenzollern-Hechingen. In 1769, he started using the title of baron, based on a falsified lineage prepared by his father.[3] He was the only courtier to accompany his incognito prince to France in 1771, hoping to borrow money. Failing to find funds, they returned to Germany in 1775, deeply in debt.[1]

In 1776, he was alleged to be homosexual and was accused of improper sexual behavior with young boys.[3] Whether or not Steuben was actually intimate with other men is not entirely known, but the rumors compelled him to seek employment elsewhere.[3] Steuben tried employment in several foreign armies including Austria, Baden, and France.

Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Shit......I've known they've been in the military since 1983.

I think they have been in every war this country has fought in to be honest.

Correct. And, Washington's general Baron von Steuben, who was the guy that sorted out the army in Valley Forge and taught tactics was rumored to be gay.......

In 1764 Steuben became chamberlain to Fürst Josef Friedrich Wilhelm of Hohenzollern-Hechingen. In 1769, he started using the title of baron, based on a falsified lineage prepared by his father.[3] He was the only courtier to accompany his incognito prince to France in 1771, hoping to borrow money. Failing to find funds, they returned to Germany in 1775, deeply in debt.[1]

In 1776, he was alleged to be homosexual and was accused of improper sexual behavior with young boys.[3] Whether or not Steuben was actually intimate with other men is not entirely known, but the rumors compelled him to seek employment elsewhere.[3] Steuben tried employment in several foreign armies including Austria, Baden, and France.

Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

From what I can remember homosexuality goes back to the days of Alexander the Great so they have always been here, they just couldn't say anything because of the bigotry and intolerance in those days.
 
Yeah, I am sure you find vicious, demeaning and derogatory attacks against gays and lesbians insulting.
You are full of shit.
If that doesn't close the book on your dumb ass nothing will.

Ok so find some of my vicious, demeaning derogatory attacks against gays? Welll go ahead.

Name one time someone used them and you didn't back them up.
Just one.
You are like the wimp that hangs around at a fight where a bully has bullied some small kid. You sit and watch and do nothing. Same thing as supporting it.

So in other words - yada, yada, yada. You are just another empty suit flapping his gums and shouting out false accusations.
 
I think they have been in every war this country has fought in to be honest.

And you didn't hear them bitching about it until now. interesting

You keep going on about us "whining" and "bitching"....but we won...nothing to whine and ***** about now....at least by us.

interesting choice of an avatar. She bucked the system and got her daughters raped. Then out of revenge she fought some small army groups on extended supply lines and let it get to her head that she was actually winning something. She let her arrogance and rage lead her to some grievous strategy decisions and not only destroyed herself but her followers.
 
We'll see.......

What did they win? was there a trophy awarded? did they get their names on a plaque?

Hey Spooner'tard.........two quick questions sportcheck.....

1. Did you ever serve in the military at all?

2. If the answer is yes, how many gays were you aware of that were serving alongside you?
 
You've never answered the question. What service, for how long, and did you know any gays?

Pretty simple questions actually.
 
You've never answered the question. What service, for how long, and did you know any gays?

Pretty simple questions actually.

Well actually I did, and somehow you took it as I was a sailor.

Actually......no you didn't. What service, how long, and did you know any gays?

Until those questions are answered fully, consider yourself to not be an expert.
 
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You've never answered the question. What service, for how long, and did you know any gays?

Pretty simple questions actually.

Well actually I did, and somehow you took it as I was a sailor.

Actually......no you didn't. What service, how long, and did you know any gays?

Until those questions are answered fully, consider yourself to not be an expert.
Those questions have been answered. you are to clueless to remember, in fact you even got it wrong. And i could give a rats ass about what criteria you set as being an expert. you sure as hell aren't one yourself. For someone who claims to have been in the military you are the one who has posted incorrect facts. shit you missed stuff you could have googled and gotten right
 
If you wanna, you can call and ask Amarillo MEPS who was serving as the LPO from 1999 until 2002 May.............

It's the same name that I have on my certificate on my profile.


Try again you poor clueless bastard.
 
If you wanna, you can call and ask Amarillo MEPS who was serving as the LPO from 1999 until 2002 May.............

It's the same name that I have on my certificate on my profile.


Try again you poor clueless bastard.

sure I'll call up and ask them, do you know abikersailor
 
If you wanna, you can call and ask Amarillo MEPS who was serving as the LPO from 1999 until 2002 May.............

It's the same name that I have on my certificate on my profile.


Try again you poor clueless bastard.

sure I'll call up and ask them, do you know abikersailor

Like I said.......ask who ran the MEPS for the Navy office. They will tell you it was me.
 
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