The Tea Party has become the Article V movement

[progressive hunter]

For Trump to be so dependent upon the Tea Party and that he needs them as much as they let on, one wonders why this entire Tea Party forum is a ghost town.

I dont think I've ever heard trump say the words tea party,,,so I see no connections


this and other discussions about the tea party are dead because the republican party just used us for their benefit and once they got back in office it was abandoned,,,

I'm curious to see what happens if trump loses in 2020

I was more than disappointed in the Tea Party "movement" than any American alive.

Having spent decade upon decade and tens of thousands of dollars on constitutionalist causes, I could never wrap my head around the Tea Party taking up the torch for the Council on Foreign Relations and their agenda. I wish someone could explain WTH happened????

I never heard that,,,

constitutional limited government
fiscal responsibility
free market

were the only things I knew about

there may be some republicans that pushed that, but no true tea partiers

 

[progressive hunter]

With the GOP recently in control and passed on repealing and replacing Obamacare, something they ran on doing, and spending like a drunken sailor, while funding things like Planned Parenthood but not the wall, what are we left with?

We are left with a one party system called the Swamp.

So what to do? The Article V movement is the only way to reign in the power of the out of control Federal government. Getting 2/3 of the states may seem unattainable, and well may be, but what else is there other than watching the Republic circle the drain?

At the bare minimum, states need to impose a balanced budget amendment on the US Congress with term limits on that same Congress.

Both are supported by about 80% of the American people but will never be realized with the current political set up. Congress will not vote to surrender their power in any way. It is now up to the states to do so or it never gets done.

The tea party was a movement of useful idiots. They have no need of you anymore. Now go make excuses for Trump having larger deficits than Obama and for destabilizing everything.

your confusing us with republicans

 

[BlackFlag]

With the GOP recently in control and passed on repealing and replacing Obamacare, something they ran on doing, and spending like a drunken sailor, while funding things like Planned Parenthood but not the wall, what are we left with?

We are left with a one party system called the Swamp.

So what to do? The Article V movement is the only way to reign in the power of the out of control Federal government. Getting 2/3 of the states may seem unattainable, and well may be, but what else is there other than watching the Republic circle the drain?

At the bare minimum, states need to impose a balanced budget amendment on the US Congress with term limits on that same Congress.

Both are supported by about 80% of the American people but will never be realized with the current political set up. Congress will not vote to surrender their power in any way. It is now up to the states to do so or it never gets done.

The tea party was a movement of useful idiots. They have no need of you anymore. Now go make excuses for Trump having larger deficits than Obama and for destabilizing everything.

your confusing us with republicans

No, I’m completely dismissing you.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

For Trump to be so dependent upon the Tea Party and that he needs them as much as they let on, one wonders why this entire Tea Party forum is a ghost town.

I dont think I've ever heard trump say the words tea party,,,so I see no connections


this and other discussions about the tea party are dead because the republican party just used us for their benefit and once they got back in office it was abandoned,,,

I'm curious to see what happens if trump loses in 2020

I was more than disappointed in the Tea Party "movement" than any American alive.

Having spent decade upon decade and tens of thousands of dollars on constitutionalist causes, I could never wrap my head around the Tea Party taking up the torch for the Council on Foreign Relations and their agenda. I wish someone could explain WTH happened????

I never heard that,,,

constitutional limited government
fiscal responsibility
free market

were the only things I knew about

there may be some republicans that pushed that, but no true tea partiers

Well, maybe this is what you need to know about the Tea Party:

1) One of the early supporters / members of the Tea Party was House Majority Leader, Dick Armey. Armey was the man who authored the globalist legislation that created the TRILLION DOLLAR plus monstrosity called the Department of Homeland (IN) Security. Nobody seems to be able to justify its creation:

'Homeland Security': The Trillion-Dollar Concept That No One Can Define

Armey would remain a Tea Party supporter for nearly a decade after creating that wasteful agency that drove us closer to a One World Government

2) It was Tea Party Republican, Rep. James Sensenbrenner, that introduced the so - called "Patriot Act." More Americans than foreigners have been victimized by this unconstitutional disaster that allows for warrant less search and seizures, pursuing people and denying them Due Process, and even killing people without probable cause. I can testify to its misuse and misapplication

3) Rep. James Sensenbrenner also introduced the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify. That was an Orwellian idea that was more like Hitler's tattoo idea on steroids. In the late 1990s the general public was against National ID by a margin of 87 to 13 percent with the conservatives leading the charge against it.

Also bear in mind that National ID was proposed in the midst of the Fair Tax gaining traction. While the Fair Tax may never have gotten enacted, it did bring pressure on the illegally ratified 16th Amendment (which is a plank out of the Communist Manifesto.) National ID gave Socialist Security a reprieve since your Socialist Surveillance Number ...oooops, "Social Security Number" became your de facto National ID "unique identifier" which gave a pretext for saving the 16th Amendment

4) If the Tea Party is all about a free market, it does not stand to reason that they adopted the solutions of the National Socialists on the immigration issue. Instead of promoting the Rule of Law and foregoing forced citizenship, the Tea Party fell for an agenda that the Democrats had tried to introduce some years ago. We have an opportunity to rethink the whole strategy, but the Tea Party is mesmerized by a program of insanity on this issue and unable to even have a productive discussion. So infantile are those who buy into it, if you do not agree with their solution, they accuse you of being for the left

5) Then there is the wall worship and Donald Trump playing the part of Jesus. You're for fiscal responsibility and a free market? When you propose an idea, do you REALLY consider anything besides the start up costs? What about the maintenance costs? Better still, what about a policy's affect on Freedom and Liberty?

I'm sorry, but in reality since its inception the Tea Party has passed far more expensive laws than the Dems ever could have. The Tea Party would demand that Americans fund the Tea Party albatrosses - which the community organizer did and then they complain about how much debt we've taken on. AND, adding insult to injury, we've yet to have that conversation about lost liberties.

When your standard bearer is a man is for gun control: bans on so - called assault weapons, wants waiting periods, supports red flag laws, and the ban on bump stocks (unconstitutional on three grounds going beyond gun control); the same guy who nominated a POLICE STATE tyrant that is also anti gun and will abuse eminent domain statutes, I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

Everything is bass ackwards and upside down.

Donald Trump talks to Rupert Murdoch every week to discuss strategy

 

[xyz]

Poll: "Birther" Myth Persists Among Tea Partiers, All Americans - CBS News

Tea Party Nation Goes Birther | Right Wing Watch

Tea Party Nation Pushes Birther Conspiracy, Heads to Florida ⋆ IREHR

old articles but interesting.

 

[progressive hunter]

Poll: "Birther" Myth Persists Among Tea Partiers, All Americans - CBS News

Tea Party Nation Goes Birther | Right Wing Watch

Tea Party Nation Pushes Birther Conspiracy, Heads to Florida ⋆ IREHR

old articles but interesting.

none of those fit me,,,thats the republican influence

a lot of us knew we needed to beat the republicans before we could deal with the democrats,,,

and dick army was a fraud and got kicked out of the freedom works

 

[progressive hunter]

For Trump to be so dependent upon the Tea Party and that he needs them as much as they let on, one wonders why this entire Tea Party forum is a ghost town.

I dont think I've ever heard trump say the words tea party,,,so I see no connections


this and other discussions about the tea party are dead because the republican party just used us for their benefit and once they got back in office it was abandoned,,,

I'm curious to see what happens if trump loses in 2020

I was more than disappointed in the Tea Party "movement" than any American alive.

Having spent decade upon decade and tens of thousands of dollars on constitutionalist causes, I could never wrap my head around the Tea Party taking up the torch for the Council on Foreign Relations and their agenda. I wish someone could explain WTH happened????

I never heard that,,,

constitutional limited government
fiscal responsibility
free market

were the only things I knew about

there may be some republicans that pushed that, but no true tea partiers

Well, maybe this is what you need to know about the Tea Party:

1) One of the early supporters / members of the Tea Party was House Majority Leader, Dick Armey. Armey was the man who authored the globalist legislation that created the TRILLION DOLLAR plus monstrosity called the Department of Homeland (IN) Security. Nobody seems to be able to justify its creation:

'Homeland Security': The Trillion-Dollar Concept That No One Can Define

Armey would remain a Tea Party supporter for nearly a decade after creating that wasteful agency that drove us closer to a One World Government

2) It was Tea Party Republican, Rep. James Sensenbrenner, that introduced the so - called "Patriot Act." More Americans than foreigners have been victimized by this unconstitutional disaster that allows for warrant less search and seizures, pursuing people and denying them Due Process, and even killing people without probable cause. I can testify to its misuse and misapplication

3) Rep. James Sensenbrenner also introduced the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify. That was an Orwellian idea that was more like Hitler's tattoo idea on steroids. In the late 1990s the general public was against National ID by a margin of 87 to 13 percent with the conservatives leading the charge against it.

Also bear in mind that National ID was proposed in the midst of the Fair Tax gaining traction. While the Fair Tax may never have gotten enacted, it did bring pressure on the illegally ratified 16th Amendment (which is a plank out of the Communist Manifesto.) National ID gave Socialist Security a reprieve since your Socialist Surveillance Number ...oooops, "Social Security Number" became your de facto National ID "unique identifier" which gave a pretext for saving the 16th Amendment

4) If the Tea Party is all about a free market, it does not stand to reason that they adopted the solutions of the National Socialists on the immigration issue. Instead of promoting the Rule of Law and foregoing forced citizenship, the Tea Party fell for an agenda that the Democrats had tried to introduce some years ago. We have an opportunity to rethink the whole strategy, but the Tea Party is mesmerized by a program of insanity on this issue and unable to even have a productive discussion. So infantile are those who buy into it, if you do not agree with their solution, they accuse you of being for the left

5) Then there is the wall worship and Donald Trump playing the part of Jesus. You're for fiscal responsibility and a free market? When you propose an idea, do you REALLY consider anything besides the start up costs? What about the maintenance costs? Better still, what about a policy's affect on Freedom and Liberty?

I'm sorry, but in reality since its inception the Tea Party has passed far more expensive laws than the Dems ever could have. The Tea Party would demand that Americans fund the Tea Party albatrosses - which the community organizer did and then they complain about how much debt we've taken on. AND, adding insult to injury, we've yet to have that conversation about lost liberties.

When your standard bearer is a man is for gun control: bans on so - called assault weapons, wants waiting periods, supports red flag laws, and the ban on bump stocks (unconstitutional on three grounds going beyond gun control); the same guy who nominated a POLICE STATE tyrant that is also anti gun and will abuse eminent domain statutes, I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

Everything is bass ackwards and upside down.

Donald Trump talks to Rupert Murdoch every week to discuss strategy

more like he was sent packing
Dick Armey resigns from Tea Party group

 

[Porter Rockwell]

For Trump to be so dependent upon the Tea Party and that he needs them as much as they let on, one wonders why this entire Tea Party forum is a ghost town.

I dont think I've ever heard trump say the words tea party,,,so I see no connections


this and other discussions about the tea party are dead because the republican party just used us for their benefit and once they got back in office it was abandoned,,,

I'm curious to see what happens if trump loses in 2020

I was more than disappointed in the Tea Party "movement" than any American alive.

Having spent decade upon decade and tens of thousands of dollars on constitutionalist causes, I could never wrap my head around the Tea Party taking up the torch for the Council on Foreign Relations and their agenda. I wish someone could explain WTH happened????

I never heard that,,,

constitutional limited government
fiscal responsibility
free market

were the only things I knew about

there may be some republicans that pushed that, but no true tea partiers

Well, maybe this is what you need to know about the Tea Party:

1) One of the early supporters / members of the Tea Party was House Majority Leader, Dick Armey. Armey was the man who authored the globalist legislation that created the TRILLION DOLLAR plus monstrosity called the Department of Homeland (IN) Security. Nobody seems to be able to justify its creation:

'Homeland Security': The Trillion-Dollar Concept That No One Can Define

Armey would remain a Tea Party supporter for nearly a decade after creating that wasteful agency that drove us closer to a One World Government

2) It was Tea Party Republican, Rep. James Sensenbrenner, that introduced the so - called "Patriot Act." More Americans than foreigners have been victimized by this unconstitutional disaster that allows for warrant less search and seizures, pursuing people and denying them Due Process, and even killing people without probable cause. I can testify to its misuse and misapplication

3) Rep. James Sensenbrenner also introduced the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify. That was an Orwellian idea that was more like Hitler's tattoo idea on steroids. In the late 1990s the general public was against National ID by a margin of 87 to 13 percent with the conservatives leading the charge against it.

Also bear in mind that National ID was proposed in the midst of the Fair Tax gaining traction. While the Fair Tax may never have gotten enacted, it did bring pressure on the illegally ratified 16th Amendment (which is a plank out of the Communist Manifesto.) National ID gave Socialist Security a reprieve since your Socialist Surveillance Number ...oooops, "Social Security Number" became your de facto National ID "unique identifier" which gave a pretext for saving the 16th Amendment

4) If the Tea Party is all about a free market, it does not stand to reason that they adopted the solutions of the National Socialists on the immigration issue. Instead of promoting the Rule of Law and foregoing forced citizenship, the Tea Party fell for an agenda that the Democrats had tried to introduce some years ago. We have an opportunity to rethink the whole strategy, but the Tea Party is mesmerized by a program of insanity on this issue and unable to even have a productive discussion. So infantile are those who buy into it, if you do not agree with their solution, they accuse you of being for the left

5) Then there is the wall worship and Donald Trump playing the part of Jesus. You're for fiscal responsibility and a free market? When you propose an idea, do you REALLY consider anything besides the start up costs? What about the maintenance costs? Better still, what about a policy's affect on Freedom and Liberty?

I'm sorry, but in reality since its inception the Tea Party has passed far more expensive laws than the Dems ever could have. The Tea Party would demand that Americans fund the Tea Party albatrosses - which the community organizer did and then they complain about how much debt we've taken on. AND, adding insult to injury, we've yet to have that conversation about lost liberties.

When your standard bearer is a man is for gun control: bans on so - called assault weapons, wants waiting periods, supports red flag laws, and the ban on bump stocks (unconstitutional on three grounds going beyond gun control); the same guy who nominated a POLICE STATE tyrant that is also anti gun and will abuse eminent domain statutes, I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

Everything is bass ackwards and upside down.

Donald Trump talks to Rupert Murdoch every week to discuss strategy

more like he was sent packing
Dick Armey resigns from Tea Party group

The point is the Tea Party has over-seen the largest, most expansive, and repressive laws ever passed in American history. Armey stayed on nearly a full decade after creating that flustercuck. Virtually all of it has benefited off the very people that conservatives were saying were the bad guys until just after 9 / 11. So, now, evil is good?

Adding insult to injury, the pretext used to justify building this massive sized government was, in reality, an attack on the free market system.

Explain to me what I'm missing.

 

[progressive hunter]

I dont think I've ever heard trump say the words tea party,,,so I see no connections


this and other discussions about the tea party are dead because the republican party just used us for their benefit and once they got back in office it was abandoned,,,

I'm curious to see what happens if trump loses in 2020

I was more than disappointed in the Tea Party "movement" than any American alive.

Having spent decade upon decade and tens of thousands of dollars on constitutionalist causes, I could never wrap my head around the Tea Party taking up the torch for the Council on Foreign Relations and their agenda. I wish someone could explain WTH happened????

I never heard that,,,

constitutional limited government
fiscal responsibility
free market

were the only things I knew about

there may be some republicans that pushed that, but no true tea partiers

Well, maybe this is what you need to know about the Tea Party:

1) One of the early supporters / members of the Tea Party was House Majority Leader, Dick Armey. Armey was the man who authored the globalist legislation that created the TRILLION DOLLAR plus monstrosity called the Department of Homeland (IN) Security. Nobody seems to be able to justify its creation:

'Homeland Security': The Trillion-Dollar Concept That No One Can Define

Armey would remain a Tea Party supporter for nearly a decade after creating that wasteful agency that drove us closer to a One World Government

2) It was Tea Party Republican, Rep. James Sensenbrenner, that introduced the so - called "Patriot Act." More Americans than foreigners have been victimized by this unconstitutional disaster that allows for warrant less search and seizures, pursuing people and denying them Due Process, and even killing people without probable cause. I can testify to its misuse and misapplication

3) Rep. James Sensenbrenner also introduced the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify. That was an Orwellian idea that was more like Hitler's tattoo idea on steroids. In the late 1990s the general public was against National ID by a margin of 87 to 13 percent with the conservatives leading the charge against it.

Also bear in mind that National ID was proposed in the midst of the Fair Tax gaining traction. While the Fair Tax may never have gotten enacted, it did bring pressure on the illegally ratified 16th Amendment (which is a plank out of the Communist Manifesto.) National ID gave Socialist Security a reprieve since your Socialist Surveillance Number ...oooops, "Social Security Number" became your de facto National ID "unique identifier" which gave a pretext for saving the 16th Amendment

4) If the Tea Party is all about a free market, it does not stand to reason that they adopted the solutions of the National Socialists on the immigration issue. Instead of promoting the Rule of Law and foregoing forced citizenship, the Tea Party fell for an agenda that the Democrats had tried to introduce some years ago. We have an opportunity to rethink the whole strategy, but the Tea Party is mesmerized by a program of insanity on this issue and unable to even have a productive discussion. So infantile are those who buy into it, if you do not agree with their solution, they accuse you of being for the left

5) Then there is the wall worship and Donald Trump playing the part of Jesus. You're for fiscal responsibility and a free market? When you propose an idea, do you REALLY consider anything besides the start up costs? What about the maintenance costs? Better still, what about a policy's affect on Freedom and Liberty?

I'm sorry, but in reality since its inception the Tea Party has passed far more expensive laws than the Dems ever could have. The Tea Party would demand that Americans fund the Tea Party albatrosses - which the community organizer did and then they complain about how much debt we've taken on. AND, adding insult to injury, we've yet to have that conversation about lost liberties.

When your standard bearer is a man is for gun control: bans on so - called assault weapons, wants waiting periods, supports red flag laws, and the ban on bump stocks (unconstitutional on three grounds going beyond gun control); the same guy who nominated a POLICE STATE tyrant that is also anti gun and will abuse eminent domain statutes, I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

Everything is bass ackwards and upside down.

Donald Trump talks to Rupert Murdoch every week to discuss strategy

more like he was sent packing
Dick Armey resigns from Tea Party group

The point is the Tea Party has over-seen the largest, most expansive, and repressive laws ever passed in American history. Armey stayed on nearly a full decade after creating that flustercuck. Virtually all of it has benefited off the very people that conservatives were saying were the bad guys until just after 9 / 11. So, now, evil is good?

Adding insult to injury, the pretext used to justify building this massive sized government was, in reality, an attack on the free market system.

Explain to me what I'm missing.

your confusing tea party with conservative republicans who have always been big government progressives,,,most of them just dont realize it because they are greedy hypocrites

we true TPers were and are few and far between in the movement we belive and support the 3 core principles I posted earlier

 

[Porter Rockwell]

I was more than disappointed in the Tea Party "movement" than any American alive.

Having spent decade upon decade and tens of thousands of dollars on constitutionalist causes, I could never wrap my head around the Tea Party taking up the torch for the Council on Foreign Relations and their agenda. I wish someone could explain WTH happened????

I never heard that,,,

constitutional limited government
fiscal responsibility
free market

were the only things I knew about

there may be some republicans that pushed that, but no true tea partiers

Well, maybe this is what you need to know about the Tea Party:

1) One of the early supporters / members of the Tea Party was House Majority Leader, Dick Armey. Armey was the man who authored the globalist legislation that created the TRILLION DOLLAR plus monstrosity called the Department of Homeland (IN) Security. Nobody seems to be able to justify its creation:

'Homeland Security': The Trillion-Dollar Concept That No One Can Define

Armey would remain a Tea Party supporter for nearly a decade after creating that wasteful agency that drove us closer to a One World Government

2) It was Tea Party Republican, Rep. James Sensenbrenner, that introduced the so - called "Patriot Act." More Americans than foreigners have been victimized by this unconstitutional disaster that allows for warrant less search and seizures, pursuing people and denying them Due Process, and even killing people without probable cause. I can testify to its misuse and misapplication

3) Rep. James Sensenbrenner also introduced the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify. That was an Orwellian idea that was more like Hitler's tattoo idea on steroids. In the late 1990s the general public was against National ID by a margin of 87 to 13 percent with the conservatives leading the charge against it.

Also bear in mind that National ID was proposed in the midst of the Fair Tax gaining traction. While the Fair Tax may never have gotten enacted, it did bring pressure on the illegally ratified 16th Amendment (which is a plank out of the Communist Manifesto.) National ID gave Socialist Security a reprieve since your Socialist Surveillance Number ...oooops, "Social Security Number" became your de facto National ID "unique identifier" which gave a pretext for saving the 16th Amendment

4) If the Tea Party is all about a free market, it does not stand to reason that they adopted the solutions of the National Socialists on the immigration issue. Instead of promoting the Rule of Law and foregoing forced citizenship, the Tea Party fell for an agenda that the Democrats had tried to introduce some years ago. We have an opportunity to rethink the whole strategy, but the Tea Party is mesmerized by a program of insanity on this issue and unable to even have a productive discussion. So infantile are those who buy into it, if you do not agree with their solution, they accuse you of being for the left

5) Then there is the wall worship and Donald Trump playing the part of Jesus. You're for fiscal responsibility and a free market? When you propose an idea, do you REALLY consider anything besides the start up costs? What about the maintenance costs? Better still, what about a policy's affect on Freedom and Liberty?

I'm sorry, but in reality since its inception the Tea Party has passed far more expensive laws than the Dems ever could have. The Tea Party would demand that Americans fund the Tea Party albatrosses - which the community organizer did and then they complain about how much debt we've taken on. AND, adding insult to injury, we've yet to have that conversation about lost liberties.

When your standard bearer is a man is for gun control: bans on so - called assault weapons, wants waiting periods, supports red flag laws, and the ban on bump stocks (unconstitutional on three grounds going beyond gun control); the same guy who nominated a POLICE STATE tyrant that is also anti gun and will abuse eminent domain statutes, I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

Everything is bass ackwards and upside down.

Donald Trump talks to Rupert Murdoch every week to discuss strategy

more like he was sent packing
Dick Armey resigns from Tea Party group

The point is the Tea Party has over-seen the largest, most expansive, and repressive laws ever passed in American history. Armey stayed on nearly a full decade after creating that flustercuck. Virtually all of it has benefited off the very people that conservatives were saying were the bad guys until just after 9 / 11. So, now, evil is good?

Adding insult to injury, the pretext used to justify building this massive sized government was, in reality, an attack on the free market system.

Explain to me what I'm missing.

your confusing tea party with conservative republicans who have always been big government progressives,,,most of them just dont realize it because they are greedy hypocrites

we true TPers were and are few and far between in the movement we belive and support the 3 core principles I posted earlier

I'm sorry, but Dick Armey was a Tea Party Republican for a decade after all that money was spent on the creation of the Dept. of Homeland (IN) Security

U.S. Rep. James Sensenbrenner, who introduced both the so - called "Patriot Act" and the National ID / REAL ID Act has been a Tea Party Republican in the early to mid 2000s became the poster boy for the Tea Party in 2009. He's still cozy with the Tea Party at one level while playing both sides of the fence:

Jim Sensenbrenner for Congress Check out his Tea Party friends

Why won’t Wisconsin’s Republican Congressmen join the Tea Party Caucus?

He wouldn't make it official because of the political climate

"Along the way, the Menomonee Falls congressman helped build a coalition that crossed partisan and right-left lines, ranging from tea party conservatives to civil liberties Democrats."

After carefully building coalition, Sensenbrenner savors win


I want you to remember that Sensenbrenner is an attorney. So, having as much experience as he did, did he lie about his own legislation?

Jim Sensenbrenner's Horseshit Claims of Innocence | emptywheel

Admit It, Rep. Sensenbrenner: You Were Wrong About the Patriot Act - The Atlantic

He knew at the time; I knew and wasted a lot of time writing him about it; now YOU know. Today he touts his liberal record without a mention of anything related to the Tea Party - and especially the faux pas he made on the immigration issue.

Biography - Congressman Jim Sensenbrenner

Can you tell me of some effective political leaders, others than those mentioned, who made some significant difference like Sensenbrenner did? Do you notice that at every level of government, the Tea Party has ONE WORLDERS behind them?

All of those Tea Party politicians are slicker than a greased pig. They get to pass liberal legislation, then get thanked by the Tea Party for denouncing their own work.

 

[progressive hunter]

I never heard that,,,

constitutional limited government
fiscal responsibility
free market

were the only things I knew about

there may be some republicans that pushed that, but no true tea partiers

Well, maybe this is what you need to know about the Tea Party:

1) One of the early supporters / members of the Tea Party was House Majority Leader, Dick Armey. Armey was the man who authored the globalist legislation that created the TRILLION DOLLAR plus monstrosity called the Department of Homeland (IN) Security. Nobody seems to be able to justify its creation:

'Homeland Security': The Trillion-Dollar Concept That No One Can Define

Armey would remain a Tea Party supporter for nearly a decade after creating that wasteful agency that drove us closer to a One World Government

2) It was Tea Party Republican, Rep. James Sensenbrenner, that introduced the so - called "Patriot Act." More Americans than foreigners have been victimized by this unconstitutional disaster that allows for warrant less search and seizures, pursuing people and denying them Due Process, and even killing people without probable cause. I can testify to its misuse and misapplication

3) Rep. James Sensenbrenner also introduced the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify. That was an Orwellian idea that was more like Hitler's tattoo idea on steroids. In the late 1990s the general public was against National ID by a margin of 87 to 13 percent with the conservatives leading the charge against it.

Also bear in mind that National ID was proposed in the midst of the Fair Tax gaining traction. While the Fair Tax may never have gotten enacted, it did bring pressure on the illegally ratified 16th Amendment (which is a plank out of the Communist Manifesto.) National ID gave Socialist Security a reprieve since your Socialist Surveillance Number ...oooops, "Social Security Number" became your de facto National ID "unique identifier" which gave a pretext for saving the 16th Amendment

4) If the Tea Party is all about a free market, it does not stand to reason that they adopted the solutions of the National Socialists on the immigration issue. Instead of promoting the Rule of Law and foregoing forced citizenship, the Tea Party fell for an agenda that the Democrats had tried to introduce some years ago. We have an opportunity to rethink the whole strategy, but the Tea Party is mesmerized by a program of insanity on this issue and unable to even have a productive discussion. So infantile are those who buy into it, if you do not agree with their solution, they accuse you of being for the left

5) Then there is the wall worship and Donald Trump playing the part of Jesus. You're for fiscal responsibility and a free market? When you propose an idea, do you REALLY consider anything besides the start up costs? What about the maintenance costs? Better still, what about a policy's affect on Freedom and Liberty?

I'm sorry, but in reality since its inception the Tea Party has passed far more expensive laws than the Dems ever could have. The Tea Party would demand that Americans fund the Tea Party albatrosses - which the community organizer did and then they complain about how much debt we've taken on. AND, adding insult to injury, we've yet to have that conversation about lost liberties.

When your standard bearer is a man is for gun control: bans on so - called assault weapons, wants waiting periods, supports red flag laws, and the ban on bump stocks (unconstitutional on three grounds going beyond gun control); the same guy who nominated a POLICE STATE tyrant that is also anti gun and will abuse eminent domain statutes, I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

Everything is bass ackwards and upside down.

Donald Trump talks to Rupert Murdoch every week to discuss strategy

more like he was sent packing
Dick Armey resigns from Tea Party group

The point is the Tea Party has over-seen the largest, most expansive, and repressive laws ever passed in American history. Armey stayed on nearly a full decade after creating that flustercuck. Virtually all of it has benefited off the very people that conservatives were saying were the bad guys until just after 9 / 11. So, now, evil is good?

Adding insult to injury, the pretext used to justify building this massive sized government was, in reality, an attack on the free market system.

Explain to me what I'm missing.

your confusing tea party with conservative republicans who have always been big government progressives,,,most of them just dont realize it because they are greedy hypocrites

we true TPers were and are few and far between in the movement we belive and support the 3 core principles I posted earlier

I'm sorry, but Dick Armey was a Tea Party Republican for a decade after all that money was spent on the creation of the Dept. of Homeland (IN) Security

U.S. Rep. James Sensenbrenner, who introduced both the so - called "Patriot Act" and the National ID / REAL ID Act has been a Tea Party Republican in the early to mid 2000s became the poster boy for the Tea Party in 2009. He's still cozy with the Tea Party at one level while playing both sides of the fence:

Jim Sensenbrenner for Congress Check out his Tea Party friends

Why won’t Wisconsin’s Republican Congressmen join the Tea Party Caucus?

He wouldn't make it official because of the political climate

"Along the way, the Menomonee Falls congressman helped build a coalition that crossed partisan and right-left lines, ranging from tea party conservatives to civil liberties Democrats."

After carefully building coalition, Sensenbrenner savors win


I want you to remember that Sensenbrenner is an attorney. So, having as much experience as he did, did he lie about his own legislation?

Jim Sensenbrenner's Horseshit Claims of Innocence | emptywheel

Admit It, Rep. Sensenbrenner: You Were Wrong About the Patriot Act - The Atlantic

He knew at the time; I knew and wasted a lot of time writing him about it; now YOU know. Today he touts his liberal record without a mention of anything related to the Tea Party - and especially the faux pas he made on the immigration issue.

Biography - Congressman Jim Sensenbrenner

Can you tell me of some effective political leaders, others than those mentioned, who made some significant difference like Sensenbrenner did? Do you notice that at every level of government, the Tea Party has ONE WORLDERS behind them?

All of those Tea Party politicians are slicker than a greased pig. They get to pass liberal legislation, then get thanked by the Tea Party for denouncing their own work.

tea party didnt exist back then

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Well, maybe this is what you need to know about the Tea Party:

1) One of the early supporters / members of the Tea Party was House Majority Leader, Dick Armey. Armey was the man who authored the globalist legislation that created the TRILLION DOLLAR plus monstrosity called the Department of Homeland (IN) Security. Nobody seems to be able to justify its creation:

'Homeland Security': The Trillion-Dollar Concept That No One Can Define

Armey would remain a Tea Party supporter for nearly a decade after creating that wasteful agency that drove us closer to a One World Government

2) It was Tea Party Republican, Rep. James Sensenbrenner, that introduced the so - called "Patriot Act." More Americans than foreigners have been victimized by this unconstitutional disaster that allows for warrant less search and seizures, pursuing people and denying them Due Process, and even killing people without probable cause. I can testify to its misuse and misapplication

3) Rep. James Sensenbrenner also introduced the National ID / REAL ID Act - E Verify. That was an Orwellian idea that was more like Hitler's tattoo idea on steroids. In the late 1990s the general public was against National ID by a margin of 87 to 13 percent with the conservatives leading the charge against it.

Also bear in mind that National ID was proposed in the midst of the Fair Tax gaining traction. While the Fair Tax may never have gotten enacted, it did bring pressure on the illegally ratified 16th Amendment (which is a plank out of the Communist Manifesto.) National ID gave Socialist Security a reprieve since your Socialist Surveillance Number ...oooops, "Social Security Number" became your de facto National ID "unique identifier" which gave a pretext for saving the 16th Amendment

4) If the Tea Party is all about a free market, it does not stand to reason that they adopted the solutions of the National Socialists on the immigration issue. Instead of promoting the Rule of Law and foregoing forced citizenship, the Tea Party fell for an agenda that the Democrats had tried to introduce some years ago. We have an opportunity to rethink the whole strategy, but the Tea Party is mesmerized by a program of insanity on this issue and unable to even have a productive discussion. So infantile are those who buy into it, if you do not agree with their solution, they accuse you of being for the left

5) Then there is the wall worship and Donald Trump playing the part of Jesus. You're for fiscal responsibility and a free market? When you propose an idea, do you REALLY consider anything besides the start up costs? What about the maintenance costs? Better still, what about a policy's affect on Freedom and Liberty?

I'm sorry, but in reality since its inception the Tea Party has passed far more expensive laws than the Dems ever could have. The Tea Party would demand that Americans fund the Tea Party albatrosses - which the community organizer did and then they complain about how much debt we've taken on. AND, adding insult to injury, we've yet to have that conversation about lost liberties.

When your standard bearer is a man is for gun control: bans on so - called assault weapons, wants waiting periods, supports red flag laws, and the ban on bump stocks (unconstitutional on three grounds going beyond gun control); the same guy who nominated a POLICE STATE tyrant that is also anti gun and will abuse eminent domain statutes, I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

Everything is bass ackwards and upside down.

Donald Trump talks to Rupert Murdoch every week to discuss strategy

more like he was sent packing
Dick Armey resigns from Tea Party group

The point is the Tea Party has over-seen the largest, most expansive, and repressive laws ever passed in American history. Armey stayed on nearly a full decade after creating that flustercuck. Virtually all of it has benefited off the very people that conservatives were saying were the bad guys until just after 9 / 11. So, now, evil is good?

Adding insult to injury, the pretext used to justify building this massive sized government was, in reality, an attack on the free market system.

Explain to me what I'm missing.

your confusing tea party with conservative republicans who have always been big government progressives,,,most of them just dont realize it because they are greedy hypocrites

we true TPers were and are few and far between in the movement we belive and support the 3 core principles I posted earlier

I'm sorry, but Dick Armey was a Tea Party Republican for a decade after all that money was spent on the creation of the Dept. of Homeland (IN) Security

U.S. Rep. James Sensenbrenner, who introduced both the so - called "Patriot Act" and the National ID / REAL ID Act has been a Tea Party Republican in the early to mid 2000s became the poster boy for the Tea Party in 2009. He's still cozy with the Tea Party at one level while playing both sides of the fence:

Jim Sensenbrenner for Congress Check out his Tea Party friends

Why won’t Wisconsin’s Republican Congressmen join the Tea Party Caucus?

He wouldn't make it official because of the political climate

"Along the way, the Menomonee Falls congressman helped build a coalition that crossed partisan and right-left lines, ranging from tea party conservatives to civil liberties Democrats."

After carefully building coalition, Sensenbrenner savors win


I want you to remember that Sensenbrenner is an attorney. So, having as much experience as he did, did he lie about his own legislation?

Jim Sensenbrenner's Horseshit Claims of Innocence | emptywheel

Admit It, Rep. Sensenbrenner: You Were Wrong About the Patriot Act - The Atlantic

He knew at the time; I knew and wasted a lot of time writing him about it; now YOU know. Today he touts his liberal record without a mention of anything related to the Tea Party - and especially the faux pas he made on the immigration issue.

Biography - Congressman Jim Sensenbrenner

Can you tell me of some effective political leaders, others than those mentioned, who made some significant difference like Sensenbrenner did? Do you notice that at every level of government, the Tea Party has ONE WORLDERS behind them?

All of those Tea Party politicians are slicker than a greased pig. They get to pass liberal legislation, then get thanked by the Tea Party for denouncing their own work.

tea party didnt exist back then

What I'm driving at is that the Tea Party accepted the membership of people who are loyal to the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR.) The CFR, from my earliest years, was the arch nemesis of the conservatives. For example, Pat Robertson (the tv preacher) wrote a book called The New World Order wherein he exposed their agenda. My initiation into the world of conservative values began with Gary Allen's book None Dare Call it Conspiracy which had sold close to 5 million copies by the time I got introduced to conservatism (early to mid 1970s.)

The average candidate that the Tea Party relies on for support are those wholly committed to the NEW WORLD ORDER. I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but let's talk issues.

I get several e mails per day from Tea Party groups who obsess over the nutty wall idea. Do you guys even know who, in modern times, began that crackpot idea? Let me give you a clue. It was a Democrat running for president. The two leading contenders for the Republican nod denounced the idea. So, let me see:

* The claim is that you believe in smaller government, but the politicians that support the Tea Party have over-seen the largest increases in spending in American history

* You cannot advocate for the wall idea and then claim to be for free enterprise. The current view of the Tea Party people that contact me is that you build a wall around America, penalize employers for hiring foreign workers, and demand people only come through a mythical "legal" process and obey "our" (sic) immigration laws.

"Our" (sic) immigration laws are the product of liberals. Those laws are well over half a century old and do not anticipate the changes in how our country utilizes labor. Forcing people to become citizens in order to participate in the free market supports the free market... how again??? Penalizing employers for hiring foreign workers is a direct assault on the employer's property Rights. The Tea Party wants to fine employers thousands of dollars and face felony charges for hiring a guy that commits a civil misdemeanor with a maximum $250 fine. At what level does that make sense to you?

* The Tea Party, much like the RINOs and others envisions this government where we all carry a National ID Card and are subject to E Verify; a country where we no longer believe in the presumption of innocence; a country with 24 / 7 / 365 womb to the tomb surveillance and a place where Due Process is no longer in effect.

When are you guys going to wake up and make your way back home?

 

[progressive hunter]

more like he was sent packing
Dick Armey resigns from Tea Party group

The point is the Tea Party has over-seen the largest, most expansive, and repressive laws ever passed in American history. Armey stayed on nearly a full decade after creating that flustercuck. Virtually all of it has benefited off the very people that conservatives were saying were the bad guys until just after 9 / 11. So, now, evil is good?

Adding insult to injury, the pretext used to justify building this massive sized government was, in reality, an attack on the free market system.

Explain to me what I'm missing.

your confusing tea party with conservative republicans who have always been big government progressives,,,most of them just dont realize it because they are greedy hypocrites

we true TPers were and are few and far between in the movement we belive and support the 3 core principles I posted earlier

I'm sorry, but Dick Armey was a Tea Party Republican for a decade after all that money was spent on the creation of the Dept. of Homeland (IN) Security

U.S. Rep. James Sensenbrenner, who introduced both the so - called "Patriot Act" and the National ID / REAL ID Act has been a Tea Party Republican in the early to mid 2000s became the poster boy for the Tea Party in 2009. He's still cozy with the Tea Party at one level while playing both sides of the fence:

Jim Sensenbrenner for Congress Check out his Tea Party friends

Why won’t Wisconsin’s Republican Congressmen join the Tea Party Caucus?

He wouldn't make it official because of the political climate

"Along the way, the Menomonee Falls congressman helped build a coalition that crossed partisan and right-left lines, ranging from tea party conservatives to civil liberties Democrats."

After carefully building coalition, Sensenbrenner savors win


I want you to remember that Sensenbrenner is an attorney. So, having as much experience as he did, did he lie about his own legislation?

Jim Sensenbrenner's Horseshit Claims of Innocence | emptywheel

Admit It, Rep. Sensenbrenner: You Were Wrong About the Patriot Act - The Atlantic

He knew at the time; I knew and wasted a lot of time writing him about it; now YOU know. Today he touts his liberal record without a mention of anything related to the Tea Party - and especially the faux pas he made on the immigration issue.

Biography - Congressman Jim Sensenbrenner

Can you tell me of some effective political leaders, others than those mentioned, who made some significant difference like Sensenbrenner did? Do you notice that at every level of government, the Tea Party has ONE WORLDERS behind them?

All of those Tea Party politicians are slicker than a greased pig. They get to pass liberal legislation, then get thanked by the Tea Party for denouncing their own work.

tea party didnt exist back then

What I'm driving at is that the Tea Party accepted the membership of people who are loyal to the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR.) The CFR, from my earliest years, was the arch nemesis of the conservatives. For example, Pat Robertson (the tv preacher) wrote a book called The New World Order wherein he exposed their agenda. My initiation into the world of conservative values began with Gary Allen's book None Dare Call it Conspiracy which had sold close to 5 million copies by the time I got introduced to conservatism (early to mid 1970s.)

The average candidate that the Tea Party relies on for support are those wholly committed to the NEW WORLD ORDER. I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but let's talk issues.

I get several e mails per day from Tea Party groups who obsess over the nutty wall idea. Do you guys even know who, in modern times, began that crackpot idea? Let me give you a clue. It was a Democrat running for president. The two leading contenders for the Republican nod denounced the idea. So, let me see:

* The claim is that you believe in smaller government, but the politicians that support the Tea Party have over-seen the largest increases in spending in American history

* You cannot advocate for the wall idea and then claim to be for free enterprise. The current view of the Tea Party people that contact me is that you build a wall around America, penalize employers for hiring foreign workers, and demand people only come through a mythical "legal" process and obey "our" (sic) immigration laws.

"Our" (sic) immigration laws are the product of liberals. Those laws are well over half a century old and do not anticipate the changes in how our country utilizes labor. Forcing people to become citizens in order to participate in the free market supports the free market... how again??? Penalizing employers for hiring foreign workers is a direct assault on the employer's property Rights. The Tea Party wants to fine employers thousands of dollars and face felony charges for hiring a guy that commits a civil misdemeanor with a maximum $250 fine. At what level does that make sense to you?

* The Tea Party, much like the RINOs and others envisions this government where we all carry a National ID Card and are subject to E Verify; a country where we no longer believe in the presumption of innocence; a country with 24 / 7 / 365 womb to the tomb surveillance and a place where Due Process is no longer in effect.

When are you guys going to wake up and make your way back home?

no they didnt

 

[Porter Rockwell]

The point is the Tea Party has over-seen the largest, most expansive, and repressive laws ever passed in American history. Armey stayed on nearly a full decade after creating that flustercuck. Virtually all of it has benefited off the very people that conservatives were saying were the bad guys until just after 9 / 11. So, now, evil is good?

Adding insult to injury, the pretext used to justify building this massive sized government was, in reality, an attack on the free market system.

Explain to me what I'm missing.

your confusing tea party with conservative republicans who have always been big government progressives,,,most of them just dont realize it because they are greedy hypocrites

we true TPers were and are few and far between in the movement we belive and support the 3 core principles I posted earlier

I'm sorry, but Dick Armey was a Tea Party Republican for a decade after all that money was spent on the creation of the Dept. of Homeland (IN) Security

U.S. Rep. James Sensenbrenner, who introduced both the so - called "Patriot Act" and the National ID / REAL ID Act has been a Tea Party Republican in the early to mid 2000s became the poster boy for the Tea Party in 2009. He's still cozy with the Tea Party at one level while playing both sides of the fence:

Jim Sensenbrenner for Congress Check out his Tea Party friends

Why won’t Wisconsin’s Republican Congressmen join the Tea Party Caucus?

He wouldn't make it official because of the political climate

"Along the way, the Menomonee Falls congressman helped build a coalition that crossed partisan and right-left lines, ranging from tea party conservatives to civil liberties Democrats."

After carefully building coalition, Sensenbrenner savors win


I want you to remember that Sensenbrenner is an attorney. So, having as much experience as he did, did he lie about his own legislation?

Jim Sensenbrenner's Horseshit Claims of Innocence | emptywheel

Admit It, Rep. Sensenbrenner: You Were Wrong About the Patriot Act - The Atlantic

He knew at the time; I knew and wasted a lot of time writing him about it; now YOU know. Today he touts his liberal record without a mention of anything related to the Tea Party - and especially the faux pas he made on the immigration issue.

Biography - Congressman Jim Sensenbrenner

Can you tell me of some effective political leaders, others than those mentioned, who made some significant difference like Sensenbrenner did? Do you notice that at every level of government, the Tea Party has ONE WORLDERS behind them?

All of those Tea Party politicians are slicker than a greased pig. They get to pass liberal legislation, then get thanked by the Tea Party for denouncing their own work.

tea party didnt exist back then

What I'm driving at is that the Tea Party accepted the membership of people who are loyal to the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR.) The CFR, from my earliest years, was the arch nemesis of the conservatives. For example, Pat Robertson (the tv preacher) wrote a book called The New World Order wherein he exposed their agenda. My initiation into the world of conservative values began with Gary Allen's book None Dare Call it Conspiracy which had sold close to 5 million copies by the time I got introduced to conservatism (early to mid 1970s.)

The average candidate that the Tea Party relies on for support are those wholly committed to the NEW WORLD ORDER. I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but let's talk issues.

I get several e mails per day from Tea Party groups who obsess over the nutty wall idea. Do you guys even know who, in modern times, began that crackpot idea? Let me give you a clue. It was a Democrat running for president. The two leading contenders for the Republican nod denounced the idea. So, let me see:

* The claim is that you believe in smaller government, but the politicians that support the Tea Party have over-seen the largest increases in spending in American history

* You cannot advocate for the wall idea and then claim to be for free enterprise. The current view of the Tea Party people that contact me is that you build a wall around America, penalize employers for hiring foreign workers, and demand people only come through a mythical "legal" process and obey "our" (sic) immigration laws.

"Our" (sic) immigration laws are the product of liberals. Those laws are well over half a century old and do not anticipate the changes in how our country utilizes labor. Forcing people to become citizens in order to participate in the free market supports the free market... how again??? Penalizing employers for hiring foreign workers is a direct assault on the employer's property Rights. The Tea Party wants to fine employers thousands of dollars and face felony charges for hiring a guy that commits a civil misdemeanor with a maximum $250 fine. At what level does that make sense to you?

* The Tea Party, much like the RINOs and others envisions this government where we all carry a National ID Card and are subject to E Verify; a country where we no longer believe in the presumption of innocence; a country with 24 / 7 / 365 womb to the tomb surveillance and a place where Due Process is no longer in effect.

When are you guys going to wake up and make your way back home?

no they didnt

No they didn't what? If I know what you disagree with, maybe we can discuss it. Here to get your side.

 

[progressive hunter]

your confusing tea party with conservative republicans who have always been big government progressives,,,most of them just dont realize it because they are greedy hypocrites

we true TPers were and are few and far between in the movement we belive and support the 3 core principles I posted earlier

I'm sorry, but Dick Armey was a Tea Party Republican for a decade after all that money was spent on the creation of the Dept. of Homeland (IN) Security

U.S. Rep. James Sensenbrenner, who introduced both the so - called "Patriot Act" and the National ID / REAL ID Act has been a Tea Party Republican in the early to mid 2000s became the poster boy for the Tea Party in 2009. He's still cozy with the Tea Party at one level while playing both sides of the fence:

Jim Sensenbrenner for Congress Check out his Tea Party friends

Why won’t Wisconsin’s Republican Congressmen join the Tea Party Caucus?

He wouldn't make it official because of the political climate

"Along the way, the Menomonee Falls congressman helped build a coalition that crossed partisan and right-left lines, ranging from tea party conservatives to civil liberties Democrats."

After carefully building coalition, Sensenbrenner savors win


I want you to remember that Sensenbrenner is an attorney. So, having as much experience as he did, did he lie about his own legislation?

Jim Sensenbrenner's Horseshit Claims of Innocence | emptywheel

Admit It, Rep. Sensenbrenner: You Were Wrong About the Patriot Act - The Atlantic

He knew at the time; I knew and wasted a lot of time writing him about it; now YOU know. Today he touts his liberal record without a mention of anything related to the Tea Party - and especially the faux pas he made on the immigration issue.

Biography - Congressman Jim Sensenbrenner

Can you tell me of some effective political leaders, others than those mentioned, who made some significant difference like Sensenbrenner did? Do you notice that at every level of government, the Tea Party has ONE WORLDERS behind them?

All of those Tea Party politicians are slicker than a greased pig. They get to pass liberal legislation, then get thanked by the Tea Party for denouncing their own work.

tea party didnt exist back then

What I'm driving at is that the Tea Party accepted the membership of people who are loyal to the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR.) The CFR, from my earliest years, was the arch nemesis of the conservatives. For example, Pat Robertson (the tv preacher) wrote a book called The New World Order wherein he exposed their agenda. My initiation into the world of conservative values began with Gary Allen's book None Dare Call it Conspiracy which had sold close to 5 million copies by the time I got introduced to conservatism (early to mid 1970s.)

The average candidate that the Tea Party relies on for support are those wholly committed to the NEW WORLD ORDER. I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but let's talk issues.

I get several e mails per day from Tea Party groups who obsess over the nutty wall idea. Do you guys even know who, in modern times, began that crackpot idea? Let me give you a clue. It was a Democrat running for president. The two leading contenders for the Republican nod denounced the idea. So, let me see:

* The claim is that you believe in smaller government, but the politicians that support the Tea Party have over-seen the largest increases in spending in American history

* You cannot advocate for the wall idea and then claim to be for free enterprise. The current view of the Tea Party people that contact me is that you build a wall around America, penalize employers for hiring foreign workers, and demand people only come through a mythical "legal" process and obey "our" (sic) immigration laws.

"Our" (sic) immigration laws are the product of liberals. Those laws are well over half a century old and do not anticipate the changes in how our country utilizes labor. Forcing people to become citizens in order to participate in the free market supports the free market... how again??? Penalizing employers for hiring foreign workers is a direct assault on the employer's property Rights. The Tea Party wants to fine employers thousands of dollars and face felony charges for hiring a guy that commits a civil misdemeanor with a maximum $250 fine. At what level does that make sense to you?

* The Tea Party, much like the RINOs and others envisions this government where we all carry a National ID Card and are subject to E Verify; a country where we no longer believe in the presumption of innocence; a country with 24 / 7 / 365 womb to the tomb surveillance and a place where Due Process is no longer in effect.

When are you guys going to wake up and make your way back home?

no they didnt

No they didn't what? If I know what you disagree with, maybe we can discuss it. Here to get your side.

pretty much all of it

 

[Porter Rockwell]

I'm sorry, but Dick Armey was a Tea Party Republican for a decade after all that money was spent on the creation of the Dept. of Homeland (IN) Security

U.S. Rep. James Sensenbrenner, who introduced both the so - called "Patriot Act" and the National ID / REAL ID Act has been a Tea Party Republican in the early to mid 2000s became the poster boy for the Tea Party in 2009. He's still cozy with the Tea Party at one level while playing both sides of the fence:

Jim Sensenbrenner for Congress Check out his Tea Party friends

Why won’t Wisconsin’s Republican Congressmen join the Tea Party Caucus?

He wouldn't make it official because of the political climate

"Along the way, the Menomonee Falls congressman helped build a coalition that crossed partisan and right-left lines, ranging from tea party conservatives to civil liberties Democrats."

After carefully building coalition, Sensenbrenner savors win


I want you to remember that Sensenbrenner is an attorney. So, having as much experience as he did, did he lie about his own legislation?

Jim Sensenbrenner's Horseshit Claims of Innocence | emptywheel

Admit It, Rep. Sensenbrenner: You Were Wrong About the Patriot Act - The Atlantic

He knew at the time; I knew and wasted a lot of time writing him about it; now YOU know. Today he touts his liberal record without a mention of anything related to the Tea Party - and especially the faux pas he made on the immigration issue.

Biography - Congressman Jim Sensenbrenner

Can you tell me of some effective political leaders, others than those mentioned, who made some significant difference like Sensenbrenner did? Do you notice that at every level of government, the Tea Party has ONE WORLDERS behind them?

All of those Tea Party politicians are slicker than a greased pig. They get to pass liberal legislation, then get thanked by the Tea Party for denouncing their own work.

tea party didnt exist back then

What I'm driving at is that the Tea Party accepted the membership of people who are loyal to the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR.) The CFR, from my earliest years, was the arch nemesis of the conservatives. For example, Pat Robertson (the tv preacher) wrote a book called The New World Order wherein he exposed their agenda. My initiation into the world of conservative values began with Gary Allen's book None Dare Call it Conspiracy which had sold close to 5 million copies by the time I got introduced to conservatism (early to mid 1970s.)

The average candidate that the Tea Party relies on for support are those wholly committed to the NEW WORLD ORDER. I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but let's talk issues.

I get several e mails per day from Tea Party groups who obsess over the nutty wall idea. Do you guys even know who, in modern times, began that crackpot idea? Let me give you a clue. It was a Democrat running for president. The two leading contenders for the Republican nod denounced the idea. So, let me see:

* The claim is that you believe in smaller government, but the politicians that support the Tea Party have over-seen the largest increases in spending in American history

* You cannot advocate for the wall idea and then claim to be for free enterprise. The current view of the Tea Party people that contact me is that you build a wall around America, penalize employers for hiring foreign workers, and demand people only come through a mythical "legal" process and obey "our" (sic) immigration laws.

"Our" (sic) immigration laws are the product of liberals. Those laws are well over half a century old and do not anticipate the changes in how our country utilizes labor. Forcing people to become citizens in order to participate in the free market supports the free market... how again??? Penalizing employers for hiring foreign workers is a direct assault on the employer's property Rights. The Tea Party wants to fine employers thousands of dollars and face felony charges for hiring a guy that commits a civil misdemeanor with a maximum $250 fine. At what level does that make sense to you?

* The Tea Party, much like the RINOs and others envisions this government where we all carry a National ID Card and are subject to E Verify; a country where we no longer believe in the presumption of innocence; a country with 24 / 7 / 365 womb to the tomb surveillance and a place where Due Process is no longer in effect.

When are you guys going to wake up and make your way back home?

no they didnt

No they didn't what? If I know what you disagree with, maybe we can discuss it. Here to get your side.

pretty much all of it

According to one of my referenced links, the media acknowledges that liberals and Tea Party backed James Sensenbrenner. So, you are telling me it is not true?

Maybe we're talking about different groups. I get regular e mails from a Jenny Beth Martin - teapartypatriots.org and that group is backing the U.S. Congressman in my district, Jody Hice:

Tea Party Patriots | Tea Party Patriots Citizens Fund Supports Rep. Jody Hice and the House Freedom Caucus

Hice IS a supporter of the phony Republican known as Donald Trump. Ask him.

If you're saying that I could denounce the idiotic wall idea and all the peripheral issues surrounding it and be welcome in the Tea Party, I'd join it today. You can have border security without a silly wall and we don't need for people to become citizens in order to engage in free enterprise.

 

[progressive hunter]

tea party didnt exist back then

What I'm driving at is that the Tea Party accepted the membership of people who are loyal to the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR.) The CFR, from my earliest years, was the arch nemesis of the conservatives. For example, Pat Robertson (the tv preacher) wrote a book called The New World Order wherein he exposed their agenda. My initiation into the world of conservative values began with Gary Allen's book None Dare Call it Conspiracy which had sold close to 5 million copies by the time I got introduced to conservatism (early to mid 1970s.)

The average candidate that the Tea Party relies on for support are those wholly committed to the NEW WORLD ORDER. I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but let's talk issues.

I get several e mails per day from Tea Party groups who obsess over the nutty wall idea. Do you guys even know who, in modern times, began that crackpot idea? Let me give you a clue. It was a Democrat running for president. The two leading contenders for the Republican nod denounced the idea. So, let me see:

* The claim is that you believe in smaller government, but the politicians that support the Tea Party have over-seen the largest increases in spending in American history

* You cannot advocate for the wall idea and then claim to be for free enterprise. The current view of the Tea Party people that contact me is that you build a wall around America, penalize employers for hiring foreign workers, and demand people only come through a mythical "legal" process and obey "our" (sic) immigration laws.

"Our" (sic) immigration laws are the product of liberals. Those laws are well over half a century old and do not anticipate the changes in how our country utilizes labor. Forcing people to become citizens in order to participate in the free market supports the free market... how again??? Penalizing employers for hiring foreign workers is a direct assault on the employer's property Rights. The Tea Party wants to fine employers thousands of dollars and face felony charges for hiring a guy that commits a civil misdemeanor with a maximum $250 fine. At what level does that make sense to you?

* The Tea Party, much like the RINOs and others envisions this government where we all carry a National ID Card and are subject to E Verify; a country where we no longer believe in the presumption of innocence; a country with 24 / 7 / 365 womb to the tomb surveillance and a place where Due Process is no longer in effect.

When are you guys going to wake up and make your way back home?

no they didnt

No they didn't what? If I know what you disagree with, maybe we can discuss it. Here to get your side.

pretty much all of it

According to one of my referenced links, the media acknowledges that liberals and Tea Party backed James Sensenbrenner. So, you are telling me it is not true?

Maybe we're talking about different groups. I get regular e mails from a Jenny Beth Martin - teapartypatriots.org and that group is backing the U.S. Congressman in my district, Jody Hice:

Tea Party Patriots | Tea Party Patriots Citizens Fund Supports Rep. Jody Hice and the House Freedom Caucus

Hice IS a supporter of the phony Republican known as Donald Trump. Ask him.

If you're saying that I could denounce the idiotic wall idea and all the peripheral issues surrounding it and be welcome in the Tea Party, I'd join it today. You can have border security without a silly wall and we don't need for people to become citizens in order to engage in free enterprise.

jenny beths a fraud,,,

the TP is not a group but a movement so there is no roll call or member list, and as we see it was co opted by back stabbing lying republicans
so just because some endorsed liars does not mean we all did

 

[Porter Rockwell]

What I'm driving at is that the Tea Party accepted the membership of people who are loyal to the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR.) The CFR, from my earliest years, was the arch nemesis of the conservatives. For example, Pat Robertson (the tv preacher) wrote a book called The New World Order wherein he exposed their agenda. My initiation into the world of conservative values began with Gary Allen's book None Dare Call it Conspiracy which had sold close to 5 million copies by the time I got introduced to conservatism (early to mid 1970s.)

The average candidate that the Tea Party relies on for support are those wholly committed to the NEW WORLD ORDER. I'm not trying to hijack this thread, but let's talk issues.

I get several e mails per day from Tea Party groups who obsess over the nutty wall idea. Do you guys even know who, in modern times, began that crackpot idea? Let me give you a clue. It was a Democrat running for president. The two leading contenders for the Republican nod denounced the idea. So, let me see:

* The claim is that you believe in smaller government, but the politicians that support the Tea Party have over-seen the largest increases in spending in American history

* You cannot advocate for the wall idea and then claim to be for free enterprise. The current view of the Tea Party people that contact me is that you build a wall around America, penalize employers for hiring foreign workers, and demand people only come through a mythical "legal" process and obey "our" (sic) immigration laws.

"Our" (sic) immigration laws are the product of liberals. Those laws are well over half a century old and do not anticipate the changes in how our country utilizes labor. Forcing people to become citizens in order to participate in the free market supports the free market... how again??? Penalizing employers for hiring foreign workers is a direct assault on the employer's property Rights. The Tea Party wants to fine employers thousands of dollars and face felony charges for hiring a guy that commits a civil misdemeanor with a maximum $250 fine. At what level does that make sense to you?

* The Tea Party, much like the RINOs and others envisions this government where we all carry a National ID Card and are subject to E Verify; a country where we no longer believe in the presumption of innocence; a country with 24 / 7 / 365 womb to the tomb surveillance and a place where Due Process is no longer in effect.

When are you guys going to wake up and make your way back home?

no they didnt

No they didn't what? If I know what you disagree with, maybe we can discuss it. Here to get your side.

pretty much all of it

According to one of my referenced links, the media acknowledges that liberals and Tea Party backed James Sensenbrenner. So, you are telling me it is not true?

Maybe we're talking about different groups. I get regular e mails from a Jenny Beth Martin - teapartypatriots.org and that group is backing the U.S. Congressman in my district, Jody Hice:

Tea Party Patriots | Tea Party Patriots Citizens Fund Supports Rep. Jody Hice and the House Freedom Caucus

Hice IS a supporter of the phony Republican known as Donald Trump. Ask him.

If you're saying that I could denounce the idiotic wall idea and all the peripheral issues surrounding it and be welcome in the Tea Party, I'd join it today. You can have border security without a silly wall and we don't need for people to become citizens in order to engage in free enterprise.

jenny beths a fraud,,,

the TP is not a group but a movement so there is no roll call or member list, and as we see it was co opted by back stabbing lying republicans
so just because some endorsed liars does not mean we all did

I'm glad that you could clear that up. Wouldn't it be easier if you had an organization with one unified voice?

 

[progressive hunter]

no they didnt

No they didn't what? If I know what you disagree with, maybe we can discuss it. Here to get your side.

pretty much all of it

According to one of my referenced links, the media acknowledges that liberals and Tea Party backed James Sensenbrenner. So, you are telling me it is not true?

Maybe we're talking about different groups. I get regular e mails from a Jenny Beth Martin - teapartypatriots.org and that group is backing the U.S. Congressman in my district, Jody Hice:

Tea Party Patriots | Tea Party Patriots Citizens Fund Supports Rep. Jody Hice and the House Freedom Caucus

Hice IS a supporter of the phony Republican known as Donald Trump. Ask him.

If you're saying that I could denounce the idiotic wall idea and all the peripheral issues surrounding it and be welcome in the Tea Party, I'd join it today. You can have border security without a silly wall and we don't need for people to become citizens in order to engage in free enterprise.

jenny beths a fraud,,,

the TP is not a group but a movement so there is no roll call or member list, and as we see it was co opted by back stabbing lying republicans
so just because some endorsed liars does not mean we all did

I'm glad that you could clear that up. Wouldn't it be easier if you had an organization with one unified voice?

would be nice,,,just to many democrats and republicans to do that,,

they would all have to be killed first

and that unifying voice would be the constitution

 

[Porter Rockwell]

No they didn't what? If I know what you disagree with, maybe we can discuss it. Here to get your side.

pretty much all of it

According to one of my referenced links, the media acknowledges that liberals and Tea Party backed James Sensenbrenner. So, you are telling me it is not true?

Maybe we're talking about different groups. I get regular e mails from a Jenny Beth Martin - teapartypatriots.org and that group is backing the U.S. Congressman in my district, Jody Hice:

Tea Party Patriots | Tea Party Patriots Citizens Fund Supports Rep. Jody Hice and the House Freedom Caucus

Hice IS a supporter of the phony Republican known as Donald Trump. Ask him.

If you're saying that I could denounce the idiotic wall idea and all the peripheral issues surrounding it and be welcome in the Tea Party, I'd join it today. You can have border security without a silly wall and we don't need for people to become citizens in order to engage in free enterprise.

jenny beths a fraud,,,

the TP is not a group but a movement so there is no roll call or member list, and as we see it was co opted by back stabbing lying republicans
so just because some endorsed liars does not mean we all did

I'm glad that you could clear that up. Wouldn't it be easier if you had an organization with one unified voice?

would be nice,,,just to many democrats and republicans to do that,,

they would all have to be killed first

and that unifying voice would be the constitution

We say we want to be guided by the Constitution, but it's almost impossible to return back to that document without an internal war in the United States.