Is the Democratic Party Facing an Expiration Date?

[toobfreak]

Kilmar came to the US 14 years ago as a juvenile, has no gang affiliation,

Two courts have already determined his connection with MS-13.

committed no crimes,

Coming here illegally crossing the border is already a felony, Ace.

At least TRY not to make a complete ass of yourself. EVERY illegal alien here is a criminal. Then there is the matter of his assault on his wife and the time police caught him trying to smuggle a car full of illegals into the country.

is married to a US citizen, has 2 US citizen children in the US, and is a productive tax payer.

None of which means shit. In fact, I question how any church or country clerk's office approved the marriage to a guy who wasn't even a citizen.

There was no reason to deport him, and if he can be deported, anyone can be.

Obviously there was; who knows, maybe you will be next.

He is more native than European descendants are.

Thanks for the good laughs! I just wonder where you were during the FOUR FULL YEARS major human rights, civil rights, and due process were being denies real Americans right under your nose!

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

All it was put a native Democrat in office and kept Palin out. By fooling voters.

It keeps the rabid minority down.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Rank choice is not mentioned in the Constitution. For a good reason. Notice it can't be used in Federal Elections.

... because the Constitution regulates the mechanics of federal election only.

... Rank Choice can be used at the state and lower levels.

 

[AntonToo]

This raises the question of whether the Democratic Party should continue to exist. The hatred of Donald Trump is about the only discernible uniting cause still remaining

What is the uniting Republican cause? It's a principle free Trump cult for the most part.


But fundamentaly niether Republicans, nor Democrats, need to go extinct to simply CHANGE.

It's simple question of political supply and demand for the two American populist parties. If voters aren't buying what they are selling then they will simply sell something else.

 

[Robert W]

Rank Choice can be used at the state and lower levels.

True.... But here in Idaho we got rid of that beast.
"Action in state legislative sessions are proving that ranked-choice voting is as unpopular as ever.

After last year’s string of losses on state ballot measures, some progressive activists claimed they would fare better with lawmakers than they had with voters. Yet legislatures are not enacting ranked-choice this year — instead, they are banning the convoluted scheme."

The idea behind ranked-choice voting is to get voters to express “preferences” about multiple candidates, rather than just voting for one. This raises questions about one-person, one-vote, but that’s only the beginning of the problem. The system makes elections more difficult from start to finish, slowing the process and introducing new possibilities for errors and irregularities.

It starts with the ballot. In a normal election, a voter can vote once for each office. If there are six offices up for election, that means voting for six candidates — one for each office. With a ranked-choice ballot, however, if there are five candidates running for each of those offices, then a voter is supposed to “vote” 30 times, ranking all five candidates for each of the six offices.

This requires a longer, more complicated ballot with more instructions, more pages and more ways to make mistakes. The process takes longer, which means more ballots are left incomplete. Many voters simply don’t have an opinion about who is their third, fourth or fifth choice in many elections. Yet leaving rankings blank creates the possibility of a ballot being excluded from the final results.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5253950-ranked-choice-voting-unpopular-legislatures/

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Rank choice eliminates the violent minorities from ruling everyone.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

No, they're like herpes.

 

[Godboy]

And you'd be wrong.

You and Charles Lindberg are/were idiots.

In 1984, when Reagan won 49 states, there were Republicans riding such a natural high they were predicting the Democratic Party was dead.

They were just as wrong then as you are now, so put your hardon away, skippy, and wait for the mid-terms.

You are right, but you are also wrong. This isnt the same scenario at all. Democrats today are unrecognizable to what they were even just 20 years ago.

This is an undeniable fact... the democrat party as we know it will NOT continue. They WILL have to change a ton of the core principles that they have been jamming down everyone's throats for years. The woke shit, DEI, trans weirdo crap, etc, it all goes! Except thats an impossible sell to a massive chunk of the democrat party that are now brainwashed with that horseshit, and there will be an internal war over it. Until that war is resolved and sane democrats throw out the progressives, democrats are in deep shit, but they dont seem to be taking any steps towards ditching the weird crap in my opinion. Do YOU see them making any positive changes right now?

 

[Robert W]

Rank choice eliminates the violent minorities from ruling everyone.

You made that up.

 

[Robert W]

Rank choice eliminates the violent minorities from ruling everyone.

Counting ranked-choice ballots must be centralized and can only proceed after all ballots are returned and adjudicated. Initially, only first-preference votes are counted. If a candidate has a majority, he or she wins (and the whole ranked-choice process becomes irrelevant). If not, then the least popular candidate is eliminated, ballots with that candidate first are “adjusted” to move up the second preference to be counted as a first preference, and there is a new round of counting. Any of those ballots that have no second preference are eliminated.

This means that some ballots are counted for the same candidate in every round, while voters who prefer the least popular candidates may be counted for several different candidates as their choices are eliminated. If a voter’s preference is eliminated with no more rankings, then that voter’s ballot is considered “exhausted” and is not included in any further counting or in the final results.

No wonder voters last fall rejected ballot measures that would have enacted or encouraged ranked-choice voting.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You made that up.

It's a fact. It relegates the minority to the fringe where it can influence but never control like MAGA is doing to the majority in America.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Counting ranked-choice ballots must be centralized and can only proceed after all ballots are returned and adjudicated. Initially, only first-preference votes are counted. If a candidate has a majority, he or she wins (and the whole ranked-choice process becomes irrelevant). If not, then the least popular candidate is eliminated, ballots with that candidate first are “adjusted” to move up the second preference to be counted as a first preference, and there is a new round of counting. Any of those ballots that have no second preference are eliminated.

This means that some ballots are counted for the same candidate in every round, while voters who prefer the least popular candidates may be counted for several different candidates as their choices are eliminated. If a voter’s preference is eliminated with no more rankings, then that voter’s ballot is considered “exhausted” and is not included in any further counting or in the final results.

No wonder voters last fall rejected ballot measures that would have enacted or encouraged ranked-choice voting.

You don't understand how it works, but since you will resist any learning opportunity, I will leave it and you at that.

 

[Robert W]

You don't understand how it works, but since you will resist any learning opportunity, I will leave it and you at that.

48 states do not use ranked choice voting for state offices. You promote 2 states!!! Why fight an uphill battle?

 

[Robert W]

It's a fact. It relegates the minority to the fringe where it can influence but never control like MAGA is doing to the majority in America.

We had what amounts to ranked choice at the federal level by the fact Biden quit, and his underling failed to impress the public enough. She cackled off into the distance.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Not really, but keep showing, Bob, you don't understand.

 

[Robert W]

Not really, but keep showing, Bob, you don't understand.

You still never showed it working at all.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You still never showed it working at all.

 

[whutTHEYsay]

This raises the question of whether the Democratic Party should continue to exist.

2028 is blue. Just not all deep Blue

White Christian nationalists leave the Republican Party in droves drive a great Trump depression

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

Trump will wear out his welcome
He always does

He wore it out so much he got elected for another four years.

 

[LAUGHatLEFTISTS]

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2028 is blue. Just not all deep Blue

White Christian nationalists leave the Republican Party in droves drive a great Trump depression

Nawww. Nobody likes leftists. They don’t even like themselves.