Is the Democratic Party Facing an Expiration Date?

[sartre play]

The Dems have a lot of work to do, and I don't see much on the horizon. Sometimes people just pop up, so I guess that could happen.

On top of that, who knows what condition our electoral system will be like for the next couple of elections. Will red states refuse to certify their election losses? How accessible will voting be in specific areas? Will we see new elections when Dems win, such as in NC?

Neither party deserves too much power, and we're seeing why that is, right now. I keep saying that we need to fix our system, but it may be too late.

Correct, (Neither party deserves too much power)
We built our country on that truth.
to much power corrupts.

 

[Mac1958]

Correct, (Neither party deserves too much power)
We built our country on that truth.
to much power corrupts.

This smart guy agrees with you.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Rank choice results in this system. Say you have 10 runners running the same race. Rather than the winner getting the trophy, the fans vote on who they like. And as they see it, 7 gets the trophy. It makes no sense at all.

It kept Palin out of Congress, so it has that going for it.

 

[Robert W]

We need to open elections up to everyone and not just a 2 party system.
To avoid run offs, you just have voters rank all candidates.

Seldom do voters know the candidates. Even campaigning does not mean one knows any candidate. The cure is to create a way for each candidate to be far better known. Then the winner is more intelligently decided on. How can that be done? It is difficult but makes more sense than ranking those despite not knowing them. Rank your own children to see how hard it is.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Seldom do voters know the candidates. Even campaigning does not mean one knows any candidate. The cure is to create a way for each candidate to be far better known. Then the winner is more intelligently decided on. How can that be done? It is difficult but makes more sense than ranking those despite not knowing them. Rank your own children to see how hard it is.

My children are pretty darn fine.

They know I would tell them if they were not.

 

[Robert W]

It kept Palin out of Congress, so it has that going for it.

Democrats love that system and cite the defeat of a Republican to prove they love it.

 

[Robert W]

My children are pretty darn fine.

I expected you would not rank your children. Because that is a faulty system.

 

[citygator]

It seems that important political events often have a 100 year/four generation life cycle before their emotional impact ultimately dissipates. For example, resentful feelings about the Civil War finally gave way to the Civil Rights movement a century later. Similarly, the patriotic fervor about WW1 has now been replaced by a more sober analysis of what role, if any, the US should have played in it. (I expect that WW2 will start to be objectively analyzed in about 20 years.)

This cycle may also be repeating itself in regard to the formation of the modern Democratic Party during the Great Depression of the 1930s. The last generation of people who lived through that period are fading away, and the new generation are barely aware of it. As a result, the political coalition which believed that Big Government was its great protector is starting to fracture into divergent special interests.

This raises the question of whether the Democratic Party should continue to exist. The hatred of Donald Trump is about the only discernible uniting cause still remaining, and that has a looming expiration date. After that, what will be left that is worth resurrecting? I ask this in the context of current political chatter about what the Democrats need to do to regain lost voters. I find these discussions to be shallow and even presumptuous. Why try to restore a rusting hulk that no longer has a functional purpose?

Stupid. Donald Trump worship has turned the GOP from a party to a cult. They reversed a century of policies. Democrats remain on policy.

1. Foreign Policy: From Hawkish interventionism to Isolationist

2. Trade Policy: From Free Trade to Protectionism

3. Government Spending: From Fiscal Conservatism to Big Spending

4. Entitlements: From Personal Responsibility to

5. Immigration: From Pro-Business to Anti-business

6. Attitude Toward Corporations: From Pro-Business to Populist Criticism

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Democrats love that system and cite the defeat of a Republican to prove they love it.

It keeps the hard core minority on both sides from dominating they larger majority, and that I like.

 

[Robert W]

It keeps the hard core minority on both sides from dominating they larger majority, and that I like.

Why didn't the founders set that system up? Your reasoning in my eyes is wildly imaginative.

 

[Robert W]

It keeps the hard core minority on both sides from dominating they larger majority, and that I like.

Background​

Recent polling suggests that a majority of Americans on both sides of the aisle fear for the survival of the American democratic system.1 Finding solutions to strengthen trust in the election process is essential to protecting the Republic. Ranked-choice voting (RCV), also called “instant runoff voting,” is portrayed as a viable alternative to the status quo, but in reality, it is a disaster.

Funded by the progressive Left, RCV advocacy organizations claim that this massive overhaul can improve voter confidence by providing more candidate choices, decreasing negative campaigning, and ensuring majority rule.2-3 But these are false promises, and the proliferation of RCV would be harmful to American elections.

Fortunately, states have a simple solution to help restore trust in elections by prohibiting RCV statewide and preempting local governments from adopting it.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

With cradle to grave indoctrination into woke, the mindless proles are not going away any time soon.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Why didn't the founders set that system up? Your reasoning in my eyes is wildly imaginative.

Founders missed it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Why are dems on a political Kamikaze mission?

Men in women's sports

We <3 MS13

They love China, Ukraine and the EU and hate Russia, America and sanity; it's as if they are connected to Xi and helping his war on America

 

[Robert W]

Founders missed it.

For very good reasons.

Americans are forced to vote for others they do not want or it tilts the election even more when they refuse.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

For very good reasons.

Americans are forced to vote for others they do not want or it tilts the election even more when they refuse.

Does not matter. It is what it is, and it won't change unless the Constitution changes.

 

[jwoodie]

Rank choice results in this system. Say you have 10 runners running the same race. Rather than the winner getting the trophy, the fans vote on who they like. And as they see it, 7 gets the trophy. It makes no sense at all.

Rank choice is how RINOs get elected in Red States. During the last election in Alaska, the minority Dems all picked RINO Lisa Murkowski as their second choice, thus preventing the GOP's preferred candidate (Kelly Tshibaka) from being on the final ballot.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Rank Choice prevents a rabid minority from taking over.

It kept Murkowski in office and Palin out.

 

[Robert W]

Rank Choice prevents a rabid minority from taking over.

It kept Murkowski in office and Palin out.

All it was put a native Democrat in office and kept Palin out. By fooling voters.

 

[Robert W]

Does not matter. It is what it is, and it won't change unless the Constitution changes.

Rank choice is not mentioned in the Constitution. For a good reason. Notice it can't be used in Federal Elections.