The Supreme Court considers Trump's Tariffs

[Zincwarrior]

Supreme Court justices appear skeptical that Trump tariffs are legal​

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/05/supreme-court-trump-trade-tarrifs-vos.html

It's not shaping up to be a good day for Dotard.

Careful. What happens in argument, and what the actual ruling is are not necessarily the same. If I had to bet, I would side that SCOTUS sides with Trump...on everything always.

 

[Mac1958]

Careful. What happens in argument, and what the actual ruling is are not necessarily the same. If I had to bet, I would side that SCOTUS sides with Trump...on everything always.

Yeah, I hope to be proven wrong, but that's still my guess.

 

[berg80]

So what will fix it? What will fix the chronic unfair, unequal trade deals we had with just about every nation we trade with?

Putting aside that factually inaccurate narrative, tariff policy is not trump's to make. Full stop.

Supreme Court justices on Wednesday morning expressed skepticism about the legality of aggressive tariffs imposed by President Donald Trump against most of the world’s nations.

Conservative and liberal justices sharply questioned Solicitor General D. John Sauer on the Trump administration’s legal justification of the tariffs, which critics say infringes on the power of Congress to tax.

Lower federal courts have ruled that Trump lacked the legal authority he cited under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act to impose the so-called reciprocal tariffs on imports from many U.S. trading partners, and fentanyl tariffs on products from Canada, China and Mexico.

 

[The Irish Ram]

Thanks to Trump, 63 countries have lowered their tariffs on our goods. Why is that a bad thing?

 

[Mac-7]

If not Trump and the Executive Branch setting tariffs then who?

The Supreme Court cant do it and neither can Congress

I know libs are going say Congress sets tariffs and in one sense they do

But since the 1930s much authority has been delegated to the president

 

[citygator]

This will be very interesting. Trump's wild, fluid, constantly changing, often punitive & random, impossible-for-businesses-to-plan-for tariffs -- which have played such a significant role in ruining longstanding global relationships -- are very important to him. He is just assuming that he can take the power to issue tariffs from Congress, and he is fully expecting "his" Supreme Court to let him.

This is a big deal. Will the Supreme Court fold for him? And if not, how does he react?

Live updates: Supreme Court is hearing arguments on Trump’s tariffs

We just talked about it in our staff meeting. Best case scenario is a full refund for the illegal tax - we've had lawyers offer to buy our claim. Worse case is the Supreme Court gives him cart blanche to raise taxes on corporations at will under the guise of fake "emergencies".

Our lawyers think it is highly illegal but that the SCOTUS will weasel out of giving company's their money back due to the difficulty and strike something in between. HOWEVER Trump looks weak now after the election and everyone knows he is now 1 year away from having no real power once the house flips.

 

[berg80]

Thanks to Trump, 63 countries have lowered their tariffs on our goods. Why is that a bad thing?

Cuz due to Dotard's tariff policy US consumers are paying higher prices for imported goods. Not to mention that Dotard's erratic, unpredictable policy changes have caused trading partners to establish ties with countries with more stable leaders.

 

[Mac-7]

Yeah, I hope to be proven wrong, but that's still my guess.

My (mac1958) Politics: I'm not ideological. I'm ANTI-ideology. The best and longest-lasting answers come from communication, collaboration, & innovation from elected leaders, like our CONSTITUTION. They don't come from the tribes taking turns shoving their ideologies down

Mac1958 is just a feather floating in the wind

 

[Mac1958]

We just talked about it in our staff meeting. Best case scenario is a full refund for the illegal tax - we've had lawyers offer to buy our claim. Worse case is the Supreme Court gives him cart blanche to raise taxes on corporations at will under the guise of fake "emergencies".

Our lawyers think it is highly illegal but that the SCOTUS will weasel out of giving company's their money back due to the difficulty and strike something in between. HOWEVER Trump looks weak now after the election and everyone knows he is now 1 year away from having no real power once the house flips.

Man, that would be one ******* monstrous mess. But these companies have had to cut corners in the other areas (hiring, capex) to do this.

I think you're right, though. Trump didn't pay his vendors when he was "in business", so he'd look for a way out of it.

 

[pknopp]

We just talked about it in our staff meeting. Best case scenario is a full refund for the illegal tax - we've had lawyers offer to buy our claim. Worse case is the Supreme Court gives him cart blanche to raise taxes on corporations at will under the guise of fake "emergencies".

Our lawyers think it is highly illegal but that the SCOTUS will weasel out of giving company's their money back due to the difficulty and strike something in between. HOWEVER Trump looks weak now after the election and everyone knows he is now 1 year away from having no real power once the house flips.

Most likely the court does as it often cowardly does and makes it a very limited ruling.

 

[citygator]

I know libs are going say Congress sets tariffs and in one sense they do

But since the 1930s much authority has been delegated to the president

Is there another example of executive levying taxes though?

 

[WEATHER53]

Answer this easy question for me. What is wrong with charging countries the same as they charge us?

It benefits America and they don’t wish for that

 

[WEATHER53]

If not Trump and the Executive Branch setting tariffs then who?

The Supreme Court cant do it and neither can Congress

Why does USSC even get involved with what the USA charges other countries ??
Answer; Because Dems don’t want Trump to produce benefits for the USA

 

[berg80]

Answer this easy question for me. What is wrong with charging countries the same as they charge us?

Is that what you think Dotard is doing? We had a trade surplus with Brazil until the orange idiot put on 50% tariffs because he didn't like the way the country was treating fellow insurrectionist Bolsonaro.

He bumped up tariffs on Canada because an ad campaign by them embarrassed him.

 

[citygator]

Why does USSC even get involved with what the USA charges other coubtries??
Answer; Because Dems don’t want Trump to produce benefits for the USA

Say you dont know how business works without saying you know how business works.

Trump didnt lower anything. He raised them. If Trump got countries to lower their tariff without raising ours that would be good. Raising ours hurts... us... it hurts the US. Tariffs generate loss economic value.

 

[Mac1958]

Say you dont know how business works without saying you know how business works.

Trump didnt lower anything. He raised them. If Trump got countries to lower their tariff without raising ours that would be good. Raising ours hurts... us... it hurts the US. Tariffs generate loss economic value.

They don't even know how tariffs work. They don't know who sets them or how.

And they still attack.

Jesus. Dunning-Kruger is alive and well.

 

[WEATHER53]

Thanks to Trump, 63 countries have lowered their tariffs on our goods. Why is that a bad thing?

Helps the USA

 

[Mac1958]

Just said by attorney: "This President has torn up the entire tariff infrastructure". Nicely put, Neal Katyal.

 

[berg80]

I know libs are going say Congress sets tariffs and in one sense they do

But since the 1930s much authority has been delegated to the president

Justice Neil Gorsuch, one of six conservatives on the court, pressed Sauer on the fact that Trump had unilaterally imposed the tariffs, citing an international emergency, without Congress authorizing them.

“What happens when the president simply vetoes legislation to take these powers back?” Gorsuch asked.

“So Congress as a practical matter can’t get this power back?”

 

[WEATHER53]

We just talked about it in our staff meeting. Best case scenario is a full refund for the illegal tax - we've had lawyers offer to buy our claim. Worse case is the Supreme Court gives him cart blanche to raise taxes on corporations at will under the guise of fake "emergencies".

Our lawyers think it is highly illegal but that the SCOTUS will weasel out of giving company's their money back due to the difficulty and strike something in between. HOWEVER Trump looks weak now after the election and everyone knows he is now 1 year away from having no real power once the house flips.

“Your lawyers”
So funny the make pretend