The Spanish Inquisition: Debunking the Legends

[Picaro]

The Spanish Inquisition: Debunking the Legends

A quick summary:

Quick Summary

Modern historical research has uncovered facts that dismantle many of these centuries-old falsehoods. Here are some quick corrections concerning popular misunderstandings:

• The Inquisition was originally welcomed to bring order to Europe because states saw an attack on the state’s faith as an attack on the state as well.
• The Inquisition technically had jurisdiction only over those professing to be Christians.
• The courts of the Inquisition were extremely fair compared to their secular counterparts at the time.
• The Inquisition was responsible for less than 100 witch-hunt deaths, and was the first judicial body to denounce the trials in Europe.
• Though torture was commonly used in all the courts of Europe at the time, the Inquisition used torture very infrequently.
• During the 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition, between 3,000-5,000 people were sentenced to death (about 1 per month).
• The Church executed no one.

Links of note in this paragraph on the page:

In recent years, however, the Vatican opened up its secret archives for historical investigation. Inquisition records that were made by and for the Inquisition were allowed to be researched for the first time in history. Since then, the above facts have been generally discoverable in modern history books (whether Catholic or not). Corrected Inquisition history can be found in sources such as Inquisition by Edward Peters and The Spanish Inquisition: An Historical Revision by Henry Kamen. Comparative secular documentaries include The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition (BBC) and the more sensationalistic The Spanish Inquisition (History Channel).

Even some 'Pagan' followers are in agreement with most of this, and admit witch burning is/was a pagan practice. Paganism was still a major force in medieval Europe, among the peasants and lower aristocracy

.Common Misconceptions: Chronology

Current scholarly estimates of the death toll in The Summerlands

Hear The Voice Paganism Australia: The Myth of the "BURNING TIMES"

Remember that the Witches that people hated and feared during the "Burning Times" are not Witches as we think of them today. Nor were they Pagans. People feared witchcraft because it was thought that those who practiced it could cause death and disease of people livestock and crops. For people who didn't have the scientific background we have today it was easy to blame witchraft for the unexplained. Think of the Black Death that killed nearly 1/3 of the population of Europe. If you didn't understand the idea of germs and disease transmission a frightened person would easily ascribe it to witchcraft. And if no way to stop the disease were known other than killing the witch before s/he killed you and your village think how easy it would be to do what you had to do in your fear to survive.

 

[irosie91]

ok so what was "DEBUNKED?"

 

[OldLady]

The Spanish Inquisition: Debunking the Legends

A quick summary:

Quick Summary

Modern historical research has uncovered facts that dismantle many of these centuries-old falsehoods. Here are some quick corrections concerning popular misunderstandings:

• 
  
  
  • The Inquisition was originally welcomed to bring order to Europe because states saw an attack on the state’s faith as an attack on the state as well.
  • The Inquisition technically had jurisdiction only over those professing to be Christians.
  • The courts of the Inquisition were extremely fair compared to their secular counterparts at the time.
  • The Inquisition was responsible for less than 100 witch-hunt deaths, and was the first judicial body to denounce the trials in Europe.
  • Though torture was commonly used in all the courts of Europe at the time, the Inquisition used torture very infrequently.
  • During the 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition, between 3,000-5,000 people were sentenced to death (about 1 per month).
  • The Church executed no one.

Links of note in this paragraph on the page:

In recent years, however, the Vatican opened up its secret archives for historical investigation. Inquisition records that were made by and for the Inquisition were allowed to be researched for the first time in history. Since then, the above facts have been generally discoverable in modern history books (whether Catholic or not). Corrected Inquisition history can be found in sources such as Inquisition by Edward Peters and The Spanish Inquisition: An Historical Revision by Henry Kamen. Comparative secular documentaries include The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition (BBC) and the more sensationalistic The Spanish Inquisition (History Channel).

Even some 'Pagan' followers are in agreement with most of this, and admit witch burning is/was a pagan practice. Paganism was still a major force in medieval Europe, among the peasants and lower aristocracy

.Common Misconceptions: Chronology

Current scholarly estimates of the death toll in The Summerlands

Hear The Voice Paganism Australia: The Myth of the "BURNING TIMES"

Remember that the Witches that people hated and feared during the "Burning Times" are not Witches as we think of them today. Nor were they Pagans. People feared witchcraft because it was thought that those who practiced it could cause death and disease of people livestock and crops. For people who didn't have the scientific background we have today it was easy to blame witchraft for the unexplained. Think of the Black Death that killed nearly 1/3 of the population of Europe. If you didn't understand the idea of germs and disease transmission a frightened person would easily ascribe it to witchcraft. And if no way to stop the disease were known other than killing the witch before s/he killed you and your village think how easy it would be to do what you had to do in your fear to survive.

Wasn't it during the Inquisition that Spain forced the Jews to convert or die, causing a major diaspora? That had nothing to do with the Church?

 

[Two Thumbs]

 

[Picaro]

The Spanish Inquisition: Debunking the Legends

A quick summary:

Quick Summary

Modern historical research has uncovered facts that dismantle many of these centuries-old falsehoods. Here are some quick corrections concerning popular misunderstandings:

• 
  
  
  • The Inquisition was originally welcomed to bring order to Europe because states saw an attack on the state’s faith as an attack on the state as well.
  • The Inquisition technically had jurisdiction only over those professing to be Christians.
  • The courts of the Inquisition were extremely fair compared to their secular counterparts at the time.
  • The Inquisition was responsible for less than 100 witch-hunt deaths, and was the first judicial body to denounce the trials in Europe.
  • Though torture was commonly used in all the courts of Europe at the time, the Inquisition used torture very infrequently.
  • During the 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition, between 3,000-5,000 people were sentenced to death (about 1 per month).
  • The Church executed no one.

Links of note in this paragraph on the page:

In recent years, however, the Vatican opened up its secret archives for historical investigation. Inquisition records that were made by and for the Inquisition were allowed to be researched for the first time in history. Since then, the above facts have been generally discoverable in modern history books (whether Catholic or not). Corrected Inquisition history can be found in sources such as Inquisition by Edward Peters and The Spanish Inquisition: An Historical Revision by Henry Kamen. Comparative secular documentaries include The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition (BBC) and the more sensationalistic The Spanish Inquisition (History Channel).

Even some 'Pagan' followers are in agreement with most of this, and admit witch burning is/was a pagan practice. Paganism was still a major force in medieval Europe, among the peasants and lower aristocracy

.Common Misconceptions: Chronology

Current scholarly estimates of the death toll in The Summerlands

Hear The Voice Paganism Australia: The Myth of the "BURNING TIMES"

Remember that the Witches that people hated and feared during the "Burning Times" are not Witches as we think of them today. Nor were they Pagans. People feared witchcraft because it was thought that those who practiced it could cause death and disease of people livestock and crops. For people who didn't have the scientific background we have today it was easy to blame witchraft for the unexplained. Think of the Black Death that killed nearly 1/3 of the population of Europe. If you didn't understand the idea of germs and disease transmission a frightened person would easily ascribe it to witchcraft. And if no way to stop the disease were known other than killing the witch before s/he killed you and your village think how easy it would be to do what you had to do in your fear to survive.

Wasn't it during the Inquisition that Spain forced the Jews to convert or die, causing a major diaspora? That had nothing to do with the Church?

No. Read the pages linked to before commenting. that's why the links are there, after all ....

And, most of the Jews were allied with the Muslim invaders, and weren't distinguishable from them as part of the invasions.

 

[Picaro]

That vid is in the first page linked to. lol

 

[irosie91]

The Spanish Inquisition: Debunking the Legends

A quick summary:

Quick Summary

Modern historical research has uncovered facts that dismantle many of these centuries-old falsehoods. Here are some quick corrections concerning popular misunderstandings:

• 
  
  
  • The Inquisition was originally welcomed to bring order to Europe because states saw an attack on the state’s faith as an attack on the state as well.
  • The Inquisition technically had jurisdiction only over those professing to be Christians.
  • The courts of the Inquisition were extremely fair compared to their secular counterparts at the time.
  • The Inquisition was responsible for less than 100 witch-hunt deaths, and was the first judicial body to denounce the trials in Europe.
  • Though torture was commonly used in all the courts of Europe at the time, the Inquisition used torture very infrequently.
  • During the 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition, between 3,000-5,000 people were sentenced to death (about 1 per month).
  • The Church executed no one.

Links of note in this paragraph on the page:

In recent years, however, the Vatican opened up its secret archives for historical investigation. Inquisition records that were made by and for the Inquisition were allowed to be researched for the first time in history. Since then, the above facts have been generally discoverable in modern history books (whether Catholic or not). Corrected Inquisition history can be found in sources such as Inquisition by Edward Peters and The Spanish Inquisition: An Historical Revision by Henry Kamen. Comparative secular documentaries include The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition (BBC) and the more sensationalistic The Spanish Inquisition (History Channel).

Even some 'Pagan' followers are in agreement with most of this, and admit witch burning is/was a pagan practice. Paganism was still a major force in medieval Europe, among the peasants and lower aristocracy

.Common Misconceptions: Chronology

Current scholarly estimates of the death toll in The Summerlands

Hear The Voice Paganism Australia: The Myth of the "BURNING TIMES"

Remember that the Witches that people hated and feared during the "Burning Times" are not Witches as we think of them today. Nor were they Pagans. People feared witchcraft because it was thought that those who practiced it could cause death and disease of people livestock and crops. For people who didn't have the scientific background we have today it was easy to blame witchraft for the unexplained. Think of the Black Death that killed nearly 1/3 of the population of Europe. If you didn't understand the idea of germs and disease transmission a frightened person would easily ascribe it to witchcraft. And if no way to stop the disease were known other than killing the witch before s/he killed you and your village think how easy it would be to do what you had to do in your fear to survive.

Wasn't it during the Inquisition that Spain forced the Jews to convert or die, causing a major diaspora? That had nothing to do with the Church?

yes----the Spanish inquisition had a big effect on jews . Jews had fled lots of northern African lands to get away from the "holy" roman empire----to the IBERIAN PENNINSULA-----then
Christianity happened. I have relatives thru marriage that still speak SPANISH------left over from 500 years ago when they were thrown out of Spain------there is a whole literature and music-----which is 'LADINO" ----a kind of mixture of Spanish and Hebrew-------it was quite an extensive and developed culture over there------and it still exists. The stuff is written in Hebrew characters but it is actually standard Castillian spanish

 

[irosie91]

The Spanish Inquisition: Debunking the Legends

A quick summary:

Quick Summary

Modern historical research has uncovered facts that dismantle many of these centuries-old falsehoods. Here are some quick corrections concerning popular misunderstandings:

• 
  
  
  • The Inquisition was originally welcomed to bring order to Europe because states saw an attack on the state’s faith as an attack on the state as well.
  • The Inquisition technically had jurisdiction only over those professing to be Christians.
  • The courts of the Inquisition were extremely fair compared to their secular counterparts at the time.
  • The Inquisition was responsible for less than 100 witch-hunt deaths, and was the first judicial body to denounce the trials in Europe.
  • Though torture was commonly used in all the courts of Europe at the time, the Inquisition used torture very infrequently.
  • During the 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition, between 3,000-5,000 people were sentenced to death (about 1 per month).
  • The Church executed no one.

Links of note in this paragraph on the page:

In recent years, however, the Vatican opened up its secret archives for historical investigation. Inquisition records that were made by and for the Inquisition were allowed to be researched for the first time in history. Since then, the above facts have been generally discoverable in modern history books (whether Catholic or not). Corrected Inquisition history can be found in sources such as Inquisition by Edward Peters and The Spanish Inquisition: An Historical Revision by Henry Kamen. Comparative secular documentaries include The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition (BBC) and the more sensationalistic The Spanish Inquisition (History Channel).

Even some 'Pagan' followers are in agreement with most of this, and admit witch burning is/was a pagan practice. Paganism was still a major force in medieval Europe, among the peasants and lower aristocracy

.Common Misconceptions: Chronology

Current scholarly estimates of the death toll in The Summerlands

Hear The Voice Paganism Australia: The Myth of the "BURNING TIMES"

Remember that the Witches that people hated and feared during the "Burning Times" are not Witches as we think of them today. Nor were they Pagans. People feared witchcraft because it was thought that those who practiced it could cause death and disease of people livestock and crops. For people who didn't have the scientific background we have today it was easy to blame witchraft for the unexplained. Think of the Black Death that killed nearly 1/3 of the population of Europe. If you didn't understand the idea of germs and disease transmission a frightened person would easily ascribe it to witchcraft. And if no way to stop the disease were known other than killing the witch before s/he killed you and your village think how easy it would be to do what you had to do in your fear to survive.

Wasn't it during the Inquisition that Spain forced the Jews to convert or die, causing a major diaspora? That had nothing to do with the Church?

No. Read the pages linked to before commenting. that's why the links are there, after all ....

And, most of the Jews were allied with the Muslim invaders, and weren't distinguishable from them as part of the invasions.

nope ---jews were there before muslims showed up------but in some cases allied with muslims because they were oppressed by Christians-------the whole endeavor just DID NOT WORK OUT

 

[Moonglow]

The Spanish Inquisition: Debunking the Legends

A quick summary:

Quick Summary

Modern historical research has uncovered facts that dismantle many of these centuries-old falsehoods. Here are some quick corrections concerning popular misunderstandings:

• 
  
  
  • The Inquisition was originally welcomed to bring order to Europe because states saw an attack on the state’s faith as an attack on the state as well.
  • The Inquisition technically had jurisdiction only over those professing to be Christians.
  • The courts of the Inquisition were extremely fair compared to their secular counterparts at the time.
  • The Inquisition was responsible for less than 100 witch-hunt deaths, and was the first judicial body to denounce the trials in Europe.
  • Though torture was commonly used in all the courts of Europe at the time, the Inquisition used torture very infrequently.
  • During the 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition, between 3,000-5,000 people were sentenced to death (about 1 per month).
  • The Church executed no one.

Links of note in this paragraph on the page:

In recent years, however, the Vatican opened up its secret archives for historical investigation. Inquisition records that were made by and for the Inquisition were allowed to be researched for the first time in history. Since then, the above facts have been generally discoverable in modern history books (whether Catholic or not). Corrected Inquisition history can be found in sources such as Inquisition by Edward Peters and The Spanish Inquisition: An Historical Revision by Henry Kamen. Comparative secular documentaries include The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition (BBC) and the more sensationalistic The Spanish Inquisition (History Channel).

Even some 'Pagan' followers are in agreement with most of this, and admit witch burning is/was a pagan practice. Paganism was still a major force in medieval Europe, among the peasants and lower aristocracy

.Common Misconceptions: Chronology

Current scholarly estimates of the death toll in The Summerlands

Hear The Voice Paganism Australia: The Myth of the "BURNING TIMES"

Remember that the Witches that people hated and feared during the "Burning Times" are not Witches as we think of them today. Nor were they Pagans. People feared witchcraft because it was thought that those who practiced it could cause death and disease of people livestock and crops. For people who didn't have the scientific background we have today it was easy to blame witchraft for the unexplained. Think of the Black Death that killed nearly 1/3 of the population of Europe. If you didn't understand the idea of germs and disease transmission a frightened person would easily ascribe it to witchcraft. And if no way to stop the disease were known other than killing the witch before s/he killed you and your village think how easy it would be to do what you had to do in your fear to survive.

Wasn't it during the Inquisition that Spain forced the Jews to convert or die, causing a major diaspora? That had nothing to do with the Church?

No. Read the pages linked to before commenting. that's why the links are there, after all ....

And, most of the Jews were allied with the Muslim invaders, and weren't distinguishable from them as part of the invasions.

nope ---jews were there before muslims showed up------but in some cases allied with muslims because they were oppressed by Christians-------the whole endeavor just DID NOT WORK OUT

Don't you have a court ordered auto de fe to complete?

 

[irosie91]

The Spanish Inquisition: Debunking the Legends

A quick summary:

Quick Summary

Modern historical research has uncovered facts that dismantle many of these centuries-old falsehoods. Here are some quick corrections concerning popular misunderstandings:

• 
  
  
  • The Inquisition was originally welcomed to bring order to Europe because states saw an attack on the state’s faith as an attack on the state as well.
  • The Inquisition technically had jurisdiction only over those professing to be Christians.
  • The courts of the Inquisition were extremely fair compared to their secular counterparts at the time.
  • The Inquisition was responsible for less than 100 witch-hunt deaths, and was the first judicial body to denounce the trials in Europe.
  • Though torture was commonly used in all the courts of Europe at the time, the Inquisition used torture very infrequently.
  • During the 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition, between 3,000-5,000 people were sentenced to death (about 1 per month).
  • The Church executed no one.

Links of note in this paragraph on the page:

In recent years, however, the Vatican opened up its secret archives for historical investigation. Inquisition records that were made by and for the Inquisition were allowed to be researched for the first time in history. Since then, the above facts have been generally discoverable in modern history books (whether Catholic or not). Corrected Inquisition history can be found in sources such as Inquisition by Edward Peters and The Spanish Inquisition: An Historical Revision by Henry Kamen. Comparative secular documentaries include The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition (BBC) and the more sensationalistic The Spanish Inquisition (History Channel).

Even some 'Pagan' followers are in agreement with most of this, and admit witch burning is/was a pagan practice. Paganism was still a major force in medieval Europe, among the peasants and lower aristocracy

.Common Misconceptions: Chronology

Current scholarly estimates of the death toll in The Summerlands

Hear The Voice Paganism Australia: The Myth of the "BURNING TIMES"

Remember that the Witches that people hated and feared during the "Burning Times" are not Witches as we think of them today. Nor were they Pagans. People feared witchcraft because it was thought that those who practiced it could cause death and disease of people livestock and crops. For people who didn't have the scientific background we have today it was easy to blame witchraft for the unexplained. Think of the Black Death that killed nearly 1/3 of the population of Europe. If you didn't understand the idea of germs and disease transmission a frightened person would easily ascribe it to witchcraft. And if no way to stop the disease were known other than killing the witch before s/he killed you and your village think how easy it would be to do what you had to do in your fear to survive.

Wasn't it during the Inquisition that Spain forced the Jews to convert or die, causing a major diaspora? That had nothing to do with the Church?

No. Read the pages linked to before commenting. that's why the links are there, after all ....

And, most of the Jews were allied with the Muslim invaders, and weren't distinguishable from them as part of the invasions.

nope ---jews were there before muslims showed up------but in some cases allied with muslims because they were oppressed by Christians-------the whole endeavor just DID NOT WORK OUT

Don't you have a court ordered auto de fe to complete?

yes-----sometime in July----central park---Manhattan, NY

 

[Agit8r]

Turns out that it was just "enhanced conversions" after all

 

[OldLady]

The Spanish Inquisition: Debunking the Legends

A quick summary:

Quick Summary

Modern historical research has uncovered facts that dismantle many of these centuries-old falsehoods. Here are some quick corrections concerning popular misunderstandings:

• 
  
  
  • The Inquisition was originally welcomed to bring order to Europe because states saw an attack on the state’s faith as an attack on the state as well.
  • The Inquisition technically had jurisdiction only over those professing to be Christians.
  • The courts of the Inquisition were extremely fair compared to their secular counterparts at the time.
  • The Inquisition was responsible for less than 100 witch-hunt deaths, and was the first judicial body to denounce the trials in Europe.
  • Though torture was commonly used in all the courts of Europe at the time, the Inquisition used torture very infrequently.
  • During the 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition, between 3,000-5,000 people were sentenced to death (about 1 per month).
  • The Church executed no one.

Links of note in this paragraph on the page:

In recent years, however, the Vatican opened up its secret archives for historical investigation. Inquisition records that were made by and for the Inquisition were allowed to be researched for the first time in history. Since then, the above facts have been generally discoverable in modern history books (whether Catholic or not). Corrected Inquisition history can be found in sources such as Inquisition by Edward Peters and The Spanish Inquisition: An Historical Revision by Henry Kamen. Comparative secular documentaries include The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition (BBC) and the more sensationalistic The Spanish Inquisition (History Channel).

Even some 'Pagan' followers are in agreement with most of this, and admit witch burning is/was a pagan practice. Paganism was still a major force in medieval Europe, among the peasants and lower aristocracy

.Common Misconceptions: Chronology

Current scholarly estimates of the death toll in The Summerlands

Hear The Voice Paganism Australia: The Myth of the "BURNING TIMES"

Remember that the Witches that people hated and feared during the "Burning Times" are not Witches as we think of them today. Nor were they Pagans. People feared witchcraft because it was thought that those who practiced it could cause death and disease of people livestock and crops. For people who didn't have the scientific background we have today it was easy to blame witchraft for the unexplained. Think of the Black Death that killed nearly 1/3 of the population of Europe. If you didn't understand the idea of germs and disease transmission a frightened person would easily ascribe it to witchcraft. And if no way to stop the disease were known other than killing the witch before s/he killed you and your village think how easy it would be to do what you had to do in your fear to survive.

Wasn't it during the Inquisition that Spain forced the Jews to convert or die, causing a major diaspora? That had nothing to do with the Church?

yes----the Spanish inquisition had a big effect on jews . Jews had fled lots of northern African lands to get away from the "holy" roman empire----to the IBERIAN PENNINSULA-----then
Christianity happened. I have relatives thru marriage that still speak SPANISH------left over from 500 years ago when they were thrown out of Spain------there is a whole literature and music-----which is 'LADINO" ----a kind of mixture of Spanish and Hebrew-------it was quite an extensive and developed culture over there------and it still exists. The stuff is written in Hebrew characters but it is actually standard Castillian spanish

Cool beans. My family's so boringly English.

 

[irosie91]

The Spanish Inquisition: Debunking the Legends

A quick summary:

Quick Summary

Modern historical research has uncovered facts that dismantle many of these centuries-old falsehoods. Here are some quick corrections concerning popular misunderstandings:

• 
  
  
  • The Inquisition was originally welcomed to bring order to Europe because states saw an attack on the state’s faith as an attack on the state as well.
  • The Inquisition technically had jurisdiction only over those professing to be Christians.
  • The courts of the Inquisition were extremely fair compared to their secular counterparts at the time.
  • The Inquisition was responsible for less than 100 witch-hunt deaths, and was the first judicial body to denounce the trials in Europe.
  • Though torture was commonly used in all the courts of Europe at the time, the Inquisition used torture very infrequently.
  • During the 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition, between 3,000-5,000 people were sentenced to death (about 1 per month).
  • The Church executed no one.

Links of note in this paragraph on the page:

In recent years, however, the Vatican opened up its secret archives for historical investigation. Inquisition records that were made by and for the Inquisition were allowed to be researched for the first time in history. Since then, the above facts have been generally discoverable in modern history books (whether Catholic or not). Corrected Inquisition history can be found in sources such as Inquisition by Edward Peters and The Spanish Inquisition: An Historical Revision by Henry Kamen. Comparative secular documentaries include The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition (BBC) and the more sensationalistic The Spanish Inquisition (History Channel).

Even some 'Pagan' followers are in agreement with most of this, and admit witch burning is/was a pagan practice. Paganism was still a major force in medieval Europe, among the peasants and lower aristocracy

.Common Misconceptions: Chronology

Current scholarly estimates of the death toll in The Summerlands

Hear The Voice Paganism Australia: The Myth of the "BURNING TIMES"

Remember that the Witches that people hated and feared during the "Burning Times" are not Witches as we think of them today. Nor were they Pagans. People feared witchcraft because it was thought that those who practiced it could cause death and disease of people livestock and crops. For people who didn't have the scientific background we have today it was easy to blame witchraft for the unexplained. Think of the Black Death that killed nearly 1/3 of the population of Europe. If you didn't understand the idea of germs and disease transmission a frightened person would easily ascribe it to witchcraft. And if no way to stop the disease were known other than killing the witch before s/he killed you and your village think how easy it would be to do what you had to do in your fear to survive.

Wasn't it during the Inquisition that Spain forced the Jews to convert or die, causing a major diaspora? That had nothing to do with the Church?

yes----the Spanish inquisition had a big effect on jews . Jews had fled lots of northern African lands to get away from the "holy" roman empire----to the IBERIAN PENNINSULA-----then
Christianity happened. I have relatives thru marriage that still speak SPANISH------left over from 500 years ago when they were thrown out of Spain------there is a whole literature and music-----which is 'LADINO" ----a kind of mixture of Spanish and Hebrew-------it was quite an extensive and developed culture over there------and it still exists. The stuff is written in Hebrew characters but it is actually standard Castillian spanish

Cool beans. My family's so boringly English.

that's interesting------my paternal grandmother grew up in London. I have a whole bunch of relatives I have never
met in London. The situation had a PROFOUND effect
on my childhood. I ate----KIPPERS AND SCRAMBLED eggs-------and even BOILED CABBAGE. My dad called FRENCH FRIES----"chips" (oy vey)----limeys is weird

 

[guno]

First, they arrested Conversos and notable figures in Seville; in Seville more than 700 Conversos were burned at the stake and 5,000 repented. Tribunals were also opened in Aragon, Catalonia and Valencia. An Inquisition Tribunal was set up in Ciudad Real, where 100 Conversos were condemned, and it was moved to Toledo in 1485. Between 1486-1492, 25 auto de fes were held in Toledo, 467 people were burned at the stake and others were imprisoned. The Inquisition finally made its way to Barcelona, where it was resisted at first because of the important place of Spanish Conversos in the economy and society.

The Inquisition | Jewish Virtual Library

so whatever comes back on the church today is karma and well deserved

 

[longknife]

I didn't check out the link. My studies indicated to me that the impetus to the Inquisition was trying to root out Muslims left behind after the Spanish managed to oust them from Iberia. They had suffered through Muslim intolerance and were, in effect, returning the favor. The clearly avowed goal was to ensure that the people of Spain were all Christian.

The Inquisition also reached the New World in an effort to determine of those claiming to be Christians were just that.

 

[Moonglow]

I didn't check out the link. My studies indicated to me that the impetus to the Inquisition was trying to root out Muslims left behind after the Spanish managed to oust them from Iberia. They had suffered through Muslim intolerance and were, in effect, returning the favor. The clearly avowed goal was to ensure that the people of Spain were all Christian.

The Inquisition also reached the New World in an effort to determine of those claiming to be Christians were just that.

They kept the Muslim architecture intact though..........

 

[irosie91]

First, they arrested Conversos and notable figures in Seville; in Seville more than 700 Conversos were burned at the stake and 5,000 repented. Tribunals were also opened in Aragon, Catalonia and Valencia. An Inquisition Tribunal was set up in Ciudad Real, where 100 Conversos were condemned, and it was moved to Toledo in 1485. Between 1486-1492, 25 auto de fes were held in Toledo, 467 people were burned at the stake and others were imprisoned. The Inquisition finally made its way to Barcelona, where it was resisted at first because of the important place of Spanish Conversos in the economy and society.

The Inquisition | Jewish Virtual Library

so whatever comes back on the church today is karma and well deserved

what's coming back?

 

[Coyote]

The Spanish Inquisition: Debunking the Legends

A quick summary:

Quick Summary

Modern historical research has uncovered facts that dismantle many of these centuries-old falsehoods. Here are some quick corrections concerning popular misunderstandings:

• 
  
  
  • The Inquisition was originally welcomed to bring order to Europe because states saw an attack on the state’s faith as an attack on the state as well.
  • The Inquisition technically had jurisdiction only over those professing to be Christians.
  • The courts of the Inquisition were extremely fair compared to their secular counterparts at the time.
  • The Inquisition was responsible for less than 100 witch-hunt deaths, and was the first judicial body to denounce the trials in Europe.
  • Though torture was commonly used in all the courts of Europe at the time, the Inquisition used torture very infrequently.
  • During the 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition, between 3,000-5,000 people were sentenced to death (about 1 per month).
  • The Church executed no one.

Links of note in this paragraph on the page:

In recent years, however, the Vatican opened up its secret archives for historical investigation. Inquisition records that were made by and for the Inquisition were allowed to be researched for the first time in history. Since then, the above facts have been generally discoverable in modern history books (whether Catholic or not). Corrected Inquisition history can be found in sources such as Inquisition by Edward Peters and The Spanish Inquisition: An Historical Revision by Henry Kamen. Comparative secular documentaries include The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition (BBC) and the more sensationalistic The Spanish Inquisition (History Channel).

Even some 'Pagan' followers are in agreement with most of this, and admit witch burning is/was a pagan practice. Paganism was still a major force in medieval Europe, among the peasants and lower aristocracy

.Common Misconceptions: Chronology

Current scholarly estimates of the death toll in The Summerlands

Hear The Voice Paganism Australia: The Myth of the "BURNING TIMES"

Remember that the Witches that people hated and feared during the "Burning Times" are not Witches as we think of them today. Nor were they Pagans. People feared witchcraft because it was thought that those who practiced it could cause death and disease of people livestock and crops. For people who didn't have the scientific background we have today it was easy to blame witchraft for the unexplained. Think of the Black Death that killed nearly 1/3 of the population of Europe. If you didn't understand the idea of germs and disease transmission a frightened person would easily ascribe it to witchcraft. And if no way to stop the disease were known other than killing the witch before s/he killed you and your village think how easy it would be to do what you had to do in your fear to survive.

Wasn't it during the Inquisition that Spain forced the Jews to convert or die, causing a major diaspora? That had nothing to do with the Church?

Now they're white washing the Spanish Inquistion? I wonder if they're Holocaust Deniers too?

 

[guno]

I didn't check out the link. My studies indicated to me that the impetus to the Inquisition was trying to root out Muslims left behind after the Spanish managed to oust them from Iberia. They had suffered through Muslim intolerance and were, in effect, returning the favor. The clearly avowed goal was to ensure that the people of Spain were all Christian.

The Inquisition also reached the New World in an effort to determine of those claiming to be Christians were just that.

the Inquisition and crusades where against Jews and Muslims

The Bloody Crusades

The Inquisition

As the Christian re-conquest gained momentum, Jews in these newly re-conquered Christians territories began to suffer from increasingly harsher persecutions.

In their blood-thirsty vengeance against the Muslims, the Spanish Christians included the Jews, whom they put in the category of infidels.

In 14th century Barcelona, for example, the whole Jewish community was murdered by a rioting mob. First given shelter by some Christians, these Jews were pressured to convert. Those who did not were refused protection.

Writes Professor B. Netanyahu in his 1,400-page work, The Origins of the Inquisition, quoting an eyewitness account of the time:

“Those of them who refused to accept baptism were immediately slain, and their corpses, stretched in the streets and the squares, offered a horrendous spectacle.” (p. 159)

 

[irosie91]

The Spanish Inquisition: Debunking the Legends

A quick summary:

Quick Summary

Modern historical research has uncovered facts that dismantle many of these centuries-old falsehoods. Here are some quick corrections concerning popular misunderstandings:

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  • The Inquisition was originally welcomed to bring order to Europe because states saw an attack on the state’s faith as an attack on the state as well.
  • The Inquisition technically had jurisdiction only over those professing to be Christians.
  • The courts of the Inquisition were extremely fair compared to their secular counterparts at the time.
  • The Inquisition was responsible for less than 100 witch-hunt deaths, and was the first judicial body to denounce the trials in Europe.
  • Though torture was commonly used in all the courts of Europe at the time, the Inquisition used torture very infrequently.
  • During the 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition, between 3,000-5,000 people were sentenced to death (about 1 per month).
  • The Church executed no one.

Links of note in this paragraph on the page:

In recent years, however, the Vatican opened up its secret archives for historical investigation. Inquisition records that were made by and for the Inquisition were allowed to be researched for the first time in history. Since then, the above facts have been generally discoverable in modern history books (whether Catholic or not). Corrected Inquisition history can be found in sources such as Inquisition by Edward Peters and The Spanish Inquisition: An Historical Revision by Henry Kamen. Comparative secular documentaries include The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition (BBC) and the more sensationalistic The Spanish Inquisition (History Channel).

Even some 'Pagan' followers are in agreement with most of this, and admit witch burning is/was a pagan practice. Paganism was still a major force in medieval Europe, among the peasants and lower aristocracy

.Common Misconceptions: Chronology

Current scholarly estimates of the death toll in The Summerlands

Hear The Voice Paganism Australia: The Myth of the "BURNING TIMES"

Remember that the Witches that people hated and feared during the "Burning Times" are not Witches as we think of them today. Nor were they Pagans. People feared witchcraft because it was thought that those who practiced it could cause death and disease of people livestock and crops. For people who didn't have the scientific background we have today it was easy to blame witchraft for the unexplained. Think of the Black Death that killed nearly 1/3 of the population of Europe. If you didn't understand the idea of germs and disease transmission a frightened person would easily ascribe it to witchcraft. And if no way to stop the disease were known other than killing the witch before s/he killed you and your village think how easy it would be to do what you had to do in your fear to survive.

Wasn't it during the Inquisition that Spain forced the Jews to convert or die, causing a major diaspora? That had nothing to do with the Church?

Now they're white washing the Spanish Inquistion? I wonder if they're Holocaust Deniers too?

there are lots of INQUISITION deniers-----their main thrust is that the number of KNOWN CHRISTIANS who were executed
came to only a few thousand.------Based on the treatment of KNOWN CHRISTIANS --the Inquisition was fair. KNOWN CHRISTIANS were entitled to legal counsel and a TRIAL---fair and square.----only a few thousand were executed during the whole thing in Spain------of course that leaves out the hundreds of thousands of---non Christians-----who had no rights whatsoever------Inquisition deniers simply ---LEAVE THEM OUT. Conversos were not known Christians and----muslims and jews----just did not count as human----nor did homosexuals that anyone wanted to be rid of