A Giant Hoax?

[Unkotare]

There are a surprising number of accounts of giant skeletons found in many parts of North America by settlers, miners, and amateur archaeologists from the early years of European settlement through the turn of the last century. But, suspiciously, no such skeletons around for us to see for ourselves now.


Lovelock Cave: A Tale of Giants or A Giant Tale of Fiction?

 

[OldLady]

There are a surprising number of accounts of giant skeletons found in many parts of North America by settlers, miners, and amateur archaeologists from the early years of European settlement through the turn of the last century. But, suspiciously, no such skeletons around for us to see for ourselves now.


Lovelock Cave: A Tale of Giants or A Giant Tale of Fiction?

Is it a "hoax" when untrained but imaginative people see what they want to see? Giants, Sasquatch, local ghost legends ...
It's not a hoax unless it's intentionally misleading, is it?

 

[Unkotare]

There are a surprising number of accounts of giant skeletons found in many parts of North America by settlers, miners, and amateur archaeologists from the early years of European settlement through the turn of the last century. But, suspiciously, no such skeletons around for us to see for ourselves now.


Lovelock Cave: A Tale of Giants or A Giant Tale of Fiction?

Is it a "hoax" when untrained but imaginative people see what they want to see? Giants, Sasquatch, local ghost legends ...
It's not a hoax unless it's intentionally misleading, is it?

Intention can be kind of hard to determine with certainty.

 

[Unkotare]

The Greatest Smithsonian cover up: Dozens of Giant skeletons discovered around the world | Ancient Code

 

[jon_berzerk]

There are a surprising number of accounts of giant skeletons found in many parts of North America by settlers, miners, and amateur archaeologists from the early years of European settlement through the turn of the last century. But, suspiciously, no such skeletons around for us to see for ourselves now.


Lovelock Cave: A Tale of Giants or A Giant Tale of Fiction?

as in giant

do you mean like 20 ft giants

or

7 to 8 ft giants

 

[Unkotare]

There are a surprising number of accounts of giant skeletons found in many parts of North America by settlers, miners, and amateur archaeologists from the early years of European settlement through the turn of the last century. But, suspiciously, no such skeletons around for us to see for ourselves now.


Lovelock Cave: A Tale of Giants or A Giant Tale of Fiction?

as in giant

do you mean like 20 ft giants

or

7 to 8 ft giants

The latter. Read the link.

 

[Moonglow]

Giants are no mystery, the angles had sex with humans and thus giants were born, David slew Goliath, a giant human..

 

[OldLady]

Lovelock sounds like ancient legends of folks here from Europe at some point--like the Vikings, only an ice age earlier. That stuff is so cool. They have found some intriguing evidence of that in Florida, as well. There are small pockets of folks here and there who tend to be much taller than average, but big people need a lot more fodder and don't survive lean times as well as smaller folks. 7 to 8 foot giants could certainly have existed and been considered pretty darned remarkable if your side averaged 5 feet a few inches tall, particularly if your only means of combat was hand to hand or with a stick. Those stories might get repeated during long winter nights for a long, long time.

 

[whitehall]

There are giants and there are giants. There are also hoaxes. The Cardiff (NY) giant in the 1860's was a sensation but turned out to be a clever hoax. The Piltdown Man in England was also a sensation at the turn of the 20th century but was debunked in the 50's. It's said that the "giant" myth originated when fossilized dinosaur leg bones were unearthed by the Greeks and Romans and thought to be human at the time. Neanderthal man apparently existed alongside Humans for a time (and interbred?) and they were powerful creatures.

 

[Unkotare]

There are giants and there are giants. There are also hoaxes. The Cardiff (NY) giant in the 1860's was a sensation but turned out to be a clever hoax. The Piltdown Man in England was also a sensation at the turn of the 20th century but was debunked in the 50's. It's said that the "giant" myth originated when fossilized dinosaur leg bones were unearthed by the Greeks and Romans and thought to be human at the time. Neanderthal man apparently existed alongside Humans for a time (and interbred?) and they were powerful creatures.

The Neanderthal were shorter than Homo Sapiens, so....

 

[Unkotare]

Now Homo heidelbergensis on the other hand...

 

[boedicca]

There are a surprising number of accounts of giant skeletons found in many parts of North America by settlers, miners, and amateur archaeologists from the early years of European settlement through the turn of the last century. But, suspiciously, no such skeletons around for us to see for ourselves now.


Lovelock Cave: A Tale of Giants or A Giant Tale of Fiction?

They found dinosaur bones and thought they were from giants.

 

[Care4all]

Tallest Man Facts

 

[rightwinger]

Giants are real

 

[waltky]

The so-called 'missing link'...

Piltdown breakdown: new details about a famed scientific hoax
August 10, 2016WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Researchers applying modern forensic techniques to a century-old puzzle have laid bare intriguing new details about one of the most notorious scientific hoaxes on record, the so-called Piltdown Man, and are confident in the culprit's identity.

The phony fossil remains of a "missing link" between apes and humans, planted in gravel near the English village of Piltdown, were concocted using the jawbone and teeth from a single orangutan, two or three sets of old human remains and the liberal use of dental putty, the researchers said on Wednesday. They said their findings left little doubt the perpetrator was amateur archaeologist Charles Dawson, who in 1912 "discovered" the first of the bogus Piltdown remains and has long been the chief suspect.

Scientists Robert Kruszynski and Girdland Flink carry out tests on samples of the remains of the Piltdown Man, the bogus fossils of a “missing link” between apes and humans that created a scientific sensation in the 1910's in Britain, in the DNA laboratory of the Natural History Museum, London, in an undated picture released by the Natural History Museum​

The study, using DNA analyses, high-precision measurements, spectroscopy and other techniques, was published in the journal Royal Society Open Science on the 100th anniversary of Dawson's death. "This is a fascinating real-life 'whodunit' and it shows how new technology can be applied to solve old problems," said paleoanthropologist Chris Stringer of the Natural History Museum in London. The Piltdown remains created a scientific sensation as the long-awaited "missing link" confirming Charles Darwin's evolution theory. Four decades passed before it was proven as a hoax. "It set back studies of human evolution for many years, particularly in Britain, as some of the most prominent experts allowed themselves to be misled," Stringer said.

DNA analysis showed the original "discovery" and a second set of remains announced by Dawson included teeth, filed down to make them appear human, and a lower jaw from a single orangutan, mostly likely from southwestern Sarawak, Borneo. Remains from two or perhaps three possibly medieval humans were used to make up the forged cranial fossils, using the same part of the back of the skull, anthropologist Isabelle De Groote of Liverpool John Moores University said.

Skull holes were filled with putty, which also was employed to reset the teeth in the jaw and reconstruct one of the teeth. The fact a single orangutan specimen was used in both sets of remains implicates Dawson, the only person associated with both, Stringer said. There was also a consistent modus operandi in the concoction of the two sets, indicating a single forger, Stringer said. Experts suspect Dawson's motives were winning fame and recognition from the scientific community. A recent analysis of Dawson's collection of fossils and antiques revealed other forgeries.

Piltdown breakdown: new details about a famed scientific hoax