The Sheer Incompetence of Progressives

[elektra]

Why cover a reservoir if it was for fires?

What are you trying to argue? The reservoir is just one of many reasons why democrats can't govern.

People died because of the democrat's policies.

 

[the watcher]

Our best politicians come from Kalifornia.

 

[the watcher]

Then why is everyone claiming it was for the fire.

Cover a reservoir, who thinks up this shit? That's just make up bureaucratic crap. The water in this was a small part of the big picture, but it could have been storage for either a water emergency or for fire fighting and made a difference. I think it just got lost in the shuffle due to incompetence. There seems to be a culture of arrogance and indifference to taxpayer needs there, and they aren't by themselves.

 

[martybegan]

I can't deal with these fucking people anymore. I didn't vote for Trump. But now that Trump has been elected, I hope he crushes the woke progressive left.

Can anyone anywhere tell me what progressives have done to make life better for anyone other than their own elites mouthing bullshit platitudes?

The list of Massive Progressive Fails is a long one. But the fires in LA and the covering of the racist Pakistani rape gangs is beyond the pale. And the anti-Semitic pro-Palestinian bullshit of the Far Left is disgusting.

I'm a Canadian, and there has never been a worse Prime Minister in my lifetime than Justin Trudeau. Until a few years ago, immigration didn't even make my top 10 list of concerns. But now it's in my top two. Maybe first.

My brother is poor and handicapped. He has lived on the street. A few years ago, he was able to live on his own. But because that asshole Trudeau has let over 2 million people into Canada over the past two years, he can no longer afford rent, which has soared 40% in 18 months.

Sheer fucking incompetence. That's the progressive legacy. I hope they lose everywhere.

The main problem is progressives are mostly "ideas" people, not execution people.

 

[elektra]

Cover a reservoir, who thinks up this shit? That's just make up bureaucratic crap. The water in this was a small part of the big picture, but it could have been storage for either a water emergency or for fire fighting and made a difference. I think it just got lost in the shuffle due to incompetence. There seems to be a culture of arrogance and indifference to taxpayer needs there, and they aren't by themselves.

After the fire starts, I am sure everything helps

Hopefully Hollywood wakes up. Hollywood is a big voice for democrats. Hollywood is the democrats.

 

[JohnDB]

This is Gavin Newsom fighting back with undercover cameras trying to catch Elon.
But what is already known was that there was a real lack of manpower, infrastructure, and preventative measures....all of which are directly Newson's fault.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

.......Hmmmmm, how about EVAPORATION?

Like your brain cells did..............YEARS AGO.

How the FUCK does your claim (excuse) that the reservoir was for drinking water change anything, dOPey?

WTF,SeaSwab?
THAT was what the cover was for..........DUMBASS.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Like your brain cells did..............YEARS AGO.

WTF,SeaSwab?
THAT was what the cover was for..........DUMBASS.

Fuck off with your EXCUSES for progressive FAILURE.

 

[struth]

I’m a Republican again. Fuck gays, women, Arabs, Asians, immigrants, Hispanics, poor people and blacks. They didn’t show up for Kamala so they all get what they deserve.

you sound like a typical dembot. That's why hispanics and blacks didn't show up for Harris.

You folks are assholes and bigots

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

What are you trying to argue?

That was the reason they gave as to why the reservoir was empty.
The covering had to be replaced.

The reservoir is just one of many reasons why democrats can't govern.

Sure.............................
Send California rakes like your dear leader suggested.

Finland baffled by Trump's forest fire raking claim​

The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › us-news › nov › make-...
Nov 19, 2018 — The people of Finland have reacted with bemusement on social media at Donald Trump's assertions that the country rakes its forests to help prevent forest fires.



Tell the Jews to turn of their space lasers.

Marjorie Taylor Greene Blamed Wildfire on Jewish Space ...​

New York Magazine
https://nymag.com › intelligencer › article › marjorie-ta...
Jan 28, 2021 — Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA), a supporter of WQAnon and other conspiracy theories, has called the the execution of Democratic officials.

People died because of the democrat's policies.

Not enough rakes or Israel didn't get Greene's memo?

 

[DBA]

America is an unexceptional country because of you.

You mean because he is a realist? An adult?

Do you people ever grow up? Theory is neat, but at some point you have to move into the reality realm, otherwise, you end up being an eternal teenager.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Fuck off with your EXCUSES for progressive FAILURE.

See #130 above SeaSwab.

 

[DonGlock26]

The main problem is progressives are mostly "ideas" people, not execution people.

Dreamers.

 

[martybegan]

Dreamers.

And that patron hires execution people.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[SeaMajor7]

See #130 above SeaSwab.

See this:

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

See this:

 

[DBA]

Multiply that rusting power by 5,000%.

Two of my folks vehicles were partially submerged during Helene.

They started rusting immediately, and within days they accumulated the equivalent of twenty five years of Missouri rust.

I'm trying to salvage one...but for sure the entire exhaust system is going to need to be replaced from the headers back.

Anywhere there is unprotected metal that that saltwater goes where you can't flush it away immediately is likely a lost cause.

It's just unbelievable the damage that saltwater did.

Anybody that fishes in salt water or lives near the coast knows the damage salt can do. I don't think many will deny this.

However, if given the choice between my house burning to the ground vs being dumped with salt water, I would take the latter and deal with the consequences. That being said, they shouldn't have been presented with those two poor choices. Fresh water should have been available and would have been if they had competent leaders who were pragmatic, not idealistic. That pretty much rules out far-left Democrats.

 

[22lcidw]

There are many years before conservatism in real terms will ever be implemented nationally. Some of it will though with a more profound effect in regional/local environs that trended in that direction. We keep seeing politicians that are shallow in the face of rioting, pandemics and disasters. We see the same using their politics to deny inalienable rights with those issues for party politics. Progs control most of the narrative. And in rea after area they keep their governing treading water at best. And it is good enough to keep the system going and prove to all they are the answer. Yet the american areas they hate, are the real contributors to their old wealth and old money with overseas slaves propping up the empire they created.

 

[DBA]

Over the course of U.S. history, progressive, populist, socialist, and labor movements, collectively and loosely referred to as “the American left”, have influenced, championed, and helped enact many of the workplace protections, civil rights laws, and social welfare programs we know today.

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1. Worker Protections and Labor Reforms​

1. Eight-Hour Day and 40-Hour Work Week
   
   • The push for shorter working hours dates back to the late 19th-century labor movement, which was strongly supported by socialist, progressive, and labor organizers.
   • The Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) of 1938, signed by President Franklin D. Roosevelt, officially established the 40-hour workweek, overtime pay, and minimum wage.
2. Overtime Pay
   
   • Also established by the Fair Labor Standards Act of 1938, requiring employers to pay workers time-and-a-half for hours worked over 40 per week.
3. Minimum Wage
   
   • First introduced at the federal level by the Fair Labor Standards Act. Progressive activists and labor leaders fought for a guaranteed wage floor to protect low-wage workers from exploitation.
4. Child Labor Laws
   
   • Child labor restrictions were championed by labor unions, progressives, and social reformers, culminating in federal regulations within the FLSA that set minimum age requirements and hour limits for working minors.
5. Right to Unionize & Collective Bargaining
   
   • The National Labor Relations Act (Wagner Act) of 1935 guaranteed workers the right to form unions and engage in collective bargaining without employer interference. Unions—and the broader left—were crucial in advocating for these rights.
6. Unemployment Insurance
   
   • Part of the Social Security Act of 1935, unemployment benefits were a key component of FDR’s New Deal, which progressives and organized labor strongly supported.
7. Workers’ Compensation
   
   • Many states began instituting workers’ compensation laws in the early 1900s, largely due to pressure from progressive reformers and labor organizations that sought protection for employees who were injured on the job.
8. Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA)
   
   • Established in 1971 under President Richard Nixon (though with strong backing from labor advocates and progressive lawmakers), OSHA enforces safety standards and regulations to prevent workplace injuries and deaths.

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2. Social Safety Net and Welfare Programs​

1. Social Security (1935)
   
   • A cornerstone of the New Deal, Social Security provides retirement benefits and disability insurance. It was heavily promoted by FDR and progressive allies in Congress in response to the Great Depression.
2. Medicare and Medicaid (1965)
   
   • Passed as part of President Lyndon B. Johnson’s “Great Society,” Medicare provides health insurance to Americans 65 and older, while Medicaid offers coverage to low-income individuals. Progressive legislators, social justice activists, and labor unions were pivotal advocates.
3. Food Stamps / SNAP
   
   • Initiated as a pilot under President Kennedy and expanded under President Johnson, the Food Stamp Program (now SNAP) was a key part of the War on Poverty—a set of programs championed by progressives to fight hunger and poverty.
4. Aid to Families with Dependent Children (AFDC) / Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF)
   
   • Originally part of the Social Security Act, expanded over time by progressive policymakers and social welfare advocates to provide financial support to low-income families with children.

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3. Voting Rights and Political Participation​

1. Women’s Suffrage (19th Amendment, 1920)
   
   • Suffragists and progressive activists fought for decades to secure voting rights for women. Although support was widespread, left-leaning reformers and activists were generally among the strongest advocates.
2. Universal White Male Suffrage in the 19th Century
   
   • While not typically labeled “left vs. right” in the modern sense, the broader democratic movement (championed by Jacksonian Democrats and various populist groups) did away with property requirements, expanding voting rights to all white men. Early labor and populist movements pushed for more inclusive suffrage.
3. Civil Rights Act (1964) and Voting Rights Act (1965)
   
   • Enacted under President Lyndon B. Johnson, these landmark laws outlawed segregation and discriminatory voting practices. Civil rights groups, progressive activists, and the liberal wing of the Democratic Party were instrumental in pushing for these reforms.
4. Eliminating Poll Taxes (24th Amendment, 1964)
   
   • Poll taxes were used to disenfranchise poor voters (disproportionately people of color). The 24th Amendment abolished poll taxes in federal elections, a victory for civil rights organizations and progressive lawmakers.

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4. Civil Rights and Anti-Discrimination Efforts​

1. Ending Segregation and Jim Crow
   
   • Activists from the NAACP, labor unions (like the Brotherhood of Sleeping Car Porters), socialist organizations, and progressive religious groups were core components of the civil rights movement, which brought about the dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the South.
2. Fair Housing Act (1968)
   
   • Outlawed discriminatory housing practices. Advocates included civil rights groups and progressive politicians who fought for open and equal housing opportunities.
3. Affirmative Action
   
   • Initiated under President John F. Kennedy and expanded under President Lyndon B. Johnson, Affirmative Action programs were intended to address historical discrimination, strongly championed by many liberals and civil rights activists.
4. Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA, 1990)
   
   • While signed into law by President George H. W. Bush, it was heavily supported by progressive activists and disability rights advocates, ensuring people with disabilities have protections in employment, transportation, and public accommodations.

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5. Women’s Rights Beyond Suffrage​

1. Equal Pay Act (1963)
   
   • Requires employers to pay men and women equally for equal work. This was championed by labor unions, feminists, and progressive members of Congress.
2. Title IX (1972)
   
   • Part of the Education Amendments of 1972, which prohibits gender discrimination in education, including athletics. This was a key victory for feminists and left-leaning lawmakers committed to gender equality.
3. Roe v. Wade (1973)
   
   • Though a Supreme Court decision (later affected by Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization in 2022), reproductive rights have historically been supported by progressive and left-wing groups, who played a major role in advocating for women’s autonomy and healthcare rights.

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6. Broader Social and Economic Reforms​

1. The New Deal Programs
   
   • In addition to Social Security, the New Deal encompassed agencies and policies like the Works Progress Administration (WPA), the Civilian Conservation Corps (CCC), and the Public Works Administration (PWA), which provided millions of jobs. These programs were a hallmark of progressive policy during the Great Depression.
2. The Great Society Programs
   
   • Under Lyndon B. Johnson, these included Medicare, Medicaid, the War on Poverty initiatives, Head Start (early childhood education), and more. All were broadly backed by liberal and progressive lawmakers.
3. Environmental Protections
   
   • While protecting the environment has broad political support, progressive and left-leaning advocates have been strong in pushing laws like the Clean Air Act (1970) and the Clean Water Act (1972), helping establish the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) under President Nixon.
4. Expansion of Civil Liberties
   
   • Left-wing groups and civil liberties organizations (e.g., the ACLU) have advocated for free speech, freedom of assembly, and protections from government overreach, playing a major part in many landmark court decisions and legislative changes.

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Key Takeaways​

• Labor Rights (e.g., shorter workweeks, overtime pay, minimum wage, right to unionize) were heavily promoted by organized labor and left-wing activists.
• Social Safety Net expansions (Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, unemployment insurance) came largely through progressive legislative efforts, especially during the New Deal and Great Society.
• Civil Rights (ending legal segregation, enforcing voting rights, and dismantling discriminatory policies) saw strong leadership and activism from progressive coalitions, including many on the left.
• Women’s Rights (suffrage, equal pay, anti-discrimination in education) were fought for by feminist and progressive movements, often in alliance with broader leftist organizations.

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So-called "woke" liberals aren't necessarily leftists. Being a true progressive leftists is not equal to being a liberal. There are distinctions in affiliation and commitments to the social and economic interests of the working class. Some liberals are indeed "elitists" and aren't committed to the interests of the working-class, but rather the vested interests of the wealthy, to the detriment of the American public.

There are right-wing conservatives who are authoritarian and then we have the right-wing libertarians, who are pro-capitalism, but condemn the use of the government to legislate morality, punish vice..etc.

There are Republicans who aren't Zionists, who prioritize the interests of the United States over that of the Jewish Zionist State and there are others who worship Jews as the "chosen people of God, who can't do anything wrong" (they're afraid of Jews). They grant their unconditional support to whatever Netanyahu does, financially, militarily, and otherwise.

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All right-wing Republicans aren't the same, and neither are progressive leftists or socialists.




How so, explain.


Being a leftist doesn't equate to open borders or allowing mass immigration into one's country. Leftists would make sure your brother has housing, healthcare, and even a job if he can work. If not, he would be subsidized, given a monthly income. That's what the left would do because we realize it's much more expensive to abandon people out in the street and not address the problem. Ignoring the issue, sweeping the homeless under the bridge, costs society more in the long-run, than simply housing them and meeting their needs.



The legacy of the actual left is impressive, considering what they've contributed, so you're simply ignorant of history.

Neat. The problem is that the woke folks took over the Democratic Party. People with common sense are fleeing the party because if they continue down the same path they will destroy the country. It is as simple as that.