Zone1 The secret Christians aren’t sharing with you

[22lcidw]

So christianity is now an apocalypse cult?

Neat!!

Prior to 1913 American Christians no matter their prejudices were wary of wars. That changed that year. The Federal Reserve Act, the 16th and 17th amendments were passed. Within a couple of years, we were in a foreign war. A higher percentage of Americans were conscientious objectors. The federal reserve than created the roaring twenties and then took the carpet away and put us into the worst depression in human history. We still had immigration from Europe even during the 1930's where fascism/communism was rearing its ugly head. We were ready from the tough living to forget those conscientious objections as Christians after a dozen years of depression and at least 10% of the nation died from it to get into WW 2.

 

[DennisPTate]

NDEs are real and there is an afterlife

That is exactly the same conclusion that I arrived at as well!

 

[DennisPTate]

Prior to 1913 American Christians no matter their prejudices were wary of wars. That changed that year. The Federal Reserve Act, the 16th and 17th amendments were passed. Within a couple of years, we were in a foreign war. A higher percentage of Americans were conscientious objectors. The federal reserve than created the roaring twenties and then took the carpet away and put us into the worst depression in human history. We still had immigration from Europe even during the 1930's where fascism/communism was rearing its ugly head. We were ready from the tough living to forget those conscientious objections as Christians after a dozen years of depression and at least 10% of the nation died from it to get into WW 2.

This is an absolutely fascinating comment.

May I quote you in full over into this other discussion?

As you can guess I am of the belief that the "Military and Industrial Complex" in the USA find creative ways to bend the majority of Americans and Canadians to do their bidding.

Thread 'To what degree is the national debt of the United States something of a "Malthusian Practical Joke?"'

Nov 18, 2025

It is my belief that the national debt of the United States, [as well as the national debt of Canada], is significantly a practical joke that is being played on us ignorant masses by Neo-Malthusians who control a significant percentage of the real wealth of this world.

I believe that it is important to recognize that these Neo-Malthusians are not stupid people, and they are not necessarily entirely wrong in their beliefs that we humans are too productive.... too creative..... and too destructive to the environment.

In a way that song from the seventies about taking "Paradise and...

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[godincarnate.me]

Its successful culture.

Indeed. It’s a beautiful facade.

 

[godincarnate.me]

So do you believe that YOU have the wisdom and the understanding to discern the errors in what near death experiencer Robert Marshal testifies to having been shown?

I don't think you can find any significant errors in his testimony when it is combined with the astonishing medical records in his amazing case.

Experiences of an afterlife during a NDE is hokum.

 

[godincarnate.me]

When a child asks a parent, “What happens when you die?” the parent often responds that the deceased go to be with God. It’s a comforting answer, but what else could they say? That nothing happens, but there’s a man on Earth who is God incarnate, orchestrating existence, and upon his death, all reality will reset to 1980 with him reborn as a child? I think not. Yet, this unspoken knowledge sustains the Christian narrative. Cultural traditions like Christmas further reinforce this, weaving a story that’s easier to accept than to challenge. Every culture has its way of shielding children from such unsettling ideas, preserving faith through simplified tales of the afterlife.

Kids run the world. I love kids, especially babies.

 

[DennisPTate]

Experiences of an afterlife during a NDE is hokum.

In my opinion your statement indicates to me that you
as well as Richard Dawkins Ph. D. tend to be at least somewhat IGNORANT of:
1. The Anthropic Principle
2 String Theory
3 The Cyclic Model of the universe
4 Tehilliard's Law of Complexity Consciousness.....
and the list could go on and on and on and on.......

On the plus side..... your position makes for an interesting discussion......

Zone1 Thread 'Theistic Evolutionary Theory?'

Nov 7, 2025

I feel that I have been given a rather unique explanation for the full history of the universe and I even feel somewhat responsible to try my best to get others thinking about this general idea that can perhaps result even in a book or two, about this idea in technical jargon that I cannot do myself.

Chapter thirteen of "Stephen Hawking's Universe" is entitled "The Anthropic Principle." I personally got the impression from that chapter that the late Stephen Hawking Ph. D. may NOT have been a full fledge Atheist but may instead have been questioning if there was a Theistic version of...

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[godincarnate.me]

In my opinion your statement indicates to me that you
as well as Richard Dawkins Ph. D. tend to be at least somewhat IGNORANT of:
1. The Anthropic Principle
2 String Theory
3 The Cyclic Model of the universe
4 Tehilliard's Law of Complexity Consciousness.....
and the list could go on and on and on and on.......

On the plus side..... your position makes for an interesting discussion......

Zone1 Thread 'Theistic Evolutionary Theory?'

Nov 7, 2025

I feel that I have been given a rather unique explanation for the full history of the universe and I even feel somewhat responsible to try my best to get others thinking about this general idea that can perhaps result even in a book or two, about this idea in technical jargon that I cannot do myself.

Chapter thirteen of "Stephen Hawking's Universe" is entitled "The Anthropic Principle." I personally got the impression from that chapter that the late Stephen Hawking Ph. D. may NOT have been a full fledge Atheist but may instead have been questioning if there was a Theistic version of...

• DennisPTate
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Well, if they come back from their near death experience with knowledge that there is a man living on earth, who is the incarnation of God and that when this incarnation dies all existence ends and begins again, then yes I’ll agree with you that NDE’s can give one insight.

Anything else would be a lie or hokum.

 

[DennisPTate]

When a child asks a parent, “What happens when you die?” the parent often responds that the deceased go to be with God. It’s a comforting answer, but what else could they say? That nothing happens, but there’s a man on Earth who is God incarnate, orchestrating existence, and upon his death, all reality will reset to 1980 with him reborn as a child? I think not. Yet, this unspoken knowledge sustains the Christian narrative. Cultural traditions like Christmas further reinforce this, weaving a story that’s easier to accept than to challenge. Every culture has its way of shielding children from such unsettling ideas, preserving faith through simplified tales of the afterlife.

Kids run the world. I love kids, especially babies.

I heard Dr. Billy Graham give a "Hellfire and Brimstone" sermon on TV back around 1965 or '66, when I was six or seven years old. A year or so later I heard Darwinian Evolutionary Theory taught in Grade four, and I became an Atheist. I actually became an angry Atheist who promoted Atheism.

In 1972 or '73 I heard TV Evangelist Garner Ted Armstrong pretty much destroy the basis for Darwin's take on Evolutionary Theory so I joined the Worldwide Church of God when I could finally afford a car and drive two and a half hours to church in Dartmouth, on Saturdays.

By 1990 I ran into near death experience accounts and I concluded that Pastor General Herbert W. Armstrong and his son Garner Ted, had been incorrect regarding their view on the State of the Dead.

[Dr. George Ritchie] :

c. His Experience of the “Receiving Station”​

Jesus then takes Ritchie to another realm and is shown a kind of “receiving station” where spirits would arrive in a deep hypnotic sleep because of a particular religious belief they held to be true. Here there were “angels” trying to arouse them and help them realize, “God is truly a God of the living and that they did not have to lie around sleeping until Gabriel or someone came along blowing on a horn.” These are the spirits of people who believe they must sleep in their grave until the second coming of Christ (i.e., soul sleep.)

George Ritchie's Near-Death Experience - Near-Death Experiences and the Afterlife

Near-Death Experiences and the Afterlife profiles George Ritchie's Near-Death Experience . Did you enjoy reading this post, we have more!

near-death.com

 

[DennisPTate]

Well, if they come back from their near death experience with knowledge that there is a man living on earth, who is the incarnation of God and that when this incarnation dies all existence ends and begins again, then yes I’ll agree with you that NDE’s can give one insight.

Anything else would be a lie or hokum.

Fascinating... I take it that YOU are the incarnation of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus?

For the record, one of the possible implications of NDE accounts is that all of us have been replicated from one original "spirit" or "soul" .... so...... if you feel a powerful connection with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus I will find that to be interesting, and not totally inconsistent with the larger picture.

 

[godincarnate.me]

Fascinating... I take it that YOU are the incarnation of Messiah Yeshua - Jesus?

For the record, one of the possible implications of NDE accounts is that all of us have been replicated from one original "spirit" or "soul" .... so...... if you feel a powerful connection with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus I will find that to be interesting, and not totally inconsistent with the larger picture.

Jesus? Definitely not.


You can read here if you’re interested.

Thread 'Ever wonder how we got here and where we’re going?'

Nov 19, 2025

For the past sixteen years, I have known that I am the incarnation of God and that if I didn't exist, nothing would. All existence began upon my appearance on Earth in 1980 when I was five years old, and upon my death all things will begin in the exact same way. God chose to manifest me at this age, for aligning my creation with conception, born of man and woman, would have prevented the full embodiment of my divine essence. God judged it most wise to initiate the entirety of existence during an era of relative tranquility and technological progress. Each lifecycle is identical in exact...

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Or visit my website. Link in my about section on my profile.

 

[mac allen]

Concerning Christ, I'm certain that many followers secretly believe that “Jesus” resides on Earth

I have never met a Christian who has indicated that in any way, shape, or form.

 

[godincarnate.me]

I have never met a Christian who has indicated that in any way, shape, or form.

& u won't. hence secret

 

[mac allen]

& u won't. hence secret

Then how do you know?

 

[godincarnate.me]

Then how do you know?

When a Christian tells you they believe a man rose from the grave 2000 years ago, is in heaven now at the right seat of the father, waiting to judge the world and bring forth a new heaven and new Earth (whatever that means), what are they really saying? Come on! Sometimes you gotta use your head.

 

[mac allen]

When a Christian tells you they believe that a man rose from the grave 2000 years ago, is in heaven now at the right seat of the father, waiting to judge the world and bring forth a new heaven and new Earth (whatever that means), what are they really saying? Come on! Sometimes you gotta use your head.

You just acknowledged you don't know, but then you know in your very next sentence.

 

[godincarnate.me]

You just acknowledged you don't know, but then you know in your very next sentence.

When I said whatever that means I was being sarcastic

 

[mac allen]

When I said whatever that means I was being sarcastic

Ok, yet another boring and sarcastic atheist.

 

[Stryder50]

Jesus? Definitely not.


You can read here if you’re interested.

Thread 'Ever wonder how we got here and where we’re going?'

Nov 19, 2025

For the past sixteen years, I have known that I am the incarnation of God and that if I didn't exist, nothing would. All existence began upon my appearance on Earth in 1980 when I was five years old, and upon my death all things will begin in the exact same way. God chose to manifest me at this age, for aligning my creation with conception, born of man and woman, would have prevented the full embodiment of my divine essence. God judged it most wise to initiate the entirety of existence during an era of relative tranquility and technological progress. Each lifecycle is identical in exact...

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Or visit my website. Link in my about section on my profile.

The Geminga Scenario

 

[godincarnate.me]

The Geminga Scenario

One timeline cannot exist because if we were to go backwards in time infinitely we would never arrive at today. It completely makes no sense.

If creation didn’t begin, there was no creation at all and without an end, there is no beginning.

Time must reset to a previous state, and my death achieves that.

So let me ask you. What is more likely better equipped to reset time? Complex life or the simple and repetitive nature of nonliving things?