The Second Greatest Political Lie

[Dot Com]

libertylaw as a source? Please tell me that is not from Liberty University (Bachmann's alma mater.)

And no, I'm not clicking on any of PoliticalSpices links and begin getting a barrage of pop-ups from t/he likes of NewsMaax & The American Spectator

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So...that's the technique they teach in government schools?
Bluff?

When you don't enough to rebut the point, claim that complaining about the source is good enough?

That must be why your educational award, the GED, is known as the 'good enough diploma.'



And....if disqualifying the source is what you do, I guess you no longer use Arabic numerals after 9/11.


Gads, you're a dunce.

Sooo, what is that source PoliticalSpice? Answer the question.

 

[PoliticalChic]

libertylaw as a source? Please tell me that is not from Liberty University (Bachmann's alma mater.)

And no, I'm not clicking on any of PoliticalSpices links and begin getting a barrage of pop-ups from t/he likes of NewsMaax & The American Spectator

.



So...that's the technique they teach in government schools?
Bluff?

When you don't enough to rebut the point, claim that complaining about the source is good enough?

That must be why your educational award, the GED, is known as the 'good enough diploma.'



And....if disqualifying the source is what you do, I guess you no longer use Arabic numerals after 9/11.


Gads, you're a dunce.

Sooo, what is that source PoliticalSpice? Answer the question.

The only question is when you will avail yourself of an education.

 

[Dot Com]

libertylaw as a source? Please tell me that is not from Liberty University (Bachmann's alma mater.)

And no, I'm not clicking on any of PoliticalSpices links and begin getting a barrage of pop-ups from t/he likes of NewsMaax & The American Spectator

.



So...that's the technique they teach in government schools?
Bluff?

When you don't enough to rebut the point, claim that complaining about the source is good enough?

That must be why your educational award, the GED, is known as the 'good enough diploma.'



And....if disqualifying the source is what you do, I guess you no longer use Arabic numerals after 9/11.


Gads, you're a dunce.

Sooo, what is that source PoliticalSpice? Answer the question.

The only question is when you will avail yourself of an education.

Sooo, your zany link IS from that zany rw *cough* "university". Thats all you had to say.

 

[Wry Catcher]

In political parlance, a lie is not just something that is not true, but something that is untrue, but serves the purpose of advancing a political agenda.


1. Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered. Georges Sorel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after. http://homepage.newschool.edu/het//profiles/sorel.htm

b. "For Sen. [Hillary] Clinton, something is true if it validates the myth of her striving and her "greatness" (her overweening ambition in other words) and only ceases to be true when it no longer serves that limitless purpose. "
The case against Hillary Clinton. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine]




2. The 'Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country, convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.' And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.




3. The "Second Greatest Lie" is also designed to benefit Leftists. It is that the political spectrum has communists on the left, and the Nazis on the right. It is a conscious and carefully crafted lie. And it is because the Left controls the schools and the media that it has been allowed to survive.

This is what a careful study of history shows:
When the worldwide recession, known as the Great Depression, caused many to believe that capitalism had failed, big government command and control economies took control, promising solutions.

The economic plans of Mussolini, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Roosevelt were all variations on the same theme.

a. Many government school grads have been trained to see FDR as a demigod.
"Comparisons of the New Deal with totalitarian ideologies were provided from all sides. A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.” Wolfgang Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.



This thread will expound on that "Second Greatest Lie."
By doing so, it will explain why Leftist government schools won't teach real history.

As usual Chick, you're right on the money, but you're preaching to the choir. Those of us on the board that know anything are aware of this. Leftwing philosophy is founded on a utopian fantasy, and built with dried up clumps of bullshit. That's why every time leftist despots acquire power they can never manage to create anything other than a dystopian hell of widespread poverty and oppression that ends in bloody conflict more often than not.

None of the bed wetters have the capacity to think. They won't read this and consider the possibility that they've been wrong. They're mindless zealots.

Well neither of you have posted anything but, "ain't it awful. As someone whose career required decision making I say to you what I said to those who complained, "don't bring me a problem, until you've thought about solutions.

What is awful about liberalism? Do you know the difference between the different branches of liberal ideology? I doubt it, both of you offer the meme that liberal and progressive thinking is harmful to the poor and minorities, even racist; has its genesis in Marxist Theory and opposes a market economy.

First describe the actions of liberals which you find offensive, and in doing so the problem liberals seek to solve. Then, and only then you will have at least thought about the issue and might have a better idea.

 

[PoliticalChic]

7. The most obvious proof that Nazis are just as much of the Left as the Soviet Communists are is in the name of their party.

". ....the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der National sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party ...."
"Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian" Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian




And this:

Nazi...national socialism....based on nationalism and/or race... Communism....international socialism.


And this:

"Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred.

A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right."
WORLD | Let's admit who we are | Marvin Olasky | July 17, 2010




Yet, in the face of what is an obvious fact, government school grads are willing to accept the propaganda that moves the Nazis from their association with Liberals and Progressives, to a totally misplaced association on the Right.

 

[Dot Com]

Another FDR thread!!! Oh goody!!!

Someone needs meds or to go back to her home country

 

[PoliticalChic]

In political parlance, a lie is not just something that is not true, but something that is untrue, but serves the purpose of advancing a political agenda.


1. Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered. Georges Sorel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after. http://homepage.newschool.edu/het//profiles/sorel.htm

b. "For Sen. [Hillary] Clinton, something is true if it validates the myth of her striving and her "greatness" (her overweening ambition in other words) and only ceases to be true when it no longer serves that limitless purpose. "
The case against Hillary Clinton. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine]




2. The 'Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country, convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.' And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.




3. The "Second Greatest Lie" is also designed to benefit Leftists. It is that the political spectrum has communists on the left, and the Nazis on the right. It is a conscious and carefully crafted lie. And it is because the Left controls the schools and the media that it has been allowed to survive.

This is what a careful study of history shows:
When the worldwide recession, known as the Great Depression, caused many to believe that capitalism had failed, big government command and control economies took control, promising solutions.

The economic plans of Mussolini, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Roosevelt were all variations on the same theme.

a. Many government school grads have been trained to see FDR as a demigod.
"Comparisons of the New Deal with totalitarian ideologies were provided from all sides. A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.” Wolfgang Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.



This thread will expound on that "Second Greatest Lie."
By doing so, it will explain why Leftist government schools won't teach real history.

As usual Chick, you're right on the money, but you're preaching to the choir. Those of us on the board that know anything are aware of this. Leftwing philosophy is founded on a utopian fantasy, and built with dried up clumps of bullshit. That's why every time leftist despots acquire power they can never manage to create anything other than a dystopian hell of widespread poverty and oppression that ends in bloody conflict more often than not.

None of the bed wetters have the capacity to think. They won't read this and consider the possibility that they've been wrong. They're mindless zealots.

Well neither of you have posted anything but, "ain't it awful. As someone whose career required decision making I say to you what I said to those who complained, "don't bring me a problem, until you've thought about solutions.

What is awful about liberalism? Do you know the difference between the different branches of liberal ideology? I doubt it, both of you offer the meme that liberal and progressive thinking is harmful to the poor and minorities, even racist; has its genesis in Marxist Theory and opposes a market economy.

First describe the actions of liberals which you find offensive, and in doing so the problem liberals seek to solve. Then, and only then you will have at least thought about the issue and might have a better idea.

I truly marvel at the number of errors you can pack into a post.


1.."Well neither of you have posted anything but, "ain't it awful."
This speaks to your lack of both comprehension,and honesty.

Documenting the close association of Liberalism and Nazism, Fascism and communism is of the highest significance.

2. "As someone whose career required decision making..."
Greeting folks as they enter Walmart is not, technically, 'decision making.'

3. "What is awful about liberalism?"
It is based on the supremacy of the collective, and the destruction of any who disagree.
In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states: “ There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”

You should read it sometime.


4. "....you offer the meme that liberal and progressive thinking is harmful to the poor and minorities, even racist; has its genesis in Marxist Theory and opposes a market economy."

The poorest and most crime ridden cities in the nation have been under the guidance of Liberals/Progressives for over half a century.

And the most popular elected Democrat in the nation has a long and unbroken history of racism.


5. Liberalism"....has its genesis in Marxist Theory and opposes a market economy."
Indeed.
Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view, and has been far more interested in fighting material inequality than tyranny, which is why Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, etc., tend to have the support of Leftists around the world.
Dennis Prager


6. "...the problem liberals seek to solve."
Liberals are impulsive, and imprudent. They believe in quick changes, and risk new abuses worse than the ‘evils’ that they would sweep away, since remedies are usually not simple. Plato said that prudence is the mark of the statesman. There should be a balance between permanence and change, while liberals see ‘progress’ as some mythical direction for society.

 

[NYcarbineer]

7. The most obvious proof that Nazis are just as much of the Left as the Soviet Communists are is in the name of their party.

". ....the word "Nazi" was an abbreviation for "der National sozialistische Deutsche Arbeiters Partei — in English translation: the National Socialist German Workers' Party ...."
"Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian" Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian




And this:

Nazi...national socialism....based on nationalism and/or race... Communism....international socialism.


And this:

"Liberals claim the center by placing socialism on the left and national socialism on the right, even though Lenin/Stalin and Hitler/other Nazis had much in common as they centralized power and preached hatred.

A more accurate spectrum would place totalitarians of many stripes on the left and defenders of religious, political, and economic freedom on the right."
WORLD | Let's admit who we are | Marvin Olasky | July 17, 2010




Yet, in the face of what is an obvious fact, government school grads are willing to accept the propaganda that moves the Nazis from their association with Liberals and Progressives, to a totally misplaced association on the Right.

If you were educable, you might learn something from this:

Right-wing socialism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[NYcarbineer]

Liberals/Progressives marched shoulder to shoulder with Nazis and Fascists.

That must be why under both of those they were killed, or forced to run for their lives.

Still unable to find a single error in any of my posts?

See if you can connect those dots.




BTW.....two totalitarian brotherhoods, Nazis and communists, also killed lots of each others members.

It merely proves the homicidal nature of every one of their iterations.



And it explains why every presidential assassin in the history of the nation has been a liberal- or has not been associated with a political outlook- none were right-wingers.

The error in your post is your claim that Liberals and Nazis are the same.

 

[NYcarbineer]

This thread peaked when PC proclaimed by inference that Ronald Reagan was a Nazi.

 

[Pete7469]

True....and I always wonder how they have time to post, with all the time they spend following the directions on shampoo bottles.

You're suggesting these moonbats practice hygiene?

 

[NYcarbineer]

True....and I always wonder how they have time to post, with all the time they spend following the directions on shampoo bottles.

You're suggesting these moonbats practice hygiene?

No she's saying she doesn't, which, given her butch haircut, is probably not entirely inappropriate.

 

[PoliticalChic]

True....and I always wonder how they have time to post, with all the time they spend following the directions on shampoo bottles.

You're suggesting these moonbats practice hygiene?

No she's saying she doesn't, which, given her butch haircut, is probably not entirely inappropriate.

Look at how I live in your imagination!

 

[PoliticalChic]

8.Although the 'Second Greatest Lie," that Nazism is right wing, Is there any logic in believing that Nazism is of the Right....???

That would mean that Nazism was a form of capitalism.


[The mistake is] "to believe that Nazism represented a form of capitalism, which is what the Communists and all other Marxists have claimed.


.... private ownership of the means of production existedin name onlyunder the Nazis and that the actual substance of ownership of the means of production resided in the German government.... it wasthe German governmentand not the nominal private owners that exercised all of thesubstantive powers of ownership: it, not the nominal private owners, decided what was to be produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was to be distributed, as well as what prices would be charged and what wages would be paid, and what dividends or other income the nominal private owners would be permitted to receive.


The position of the alleged private owners, Mises showed, was reduced essentially to that of government pensioners.


De factogovernment ownership of the means of production, as Mises termed it, was logically implied by such fundamental collectivist principles embraced by the Nazis as that the common good comes before the private good and the individual exists as a means to the ends of the State. If the individual is a means to the ends of the State, so too, of course, is his property. Just as he is owned by the State, his property is also owned by the State."
Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian




And...since the vaunted 'political spectrum places communism and socialism on the left.....

.....so, then is Nazism.

It's a law.....the transitive law.

QED.

 

[Wry Catcher]

In political parlance, a lie is not just something that is not true, but something that is untrue, but serves the purpose of advancing a political agenda.


1. Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered. Georges Sorel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after. http://homepage.newschool.edu/het//profiles/sorel.htm

b. "For Sen. [Hillary] Clinton, something is true if it validates the myth of her striving and her "greatness" (her overweening ambition in other words) and only ceases to be true when it no longer serves that limitless purpose. "
The case against Hillary Clinton. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine]




2. The 'Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country, convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.' And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.




3. The "Second Greatest Lie" is also designed to benefit Leftists. It is that the political spectrum has communists on the left, and the Nazis on the right. It is a conscious and carefully crafted lie. And it is because the Left controls the schools and the media that it has been allowed to survive.

This is what a careful study of history shows:
When the worldwide recession, known as the Great Depression, caused many to believe that capitalism had failed, big government command and control economies took control, promising solutions.

The economic plans of Mussolini, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Roosevelt were all variations on the same theme.

a. Many government school grads have been trained to see FDR as a demigod.
"Comparisons of the New Deal with totalitarian ideologies were provided from all sides. A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.” Wolfgang Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.



This thread will expound on that "Second Greatest Lie."
By doing so, it will explain why Leftist government schools won't teach real history.

As usual Chick, you're right on the money, but you're preaching to the choir. Those of us on the board that know anything are aware of this. Leftwing philosophy is founded on a utopian fantasy, and built with dried up clumps of bullshit. That's why every time leftist despots acquire power they can never manage to create anything other than a dystopian hell of widespread poverty and oppression that ends in bloody conflict more often than not.

None of the bed wetters have the capacity to think. They won't read this and consider the possibility that they've been wrong. They're mindless zealots.

Well neither of you have posted anything but, "ain't it awful. As someone whose career required decision making I say to you what I said to those who complained, "don't bring me a problem, until you've thought about solutions.

What is awful about liberalism? Do you know the difference between the different branches of liberal ideology? I doubt it, both of you offer the meme that liberal and progressive thinking is harmful to the poor and minorities, even racist; has its genesis in Marxist Theory and opposes a market economy.

First describe the actions of liberals which you find offensive, and in doing so the problem liberals seek to solve. Then, and only then you will have at least thought about the issue and might have a better idea.

I truly marvel at the number of errors you can pack into a post.


1.."Well neither of you have posted anything but, "ain't it awful."
This speaks to your lack of both comprehension,and honesty.

Documenting the close association of Liberalism and Nazism, Fascism and communism is of the highest significance.

2. "As someone whose career required decision making..."
Greeting folks as they enter Walmart is not, technically, 'decision making.'

3. "What is awful about liberalism?"
It is based on the supremacy of the collective, and the destruction of any who disagree.
In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states: “ There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”

You should read it sometime.


4. "....you offer the meme that liberal and progressive thinking is harmful to the poor and minorities, even racist; has its genesis in Marxist Theory and opposes a market economy."

The poorest and most crime ridden cities in the nation have been under the guidance of Liberals/Progressives for over half a century.

And the most popular elected Democrat in the nation has a long and unbroken history of racism.


5. Liberalism"....has its genesis in Marxist Theory and opposes a market economy."
Indeed.
Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view, and has been far more interested in fighting material inequality than tyranny, which is why Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, etc., tend to have the support of Leftists around the world.
Dennis Prager


6. "...the problem liberals seek to solve."
Liberals are impulsive, and imprudent. They believe in quick changes, and risk new abuses worse than the ‘evils’ that they would sweep away, since remedies are usually not simple. Plato said that prudence is the mark of the statesman. There should be a balance between permanence and change, while liberals see ‘progress’ as some mythical direction for society.

You are correct, Hitler's Germany and Stalin's Russia were the same, autocratic despotic regimes run by a power elite exploiting the hoi polloi - much like the Plutocracy which I and other liberal/progressives oppose and the crazy right wing in America today supports.

Most of your rebuttal, and I use that term very loosely, can be summarized as "ain't liberals awful" punctuated with a personal attack on me. That is the genre you are known for, that and attacking Western democratic systems and the intelligence of those who see you as Ms. Oz hiding behind a curtain.

 

[PoliticalChic]

In political parlance, a lie is not just something that is not true, but something that is untrue, but serves the purpose of advancing a political agenda.


1. Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered. Georges Sorel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after. http://homepage.newschool.edu/het//profiles/sorel.htm

b. "For Sen. [Hillary] Clinton, something is true if it validates the myth of her striving and her "greatness" (her overweening ambition in other words) and only ceases to be true when it no longer serves that limitless purpose. "
The case against Hillary Clinton. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine]




2. The 'Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country, convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.' And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.




3. The "Second Greatest Lie" is also designed to benefit Leftists. It is that the political spectrum has communists on the left, and the Nazis on the right. It is a conscious and carefully crafted lie. And it is because the Left controls the schools and the media that it has been allowed to survive.

This is what a careful study of history shows:
When the worldwide recession, known as the Great Depression, caused many to believe that capitalism had failed, big government command and control economies took control, promising solutions.

The economic plans of Mussolini, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Roosevelt were all variations on the same theme.

a. Many government school grads have been trained to see FDR as a demigod.
"Comparisons of the New Deal with totalitarian ideologies were provided from all sides. A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.” Wolfgang Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.



This thread will expound on that "Second Greatest Lie."
By doing so, it will explain why Leftist government schools won't teach real history.

As usual Chick, you're right on the money, but you're preaching to the choir. Those of us on the board that know anything are aware of this. Leftwing philosophy is founded on a utopian fantasy, and built with dried up clumps of bullshit. That's why every time leftist despots acquire power they can never manage to create anything other than a dystopian hell of widespread poverty and oppression that ends in bloody conflict more often than not.

None of the bed wetters have the capacity to think. They won't read this and consider the possibility that they've been wrong. They're mindless zealots.

Well neither of you have posted anything but, "ain't it awful. As someone whose career required decision making I say to you what I said to those who complained, "don't bring me a problem, until you've thought about solutions.

What is awful about liberalism? Do you know the difference between the different branches of liberal ideology? I doubt it, both of you offer the meme that liberal and progressive thinking is harmful to the poor and minorities, even racist; has its genesis in Marxist Theory and opposes a market economy.

First describe the actions of liberals which you find offensive, and in doing so the problem liberals seek to solve. Then, and only then you will have at least thought about the issue and might have a better idea.

I truly marvel at the number of errors you can pack into a post.


1.."Well neither of you have posted anything but, "ain't it awful."
This speaks to your lack of both comprehension,and honesty.

Documenting the close association of Liberalism and Nazism, Fascism and communism is of the highest significance.

2. "As someone whose career required decision making..."
Greeting folks as they enter Walmart is not, technically, 'decision making.'

3. "What is awful about liberalism?"
It is based on the supremacy of the collective, and the destruction of any who disagree.
In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states: “ There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”

You should read it sometime.


4. "....you offer the meme that liberal and progressive thinking is harmful to the poor and minorities, even racist; has its genesis in Marxist Theory and opposes a market economy."

The poorest and most crime ridden cities in the nation have been under the guidance of Liberals/Progressives for over half a century.

And the most popular elected Democrat in the nation has a long and unbroken history of racism.


5. Liberalism"....has its genesis in Marxist Theory and opposes a market economy."
Indeed.
Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view, and has been far more interested in fighting material inequality than tyranny, which is why Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, etc., tend to have the support of Leftists around the world.
Dennis Prager


6. "...the problem liberals seek to solve."
Liberals are impulsive, and imprudent. They believe in quick changes, and risk new abuses worse than the ‘evils’ that they would sweep away, since remedies are usually not simple. Plato said that prudence is the mark of the statesman. There should be a balance between permanence and change, while liberals see ‘progress’ as some mythical direction for society.

You are correct, Hitler's Germany and Stalin's Russia were the same, autocratic despotic regimes run by a power elite exploiting the hoi polloi - much like the Plutocracy which I and other liberal/progressives oppose and the crazy right wing in America today supports.

Most of your rebuttal, and I use that term very loosely, can be summarized as "ain't liberals awful" punctuated with a personal attack on me. That is the genre you are known for, that and attacking Western democratic systems and the intelligence of those who see you as Ms. Oz hiding behind a curtain.

My posts are chock full of documented, linked, sourced facts.

Facts.

I construct the thread so that they all come together to form an undeniable conclusion.


Now....why would you claim otherwise?

Oh...because you are less than honest, and happily indoctrinated.....

....in short, a Liberal.


There can be no other conclusion.

 

[Wry Catcher]

In political parlance, a lie is not just something that is not true, but something that is untrue, but serves the purpose of advancing a political agenda.


1. Georges Eugène Sorel (2 November 1847 in Cherbourg – 29 August 1922 in Boulogne-sur-Seine) was a French philosopher and theorist of revolutionary syndicalism. His notion of the power of myth in people's lives inspired Marxists and Fascists, it is, together with his defense of violence, the contribution for which he is most often remembered. Georges Sorel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

a. His identification of the need for a deliberately-conceived "myth" to sway crowds into concerted action was put to use by the Fascist and Communist movements of the 1920s and after. http://homepage.newschool.edu/het//profiles/sorel.htm

b. "For Sen. [Hillary] Clinton, something is true if it validates the myth of her striving and her "greatness" (her overweening ambition in other words) and only ceases to be true when it no longer serves that limitless purpose. "
The case against Hillary Clinton. - By Christopher Hitchens - Slate Magazine]




2. The 'Greatest Lie" is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country, convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.' And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.




3. The "Second Greatest Lie" is also designed to benefit Leftists. It is that the political spectrum has communists on the left, and the Nazis on the right. It is a conscious and carefully crafted lie. And it is because the Left controls the schools and the media that it has been allowed to survive.

This is what a careful study of history shows:
When the worldwide recession, known as the Great Depression, caused many to believe that capitalism had failed, big government command and control economies took control, promising solutions.

The economic plans of Mussolini, Adolph Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Franklin Roosevelt were all variations on the same theme.

a. Many government school grads have been trained to see FDR as a demigod.
"Comparisons of the New Deal with totalitarian ideologies were provided from all sides. A Republican senator described the NRA as having gone “too far in the Russian direction,” and a Democrat accused FDR of trying “to transplant Hitlerism to every corner of this country.” Wolfgang Schivelbusch, “Three New Deals,” p. 27.



This thread will expound on that "Second Greatest Lie."
By doing so, it will explain why Leftist government schools won't teach real history.

As usual Chick, you're right on the money, but you're preaching to the choir. Those of us on the board that know anything are aware of this. Leftwing philosophy is founded on a utopian fantasy, and built with dried up clumps of bullshit. That's why every time leftist despots acquire power they can never manage to create anything other than a dystopian hell of widespread poverty and oppression that ends in bloody conflict more often than not.

None of the bed wetters have the capacity to think. They won't read this and consider the possibility that they've been wrong. They're mindless zealots.

Well neither of you have posted anything but, "ain't it awful. As someone whose career required decision making I say to you what I said to those who complained, "don't bring me a problem, until you've thought about solutions.

What is awful about liberalism? Do you know the difference between the different branches of liberal ideology? I doubt it, both of you offer the meme that liberal and progressive thinking is harmful to the poor and minorities, even racist; has its genesis in Marxist Theory and opposes a market economy.

First describe the actions of liberals which you find offensive, and in doing so the problem liberals seek to solve. Then, and only then you will have at least thought about the issue and might have a better idea.

I truly marvel at the number of errors you can pack into a post.


1.."Well neither of you have posted anything but, "ain't it awful."
This speaks to your lack of both comprehension,and honesty.

Documenting the close association of Liberalism and Nazism, Fascism and communism is of the highest significance.

2. "As someone whose career required decision making..."
Greeting folks as they enter Walmart is not, technically, 'decision making.'

3. "What is awful about liberalism?"
It is based on the supremacy of the collective, and the destruction of any who disagree.
In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states: “ There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”

You should read it sometime.


4. "....you offer the meme that liberal and progressive thinking is harmful to the poor and minorities, even racist; has its genesis in Marxist Theory and opposes a market economy."

The poorest and most crime ridden cities in the nation have been under the guidance of Liberals/Progressives for over half a century.

And the most popular elected Democrat in the nation has a long and unbroken history of racism.


5. Liberalism"....has its genesis in Marxist Theory and opposes a market economy."
Indeed.
Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view, and has been far more interested in fighting material inequality than tyranny, which is why Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, etc., tend to have the support of Leftists around the world.
Dennis Prager


6. "...the problem liberals seek to solve."
Liberals are impulsive, and imprudent. They believe in quick changes, and risk new abuses worse than the ‘evils’ that they would sweep away, since remedies are usually not simple. Plato said that prudence is the mark of the statesman. There should be a balance between permanence and change, while liberals see ‘progress’ as some mythical direction for society.

You are correct, Hitler's Germany and Stalin's Russia were the same, autocratic despotic regimes run by a power elite exploiting the hoi polloi - much like the Plutocracy which I and other liberal/progressives oppose and the crazy right wing in America today supports.

Most of your rebuttal, and I use that term very loosely, can be summarized as "ain't liberals awful" punctuated with a personal attack on me. That is the genre you are known for, that and attacking Western democratic systems and the intelligence of those who see you as Ms. Oz hiding behind a curtain.

My posts are chock full of documented, linked, sourced facts.

Facts.

I construct the thread so that they all come together to form an undeniable conclusion.


Now....why would you claim otherwise?

Oh...because you are less than honest, and happily indoctrinated.....

....in short, a Liberal.


There can be no other conclusion.

"If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly"; see:

Danth's Law - RationalWiki

 

[PoliticalChic]

As usual Chick, you're right on the money, but you're preaching to the choir. Those of us on the board that know anything are aware of this. Leftwing philosophy is founded on a utopian fantasy, and built with dried up clumps of bullshit. That's why every time leftist despots acquire power they can never manage to create anything other than a dystopian hell of widespread poverty and oppression that ends in bloody conflict more often than not.

None of the bed wetters have the capacity to think. They won't read this and consider the possibility that they've been wrong. They're mindless zealots.

Well neither of you have posted anything but, "ain't it awful. As someone whose career required decision making I say to you what I said to those who complained, "don't bring me a problem, until you've thought about solutions.

What is awful about liberalism? Do you know the difference between the different branches of liberal ideology? I doubt it, both of you offer the meme that liberal and progressive thinking is harmful to the poor and minorities, even racist; has its genesis in Marxist Theory and opposes a market economy.

First describe the actions of liberals which you find offensive, and in doing so the problem liberals seek to solve. Then, and only then you will have at least thought about the issue and might have a better idea.

I truly marvel at the number of errors you can pack into a post.


1.."Well neither of you have posted anything but, "ain't it awful."
This speaks to your lack of both comprehension,and honesty.

Documenting the close association of Liberalism and Nazism, Fascism and communism is of the highest significance.

2. "As someone whose career required decision making..."
Greeting folks as they enter Walmart is not, technically, 'decision making.'

3. "What is awful about liberalism?"
It is based on the supremacy of the collective, and the destruction of any who disagree.
In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states: “ There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”

You should read it sometime.


4. "....you offer the meme that liberal and progressive thinking is harmful to the poor and minorities, even racist; has its genesis in Marxist Theory and opposes a market economy."

The poorest and most crime ridden cities in the nation have been under the guidance of Liberals/Progressives for over half a century.

And the most popular elected Democrat in the nation has a long and unbroken history of racism.


5. Liberalism"....has its genesis in Marxist Theory and opposes a market economy."
Indeed.
Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view, and has been far more interested in fighting material inequality than tyranny, which is why Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, etc., tend to have the support of Leftists around the world.
Dennis Prager


6. "...the problem liberals seek to solve."
Liberals are impulsive, and imprudent. They believe in quick changes, and risk new abuses worse than the ‘evils’ that they would sweep away, since remedies are usually not simple. Plato said that prudence is the mark of the statesman. There should be a balance between permanence and change, while liberals see ‘progress’ as some mythical direction for society.

You are correct, Hitler's Germany and Stalin's Russia were the same, autocratic despotic regimes run by a power elite exploiting the hoi polloi - much like the Plutocracy which I and other liberal/progressives oppose and the crazy right wing in America today supports.

Most of your rebuttal, and I use that term very loosely, can be summarized as "ain't liberals awful" punctuated with a personal attack on me. That is the genre you are known for, that and attacking Western democratic systems and the intelligence of those who see you as Ms. Oz hiding behind a curtain.

My posts are chock full of documented, linked, sourced facts.

Facts.

I construct the thread so that they all come together to form an undeniable conclusion.


Now....why would you claim otherwise?

Oh...because you are less than honest, and happily indoctrinated.....

....in short, a Liberal.


There can be no other conclusion.

"If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly"; see:

Danth's Law - RationalWiki

I simply pointed out that you denied that which is right in front of you.
Another attribute of a Liberal.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I just counted eleven links provided, and none were confronted by the Liberals who have posted in this tread.

No denials, no refutations, nothing beyond "is not, is noottttttt!"

 

[Wry Catcher]

Well neither of you have posted anything but, "ain't it awful. As someone whose career required decision making I say to you what I said to those who complained, "don't bring me a problem, until you've thought about solutions.

What is awful about liberalism? Do you know the difference between the different branches of liberal ideology? I doubt it, both of you offer the meme that liberal and progressive thinking is harmful to the poor and minorities, even racist; has its genesis in Marxist Theory and opposes a market economy.

First describe the actions of liberals which you find offensive, and in doing so the problem liberals seek to solve. Then, and only then you will have at least thought about the issue and might have a better idea.

I truly marvel at the number of errors you can pack into a post.


1.."Well neither of you have posted anything but, "ain't it awful."
This speaks to your lack of both comprehension,and honesty.

Documenting the close association of Liberalism and Nazism, Fascism and communism is of the highest significance.

2. "As someone whose career required decision making..."
Greeting folks as they enter Walmart is not, technically, 'decision making.'

3. "What is awful about liberalism?"
It is based on the supremacy of the collective, and the destruction of any who disagree.
In Thoreau’s On the duty of Civil Disobedience, he states: “ There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all of its own power and authority are derived.”

You should read it sometime.


4. "....you offer the meme that liberal and progressive thinking is harmful to the poor and minorities, even racist; has its genesis in Marxist Theory and opposes a market economy."

The poorest and most crime ridden cities in the nation have been under the guidance of Liberals/Progressives for over half a century.

And the most popular elected Democrat in the nation has a long and unbroken history of racism.


5. Liberalism"....has its genesis in Marxist Theory and opposes a market economy."
Indeed.
Every Leftist is, essentially, a Marxist…even though most eschew the title since the fall of the Soviet Union. Even so, Left-wing ideas are predicated on Marx’s materialist view, and has been far more interested in fighting material inequality than tyranny, which is why Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Ho Chi Minh, Castro, etc., tend to have the support of Leftists around the world.
Dennis Prager


6. "...the problem liberals seek to solve."
Liberals are impulsive, and imprudent. They believe in quick changes, and risk new abuses worse than the ‘evils’ that they would sweep away, since remedies are usually not simple. Plato said that prudence is the mark of the statesman. There should be a balance between permanence and change, while liberals see ‘progress’ as some mythical direction for society.

You are correct, Hitler's Germany and Stalin's Russia were the same, autocratic despotic regimes run by a power elite exploiting the hoi polloi - much like the Plutocracy which I and other liberal/progressives oppose and the crazy right wing in America today supports.

Most of your rebuttal, and I use that term very loosely, can be summarized as "ain't liberals awful" punctuated with a personal attack on me. That is the genre you are known for, that and attacking Western democratic systems and the intelligence of those who see you as Ms. Oz hiding behind a curtain.

My posts are chock full of documented, linked, sourced facts.

Facts.

I construct the thread so that they all come together to form an undeniable conclusion.


Now....why would you claim otherwise?

Oh...because you are less than honest, and happily indoctrinated.....

....in short, a Liberal.


There can be no other conclusion.

"If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly"; see:

Danth's Law - RationalWiki

I simply pointed out that you denied that which is right in front of you.
Another attribute of a Liberal.

Let's go to an authority on Liberalism, food for thought for those who actually think (my apology first to all my former, past and future CAL alumni)

Liberalism (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

Those who actually open, read and comprehend the article can see that PC and her obsequious followers don't have a clue when they demean liberals by trying to rewrite their history, evolution and ideas.