Zone1 The Second Amendment for Thee, Not for Me — by Shari Dunn

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Yep. It was racial. Now gun control is about class.

While class certainly is an element, it's still racial though.

 

[westwall]

Yep. It was racial. Now gun control is about class.

Gun control has always been about class. The New York gun laws were about keeping the Irish from having guns.

 

[OODA_Loop]

They ask where it is, I tell them shoulder holster, left side.

Ha! A shoulder holster is exactly what I would picture you with.

The most ineffective holster option besides Small of Back.

 

[OODA_Loop]

The fear of what full citizenship for Black Americans would mean—particularly the right to bear arms—was so profound that the Supreme Court gave it voice in one of the most infamously racist rulings in U.S. history: Dred Scott v. Sandford (1857).

1857?

 

[PeterPilot]

LMAO--you left out the part that democrats were the majority in the south. Democrats, throughout US history have been the party of the KKK. Democrats also are the first to call for gun regulations and restrictions---unless a democrat violates the laws that the democrats put in place. Hmmmm. What party do you align with? Need more be said?

You inject the sophistry that there is a difference between D and R. Total nonsense.

 

[White 6]

Ha! A shoulder holster is exactly what I would picture you with.

The most ineffective holster option besides Small of Back.

If you wear/carry a lot, it is all about the comfort with concealment.

 

[OODA_Loop]

If you wear/carry a lot, it is all about the comfort with concealment.

Concealed guns are not comfortable they are comforting.

Shoulder holsters are amateur hour.

 

[MisterBeale]

 

[Concerned American]

You inject the sophistry that there is a difference between D and R. Total nonsense.

If you cannot see the difference between the two parties, you are blind and really not worth any more energy. Democrat apologists pull this garbage out every time they get embarrassed by their members. Bbbbbut, Bbbbut, Bbbbut both parties do it. The public unrest, protests, murders, arsons and anarchy that has been fomented over the past eight years or so has not been from the right.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Pretti enjoyed his 2nd Amnedment freedoms stupidly.

And it cost him his life.

 

[Concerned American]

Second amendment had nothing to do with Pretti---he obstructed law enforcement--he was also carrying. Only one of those facts had to do with his demise. Stay out of law enforcement's face when they are performing their duties and you won't have a problem.

 

[MisterBeale]

Pretti enjoyed his 2nd Amnedment freedoms stupidly.

And it cost him his life.

Second amendment had nothing to do with Pretti---he obstructed law enforcement--he was also carrying. Only one of those facts had to do with his demise. Stay out of law enforcement's face when they are performing their duties and you won't have a problem.

 

[Concerned American]

You might have a sore back when you untwist yourself trying to make hay about the 2A.

 

[White 6]

Concealed guns are not comfortable they are comforting.

Shoulder holsters are amateur hour.

Nope. They are the height of comfort if carrying. When I come in, at home, if I have some small task on my way through, it is easy to forget it is even on, as the weight is toally balanced and wide soft shoulder straps perfectly balance the weight of a service weapon on one side and 2 spare mags on the other. If you are willing to spend the money, it is indeed the height of comfort carry and convenience.

 

[Mac-7]

Every time I read one of Ms. Dunn’s publications, I immediately think, “This is her best piece yet.” And every time, she proves me wrong. I love the way she hits upon so many critical elements within the subject matter and ties them all together with clarity and force.

It wasn’t until I first contemplated undergoing firearms training and getting licensed to carry myself that I learned gun control in America was originally implemented specifically to prevent Black people from taking up arms—particularly against the Klan—shortly after the Civil War. I was introduced to this history by those who supported my efforts to become armed as a means of protecting myself. One of the first resources shared with me was The Racist Roots of Gun Control by Clayton Cramer.

Only more recently did I begin to grasp the deeper implications of that history—not just how control over certain groups was enacted, but why. The motive behind the restriction of rights becomes crystal clear when viewed through the lens of fear. The fear of what full citizenship for Black Americans would mean—particularly the right to bear arms—was so profound that the Supreme Court gave it voice in one of the most infamously racist rulings in U.S. history: Dred Scott v. Sandford (1857).

The Court ruled that Black people were not citizens and therefore not entitled to constitutional protections. Chief Justice Roger Taney laid bare the real concern. If Black people were to be considered citizens, then:



Need more be said?

The Second Amendment for Thee, Not for Me – by Shari Dunn

I notice libs had to go back 150 years for something to be outraged over

 

[OODA_Loop]

Nope. They are the height of comfort if carrying. When I come in, at home, if I have some small task on my way through, it is easy to forget it is even on, as the weight is toally balanced and wide soft shoulder straps perfectly balance the weight of a service weapon on one side and 2 spare mags on the other. If you are willing to spend the money, it is indeed the height of comfort carry and convenience.

Nothing like sweeping your brachial artery when you draw, not being able to reholster with one hand, zero retention and the need to wear heavy cover garments year round.

 

[Bitterhook]

Fascinating article. I am a permitted carrier, and I do carry, concealed. In Tennessee, permitted carriers, by law have to disclose to an officer, they are carrying. When stopped for a traffic violation, I make sure license, registration and proof of insurance are out, then when Officer comes to the window, without asking, I hand him my license, my carry permit, and my retired Officer ID and inform verbally I am a permitted carrier and my weapon is in the vehicle, while keeping both hands on the top of the steering wheel. I have done this twice, once with sheriffs department, once with Tennessee Highway Patrol, and it has smoothly worked out both times. I was not that aware of trigger happy cops, especially having all the "good guy" cards. They ask where it is, I tell them shoulder holster, left side. The tell me not to touch it, and we go on with the stop. I still feel confident, here in Tennessee with the procedure, but now, in other states, not so much. I hate to say it, but in other states, while I am getting insurance and registration, I will also be unsnapping the shoulder holster, in case I get a rogue cop. I can still get shot, possibly killed, if a rogue cop attempts to draw, but unless shot in the head, I have a 50/50 chance of taking him with me. That is as fair, as it gets in these troubled times, and the dash cam tells the story if not tampered with.

It is interesting how awesome things tend to turn out when one is conscious of their surroundings and who they share them with.

Keeping both hands on the steering wheel while telling even a Texas State Trooper you have a loaded firearm in the vehicle, and asking him what he would like for you to do, will generally lead to him asking you to slowly get out of the vehicle while he retrieves it, unloads it, clears the breech, before putting the bullet back in the mag and asking you to open the trunk so he can put the mag in there, and then handing you the firearm back.

However, that isn't even necessary anymore since Texas now honors all CAC permits from other states.

 

[White 6]

Nothing like sweeping your brachial artery when you draw, not being able to reholster with one hand, zero retention and the need to wear heavy cover garments year round.

Far more people shooting themselves in the leg or foot, than the brachial artery. You see it all over YouTube, especially with weapons such as the Sig P320. I have never had an accidental fire upon drawing or re-holstering. It goes back in, easily with one hand, probably due to design and quality of the Craft rig. It does require two hands to snap the strap back in place, but for just carrying, bike riding or even jogging, the weapon stays in place, even without snapping, but I highly recommend it. If you prefer some other style of carry, fine. But, don't bother any condescension in my direction, against 47 years combined military and civilian shoulder and hip carry experience in all kinds of activity, terrain, and inside vehicle carry use. I know what works best for me.

 

[Bitterhook]

Yep. It was racial. Now gun control is about class.

Not forgetting that in some states (including mine), you can get a CAC Permit with an Honorable Discharge, DD214, and a current clean background check because you have already had government approved Small Arms Training, and it doesn't matter what color you are nor political affiliation.

Not saying that military service should be a requirement for everyone, but at least they recognize that if the government were the first folks to put a fully automatic firearm in your possession, they might be able to trust you some.

 

[Blaster]

Second amendment had nothing to do with Pretti---he obstructed law enforcement--he was also carrying. Only one of those facts had to do with his demise. Stay out of law enforcement's face when they are performing their duties and you won't have a problem.

Agreed.