The SAVE America Act is dead

[candycorn]

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Some already know where this all will land, and when.

When are you going to step in and save the day? You’ve been saying the same thing for about a decade now and all you’ve done was post on a messageboard.

 

[martybegan]

And are you okay w/a President Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez setting those bare minimum standards?

It would be congress setting them.

And if i get to the point where I am really not OK with something, that's when we go to the mattresses.

 

[MarcATL]

I think it is a shitty approach and does not in the least bit support responsible governance nor does it demonstrate they desire for the people to have much power at all, what about that?

Not bad. Not bad at all.

 

[martybegan]

Nope, national divorce.

Not there yet. A proper Article V convention could clarify a lot of things that have become muddled due to the left.

 

[JWBooth]

Not there yet. A proper Article V convention could clarify a lot of things that have become muddled due to the left.

The last time it was done the then current form of government was dissolved and the abomination we now have was instituted.

 

[martybegan]

The last time it was done the then current form of government was dissolved and the abomination we now have was instituted.
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The Articles of Confederation didn't have a method of calling for an Article V convention like the Constitution has built into it.

 

[JWBooth]

The Articles of Confederation didn't have a method of calling for an Article V convention like the Constitution has built into it.

Didn't slow them down a bit. Nothing prevents the same from happening again. When the convention was called it had a limited mandate which immediately went out the window.

 

[pknopp]

Only five states Arizona, Kansas, , New Hampshire, Ohio, and Wyoming have implemented laws that require proof of citizenship.

So you can't/won't answer.

 

[martybegan]

Didn't slow them down a bit. Nothing prevents the same from happening again. When the convention was called it had a limited mandate which immediately went out the window.

Because the Articles were an inherently flawed document to start with.

Sorry, but I don't believe the Constitution is an inherently flawed document.

 

[JWBooth]

Because the Articles were an inherently flawed document to start with.

Sorry, but I don't believe the Constitution is an inherently flawed document.

Then everything is copacetic and nothing need be done.

 

[martybegan]

Then everything is copacetic.

No it isn't. Forgive me if I don't go with the Aristotelian logic of suffer as is,or burn it down.

 

[Bitterhook]

The last time it was done the then current form of government was dissolved and the abomination we now have was instituted.
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That's the way to burn everything to ground with some Spooner.

 

[MagicMike]

And you know this how, by your FEELZ? It most certainly DOES happen. What is not known is the extent to which it happens.

Prove that it happens, or are you just basing this claim on your FEELZ?

 

[JWBooth]

No it isn't. Forgive me if I don't go with the Aristotelian logic of suffer as is,or burn it down.

You want to hand over to opportunists the ability to grant themselves unchecked power.

 

[Bitterhook]

Didn't slow them down a bit. Nothing prevents the same from happening again. When the convention was called it had a limited mandate which immediately went out the window.

Spooner was just in tune with the fact that no matter how noble one's intentions may or how perfect they may create something, that mankind corrupts everything it touches the moment it comes into existence.

However, James Madison, the "The Father of the Constitution" knew that and also said, "If men were angels, no government would be necessary."

 

[martybegan]

You want to hand over to opportunists the ability to grant themselves unchecked power.

I want to go with that option before saying we have to give it all up. If they take too much, then it's time to go to the mattresses now instead of 30 years from now.

 

[dblack]

You want to hand over to opportunists the ability to grant themselves unchecked power.

I want to go with that option before saying we have to give it all up.

That IS giving it all up.

 

[Oddball]

Lurch Thune and Pam Blondi are neck-and-neck in the battle to secure the championship belt for the biggest moral coward in the entire District of Criminals.

 

[martybegan]

That IS giving it all up.

I disagree.

 

[Oddball]

However, James Madison, the "The Father of the Constitution" knew that and also said, "If men were angels, no government would be necessary."

A circular argument is there ever was one...