The SAT is slowly being eliminated

[IM2]

Hopefully we will soon end the stupid racist argument about SAT scores. Already over 900 colleges have made these tests optional in regards to admittance, now the University of California Berkeley is eliminating ACT and SAT tests as a criteria for admission. High school GPA is and should be THE main criteria.

University of California Will End Use of SAT and ACT in Admissions

The University of California on Thursday voted to phase out the SAT and ACT as requirements to apply to its system of 10 schools, which include some of the nation’s most popular campuses, in a decision with major implications for the use of standardized tests in college admissions.
Given the size and influence of the California system, whose marquee schools include the University of California, Los Angeles, and the University of California, Berkeley, the move is expected to accelerate the momentum of American colleges away from the tests, amid charges that they are unfair to poor, black and Hispanic students.

The school system’s action, which follows many small liberal arts colleges, comes as the ACT and the College Board, a nonprofit organization that administers the SAT, are suffering financially from the cancellation of test dates during the coronavirus pandemic. One critic of the industry estimated that the College Board had lost $45 million in revenue this spring.

Although many students will likely continue to take the exams as long as they are required by highly competitive schools like Stanford and those in the Ivy League, California’s decision will clearly be a blow to the image of the tests, and experts said it could tip the balance for other schools in deciding whether to eliminate them.

University of California Will End Use of SAT and ACT in Admissions (Published 2020)

The change is expected to accelerate the momentum of American colleges away from the tests, amid concern that they are unfair to poor, black and Hispanic students.

www.nytimes.com

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Hopefully we will soon end the stupid racist argument about SAT scores. Already over 900 colleges have made these tests optional in regards to admittance, now the University of California Berkeley is eliminating ACT and SAT tests as a criteria for admission. High school GPA is and should be THE main criteria.

University of California Will End Use of SAT and ACT in Admissions

The University of California on Thursday voted to phase out the SAT and ACT as requirements to apply to its system of 10 schools, which include some of the nation’s most popular campuses, in a decision with major implications for the use of standardized tests in college admissions.
Given the size and influence of the California system, whose marquee schools include the University of California, Los Angeles, and the University of California, Berkeley, the move is expected to accelerate the momentum of American colleges away from the tests, amid charges that they are unfair to poor, black and Hispanic students.

The school system’s action, which follows many small liberal arts colleges, comes as the ACT and the College Board, a nonprofit organization that administers the SAT, are suffering financially from the cancellation of test dates during the coronavirus pandemic. One critic of the industry estimated that the College Board had lost $45 million in revenue this spring.

Although many students will likely continue to take the exams as long as they are required by highly competitive schools like Stanford and those in the Ivy League, California’s decision will clearly be a blow to the image of the tests, and experts said it could tip the balance for other schools in deciding whether to eliminate them.

University of California Will End Use of SAT and ACT in Admissions (Published 2020)

The change is expected to accelerate the momentum of American colleges away from the tests, amid concern that they are unfair to poor, black and Hispanic students.

www.nytimes.com

Why is the SAT "Racist"? Is throwing a basketball into a hoop "Racist"?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

This year because schools were closed all high school graduates get a 4.0 gpa. There are some who want to make this permanent. Every HS graduate gets a 4.0 . This should help ease college admissions.

 

[IM2]

Hopefully we will soon end the stupid racist argument about SAT scores. Already over 900 colleges have made these tests optional in regards to admittance, now the University of California Berkeley is eliminating ACT and SAT tests as a criteria for admission. High school GPA is and should be THE main criteria.

University of California Will End Use of SAT and ACT in Admissions

The University of California on Thursday voted to phase out the SAT and ACT as requirements to apply to its system of 10 schools, which include some of the nation’s most popular campuses, in a decision with major implications for the use of standardized tests in college admissions.
Given the size and influence of the California system, whose marquee schools include the University of California, Los Angeles, and the University of California, Berkeley, the move is expected to accelerate the momentum of American colleges away from the tests, amid charges that they are unfair to poor, black and Hispanic students.

The school system’s action, which follows many small liberal arts colleges, comes as the ACT and the College Board, a nonprofit organization that administers the SAT, are suffering financially from the cancellation of test dates during the coronavirus pandemic. One critic of the industry estimated that the College Board had lost $45 million in revenue this spring.

Although many students will likely continue to take the exams as long as they are required by highly competitive schools like Stanford and those in the Ivy League, California’s decision will clearly be a blow to the image of the tests, and experts said it could tip the balance for other schools in deciding whether to eliminate them.

University of California Will End Use of SAT and ACT in Admissions (Published 2020)

The change is expected to accelerate the momentum of American colleges away from the tests, amid concern that they are unfair to poor, black and Hispanic students.

www.nytimes.com

Why is the SAT "Racist"? Is throwing a basketball into a hoop "Racist"?

Go look for the origins of the test and the name Madison Grant and maybe you'll understand.

 

[IM2]

This year because schools were closed all high school graduates get a 4.0 gpa. There are some who want to make this permanent. Every HS graduate gets a 4.0 . This should help ease college admissions.

Yeah right.

 

[Dekster]

Hopefully we will soon end the stupid racist argument about SAT scores. Already over 900 colleges have made these tests optional in regards to admittance, now the University of California Berkeley is eliminating ACT and SAT tests as a criteria for admission. High school GPA is and should be THE main criteria.

University of California Will End Use of SAT and ACT in Admissions

The University of California on Thursday voted to phase out the SAT and ACT as requirements to apply to its system of 10 schools, which include some of the nation’s most popular campuses, in a decision with major implications for the use of standardized tests in college admissions.
Given the size and influence of the California system, whose marquee schools include the University of California, Los Angeles, and the University of California, Berkeley, the move is expected to accelerate the momentum of American colleges away from the tests, amid charges that they are unfair to poor, black and Hispanic students.

The school system’s action, which follows many small liberal arts colleges, comes as the ACT and the College Board, a nonprofit organization that administers the SAT, are suffering financially from the cancellation of test dates during the coronavirus pandemic. One critic of the industry estimated that the College Board had lost $45 million in revenue this spring.

Although many students will likely continue to take the exams as long as they are required by highly competitive schools like Stanford and those in the Ivy League, California’s decision will clearly be a blow to the image of the tests, and experts said it could tip the balance for other schools in deciding whether to eliminate them.

University of California Will End Use of SAT and ACT in Admissions (Published 2020)

The change is expected to accelerate the momentum of American colleges away from the tests, amid concern that they are unfair to poor, black and Hispanic students.

www.nytimes.com

Why is the SAT "Racist"? Is throwing a basketball into a hoop "Racist"?

I am fine with ending SAT's, etc. That said, to answer your question, it is believed by some that it is racist because it uses words and comparisons that black people might not be able to relate to. To use your phrase, a question like "hand is to glove as:" Basketball is to hoop is something they may relate to; boot is to ski is something they are less likely to relate to; sail is to mast is something even fewer could relate to.

 

[Polishprince]

Hopefully we will soon end the stupid racist argument about SAT scores. Already over 900 colleges have made these tests optional in regards to admittance, now the University of California Berkeley is eliminating ACT and SAT tests as a criteria for admission. High school GPA is and should be THE main criteria.

University of California Will End Use of SAT and ACT in Admissions

The University of California on Thursday voted to phase out the SAT and ACT as requirements to apply to its system of 10 schools, which include some of the nation’s most popular campuses, in a decision with major implications for the use of standardized tests in college admissions.
Given the size and influence of the California system, whose marquee schools include the University of California, Los Angeles, and the University of California, Berkeley, the move is expected to accelerate the momentum of American colleges away from the tests, amid charges that they are unfair to poor, black and Hispanic students.

The school system’s action, which follows many small liberal arts colleges, comes as the ACT and the College Board, a nonprofit organization that administers the SAT, are suffering financially from the cancellation of test dates during the coronavirus pandemic. One critic of the industry estimated that the College Board had lost $45 million in revenue this spring.

Although many students will likely continue to take the exams as long as they are required by highly competitive schools like Stanford and those in the Ivy League, California’s decision will clearly be a blow to the image of the tests, and experts said it could tip the balance for other schools in deciding whether to eliminate them.

University of California Will End Use of SAT and ACT in Admissions (Published 2020)

The change is expected to accelerate the momentum of American colleges away from the tests, amid concern that they are unfair to poor, black and Hispanic students.

www.nytimes.com

"SAT" stand for "Scholastic Aptitude Test", and that is what is purports to measure. Not every high school has the same scholastic standards, or the same grading standards. So how is "GPA" a relevant standard to compare students from Inner city Hell Holes, rural one room schools, homeschooled students, snooty suburban schools, even snootier boarding schools and Catholic prep school kids? Doesn't make any sense- wouldn't even a kid that just got by at Punahou School be better prepared for college than the top students at a public ghetto high school, where the kids often get shivved for their lunch money and deserve a medal for that? SAT measures aptitude not bravery.

 

[there4eyeM]

So we frustrate the gifted by slowing them down by the lesser and frustrate the lesser by grouping them in with the gifted.
Is there any system for selection that does not "discriminate" in order to identify differing capacities?

 

[IM2]

Hopefully we will soon end the stupid racist argument about SAT scores. Already over 900 colleges have made these tests optional in regards to admittance, now the University of California Berkeley is eliminating ACT and SAT tests as a criteria for admission. High school GPA is and should be THE main criteria.

University of California Will End Use of SAT and ACT in Admissions

The University of California on Thursday voted to phase out the SAT and ACT as requirements to apply to its system of 10 schools, which include some of the nation’s most popular campuses, in a decision with major implications for the use of standardized tests in college admissions.
Given the size and influence of the California system, whose marquee schools include the University of California, Los Angeles, and the University of California, Berkeley, the move is expected to accelerate the momentum of American colleges away from the tests, amid charges that they are unfair to poor, black and Hispanic students.

The school system’s action, which follows many small liberal arts colleges, comes as the ACT and the College Board, a nonprofit organization that administers the SAT, are suffering financially from the cancellation of test dates during the coronavirus pandemic. One critic of the industry estimated that the College Board had lost $45 million in revenue this spring.

Although many students will likely continue to take the exams as long as they are required by highly competitive schools like Stanford and those in the Ivy League, California’s decision will clearly be a blow to the image of the tests, and experts said it could tip the balance for other schools in deciding whether to eliminate them.

University of California Will End Use of SAT and ACT in Admissions (Published 2020)

The change is expected to accelerate the momentum of American colleges away from the tests, amid concern that they are unfair to poor, black and Hispanic students.

www.nytimes.com

"SAT" stand for "Scholastic Aptitude Test", and that is what is purports to measure. Not every high school has the same scholastic standards, or the same grading standards. So how is "GPA" a relevant standard to compare students from Inner city Hell Holes, rural one room schools, homeschooled students, snooty suburban schools, even snootier boarding schools and Catholic prep school kids? Doesn't make any sense- wouldn't even a kid that just got by at Punahou School be better prepared for college than the top students at a public ghetto high school, where the kids often get shivved for their lunch money and deserve a medal for that? SAT measures aptitude not bravery.

The tests don't measure anything but what you remember from 8 am until noon on a Saturday. That's why educators are making it optional and in the case of the OP, eliminating it altogether.

 

[IM2]

So we frustrate the gifted by slowing them down by the lesser and frustrate the lesser by grouping them in with the gifted.
Is there any system for selection that does not "discriminate" in order to identify differing capacities?

You don't frustrate anyone since students of varying levels have been sitting in classrooms together for years.

 

[there4eyeM]

So we frustrate the gifted by slowing them down by the lesser and frustrate the lesser by grouping them in with the gifted.
Is there any system for selection that does not "discriminate" in order to identify differing capacities?

You don't frustrate anyone since students of varying levels have been sitting in classrooms together for years.

I remember. Frustration played a big part. Where were you?

 

[Muhammed]

Now they'll need remedial reading and math classes in colleges.

 

[there4eyeM]

Now they'll need remedial reading and math classes in colleges.

All the more money for 'professors'.

 

[MarathonMike]

How are schools going to differentiate freshman applicants? Maybe each college will have their own test.

 

[Polishprince]

Hopefully we will soon end the stupid racist argument about SAT scores. Already over 900 colleges have made these tests optional in regards to admittance, now the University of California Berkeley is eliminating ACT and SAT tests as a criteria for admission. High school GPA is and should be THE main criteria.

University of California Will End Use of SAT and ACT in Admissions

The University of California on Thursday voted to phase out the SAT and ACT as requirements to apply to its system of 10 schools, which include some of the nation’s most popular campuses, in a decision with major implications for the use of standardized tests in college admissions.
Given the size and influence of the California system, whose marquee schools include the University of California, Los Angeles, and the University of California, Berkeley, the move is expected to accelerate the momentum of American colleges away from the tests, amid charges that they are unfair to poor, black and Hispanic students.

The school system’s action, which follows many small liberal arts colleges, comes as the ACT and the College Board, a nonprofit organization that administers the SAT, are suffering financially from the cancellation of test dates during the coronavirus pandemic. One critic of the industry estimated that the College Board had lost $45 million in revenue this spring.

Although many students will likely continue to take the exams as long as they are required by highly competitive schools like Stanford and those in the Ivy League, California’s decision will clearly be a blow to the image of the tests, and experts said it could tip the balance for other schools in deciding whether to eliminate them.

University of California Will End Use of SAT and ACT in Admissions (Published 2020)

The change is expected to accelerate the momentum of American colleges away from the tests, amid concern that they are unfair to poor, black and Hispanic students.

www.nytimes.com

"SAT" stand for "Scholastic Aptitude Test", and that is what is purports to measure. Not every high school has the same scholastic standards, or the same grading standards. So how is "GPA" a relevant standard to compare students from Inner city Hell Holes, rural one room schools, homeschooled students, snooty suburban schools, even snootier boarding schools and Catholic prep school kids? Doesn't make any sense- wouldn't even a kid that just got by at Punahou School be better prepared for college than the top students at a public ghetto high school, where the kids often get shivved for their lunch money and deserve a medal for that? SAT measures aptitude not bravery.

The tests don't measure anything but what you remember from 8 am until noon on a Saturday. That's why educators are making it optional and in the case of the OP, eliminating it altogether.

So how would you compare kids from different backgrounds? GPA is sort of stupid as not all kids are taught the same thing is high school

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

If you can't answer the questions, of course you'd want the test gone.

 

[Votto]

Hopefully we will soon end the stupid racist argument about SAT scores. Already over 900 colleges have made these tests optional in regards to admittance, now the University of California Berkeley is eliminating ACT and SAT tests as a criteria for admission. High school GPA is and should be THE main criteria.

University of California Will End Use of SAT and ACT in Admissions

The University of California on Thursday voted to phase out the SAT and ACT as requirements to apply to its system of 10 schools, which include some of the nation’s most popular campuses, in a decision with major implications for the use of standardized tests in college admissions.
Given the size and influence of the California system, whose marquee schools include the University of California, Los Angeles, and the University of California, Berkeley, the move is expected to accelerate the momentum of American colleges away from the tests, amid charges that they are unfair to poor, black and Hispanic students.

The school system’s action, which follows many small liberal arts colleges, comes as the ACT and the College Board, a nonprofit organization that administers the SAT, are suffering financially from the cancellation of test dates during the coronavirus pandemic. One critic of the industry estimated that the College Board had lost $45 million in revenue this spring.

Although many students will likely continue to take the exams as long as they are required by highly competitive schools like Stanford and those in the Ivy League, California’s decision will clearly be a blow to the image of the tests, and experts said it could tip the balance for other schools in deciding whether to eliminate them.

University of California Will End Use of SAT and ACT in Admissions (Published 2020)

The change is expected to accelerate the momentum of American colleges away from the tests, amid concern that they are unfair to poor, black and Hispanic students.

www.nytimes.com

Why is the SAT "Racist"? Is throwing a basketball into a hoop "Racist"?

I have to say, I agree with IM.

I mean, have you read some of the questions?

1. In your neighborhood, how many bars did your mama have on the windows. Now subtract that number by 8 and what number do you get?

a) Fo

b) Tree

c) To

c) Neither. Our neighborhood exuded safety at all times and no bars were needed.

2. What is better to eat?

a) Fried chicken

b) Greens

c) Lobster with cavier. And if the later, is cavier spelled correctly?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So we frustrate the gifted by slowing them down by the lesser and frustrate the lesser by grouping them in with the gifted.
Is there any system for selection that does not "discriminate" in order to identify differing capacities?

You don't frustrate anyone since students of varying levels have been sitting in classrooms together for years.

But you frustrate Asians from playing in the NBA, right homie?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I don't know about current standardized testing, but I do know that IQ testing was created for racist results by an overt racist. They deliberately asked questions that require a certain familiarity with topics most black or poor folks would not have.

I can't say the same about SATs and ACTs, because I just don't know, but there is a DOCUMENTED history of standardized testing being purposefully written to favor rich kids over poor kids, at a minimum.

.

 

[there4eyeM]

Modern IQ tests are remarkably accurate indicators of an individual's life.
What this means becomes the problem. Some want to make it seem that it makes people "lower" or "higher" on some kind of existential level. That is inhuman and absurd.
There are and always have been a small sector of the human population that has a greater difference in IQ from everyone else than the average human has from a chimp. Of course they will be the ones to 'catch on' before the rest do. Of course, being human, they will turn this to their advantage. Knowing about this and what IQ means will help them and the rest of their brothers and sisters understand the whole picture.
We are all in this together. We take care of those who truly need help. We adopt abandoned children.
It is the duty of everyone over median IQ to see to it that the High do not exploit the more modest.
As things stand now, if there is any real discrimination in the world, it is the utter contempt of everyone else on the part of those intelligent enough to manipulate politics so has to hold the power.
There is nothing wrong in having an 80 IQ. It does not make one subhuman. What is subhuman is using the "80"s for the benefit of the very small percent on the other end of the scale.