The Rise of a New Black Conservative Movement

[WillowTree]

Food stamp president: Enrollment up 70 percent under Obama

Enrollment in the food stamp program — officially the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program — has soared by 70 percent in the years since President Obama first took office, a new report finds.

www.washingtontimes.com

This does not sound like a stunning success to me!

Did you look at the unemployment statistics during the same time frame, or any economic indicator at all? It is in fact a success, because it put cash assistance into the pockets of needy Americans at a time when the whole country was hurting economically. Something that the right hates with a white hot rage. Giving cash to the poor.
The right will give billions to corporations to distribute to the shareholders, but not one thin dime to the people hurt most by their economic stupidity.

It took cash from working Americcans and gave it to those who did not work. Why would I look at the unemployment stats when the liberals assure us Obummet’s economy was an unmitigated success? The question is if it was so successful why did food stamp usage skyrocket? Got it now dumbass?

Food stamps skyrocketed and stay skyrocketed because of Boosh LOL. All things bad- Bush, Trump. All things good that Bush and Trump did - Obama. Obama’s level of accountability: 0.

The economy was dead when Obama took over, the food stamps came as a result of that.

But they didn’t go down during his term dumb ass they rose by 70%.

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Prestigious Study PROVES That Republicans Hold Blame For Sluggish Economy (STATS)

However, a new study by the Economic Policy Institute shows that it was GOP obstructionism, not any policy failure by the Obama administration, that is responsible for the slowing-down of economic recovery. According to the report, the stall can be directly attributed to:

‘THE LACKLUSTER PACE OF RECOVERY ON REPUBLICAN-LED BUDGET CUTS IN 2011 FOLLOWING THE ROW OVER THE US DEBT CEILING, THE UNWILLINGNESS OF LOCAL OFFICIALS TO SPEND MONEY WHEN REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS WERE ADVOCATING CUTS IN SPENDING, AND THE REFUSAL TO EXPAND MEDICAID IN 19 STATES.’

Because GOP elected officials obstructed any spending that would aid in the recovery of the economy, they are now able to blame President Obama for the slow growth of economic recovery. Never mind the fact that the country is no longer in an economic freefall after President Obama and a Democratic-led Congress rescued the auto industry, reduced unemployment down to just 5 percent, shrunk the size of the deficit, and increased the GDP.

Prestigious Study PROVES That Republicans Hold Blame For Sluggish Economy (STATS)

Donald Trump loves to say that the country's currently slow economic recovery is the fault of President Obama, but who's really to blame?

bipartisanreport.com

But you insist it was Obama who had the best economy but if this is true why did food stamp usage go up so dramatically. Can you answer that fucking question or not Mr. two time college graduate.

 

[Mac1958]

“Racism” is such a broadly used term and interpreted many different ways today.

Yep.

The Left has badly overused the word, just as the Right has with "socialism".

Now they don't have the same power they once had.

 

[IM2]

This is 2020. Right?

And here comes the teflon history.

Supreme Court Rules on Segregated Housing, Attacking Institutional Racism

Rick Cohen
June 26, 2015

Supreme Court Rules on Segregated Housing, Attacking Institutional Racism - Non Profit News | Nonprofit Quarterly

The U.S. Supreme Court affirmed the importance of using the Fair Housing Act to address housing discrimination that may be the result of institutional or structural racism—even if the policies creating racially disparate housing conditions were designed without intent of racial bias.

nonprofitquarterly.org

 

[Leo123]

Republicans are the ones with no message for blacks

The MESSAGE is for ALL human beings. You just cant see beyond your own obsession with skin color

Yes, and Santa Claus will bring toys to all of the good little girls and boys, so you better be good.

Next you'll be telling us that there is no such thing as "white privilege". The USA is one of the only 2 nations in the first world to spend less month on educating the children of the poor than the children of the rich. Where "legacy enrollments" ensure the child of rich white folks get first crack at the best schools, and the children of the poor get the least access. Where your zip code determines your health, your education and your future.

The Pilgrims fled Europe to escape the class system, the endless wars, and to have freedom of religion. The Founding Fathers were determined that America be a country with no class system, where all men were created equal. But today's Republican Party has completely bought into a race based class system where white are always on top.

The extreme right's obsession with "relacement", with limiting non-white immigration, with supressing the non-white vote, is all based on the racist ideas that non-whites are "inferior" and "lazy", and they come out with all of these facts and figures which prove white people are smarter, more industrious, and better financial managers than non-whites. Hence the "Democratic run shitholes".

All these studies really show is the extent and severity of the impact of systemic racism in American economic statistics. Reagan put an end to the War on Poverty not because it was failing, but because it was WORKING. Women and people of colour were rising up out of poverty and competing with white males for good jobs. Can't have white people getting aced out by smarter, harder working minorities!! So Ronnie shut down anything that might help the poor succeed and villified them as "Welfare Queens".

And the right has been parrotting these lies ever since.

"White Privilege is a racist term made up by racist Democrats who are actually the real racists. After all, they kept slaves until the Civil War then, when they got nailed for it they suddenly switched to 'supporting' blacks by offering them abortion in an effort to limit their procreation. Then they claimed to be 'helping' blacks by throwing money at them an basically incarcerating them in high rise 'projects.' BTW no one is obsessed with 'replacement' of more of one race. If there is any systematic racism it is a Marxist policy called "affirmative action." Sorry, I completely reject your anti-American screed.

 

[IM2]

“Racism” is such a broadly used term and interpreted many different ways today.

Yep.

The Left has badly overused the word, just as the Right has with "socialism".

Now they don't have the same power they once had.

Wrong. And the Supreme Court says you are wrong.

Supreme Court Rules on Segregated Housing, Attacking Institutional Racism - Non Profit News | Nonprofit Quarterly

The U.S. Supreme Court affirmed the importance of using the Fair Housing Act to address housing discrimination that may be the result of institutional or structural racism—even if the policies creating racially disparate housing conditions were designed without intent of racial bias.

nonprofitquarterly.org

 

[Mac1958]

“Racism” is such a broadly used term and interpreted many different ways today.

Yep.

The Left has badly overused the word, just as the Right has with "socialism".

Now they don't have the same power they once had.

Wrong. And the Supreme Court says you are wrong.

Supreme Court Rules on Segregated Housing, Attacking Institutional Racism - Non Profit News | Nonprofit Quarterly

The U.S. Supreme Court affirmed the importance of using the Fair Housing Act to address housing discrimination that may be the result of institutional or structural racism—even if the policies creating racially disparate housing conditions were designed without intent of racial bias.

nonprofitquarterly.org

What does that have to do with my point?

 

[IM2]

Republicans are the ones with no message for blacks

The MESSAGE is for ALL human beings. You just cant see beyond your own obsession with skin color

Yes, and Santa Claus will bring toys to all of the good little girls and boys, so you better be good.

Next you'll be telling us that there is no such thing as "white privilege". The USA is one of the only 2 nations in the first world to spend less month on educating the children of the poor than the children of the rich. Where "legacy enrollments" ensure the child of rich white folks get first crack at the best schools, and the children of the poor get the least access. Where your zip code determines your health, your education and your future.

The Pilgrims fled Europe to escape the class system, the endless wars, and to have freedom of religion. The Founding Fathers were determined that America be a country with no class system, where all men were created equal. But today's Republican Party has completely bought into a race based class system where white are always on top.

The extreme right's obsession with "relacement", with limiting non-white immigration, with supressing the non-white vote, is all based on the racist ideas that non-whites are "inferior" and "lazy", and they come out with all of these facts and figures which prove white people are smarter, more industrious, and better financial managers than non-whites. Hence the "Democratic run shitholes".

All these studies really show is the extent and severity of the impact of systemic racism in American economic statistics. Reagan put an end to the War on Poverty not because it was failing, but because it was WORKING. Women and people of colour were rising up out of poverty and competing with white males for good jobs. Can't have white people getting aced out by smarter, harder working minorities!! So Ronnie shut down anything that might help the poor succeed and villified them as "Welfare Queens".

And the right has been parrotting these lies ever since.

"White Privilege is a racist term made up by racist Democrats who are actually the real racists. After all, they kept slaves until the Civil War then, when they got nailed for it they suddenly switched to 'supporting' blacks by offering them abortion in an effort to limit their procreation. Then they claimed to be 'helping' blacks by throwing money at them an basically incarcerating them in high rise 'projects.' BTW no one is obsessed with 'replacement' of more of one race. If there is any systematic racism it is a Marxist policy called "affirmative action." Sorry, I completely reject your anti-American screed.

She is right.

 

[IM2]

“Racism” is such a broadly used term and interpreted many different ways today.

Yep.

The Left has badly overused the word, just as the Right has with "socialism".

Now they don't have the same power they once had.

Wrong. And the Supreme Court says you are wrong.

Supreme Court Rules on Segregated Housing, Attacking Institutional Racism - Non Profit News | Nonprofit Quarterly

The U.S. Supreme Court affirmed the importance of using the Fair Housing Act to address housing discrimination that may be the result of institutional or structural racism—even if the policies creating racially disparate housing conditions were designed without intent of racial bias.

nonprofitquarterly.org

What does that have to do with my point?

It shows that your opinon on this matter has no merit when the supreme court renders an opinon that basically says institutional racism is still a problem today.

 

[Mac1958]

“Racism” is such a broadly used term and interpreted many different ways today.

Yep.

The Left has badly overused the word, just as the Right has with "socialism".

Now they don't have the same power they once had.

Wrong. And the Supreme Court says you are wrong.

Supreme Court Rules on Segregated Housing, Attacking Institutional Racism - Non Profit News | Nonprofit Quarterly

The U.S. Supreme Court affirmed the importance of using the Fair Housing Act to address housing discrimination that may be the result of institutional or structural racism—even if the policies creating racially disparate housing conditions were designed without intent of racial bias.

nonprofitquarterly.org

What does that have to do with my point?

It shows that your opinon on this matter has no merit when the supreme court renders an opinon that basically says institutional racism is still a problem today.

I didn't say that institutional racism is not still a problem.

I didn't say that OTHER racism is not still a problem.

Maybe calm down and read what I actually DID say.

 

[IM2]

Food stamp president: Enrollment up 70 percent under Obama

Enrollment in the food stamp program — officially the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program — has soared by 70 percent in the years since President Obama first took office, a new report finds.

www.washingtontimes.com

This does not sound like a stunning success to me!

Did you look at the unemployment statistics during the same time frame, or any economic indicator at all? It is in fact a success, because it put cash assistance into the pockets of needy Americans at a time when the whole country was hurting economically. Something that the right hates with a white hot rage. Giving cash to the poor.
The right will give billions to corporations to distribute to the shareholders, but not one thin dime to the people hurt most by their economic stupidity.

It took cash from working Americcans and gave it to those who did not work. Why would I look at the unemployment stats when the liberals assure us Obummet’s economy was an unmitigated success? The question is if it was so successful why did food stamp usage skyrocket? Got it now dumbass?

Food stamps skyrocketed and stay skyrocketed because of Boosh LOL. All things bad- Bush, Trump. All things good that Bush and Trump did - Obama. Obama’s level of accountability: 0.

The economy was dead when Obama took over, the food stamps came as a result of that.

No question Obama inherited a poor economy just like Bush and Clinton did. Bad economies impact all Presidents at different times of their term(s). I judge a President on the policies they pursue to expedite recovery. Expeditious economic recovery was not a priority for Obama. Blaming Bush was easier to free him up to pursue policies that rewarded friends first such as healthcare and environmentalist corporate cronies.

From an economic policy perspective, what specific policies did Obama pursue that empirically resulted in a positive impact for the US economy? Blaming Bush and Trump are not policies....

Which bush had a bad economy? Expeditious recovery? According to the study I posted republicans slowed down the recovery because of their obstruction. Trump was handed a growing health economy, that is a fact and you have undoubtedly been shown on multiple occasions the things Obama did. I am tired of debating racists WHO HAVE CHOSEN to refuse any credit be given to Obama while crediting Trump for turning around the economy almost from the moment he took office. So you go look for what Obama d8id since you seem unable to remember, but you can remember any lie trump makes up about him

Willow tree,.

I'm not going to argue about food stamps when the country faced a depression and ended up with over a decade of job growth which is a record . And trump did not create that record.

 

[IM2]

“Racism” is such a broadly used term and interpreted many different ways today.

Yep.

The Left has badly overused the word, just as the Right has with "socialism".

Now they don't have the same power they once had.

Wrong. And the Supreme Court says you are wrong.

Supreme Court Rules on Segregated Housing, Attacking Institutional Racism - Non Profit News | Nonprofit Quarterly

The U.S. Supreme Court affirmed the importance of using the Fair Housing Act to address housing discrimination that may be the result of institutional or structural racism—even if the policies creating racially disparate housing conditions were designed without intent of racial bias.

nonprofitquarterly.org

What does that have to do with my point?

It shows that your opinon on this matter has no merit when the supreme court renders an opinon that basically says institutional racism is still a problem today.

I didn't say that institutional racism is not still a problem.

I didn't say that OTHER racism is not still a problem.

Maybe calm down and read what I actually DID say.

I know what you said. That's why I said what I did.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Republicans are the ones with no message for blacks

The MESSAGE is for ALL human beings. You just cant see beyond your own obsession with skin color

Yes, and Santa Claus will bring toys to all of the good little girls and boys, so you better be good.

Next you'll be telling us that there is no such thing as "white privilege". The USA is one of the only 2 nations in the first world to spend less month on educating the children of the poor than the children of the rich. Where "legacy enrollments" ensure the child of rich white folks get first crack at the best schools, and the children of the poor get the least access. Where your zip code determines your health, your education and your future.

The Pilgrims fled Europe to escape the class system, the endless wars, and to have freedom of religion. The Founding Fathers were determined that America be a country with no class system, where all men were created equal. But today's Republican Party has completely bought into a race based class system where white are always on top.

The extreme right's obsession with "relacement", with limiting non-white immigration, with supressing the non-white vote, is all based on the racist ideas that non-whites are "inferior" and "lazy", and they come out with all of these facts and figures which prove white people are smarter, more industrious, and better financial managers than non-whites. Hence the "Democratic run shitholes".

All these studies really show is the extent and severity of the impact of systemic racism in American economic statistics. Reagan put an end to the War on Poverty not because it was failing, but because it was WORKING. Women and people of colour were rising up out of poverty and competing with white males for good jobs. Can't have white people getting aced out by smarter, harder working minorities!! So Ronnie shut down anything that might help the poor succeed and villified them as "Welfare Queens".

And the right has been parrotting these lies ever since.

You're so full of shit. Like all Lefty's you've got it back asswards.

 

[my2¢]

We’re more likely to favor an organization like the Empower America Project

It is hard for me to relate to this topic. So I referenced the Empower America Project at Empower America Project which pointed my attention to Senator Tim Scott (R-SC). Is it valid to assume Senator Scott embodies the black conservative? If so, are policies the senator supports (Tim Scott on the Issues) gaining strength in the black community?

Interesting topic. Simply trying to educate myself.

 

[WillowTree]

Food stamp president: Enrollment up 70 percent under Obama

Enrollment in the food stamp program — officially the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program — has soared by 70 percent in the years since President Obama first took office, a new report finds.

www.washingtontimes.com

This does not sound like a stunning success to me!

Did you look at the unemployment statistics during the same time frame, or any economic indicator at all? It is in fact a success, because it put cash assistance into the pockets of needy Americans at a time when the whole country was hurting economically. Something that the right hates with a white hot rage. Giving cash to the poor.
The right will give billions to corporations to distribute to the shareholders, but not one thin dime to the people hurt most by their economic stupidity.

It took cash from working Americcans and gave it to those who did not work. Why would I look at the unemployment stats when the liberals assure us Obummet’s economy was an unmitigated success? The question is if it was so successful why did food stamp usage skyrocket? Got it now dumbass?

Food stamps skyrocketed and stay skyrocketed because of Boosh LOL. All things bad- Bush, Trump. All things good that Bush and Trump did - Obama. Obama’s level of accountability: 0.

The economy was dead when Obama took over, the food stamps came as a result of that.

No question Obama inherited a poor economy just like Bush and Clinton did. Bad economies impact all Presidents at different times of their term(s). I judge a President on the policies they pursue to expedite recovery. Expeditious economic recovery was not a priority for Obama. Blaming Bush was easier to free him up to pursue policies that rewarded friends first such as healthcare and environmentalist corporate cronies.

From an economic policy perspective, what specific policies did Obama pursue that empirically resulted in a positive impact for the US economy? Blaming Bush and Trump are not policies....

Which bush had a bad economy? Expeditious recovery? According to the study I posted republicans slowed down the recovery because of their obstruction. Trump was handed a growing health economy, that is a fact and you have undoubtedly been shown on multiple occasions the things Obama did. I am tired of debating racists WHO HAVE CHOSEN to refuse any credit be given to Obama while crediting Trump for turning around the economy almost from the moment he took office. So you go look for what Obama d8id since you seem unable to remember, but you can remember any lie trump makes up about him

Willow tree,.

I'm not going to argue about food stamps when the country faced a depression and ended up with over a decade of job growth which is a record . And trump did not create that record.

Logic and reason are not within your twice educated college brain? Got it.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

 

[JustAGuy1]

Is it about Obama?

 

[IM2]

...Facts, not a victim mindset...

You declaring something a 'fact' does not render it thus. The 'victim mindset' within your 'collective' is alive and well and holding 'you' back.

...

Not only is the legislated unfairness not dead...

Oh, please, enlighten us, with a substantive example of such 'legislative unfairness' that is (a) still extant and (b) still operative and still being enforced, on a scale large enough to be statistically significant on a nationwide basis.

...the damage created by past deeds has not been fixed...

And never, ever will be. It's what happens when Advanced Technology Civilizations meet Stone-Age Nomadic and Hunter-Gatherer primitive cultures.

White American paid for slavery in-full when it lost 600,000+ war-dead in a four-year-long Civil War to abolish slavery, as well as to preserve the Union.

And it paid for 100 years of Jim Crow with 50-60 years of Affirmative Action in government service, the military, prep-school and college admissions, and large corporations.

Your own collective failure to take full advantage of such accommodations is not the fault of White America nor the Federal nor State governments who provided that leg-up.

...There is no such thing as a victim mindset in the black community...

Rubbish... you, yourself, are a classic example of just that.

...The use of that term is common among whites like you who try racial gaslighting...

Truth-telling and the articulation of honest and widespread opinion does not constitute 'gaslighting'... attempted deflection noted... ignored.

...It's crazy talk because there is no such thing as political correctness...

1. No such thing? You are as wrong as wrong can be.

2. the presence or absence of 'politically correct filters' does not prove nor disprove the truthfulness or rationality of an argument

...We don't hold a majority in many major cities...

Yes and No. The White Vote is honestly split between two parties. The Black Vote is nearly monolithic in favor of the Party of Freebies (D).

When you halve the White Vote, the monolithic Black Vote oftentimes dominates, politically.

...Hispanics face the same racism...

Not really. They look and act more like White Folk. They are more readily recognized as hard workers and independent thinkers. They face bias, but not like Black Folk.,

...and when you talk about collective, it shows that you have released yourself from the reality of the 243 years of the white collective you have been part of your entire life...

Wrong again. I value my membership in that broader tribe. I do not apologize for it. Why-in-the-world should I?

...Everything whites have the givernment gave it to you...

You are delusional in this matter

...You talk about government social services and whites are the ones that have made a lifestyle out of it. It's been an American tradition...

Oh, really?

There is no doubt that more White Americans are on Welfare than there are Black Americans on Welfare.

Predictable, given that Whites represent some 72-77% of the US population and that Blacks only represent 12% .

No... what's REALLY "telling" is the PERCENTAGE of each group that is on Welfare, as may be illustrated by the following government statistics in a 30-year study...

View attachment 337420
https://nces.ed.gov/pubs2012/2012026/tables/table_32.asp

And, beyond sheer and damning percentages, we also need to look at the percentage within each demographic that REMAIN on welfare for extended periods of time, and also factor-in 'recidivism'.

Sorry... even a cursory glance beyond the simple-simon Raw Numbers you like to tout serves to expose the foolhardiness of relying solely upon such figures.

In any in-depth examination, 'you' are going to lose such an argument every time.

...Like I said, you're talking crazy...

You declaring it thus does not render it thus.

...And your perspective isn't really all that common...

Feel free to continue deluding yourself with that counterargument.

The truth is, most White Folk are far too busy living life... raising families, shaping careers, taking care of their homes, etc... to worry about you-and-yours overly much.

And that goes for many Democrats as well as Republicans. One main difference between the two is how much loose change they're willing to throw at your tribe.

But, once the debate cools down, both go back to their far safer suburbs and high-end stores and schools and go on with their own lives and do not give you a second thought.

In the case of the Democrats, not even a first thought, except to keep you on the hook for another four years until they need you again, and you fall for it, every time.

...but it is enough of a problem that it needs to end...

Of course. And one day the Lions and Lambs will lie down together and there will be Peace in the Valley.

Overall... occasional spikes in racial turmoil not withstanding... race relations have been getting better with each passing year since the 1960s. Most of us are content that it be so.

But when you pi$$ and moan over 40-acres-and-a-mule (metaphorically speaking) and tell us that we have to change our way of thinking, then you've got a hard row to hoe.

You lack the resources and muscle to force the issue, and legislation and education only takes us so far towards any such lofty goal.

It is far more realistic to strive for Peaceful Coexistence and Mutual Respect and Exploiting Commonalities than it is to continue pressing past Donor Exhaustion for more freebies.

...Nope, they are the types who seek approval from whites so badly that they will allow themselves to be degraded and used by whites to their disadvantage...

[
Some are.

Most aren't.

When I see a Black professional or tradesman, I (and most White Folk) see a professional or tradesman first, and skin-color second.

...I am not a black conservative, built 3 organizations and retired young enough to where today I get paid to do personal projects on my own time...

Thank you for your CV, but it is quite clear that you have built your Mindset, if not your career, on a foundation of Victim Mentality and Forty-Acres-and-a-Mule.

...There ain't no such thing as color blind...

True. But there can be Peaceful Coexistence and Mutual Respect and the Exploiting of Commonalities.

..., and there won't be until the damage whites created by 243 years of color conscious society building is fixed.

Your 20th-great-grandchildren should live so long.

Wake us up, when you get the British and Spanish and Portugese and Dutch to agree to chip-in with their fair share of any such Fantasy Reparations.

Not to mention hitting-up the Muslim descendants of the Arab Slave Traders and African Tribes who caught and wholesaled those poor unfortunates, centuries ago.

Get all of them to agree to contribute their own fair share, then strip-out the cost of 600,000 war-dead from the 1860s, and the cash value of 50-60 years of Affirmative Action, and come up with a Reparations Recipient Identifier and Payment Calculator system that those paying the freight can agree upon, and you might actually have a shot at that.

Good luck with that.

---------------

This is all to say that a great many White Folk in the country don't mind if our Black fellow-citizens grab their own fair share of the pie.

It's just that we're done hand-delivering that slice... it's time to get off 'your' dead a$$ and get it yourselves.

And, of course, these Inequality and Reparations themes appear to be cornerstones of your own existence; you eat, sleep and breathe it.

I hate to break it to you but, beyond your own 'collective', it's not exactly either a regularly-occurring thought nor much of a priority, and quite frankly, that's unlikely to change.

If there is any truth in that, your long-term choices seem to be (a) fight or (b) mainstream.

I have great confidence that the majority of your colleagues will chose (b).

All your bullshit post cannot obscured what your chart shows in spades: Non-whites are routingly and systemically descriminated against such that poverty is higher in every non-white socio-economic group. I know that your aim is to prove that blacks are lazier and thus more likely to be on welfare than any other raciala group.

Instead your chart graphically illustrates that if you're dumb, white and lazy, you're still better off economically than being black, Hispanic, or Asian.

Notice how in times of economic hardship, how the welfare rate increase is double for non-whites than it is for white people. This is proof positive that in hard times, low income blacks, Latinos and Native Americans face greater financial hardship than white people.

You've posted all these conservative talking points on the sources and causes of poverty that still comes down to Republicans blame the poor for an economic system built to keep white people on top, non-whites struggling. This fiction that anybody can make it America is a Republican fairy tale.

In 1980, if you were born poor, you had a 20% chance, through education, hard work, and fiscal prudence, to work your way out of poverty. Today, your chances are less than 2%. Republicans have successfully murdered the American dream that in America everyone has the same chance to succeed.

Excuses, excuses, excuses... threadbare, tattered, worn ones, no less... enough of the excuses and bull$hit... very few are listening anymore.

Don't fool yourself son.

 

[Dragonlady]

50% of Americans pay taxes! 50% do not. What percentage of Canadians pay taxes?We have generational welfare. Do ewe have generational welfare? How many illegal aliens dew ewe have to provide for out of your hard earned money? Key word illegal?

Let's examine how these statistics are used by Republicans to prove the ignorance and gullibility of Republican voter:

1. 50% of Americans don't pay taxes. First off Willow, this statement is a flat out lie. ALL Americans and all people living and working in the USA pay sales taxes, gas taxes, liquor taxes, property taxes, excise taxes, user fees, road tolls, social security taxes, and withholding. 50% of Americans don''t pay federal income taxes, but even minimum wage workers pay 15% SS taxes and withholding taxes.

In Canada, 78% of Canadians pay income taxes. That's because Canadians have a $14 minimum wage. Our overall wages are similar but it's much cheaper to live in Canada. In large part because our education and health care systems are not only better, and more efficient, good governance means they are run whole hell of a lot cheaper than all of your "for profit" systems which cut wages to the bone to give maximum profits to shareholders.

U.S. or Canada: Which Country Is Best to Call Home?

There are unique benefits to living both above and below the 49th parallel. Learn about some of the differences for U.S. and Canadian citizens.

www.investopedia.com

50% of Americans don't pay federal income tax because they don't make enough money to pay federal income tax. This means that in the richest nation on each, the federal government is issuing "earned income credits" to 22 million families making less than $42,000 per year. That 50% of Americans don't pay income taxes is an indictment of the systemic income inequity in the USA.

You look at the fact the 50% of Americans are not paying federal income taxes as an idictment of those who are getting a "free ride". I look at at 22 million working families receiving federal assistance as an indictment of the low wages for hourly rated employees across the board in the USA, and the corporations who have worked to flatten costs and raise profits and expenses at the expense of front line workers, since Reagan stopped raising the minimum wage in 1981.

Wages, as a percentage of costs, are at the same levels as the Guilded Age.

https://www.usnews.com/news/the-report/articles/2016-02-09/the-costs-of-inequality-the-rich-and-the-rest

2. Do Canadians have generational welfare? Yes. Our generational welfare is white and native. Especially native. There are a lot of reasons for native welfare and white people in Canada own all of them. Google Residential Schools to know why.

3. Illegals are a red herring. See paragraph #1, in my answer to question #1. Everyone living in America pays taxes. Illegals pay 15% withholding taxes and yet they can't claim earned income credits or other income supports. Their 15% is a gift to the federal government.

Why have Republicans so strongly resisted immigration reform or clamping down on companies employing illegals ever since Reagan gave 5 million amnesty? Republicans have been giving cover to their use and abuse of illegal immigrants to line their own pockets, by claiming Democrats are for "santuary cities" and "open borders", which is bullshit.

Illegals are CONTRIBUTING to your economy. They contribute to GDP, they contribute to taxes at ALL levels of government, and because they don't qualify for so many government programs, all of their contributions are at low cost to the government.

4 myths about how immigrants affect the U.S. economy

President Donald Trump’s characterization of immigrants, as people who are a drain public resources, is not backed by the data.

www.pbs.org

IF REPUBLICANS DON'T WANT ILLEGALS HERE, WHY DO THEY KEEP HIRING THEM:

'Let them go!': Largest US immigration raids in a decade net 680 arrests

A tearful 13-year-old boy stood beside his father as he waved goodbye to his mother, who worked at Koch Foods Inc., the site of the immigration sting.

www.usatoday.com

Chicken Plants See Little Fallout From Immigration Raids

The Trump administration says its crackdown helps discourage illegal immigration. But workers' advocates warn it leaves vulnerable employees open to exploitation and unsafe working conditions.

www.npr.org

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-two-undocumented-housekeepers-took-on-the-president--and-revealed-trumps-long-term-reliance-on-illegal-immigrants/2019/12/04/3dff5b5c-0a15-11ea-bd9d-c628fd48b3a0_story.html

 

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So?

 

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Is it about Obama?

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