The Republican solution to all American poverty is “well find a better paying job.” Here’s why that doesn’t make sense.

[Billy000]

And YOUR solution is to import millions of unskilled illegal aliens to take what jobs there are.

DURRRRRR

Lol this is so stupid. You and I know I never said anything like this at any point.

 

[westwall]

Lol this is so stupid. You and I know I never said anything like this at any point.

Buuuuuuuut, that is EXACTLY what the groomercrats are doing.

Stupid.

 

[Billy000]

Buuuuuuuut, that is EXACTLY what the groomercrats are doing.

Stupid.

Nope that is you making shit up.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No not anyone can do it. This is basic common sense of what I am saying here. I guess I’ll say it again so you’ll understand it. Higher paying jobs are greatly outnumbered by lower paying jobs. That means it is mathematically impossible for millions of people to get a higher paying job. The amount of jobs is insufficient. And again, even if the opportunity was there for those millions of people, who would be left behind to fill those low wage service jobs vital to the economy?

I don’t understand how this basic logic escapes you. I really don’t.

I'll tell you what, when those higher paying jobs are finally filled, then talk about it. But right now industry is hurting for skilled and unskilled workers. The real problem is the left has made everybody out to be a victim and conditioned people not to work or have any goals. Last week I didn't get my mail until 8:00pm. Even the post office can't find workers. At one time you just about had to know somebody to get a mail carrier job. Today they'll hire anybody willing and capable of doing the work.

 

[Billy000]

I'll tell you what, when those higher paying jobs are finally filled, then talk about it. But right now industry is hurting for skilled and unskilled workers. The real problem is the left has made everybody out to be a victim and conditioned people not to work or have any goals. Last week I didn't get my mail until 8:00pm. Even the post office can't find workers. At one time you just about had to know somebody to get a mail carrier job. Today they'll hire anybody willing and capable of doing the work.

All you ever do is make assumptions you believe are true simply because they make sense to you as explanations. You don’t ever seem to have political opinions based on actual facts. Where is the evidence of this “conditioning” you speak of? There isn’t any. You pulled it out of your ass. It just sounds true to you so you go with it.

 

[OKTexas]

You know I’m right.

Yeah, right as acid rain.

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[Ray From Cleveland]

While I agree somewhat, I am a veteran and I don't want any government free shit.

If you served our country it's not free. You paid for it with your service. It was part of the deal government made for you to join.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

All you ever do is make assumptions you believe are true simply because they make sense to you as explanations. You don’t ever seem to have political opinions based on actual facts. Where is the evidence of this “conditioning” you speak of? There isn’t any. You pulled it out of your ass. It just sounds true to you so you go with it.

Dementia increased food stamps the highest percentage since the program started. He and the other commies paid people more money to stay home than work when the economy started moving again. He increased the child tax credit making it more valuable for a parent to stay home than work. Yes, conditioning.

Biden child tax credit will push 1.5M workers from labor force: Study

A new study released on Friday shows Democrats' $3.5 trillion Build Back Better plan may not be as impactful on working families as the Biden administration claims.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Americans are forced to take second jobs now due to Xiden inflation:More American workers are taking on second jobs as inflation rages.

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With U.S. inflation racing ahead worker wages, a growing number of Americans are taking on second jobs to make ends meet.

Many people have already reined in spending where they can, while others have tapped their pandemic savings to cover the rising cost of food, gas, rent and other necessities. Yet the highest inflation in 40 years is weighing heavily on millions of households. Three-quarters of middle-income Americans say they don't earn enough to pay for the cost of living, according to a recent survey. "


Americans can't retire due to Xiden's inflation: 25% of Americans are delaying retirement due to inflation, survey finds

25% of Americans are delaying retirement due to inflation, survey finds​

Joey Xiden and the Dems...solution to poverty....make more people poor

It's more than that. I'm of retirement age and got my IRA statement last week. I lost 30K since the last quarter. Unless it's an emergency, nobody wants to touch their IRA in fear of losing big time when the market goes back up, whenever that will be.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Is that why your unemployment rate is below 3% and there are 11 million vacant jobs and not enough workers to fill them?

American workers have been screwed over by their employers for generations. No mandated vacations, No universal health care. The lowest minimum wage in the first world.

American workers work longer hours, with fewer vacations, fewer protections, and fewer benefits, than any nation in the first world, and they are paid less than any other G20 nation. And every Republican President since Reagan (except Bush 41), has further impoverished them by crashing the economy.

The "free stuff" doesn't even begin to cover the economic harm Donald Trump and the Republican Party continues to inflict on the American working family.

Trump has been out of office well over a year and a half. The Communist party has had control of the House since 2018. How are Republicans continuing to inflict economic harm when we haven't been in charge for years?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Lol that is complete bullshit. No he didn’t. Job growth was pitiful under Trump regardless of the year.

Before covid we had a million more jobs than Americans who could work them. How much more job creation can you get than that?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Where do I find this information? Based on what you people say. This is from you for example:

“As a Republican and being a blue collar one that has known a whole lot of Republicans from my experience our way out of poverty is with ambition, hard work, smart work and being responsible.”

That’s already my sentiment of how republicans want to solve poverty.

And what's wrong with that?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

This solution would of course apply on a micro level for specific people. It isn’t a solution to poverty itself, however. For one thing, higher paying jobs are greatly outnumbered by lower paying jobs. That means that inevitably millions of people will fail to get higher paying jobs regardless of how hard they tried. It’s a matter of simple mathematics. And even if the wealth of opportunity was there, who would be left to fill all those low wage service jobs vital to the functioning of the economy?

Republicans don’t have solutions to poverty besides this. The only way to alleviate poverty is 1) corporations deciding to pay more on a wider scale or 2) Government intervention.

Government intervention is what causes poverty in the first place.

If you hired a landscape company to take care of your lawn, and they charged you $50.00 per cut, why would you give them $75.00 per cut? Keeping that in mind, why would businesses pay people more than they can get others to do the jobs for?

 

[initforme]

Last year over 5 million people quit their jobs. That has been a huge positive for the country and young workers.

 

[Westender]

No not if it is done properly and realistically. The solution has never been “yeah let’s pay those making $10 per hour $20 per hour starting tomorrow.” I mean you have noticed that any time minimum wage was raised the economy didn’t crumble right? States have been doing this for years. Their economies did not suffer.

Ours has. Inflation is through the roof

 

[Billy000]

Dementia increased food stamps the highest percentage since the program started. He and the other commies paid people more money to stay home than work when the economy started moving again. He increased the child tax credit making it more valuable for a parent to stay home than work. Yes, conditioning.

Biden child tax credit will push 1.5M workers from labor force: Study

A new study released on Friday shows Democrats' $3.5 trillion Build Back Better plan may not be as impactful on working families as the Biden administration claims.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Lol do you guys even read the studies you like to tout? This was a PREDICTIVE study. An estimate of what could happen. Do you want to actually know what happened since Oct 2021? The unemployment rate fell by 1%. 4.7% to 3.6%. This study ended up meaning dick lol

 

[Billy000]

Government intervention is what causes poverty in the first place.

If you hired a landscape company to take care of your lawn, and they charged you $50.00 per cut, why would you give them $75.00 per cut? Keeping that in mind, why would businesses pay people more than they can get others to do the jobs for?

Lol I don’t even understand what point you’re trying to make here. What are you talking about?

 

[Billy000]

And what's wrong with that?

I’ve already explained this to you. I think you know I did but you’re playing dumb.

 

[whitehall]

"A better paying job" was the cornerstone of FDR's New Deal and now the democrats are trying to say it's wrong? Maybe the new democratic socialists think they have a better idea.

 

[Dragonlady]

Trump has been out of office well over a year and a half. The Communist party has had control of the House since 2018. How are Republicans continuing to inflict economic harm when we haven't been in charge for years?

The US economy doesn't turn on a dime, Ray. It takes a long, long time for a 100 car freight train to change speed or stop or even slow down. Trump decimated entire government departments driving away staff:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/the-trump-white-house-is-destroying-our-civil-service/2018/08/03/1aad229e-969c-11e8-810c-5fa705927d54_story.html

The Ugly History Behind Trump’s Attacks on Civil Servants

President Trump’s criticisms of government workers have something in common with Joe McCarthy’s.

www.politico.com

New data shows how the Trump administration is destroying the State Department

Sixty percent of State’s equivalent of four-star generals are gone.

www.vox.com

The President Is Winning His War on American Institutions

How Trump is destroying the civil service and bending the government to his will

www.theatlantic.com

All of those trade deals Trump tore up still haven't been replaced which means you have no trade deals.

Obama decreased your trade deficit from $816 billion in 2008, to $735 billion in 2016. Trump promised to eliminate your trade deficit, but instead increased it to more than $900 billion in 2020. It's gone even higher under Biden.

A lot of the trade Trump drove away is not coming back. Your trading partners now consider your country politically unstable, and contractually unreliable. Any deal that Biden makes, will be torn up if Trump is re-elected, and there are no guarantees that he won't be back. So there's no point in trying to make deals with Americans because it could all change any day depending on whether the American President wakes up to bad press clippings.

When Trump took office, the USA had a small trade surplus with Canada of $3 billion, based on a high surplus on the "services" side of "Goods and services". Trump said he was going to wipe out the Canadian surplus of $11 billion in hard goods exports, and it has been wiped out. Canada now has a $12 billion dollar surplus in our trade with the USA, including a $50 billion surplus in "goods". You're still killing it on the "services" side.

You've lost many of your markets, and we're not coming back because, quite frankly, we don't trust your word or your stability.

Trump inflicted the worst fiscal damage on the US economy in 100 years. It's not going to be fixed in 18 months. Especially since the country was running on Trump's last budget until the end of October, 2021, so we're less than 12 months into the Biden economy.