Cops don't handle white people with an iron fist based on preconceived notions of them being drug crazed, naturally stronger thugs with a tendency towards criminality and violence.
What I can say is, if a black cop did shoot an unarmed white person (without valid justification), it would definitely make the news; if only to use the one incident as a way of discrediting the thousand white cop/dead black man cases we've heard about over the years.
Except we've already given you two cases - Justine Damond and Jeremy Mardis, innocent white people shot by black cops, who got NOWHERE near the coverage of McDonald, Floyd, or Wright. Mardis' case was so obscure I had to google it.
Whatever they may have done in their lives had no bearing on their encounters at the given moment with the officers.
All that matters is what they are doing at that moment, and whether it endangered the lives of the officer or another person — something that should be evaluated by independent fact-finders, not D.A.s who work hand-in-glove with police every day.
If their actions did endanger the officer’s life or that of another person, then you would'nt need to look into old arrests and troubles.
Okay.
McDonald had a knife and was running down a busy street.
Floyd was operating a vehicle stoned out of his mind on PCP
Wright was attempting to flee in his vehicle
The police had every right to restrain them or attempt to place them under arrest because the WERE breaking the law. My issue was that excessive force was used.
The search for the perfect victim is as impossible.
It is impossible because few who get to adulthood make it there without having done something about which they'd prefer others not know.
But unless some one has a relatively spotless record, they should'nt expect safety or even the luxury of another breath ?
Hey, funny thing. I'm going to hit the Big Six-O next week.
In sixty-years, I've never been arrested.
Never had an encounter with the police more serious than a moving violation
Served my country for 11 years in the US Army.
Worked my way through college
Own my own home, have been gainfully employed since I was 16 in some capacity or another.
Now, if you want to tell me, that, yeah, I've had a good life because of white privilege, absolutely, I have.
Is that how low the bar is for white people ?
You're not supposed to shoot unarmed blk ppl who pose no threat to you16 times. I'm not gonna give credit to a person for doing something they're not supposed to do.
You still try to justify Macdonald's death with the usual white character assainations and then you ask for gratitude ?
Facts are character assassination? He was on drugs. He did have a history of mental illness. on the night of the shooting, he was breaking into trucks and brandishing a knife.
Trying to take him into custody was perfectly justified. Shooting him 16 times was not. If Van Dyke only shot him once, he probably wouldn't have had an issue.
I'll go one further, and maybe this is part of the problem. The top brass reviewed the infamous tape, including deputy chief Eddie Johnson, and ruled it justified. Johnson became the Police Superintendent after Rahm decided to throw McCarthy under the bus. Did I mention that Johnson is black?
The city tried to make it go away by paying McDonald's family 5 Million dollars, which they happily took and signed an NDA. (It only became public after the coroners' office disputed the official police version and the press demanded the tape under the FOI act.)
There were no real "Good guys" in this scenario. Not Van Dyke, not McDonald. Not McDonald's family, looking to cash in, not Rahm Emmanual, or the CPD, or Cook County State's Attorney Anita Alvarez, who got voted out of office and replaced by Kim Foxx. Heck, even Obama didn't make a big deal about this case (Unlike Mike Brown or Trayvon Martin) because he didn't want to jam up his buddy Rahm.
is there a handgun that can fire 16 rounds w/o reloading. I’ll have to ask gun owning friends.
Yes, that's standard issue for Chicago PD. A Smith and Wesson 9 MM. Maybe you need to learn the facts of a case before you express an opinion.
Sure you'll beef with each other but when it comes to mistreating blk ppl ? You'll drop your swords and be on the same page.
Well, I'd like to think it depends on what the evidence is. I suspect that if you ever found yourself in court, your attitude would go a long way in convicting you as your advocate rolls his eyes.
So you're gonna wimp out ?
There was a white guy called Joshua Solomon who in 1999 changed himself from black to white.
He felt that many black people used racism as an an excuse. He was like you and a lot of ppl on USMB. He was one of those "racism explainers".
He went to a doctor who gave him pills to turn his white skin brown.
He shaved the hair off his head but dressed the same, acted the same, talked the same. and he had the same money and education.
Wasn't that the plot for Soul Man?
You don't get gratitude for trying to justify why a 10 year black kid deserved to die
Well, that's a good thing, because I didn't do that. If you are talking about Tamir Rice, he was 12, and brandishing a realistic looking model gun in a public place. He was 5'8" and weighed 185 lbs.
You'd get gratitude if you could show me receipts of the work you have done to assist in the black liberation struggle that works within your OWN white community where the main decisions are made that negatively affects black people.
The decisions that bring about the bias, the discrimination that affects blacks; all those decision are not made in the ghettoes of black America. They are made in the burbs because it is the people who look like you who makes those decisions
You'd get gratitude if you were prepared to show humility and be ready to get the brunt of the criticism. You may have to listen to the angry black voices and be prepared to be criticized and rejected and not trusted.
Yeah, funny thing. No, not really. When I was a sergeant in the Army, I helped develop and promote black soldiers in my unit. When I've been a supervisor, I've helped along black people on my team. Even kept one from getting fired by my Jewish boss. In my current business, (I write resumes), I've helped hundreds of people of color find better jobs or get their careers on the right track.
Instesd you spend all your time disagreeing with me and @IM2 on everything and you wonder we think your full of shit
I have a little more respect for IM2, because he's somewhat rational. You are a guy who seems to enjoy nursing his grudges. Frankly, you sound just as angry as Ray and Lisa, just from the other side.
