The reason Conservatives lie so much

[Dragonlady]

If conservatives lie it is only to try and keep up with the lies from the libs.

If conservatives lie?

Ah yes, the "everybody's doing it" defense. How very "Russian" of you. That's the same defense the Russians used for doping their athletes. We're just doing it to keep up with the rest of the world.

Republicans lie because their policies don't work. They crash they economy every time they get into the White House. T

If Republicans told the truth, no one would vote for them. They are incapable of keeping the lights on. The pandemic response was the least successful covid response in the world, leading to the worst disease and death in the world.

It's an indictment of the entire American medical system that your life expectancy has been declining for the past 6 years. The only First World country where this is happening. The rest of us are increasing our life expectancy.

Your people are fat, sick, and not living as long as their parents. Yet Republicans tell you that you have the "best" healthcare in the world. The ONLY reason that the rest of the world comes to the USA for treatment is because no other country in the First World sells healthcare for profit, while denying their own people access to the system. Doctors here cannot treat patients outside of our healthcare system as long as one Canadian is waiting for care.

 

[Dragonlady]

It's the spending that creates the situation.

And the average marginal tax rate is actually higher than it was when the top rate was 90%.

But BOTH parties are at fault. Every single president since Coolidge has increased the debt.

These 2 parties are what fucked up this country and insane partisans think that the same 2 parties can unfuck it.

They can't and they won't

It's not the spending, it's the lack of taxation. If you want to live in a First World country, you need to tax the people to provide the education, infrastructure and security to protect business and personal property rights and to enforce those rights.

The average marginal tax rate is irrelevant. What matters is the distribution of income and wealth that the taxes codify.

• Are taxes sufficient to pay for the government you have?
• How does the tax code affect the distribution of the wealth of the nation?

The answer to the first question is "No". Republicans keep telling you lies about the tax cuts. They don't create jobs. They don't pay for themselves, and they destabilize the markets.

Your tax code is widening both the wealth gap and the wage gap at the fastest rate in your history. Donald Trump's tax cuts have accelerated the rate of wealth transfer from the middle class to the top.

The success of the Republican tax and labor laws can be found not in the tax rates, but in the distribution of wealth in the USA. A rising tide should lift all boats, and while the American economy has the highest level of wealth and income in its history, fully 40% of working Americans are seeing no benefit from the "greatest economy ever". That's the effect of the tax code.

Since 1981, when Reagan took office, the wealth of the nation has flowing steadily to the top. Working Americans owned 5% of the wealth of the nation. Not a huge amount, but they had some wealth and savings. By the time W crashed the economy, the wealth of working Americans had been wiped out, and the middle class was starting to struggle. 80% of all income and wealth now flow to the top. That's not sustainable, as you can clearly see.

Under Donald Trump, 8 million people fell out of the middle and working class, and back into poverty. Not a good trend, but what we're seeing now in the US economy is the same thing that happened to South America in the 1970's when Milton Friedman's toxic economy theories were in vogue. The USA in on the road to becoming a second world nation, precisely BECAUSE of your Republican tax code.

 

[Blues Man]

It's not the spending, it's the lack of taxation. If you want to live in a First World country, you need to tax the people to provide the education, infrastructure and security to protect business and personal property rights and to enforce those rights.

The average marginal tax rate is irrelevant. What matters is the distribution of income and wealth that the taxes codify.

• Are taxes sufficient to pay for the government you have?
• How does the tax code affect the distribution of the wealth of the nation?

The answer to the first question is "No". Republicans keep telling you lies about the tax cuts. They don't create jobs. They don't pay for themselves, and they destabilize the markets.

Your tax code is widening both the wealth gap and the wage gap at the fastest rate in your history. Donald Trump's tax cuts have accelerated the rate of wealth transfer from the middle class to the top.

The success of the Republican tax and labor laws can be found not in the tax rates, but in the distribution of wealth in the USA. A rising tide should lift all boats, and while the American economy has the highest level of wealth and income in its history, fully 40% of working Americans are seeing no benefit from the "greatest economy ever". That's the effect of the tax code.

Since 1981, when Reagan took office, the wealth of the nation has flowing steadily to the top. Working Americans owned 5% of the wealth of the nation. Not a huge amount, but they had some wealth and savings. By the time W crashed the economy, the wealth of working Americans had been wiped out, and the middle class was starting to struggle. 80% of all income and wealth now flow to the top. That's not sustainable, as you can clearly see.

Under Donald Trump, 8 million people fell out of the middle and working class, and back into poverty. Not a good trend, but what we're seeing now in the US economy is the same thing that happened to South America in the 1970's when Milton Friedman's toxic economy theories were in vogue. The USA in on the road to becoming a second world nation, precisely BECAUSE of your Republican tax code.

It is always the spending.

TAx cuts don;t cost anything.

Spending in excess of revenue is what git us where we are

 

[Dragonlady]

Blah blah blah...

It just MUST be racism because EVERYTHING is racism.

Once again, the assertion that simply cannot be disproven. It is nothing more than a religion at that point.

Denial is not just a river in Egypt.

No other country in the first world keeps statistics on race for anything. The USA keeps statistics on race for EVERYTHING. Crime, poverty, education, population, even health care outcomes are influenced by race. Then they use the statistics to denigrate the minorities, calling them "lazy" for their higher rates of unemployment, "stupid" because test scores in poor neighborhoods are lower than wealthier areas with resources;, and "criminal", because poverty and lack of opportunity breeds crime.

The racism is so baked into the system that you don't even see it much less acknowledge it. Republicans phrase it as "urban" versus "rural", but no one is fooled, other than Republicans who swallow all of the lies.

 

[IM2]

Blah blah blah...

It just MUST be racism because EVERYTHING is racism.

Once again, the assertion that simply cannot be disproven. It is nothing more than a religion at that point.

It's easy to be white and racist downplaying the racism you practice. Turn black and try living 5 years then come talk to me.

 

[Dragonlady]

If conservatives lie it is only to try and keep up with the lies from the libs.

If conservatives lie?

Ah yes, the "everybody's doing it" defense. How very "Russian" of you. That's the same defense the Russians used for doping their athletes. We're just doing it to keep up with the rest of the world.

It's also a lie. Republicans lie because their voters let them. They tell people what they want to hear, but it has no basis in reality. They lie because if they told you the truth, you'd never vote for them.

 

[tshrimp]

Maybe,, but your position is consistent with whites who have issues with race so if you're not white you suffer from internalized racism.

The issue is whites should be ticked off these days. They are blamed for everything. Constantly told they are racists (and if they say they aren't that is racist [dumbest comment ever]). Constantly told they are evil. Every meeting at work is anti-white, as the diversity training has become how can we hire anyone but whites. And when racism is directed at them and they complain they get the comments such as "you can't be racist against white people". Racism is racism no matter the person giving or receiving. And the comments from the left always seem much more racist to me than anything I ever get from the right. They always make assumptions that I am an ignorant, incapable human being and that, to me, is the most racist thing anyone can say.

Edit: I want to add that, IMO, this is adding to racial tension and causing a divide that I didn't feel a decade ago.

 

[tshrimp]

You aree completly wrong. Zimmerman was told by the police dispatch not to continue folloewin Martin but he did so anyway. He was not attacked and Rittenhouse didn't kill 2 people in self defense.

You say I mistook your race.
Idon't think so.

If someone is following you it does not give the person followed the right to attack that person. Trayvon should have called the police and reported the person was following him. Attacking Zimmerman was not the answer. And he was found not guilty of murder even after the media convicted him, and did their standard liefest. Ex. Stating Zimmerman was white as they knew that would get the juices flowing.

And, yes, Rittenhouse was defending himself.

You don't have to believe me on race. But I think you really do, and it worries you that there are those of us who do not give into the leftist narrative. They will not use me. I will not be a pawn.

 

[tshrimp]

If conservatives lie?

Ah yes, the "everybody's doing it" defense. How very "Russian" of you. That's the same defense the Russians used for doping their athletes. We're just doing it to keep up with the rest of the world.

Republicans lie because their policies don't work. They crash they economy every time they get into the White House. T

If Republicans told the truth, no one would vote for them. They are incapable of keeping the lights on. The pandemic response was the least successful covid response in the world, leading to the worst disease and death in the world.

It's an indictment of the entire American medical system that your life expectancy has been declining for the past 6 years. The only First World country where this is happening. The rest of us are increasing our life expectancy.

Your people are fat, sick, and not living as long as their parents. Yet Republicans tell you that you have the "best" healthcare in the world. The ONLY reason that the rest of the world comes to the USA for treatment is because no other country in the First World sells healthcare for profit, while denying their own people access to the system. Doctors here cannot treat patients outside of our healthcare system as long as one Canadian is waiting for care.

Deleting, as my comments were not as polite as they should have been. My apologies Dragonlady.

 

[tshrimp]

If conservatives lie?

Ah yes, the "everybody's doing it" defense. How very "Russian" of you. That's the same defense the Russians used for doping their athletes. We're just doing it to keep up with the rest of the world.

It's also a lie. Republicans lie because their voters let them. They tell people what they want to hear, but it has no basis in reality. They lie because if they told you the truth, you'd never vote for them.

You mean those right wing lies like these:

"you can keep your doctor...period"?

$3.5 trillion doesn't cost anything.

Withdrawal in Afghanistan went well, and as planned... "The drawdown is proceeding in a secure and orderly way" and "We will not leave Afghanistan until every American is evacuated"

Southern border is under control

Border patrol whipped Haitians

Hunter Biden's laptop is "Russian misinformation".

Blacks are not smart enough to get an ID.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

There isn't a single word of truth or reality in your post. Not one.

Trump was on pace to crash the economy the moment he signed that tax cut. You don't cut taxes in a booming economy unless you're running a surplus, which was not the case. You cut taxes in a recession to boost the economy, and raise them during a boom to cover the deficit.

Cut taxes and then running up the deficit crashed the economy when Reagan did it, and when Bush did it. I posted back when Trump signed his tax cut that the third time would not be the charm. After 10 years of uninterrupted growth, the nation was due for a recession, and cutting taxes during the boom would leave few resources to work with during any emergency or downturn, and no way to cut taxes further in a recession.

So just cut the crap with your brain dead praise for Republican failures and fiscal malfeasance. Only idiots like yourself believe anything coming out of the Republican Party these days, or their media.

You lie lady, all the time. Which fucking part is untrue, go?

ILMAO, LADY said the reason the economy crashed was, it would have been Trump's fault cause he cut taxes. FUCK you're a spineless European, and you project your BS. I know you're a foreigner, do you know what Congress does besides mouth off like a bitch named Pelosi?

Lady is a MFing economic GENIUS. You cut taxes during recession and tax in a boom she declares. You love me some Biden right? how come he's not following your economic advise, after all, he wants to raise taxes while our economy under performs. Call him, surely he needs your advise.

You PROGS are simply MFing pissed because the data I provided fucks your shit up. Here's a thought, how about cut out your BS parroting and plant your feet on Earth instead? Ya think. Here I'll post it again, just for you leftists.

YR	POTUS	SEN	Con	UN-EMP Rate	POVTY Rate	Crime Rate	GDP	Ave. Misery Rate	Ave. MORT Rate	Inflation Rate	Fed. Debt
1975	Ford	Dem	Dem	8.48	12.3	5.30%	-0.21%	15.10%	9.05%	9.14%	533.2 B
1976	Ford	Dem	Dem	7.70	11.8	5.29%	5.39%	12.70%	8.87%	5.74%	620.4 B
1977	Carter	Dem	Dem	7.05	11.6	5.08%	4.62%	13.10%	8.85%	6.50%	699.8 B
1978	Carter	Dem	Dem	6.07	11.4	5.14%	5.54%	15.00%	9.64%	7.63%	771.5 B
1979	Carter	Dem	Dem	5.85	11.7	5.57%	3.17%	19.30%	11.20%	11.25%	826.5 B
1980	Carter	Dem	Dem	7.18	13	5.95%	-0.26%	19.70%	13.74%	13.55%	907.7 B
1981	Reagan	Rep	Dem	7.62	14	5.86%	2.54%	12.19%	16.63%	10.33%	997.9 B
1982	Reagan	Rep	Dem	9.71	15	5.60%	-1.80%	12.19%	16.04%	6.13%	1.14 T
1983	Reagan	Rep	Dem	9.60	15.2	5.18%	4.58%	12.19%	13.24%	3.21%	1.38 T
1984	Reagan	Rep	Dem	7.51	14.4	5.03%	7.24%	12.19%	13.88%	4.30%	1.57 T
1985	Reagan	Rep	Dem	7.19	14	5.21%	4.17%	12.19%	12.43%	3.55%	1.82 T
1986	Reagan	Rep	Dem	7.00	13.6	5.50%	3.46%	12.19%	10.19%	1.90%	2.13 T
1987	Reagan	Dem	Dem	6.18	13.4	5.58%	3.46%	12.19%	10.21%	3.66%	2.35 T
1988	Reagan	Dem	Dem	5.49	13	5.66%	4.18%	12.19%	10.34%	4.08%	2.60 T
1989	Bush	Dem	Dem	5.26	12.8	5.74%	3.68%	10.68%	10.32%	4.83%	2.86 T
1990	Bush	Dem	Dem	5.62	13.5	5.82%	-1.79%	10.68%	10.13%	5.40%	3.23 T
1991	Bush	Dem	Dem	6.85	14.2	5.90%	-1.99%	10.68%	9.25%	4.24%	3.67 T
1992	Bush	Dem	Dem	7.49	14.8	5.66%	3.52%	10.68%	8.39%	3.03%	4.06 T
1993	Clinton	Dem	Dem	6.91	15.1	5.48%	2.75%	9.20%	7.31%	2.95%	4.41 T
1994	Clinton	Dem	Dem	6.10	14.5	5.37%	4.03%	8.20%	8.38%	2.61%	4.70 T
1995	Clinton	Rep	Rep	5.59	13.8	5.28%	2.68%	8.10%	7.93%	2.81%	4.98 T
1996	Clinton	Rep	Rep	5.41	13.7	5.09%	3.77%	8.70%	7.81%	2.93%	5.22 T
1997	Clinton	Rep	Rep	4.94	13.3	4.93%	4.45%	6.40%	7.60%	2.34%	5.41 T
1998	Clinton	Rep	Rep	4.50	12.7	4.62%	4.48%	6.00%	6.94%	1.55%	5.53 T
1999	Clinton	Rep	Rep	4.22	11.9	4.27%	4.75%	6.70%	7.44%	2.19%	5.66 T
2000	Clinton	Rep	Rep	3.97	11.3	4.12%	-0.63%	7.30%	8.05%	3.38%	5.67 T
2001	Bush	Dem	Rep	4.74	11.7	4.16%	-3.13%	7.30%	6.97%	2.83%	5.80 T
2002	Bush	Dem	Rep	5.78	12.1	4.13%	1.74%	8.40%	6.54%	1.59%	6.23 T
2003	Bush	Rep	Rep	5.99	12.5	4.07%	2.86%	7.60%	5.83%	2.27%	6.78 T
2004	Bush	Rep	Rep	5.54	12.7	3.98%	3.80%	8.70%	5.84%	2.68%	7.38 T
2005	Bush	Rep	Rep	5.08	12.6	3.90%	3.51%	8.30%	5.87%	3.39%	7.93 T
2006	Bush	Rep	Rep	4.61	12.3	3.81%	2.86%	6.90%	6.41%	3.23%	8.50 T
2007	Bush	Dem	Dem	4.62	12.5	3.73%	1.88%	9.10%	6.34%	2.85%	9.07 T
2008	Bush	Dem	Dem	5.80	13.2	3.67%	-0.14%	7.40%	6.03%	3.84%	10.02 T
2009	Obama	Dem	Dem	9.28	14.3	3.51%	-2.54%	12.60%	5.04%	-0.36%	11.90 T
2010	Obama	Dem	Dem	9.61	15.1	3.35%	2.56%	10.80%	4.69%	1.64%	13.56 T
2011	Obama	Dem	Rep	8.93	15	3.29%	1.55%	11.50%	4.45%	3.16%	14.79 T
2012	Obama	Dem	Rep	8.08	15	3.26%	2.25%	9.60%	3.66%	2.07%	16.06 T
2013	Obama	Dem	Rep	7.36	14.8	3.11%	1.84%	8.20%	3.98%	1.46%	16.74 T
2014	Obama	Dem	Rep	6.16	14.8	2.95%	2.53%	6.40%	4.17%	1.62%	17.82 T
2015	Obama	Rep	Rep	5.28	13.5	2.89%	2.91%	5.70%	3.85%	0.12%	18.15 T
2016	Obama	Rep	Rep	4.88	12.7	2.85%	1.64%	6.80%	3.65%	1.26%	19.57 T
2017	Trump	Rep	Rep	4.35	12.3	2.76%	2.37%	6.30%	3.99%	2.13%	20.24 T
2018	Trump	Rep	Rep	3.89	11.8	2.59%	2.93%	5.80%	4.54%	2.44%	21.52 T
2019	Trump	Rep	Dem	3.68	10.5	2.49%	2.16%	5.80%	3.94%	1.81%	22.71 T
June 2020	Trump	Rep	Dem		9.3		Pending	6.6	3.16%	1.25%
2020	Trump	Rep	Dem	6.70	11.7		-3.30%	6.6	3.11%	1.25%	26.95 T
2021	Xiden	Dem	Dem	5.90	Projected 13.7		1st Qtr. 6.5%	10.77	3.13%	5.3%	28.8 T

 

[Faun]

You lie lady, all the time. Which fucking part is untrue, go?

ILMAO, LADY said the reason the economy crashed was, it would have been Trump's fault cause he cut taxes. FUCK you're a spineless European, and you project your BS. I know you're a foreigner, do you know what Congress does besides mouth off like a bitch named Pelosi?

Lady is a MFing economic GENIUS. You cut taxes during recession and tax in a boom she declares. You love me some Biden right? how come he's not following your economic advise, after all, he wants to raise taxes while our economy under performs. Call him, surely he needs your advise.

You PROGS are simply MFing pissed because the data I provided fucks your shit up. Here's a thought, how about cut out your BS parroting and plant your feet on Earth instead? Ya think. Here I'll post it again, just for you leftists.

YR	POTUS	SEN	Con	UN-EMP Rate	POVTY Rate	Crime Rate	GDP	Ave. Misery Rate	Ave. MORT Rate	Inflation Rate	Fed. Debt
1975	Ford	Dem	Dem	8.48	12.3	5.30%	-0.21%	15.10%	9.05%	9.14%	533.2 B
1976	Ford	Dem	Dem	7.70	11.8	5.29%	5.39%	12.70%	8.87%	5.74%	620.4 B
1977	Carter	Dem	Dem	7.05	11.6	5.08%	4.62%	13.10%	8.85%	6.50%	699.8 B
1978	Carter	Dem	Dem	6.07	11.4	5.14%	5.54%	15.00%	9.64%	7.63%	771.5 B
1979	Carter	Dem	Dem	5.85	11.7	5.57%	3.17%	19.30%	11.20%	11.25%	826.5 B
1980	Carter	Dem	Dem	7.18	13	5.95%	-0.26%	19.70%	13.74%	13.55%	907.7 B
1981	Reagan	Rep	Dem	7.62	14	5.86%	2.54%	12.19%	16.63%	10.33%	997.9 B
1982	Reagan	Rep	Dem	9.71	15	5.60%	-1.80%	12.19%	16.04%	6.13%	1.14 T
1983	Reagan	Rep	Dem	9.60	15.2	5.18%	4.58%	12.19%	13.24%	3.21%	1.38 T
1984	Reagan	Rep	Dem	7.51	14.4	5.03%	7.24%	12.19%	13.88%	4.30%	1.57 T
1985	Reagan	Rep	Dem	7.19	14	5.21%	4.17%	12.19%	12.43%	3.55%	1.82 T
1986	Reagan	Rep	Dem	7.00	13.6	5.50%	3.46%	12.19%	10.19%	1.90%	2.13 T
1987	Reagan	Dem	Dem	6.18	13.4	5.58%	3.46%	12.19%	10.21%	3.66%	2.35 T
1988	Reagan	Dem	Dem	5.49	13	5.66%	4.18%	12.19%	10.34%	4.08%	2.60 T
1989	Bush	Dem	Dem	5.26	12.8	5.74%	3.68%	10.68%	10.32%	4.83%	2.86 T
1990	Bush	Dem	Dem	5.62	13.5	5.82%	-1.79%	10.68%	10.13%	5.40%	3.23 T
1991	Bush	Dem	Dem	6.85	14.2	5.90%	-1.99%	10.68%	9.25%	4.24%	3.67 T
1992	Bush	Dem	Dem	7.49	14.8	5.66%	3.52%	10.68%	8.39%	3.03%	4.06 T
1993	Clinton	Dem	Dem	6.91	15.1	5.48%	2.75%	9.20%	7.31%	2.95%	4.41 T
1994	Clinton	Dem	Dem	6.10	14.5	5.37%	4.03%	8.20%	8.38%	2.61%	4.70 T
1995	Clinton	Rep	Rep	5.59	13.8	5.28%	2.68%	8.10%	7.93%	2.81%	4.98 T
1996	Clinton	Rep	Rep	5.41	13.7	5.09%	3.77%	8.70%	7.81%	2.93%	5.22 T
1997	Clinton	Rep	Rep	4.94	13.3	4.93%	4.45%	6.40%	7.60%	2.34%	5.41 T
1998	Clinton	Rep	Rep	4.50	12.7	4.62%	4.48%	6.00%	6.94%	1.55%	5.53 T
1999	Clinton	Rep	Rep	4.22	11.9	4.27%	4.75%	6.70%	7.44%	2.19%	5.66 T
2000	Clinton	Rep	Rep	3.97	11.3	4.12%	-0.63%	7.30%	8.05%	3.38%	5.67 T
2001	Bush	Dem	Rep	4.74	11.7	4.16%	-3.13%	7.30%	6.97%	2.83%	5.80 T
2002	Bush	Dem	Rep	5.78	12.1	4.13%	1.74%	8.40%	6.54%	1.59%	6.23 T
2003	Bush	Rep	Rep	5.99	12.5	4.07%	2.86%	7.60%	5.83%	2.27%	6.78 T
2004	Bush	Rep	Rep	5.54	12.7	3.98%	3.80%	8.70%	5.84%	2.68%	7.38 T
2005	Bush	Rep	Rep	5.08	12.6	3.90%	3.51%	8.30%	5.87%	3.39%	7.93 T
2006	Bush	Rep	Rep	4.61	12.3	3.81%	2.86%	6.90%	6.41%	3.23%	8.50 T
2007	Bush	Dem	Dem	4.62	12.5	3.73%	1.88%	9.10%	6.34%	2.85%	9.07 T
2008	Bush	Dem	Dem	5.80	13.2	3.67%	-0.14%	7.40%	6.03%	3.84%	10.02 T
2009	Obama	Dem	Dem	9.28	14.3	3.51%	-2.54%	12.60%	5.04%	-0.36%	11.90 T
2010	Obama	Dem	Dem	9.61	15.1	3.35%	2.56%	10.80%	4.69%	1.64%	13.56 T
2011	Obama	Dem	Rep	8.93	15	3.29%	1.55%	11.50%	4.45%	3.16%	14.79 T
2012	Obama	Dem	Rep	8.08	15	3.26%	2.25%	9.60%	3.66%	2.07%	16.06 T
2013	Obama	Dem	Rep	7.36	14.8	3.11%	1.84%	8.20%	3.98%	1.46%	16.74 T
2014	Obama	Dem	Rep	6.16	14.8	2.95%	2.53%	6.40%	4.17%	1.62%	17.82 T
2015	Obama	Rep	Rep	5.28	13.5	2.89%	2.91%	5.70%	3.85%	0.12%	18.15 T
2016	Obama	Rep	Rep	4.88	12.7	2.85%	1.64%	6.80%	3.65%	1.26%	19.57 T
2017	Trump	Rep	Rep	4.35	12.3	2.76%	2.37%	6.30%	3.99%	2.13%	20.24 T
2018	Trump	Rep	Rep	3.89	11.8	2.59%	2.93%	5.80%	4.54%	2.44%	21.52 T
2019	Trump	Rep	Dem	3.68	10.5	2.49%	2.16%	5.80%	3.94%	1.81%	22.71 T
June 2020	Trump	Rep	Dem		9.3		Pending	6.6	3.16%	1.25%
2020	Trump	Rep	Dem	6.70	11.7		-3.30%	6.6	3.11%	1.25%	26.95 T
2021	Xiden	Dem	Dem	5.90	Projected 13.7		1st Qtr. 6.5%	10.77	3.13%	5.3%	28.8 T

The economy is underperforming??

GDP since January is 6.4% and we're averaging over 600K jobs per month.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

The economy is underperforming??

GDP since January is 6.4% and we're averaging over 600K jobs per month.

Dumbass, ever heard of COVID? Did you know what Demonicrats let that do to our economy? Ever heard of recession and recovery? Look it up asshole, we're underperforming by all forecasts, we HAVN'T RECOVERED, but your dumb ass thinks a climb in any manner is a recovery, because Pelosi is well up your upper intestines.

Say, GDP raised about 40% Trump's last two quarters. According to your excuses we MUST have been experiencing the greatest economic boom in our lifetimes.

And your number abut jobs is completely misleading...... "Job creation for August was a huge disappointment, with the economy adding just 235,000 positions, the Labor Department reported Friday."

How about using your head instead of Xiden's lips?

 

[Faun]

Dumbass, ever heard of COVID? Did you know what Demonicrats let that do to our economy? Ever heard of recession and recovery? Look it up asshole, we're underperforming by all forecasts, we HAVN'T RECOVERED, but your dumb ass thinks a climb in any manner is a recovery, because Pelosi is well up your upper intestines.

Say, GDP raised about 40% Trump's last two quarters. According to your excuses we MUST have been experiencing the greatest economic boom in our lifetimes.

And your number abut jobs is completely misleading...... "Job creation for August was a huge disappointment, with the economy adding just 235,000 positions, the Labor Department reported Friday."

How about using your head instead of Xiden's lips?

LOLOL

You're fucking deranged. GDP did not go up about 40% during Trump's last 2 quarters.

2020Q2: 17,258.2
2020Q3: 18,560.8
2020Q4: 18,767.8

That's an annualized increase of 18.3%.

https://apps.bea.gov/national/xls/gdplev.xlsx

As far as employment, despite August's disappointment, we've added 4,454,000 under Biden

JAN/21: 142,736,000
AUG/21: 147,190,000

That's an average of 636,286 jobs added each of those months.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

data.bls.gov

So, no, the economy is not "underperforming."

 

[JusticeHammer]

If conservatives lie?

Ah yes, the "everybody's doing it" defense. How very "Russian" of you. That's the same defense the Russians used for doping their athletes. We're just doing it to keep up with the rest of the world.

It's also a lie. Republicans lie because their voters let them. They tell people what they want to hear, but it has no basis in reality. They lie because if they told you the truth, you'd never vote for them.

So what is your excuse? You just described demscum.

 

[g5000]

Think about it...was the American economy better under Reagan, the Bush's and Trump than that of Clinton, Obama, and Biden?

 

[Dragonlady]

If someone is following you it does not give the person followed the right to attack that person. Trayvon should have called the police and reported the person was following him. Attacking Zimmerman was not the answer. And he was found not guilty of murder even after the media convicted him, and did their standard liefest. Ex. Stating Zimmerman was white as they knew that would get the juices flowing.

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And, yes, Rittenhouse was defending himself.

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You don't have to believe me on race. But I think you really do, and it worries you that there are those of us who do not give into the leftist narrative. They will not use me. I will not be a pawn.

You are most definitely being used and you are a pawn.

Rittenhouse was being chased by people after he shot the first man. That's why he's on the ground - he fell. These brave men who were unarmed, chased down a guy armed with a AR weapon, who had already shot and killed one man.

 

[g5000]

Conservative lies: You've heard them all before-

Liberals want to take all our guns away, Liberals want open borders, Liberals never work, Liberals are soft on crime, Liberals just want is "free stuff" Liberals are Socialists, Liberals hate white people, Liberals are destroying our cities with crime and violence. On and on it goes. Here is the cold, hard truth why these lies persist to this day-

Conservatives have nothing better to offer the American people!

Think about it...was the American economy better under Reagan, the Bush's and Trump than that of Clinton, Obama, and Biden? Answer: NO. Was America any safer? Answer: NO Was the crime rate any lower? Answer: NO Was the national debt any smaller? Answer: NO. (Clinton was the last President to record a national surplus) Was the environment any cleaner? Answer: NO Were our children any better educated? Answer: NO. Did our justice system work any better? Answer: NO And the list goes on -

The bottom line is the Conservative agenda has little to offer average Americans, and a great deal to offer the 1%. To make up for this, Conservative America resorts to district gerrymandering, name calling, conspiracy theory's, soundbites such as "deep state" "MSM", as well as deeply questioning the legitimacy of America's 240+ year electoral process to create the impression that "it's all rigged!" When in fact it's really not.

But, Conservatives have nothing better to offer....

Wow. A gigantic lie of omission.

Democrats lie as often as pseudo-cons. I don't call pseudo-cons conservatives. They would not know a conservative principle if it kicked them in the nuts.

As for gerrymandering, if you think Democrats don't do that every chance they get, then you are living in a very deep cave.

Trump took name calling to a whole new low, that's true. But Democrats are not innocent in any way, shape, or form.

Conspiracy theories? Remember Hillary's "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy"? How about Trump's Russian collusion? There was a conspiracy theory in 2004 that there was massive voter fraud in Ohio to help Bush win. And there are a lot of Democrats who believe 9/11 was an inside job.

I could go on, but you get the point.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

LOLOL

You're fucking deranged. GDP did not go up about 40% during Trump's last 2 quarters.

2020Q2: 17,258.2
2020Q3: 18,560.8
2020Q4: 18,767.8

That's an annualized increase of 18.3%.

https://apps.bea.gov/national/xls/gdplev.xlsx

As far as employment, despite August's disappointment, we've added 4,454,000 under Biden

JAN/21: 142,736,000
AUG/21: 147,190,000

That's an average of 636,286 jobs added each of those months.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

data.bls.gov

So, no, the economy is not "underperforming."

I only read as far as your first line of BS.

Gross Domestic Product, 4th Quarter and Year 2020 (Advance Estimate) | U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)

*/ /*-->*/ Real gross domestic product (GDP) increased at an annual rate of 4.0 percent in the fourth quarter of 2020 (table 1), according to the "advance" estimate released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. In the third quarter, real GDP increased 33.4 percent.

www.bea.gov

Gross Domestic Product by State, 3rd Quarter 2020 | U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)

Real gross domestic product (GDP) increased in all 50 states and the District of Columbia in the third quarter of 2020, as real GDP for the nation increased at an annual rate of 33.4 percent, according to statistics released today by the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis. The percent change in...

www.bea.gov

 

[Faun]

I only read as far as your first line of BS.

Gross Domestic Product, 4th Quarter and Year 2020 (Advance Estimate) | U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)

*/ /*-->*/ Real gross domestic product (GDP) increased at an annual rate of 4.0 percent in the fourth quarter of 2020 (table 1), according to the "advance" estimate released by the Bureau of Economic Analysis. In the third quarter, real GDP increased 33.4 percent.

www.bea.gov

Gross Domestic Product by State, 3rd Quarter 2020 | U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)

Real gross domestic product (GDP) increased in all 50 states and the District of Columbia in the third quarter of 2020, as real GDP for the nation increased at an annual rate of 33.4 percent, according to statistics released today by the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis. The percent change in...

www.bea.gov

As if the forum needed more evidence you're retarded.

Moron, quarterly GDP growth percentages for 3rd and 4th quarter are NOT cumulative.

Want proof? Quarterly GDP figures for last year...

2020Q1: -5.1
2020Q2: -31.2
2020Q3: 33.8
2020Q4: 4.5

https://apps.bea.gov/national/xls/gdpchg.xlsx

If those figures were cumulative, as you idiotically think, GDP for all of 2020 would have been +2.0%. But it wasn't. GDP for all of 2020 was -3.4%.

And imbecile, I even gave you the GDP figures from the BEA AND did the math for you because I knew you couldn't... for the last two quarters of 2020, GDP increased

from 17,258.2 to 18,767.8​

For 2 quarters, that's an annualized growth of 18.3%, not, 40%.

Like I always say, conservatives should never play with numbers. They hurt themselves every time they try.