The real reason US fears Iran getting a nuke.

[Roadrunner]

My main worry is that an Iranian nuke would fall into the hands of a radical jihad organization. Same with a Saudi nuke. Especially of the backpack variety.

Iran is a radical jihad organization.

Where the fuck have you been?

 

[MaryL]

Nice. Condescending, as if you comprehend the issue. Or
perhaps you are minimizing the threat Iran poses.

 

[skye]

wow, for sure they are so trust worthy they would never turn around and use a nuke on any other country. LIKE US for one

greenwald is an idiot

1. Glenn Greenwald
   Lawyer
2. Glenn Edward Greenwald is an American lawyer, journalist and author. He was a columnist for Guardian US from August 2012 to October 2013. He was a columnist for Salon.com from 2007 to 2012, and an occasional contributor to The Guardian.

he should stick to chasing ambulances.

Like the US did to Japan?

who started that one? Iran has made no bones about wanting to take over other countries. yet you all sit here saying, well ok then lets just give them the nuke. they can't be serious

Actually the US was committing Economic terrorism against Japan and Japan reacted like the US knew they would do. Even so NOTHING justifies the US using a nuclear weapon to murder hundreds of thousands of civilians. What countries has Iran wanted to take over? Oh and it being the ME. WHO CARES If they do want to take over another nation which I find to be bullshit and made up lies by you and other republitards.

What a sweet little boy you seem to be

Tell me what role Religion might ply in Iran and their....desires?

almost all of his posts are antisemitic.

straight from Stormfront

 

[Preacher]

My main worry is that an Iranian nuke would fall into the hands of a radical jihad organization. Same with a Saudi nuke. Especially of the backpack variety.

Iran is a radical jihad organization.

Where the fuck have you been?

Lol oh yes...they are right up there with ISIS...

Nice. Condescending, as if you comprehend the issue. Or
perhaps you are minimizing the threat Iran poses.

What threat does Iran pose to America? If they were such a threat why did they not attack military forces when we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan and how their hands full with the Taliban and Al Qaeda? They are no threat. Period.

wow, for sure they are so trust worthy they would never turn around and use a nuke on any other country. LIKE US for one

greenwald is an idiot

1. Glenn Greenwald
   Lawyer
2. Glenn Edward Greenwald is an American lawyer, journalist and author. He was a columnist for Guardian US from August 2012 to October 2013. He was a columnist for Salon.com from 2007 to 2012, and an occasional contributor to The Guardian.

he should stick to chasing ambulances.

Like the US did to Japan?

who started that one? Iran has made no bones about wanting to take over other countries. yet you all sit here saying, well ok then lets just give them the nuke. they can't be serious

Actually the US was committing Economic terrorism against Japan and Japan reacted like the US knew they would do. Even so NOTHING justifies the US using a nuclear weapon to murder hundreds of thousands of civilians. What countries has Iran wanted to take over? Oh and it being the ME. WHO CARES If they do want to take over another nation which I find to be bullshit and made up lies by you and other republitards.

What a sweet little boy you seem to be

Tell me what role Religion might ply in Iran and their....desires?

almost all of his posts are antisemitic.

straight from Stormfront

And that has WHAT to do with Iran or this thread? Oh and its Anti JEW not anti Semitic.

 

[GWV5903]

Glenn Greenwald The true reason US fears Iranian nukes they can deter US attacks Information Clearing House ICH

That Iran will use its nuclear weapons against the US and Israel is rather obviously the centerpiece of the fear-mongering campaign against Tehran, to build popular support for threats to launch an aggressive attack in order to prevent them from acquiring that weapon. So what, then, is the real reason that so many people in both the US and Israeli governments are so desperate to stop Iranian proliferation?

Every now and then, they reveal the real reason: Iranian nuclear weapons would prevent the US from attacking Iran at will, and that is what is intolerable. The latest person to unwittingly reveal the real reason for viewing an Iranian nuclear capacity as unacceptable was GOP Senator Lindsey Graham, one of the US's most reliable and bloodthirsty warmongers.

On Monday, Graham spoke in North Augusta, South Carolina, and was asked about the way in which sanctions were harming ordinary Iranians. Ayman Hossam Fadel was present and recorded the exchange. Answering that question, Graham praised President Obama for threatening Iran with war over nuclear weapons, decreed that "the Iranian people should be willing to suffer now for a better future," and then – invoking the trite neocon script that is hauled out whenever new wars are being justified – analogized Iranian nukes to Hitler in the 1930s. But in the middle of his answer, he explained the real reason Iranian nuclear weapons should be feared:

"They have two goals: one, regime survival. The best way for the regime surviving, in their mind, is having a nuclear weapon, because when you have a nuclear weapon, nobody attacks you."

Graham added that the second regime goal is "influence", that "people listen to you" when you have a nuclear weapon. In other words, we cannot let Iran acquire nuclear weapons because if they get them, we can no longer attack them when we want to and can no longer bully them in their own region.

Bolded is exact truth.

Yeah we should start shipping them enriched Uranium tomorrow...

The have such an energy shortage and we are such a threat, I mean how many times now have we invaded Iran?

Too many times to count...

 

[EricJ]

Glenn Greenwald The true reason US fears Iranian nukes they can deter US attacks Information Clearing House ICH

That Iran will use its nuclear weapons against the US and Israel is rather obviously the centerpiece of the fear-mongering campaign against Tehran, to build popular support for threats to launch an aggressive attack in order to prevent them from acquiring that weapon. So what, then, is the real reason that so many people in both the US and Israeli governments are so desperate to stop Iranian proliferation?

Every now and then, they reveal the real reason: Iranian nuclear weapons would prevent the US from attacking Iran at will, and that is what is intolerable. The latest person to unwittingly reveal the real reason for viewing an Iranian nuclear capacity as unacceptable was GOP Senator Lindsey Graham, one of the US's most reliable and bloodthirsty warmongers.

On Monday, Graham spoke in North Augusta, South Carolina, and was asked about the way in which sanctions were harming ordinary Iranians. Ayman Hossam Fadel was present and recorded the exchange. Answering that question, Graham praised President Obama for threatening Iran with war over nuclear weapons, decreed that "the Iranian people should be willing to suffer now for a better future," and then – invoking the trite neocon script that is hauled out whenever new wars are being justified – analogized Iranian nukes to Hitler in the 1930s. But in the middle of his answer, he explained the real reason Iranian nuclear weapons should be feared:

"They have two goals: one, regime survival. The best way for the regime surviving, in their mind, is having a nuclear weapon, because when you have a nuclear weapon, nobody attacks you."

Graham added that the second regime goal is "influence", that "people listen to you" when you have a nuclear weapon. In other words, we cannot let Iran acquire nuclear weapons because if they get them, we can no longer attack them when we want to and can no longer bully them in their own region.

Bolded is exact truth.

Yeah we should start shipping them enriched Uranium tomorrow...

The have such an energy shortage and we are such a threat, I mean how many times now have we invaded Iran?

Too many times to count...

Love that reducio ad absurdum argument. Seems to be a staple on this form.

 

[Preacher]

Glenn Greenwald The true reason US fears Iranian nukes they can deter US attacks Information Clearing House ICH

That Iran will use its nuclear weapons against the US and Israel is rather obviously the centerpiece of the fear-mongering campaign against Tehran, to build popular support for threats to launch an aggressive attack in order to prevent them from acquiring that weapon. So what, then, is the real reason that so many people in both the US and Israeli governments are so desperate to stop Iranian proliferation?

Every now and then, they reveal the real reason: Iranian nuclear weapons would prevent the US from attacking Iran at will, and that is what is intolerable. The latest person to unwittingly reveal the real reason for viewing an Iranian nuclear capacity as unacceptable was GOP Senator Lindsey Graham, one of the US's most reliable and bloodthirsty warmongers.

On Monday, Graham spoke in North Augusta, South Carolina, and was asked about the way in which sanctions were harming ordinary Iranians. Ayman Hossam Fadel was present and recorded the exchange. Answering that question, Graham praised President Obama for threatening Iran with war over nuclear weapons, decreed that "the Iranian people should be willing to suffer now for a better future," and then – invoking the trite neocon script that is hauled out whenever new wars are being justified – analogized Iranian nukes to Hitler in the 1930s. But in the middle of his answer, he explained the real reason Iranian nuclear weapons should be feared:

"They have two goals: one, regime survival. The best way for the regime surviving, in their mind, is having a nuclear weapon, because when you have a nuclear weapon, nobody attacks you."

Graham added that the second regime goal is "influence", that "people listen to you" when you have a nuclear weapon. In other words, we cannot let Iran acquire nuclear weapons because if they get them, we can no longer attack them when we want to and can no longer bully them in their own region.

Bolded is exact truth.

Yeah we should start shipping them enriched Uranium tomorrow...

The have such an energy shortage and we are such a threat, I mean how many times now have we invaded Iran?

Too many times to count...

How many times has the US threatened to? War drums haven't stopped beating since at least 2000.

 

[HenryBHough]

Please don't tell Obama.....

He could prevent any future Iranian attack on America simply by deporting or killing all our Jews.

Please don't tell.....

 

[MaryL]

Iran took our embassy workers, they constantly connive and act against the west and America. They give Hamas rockets and aid against Israel. Hamas killed over 250 American Marines in Beirut in 83. Their government hates Americans sooooo much I wouldn't put it past them to slip a dirty bomb they developed out of this program to aid terrorist to hurt the west. And It WILL happen.

 

[Preacher]

Iran took our embassy workers, they constantly connive and act against the west and America. They give Hamas rockets and aid against Israel. Hamas killed over 250 American Marines in Beirut in 83. Their government hates Americans sooooo much I wouldn't put it past them to slip a dirty bomb they developed out of this program to aid terrorist to hurt the west. And It WILL happen.

Now I know you are full of SHIT. Its not Hamas you moron it was Hezbollah. The REASON they took the embassy is back in the 50's the CIA helped overthrow their legally elected leader and install a vicious dictator which took Iran down a horrible path. Taking the embassy hostage was tough shit...its what happens to innocent people when the people the US fucked over decide enough is enough and take back their country from a puppet dictatorship. Iran with 1 nuclear weapon is not DUMB ENOUGH to fuck with us or Israel for that matter. Israel and us both have over 300 nukes. Iran having a nuke would merely level the playing field in Iran and make Israel and the US take Iran seriously as a ME player just like they are now. Its coming so get used to it.

 

[MaryL]

Really. Aren't you nice. I see your prejudice shining through. Iran had no lawful reason to take hostages, and Hezbola/Hamas what is the point? Same difference. And Iran has no need of nuclear power or weapons. Are you kidding?

 

[Donald Polish]

Glenn Greenwald The true reason US fears Iranian nukes they can deter US attacks Information Clearing House ICH

That Iran will use its nuclear weapons against the US and Israel is rather obviously the centerpiece of the fear-mongering campaign against Tehran, to build popular support for threats to launch an aggressive attack in order to prevent them from acquiring that weapon. So what, then, is the real reason that so many people in both the US and Israeli governments are so desperate to stop Iranian proliferation?

Every now and then, they reveal the real reason: Iranian nuclear weapons would prevent the US from attacking Iran at will, and that is what is intolerable. The latest person to unwittingly reveal the real reason for viewing an Iranian nuclear capacity as unacceptable was GOP Senator Lindsey Graham, one of the US's most reliable and bloodthirsty warmongers.

On Monday, Graham spoke in North Augusta, South Carolina, and was asked about the way in which sanctions were harming ordinary Iranians. Ayman Hossam Fadel was present and recorded the exchange. Answering that question, Graham praised President Obama for threatening Iran with war over nuclear weapons, decreed that "the Iranian people should be willing to suffer now for a better future," and then – invoking the trite neocon script that is hauled out whenever new wars are being justified – analogized Iranian nukes to Hitler in the 1930s. But in the middle of his answer, he explained the real reason Iranian nuclear weapons should be feared:

"They have two goals: one, regime survival. The best way for the regime surviving, in their mind, is having a nuclear weapon, because when you have a nuclear weapon, nobody attacks you."

Graham added that the second regime goal is "influence", that "people listen to you" when you have a nuclear weapon. In other words, we cannot let Iran acquire nuclear weapons because if they get them, we can no longer attack them when we want to and can no longer bully them in their own region.

Bolded is exact truth.

You may call me naive or ignorant BUT I still believe that our Government cares about Israeli security.
Iran with a real nuke will disturb the balance in the region. Iran is a real rival to Saudi Arabia or Israel.

 

[Preacher]

Glenn Greenwald The true reason US fears Iranian nukes they can deter US attacks Information Clearing House ICH

That Iran will use its nuclear weapons against the US and Israel is rather obviously the centerpiece of the fear-mongering campaign against Tehran, to build popular support for threats to launch an aggressive attack in order to prevent them from acquiring that weapon. So what, then, is the real reason that so many people in both the US and Israeli governments are so desperate to stop Iranian proliferation?

Every now and then, they reveal the real reason: Iranian nuclear weapons would prevent the US from attacking Iran at will, and that is what is intolerable. The latest person to unwittingly reveal the real reason for viewing an Iranian nuclear capacity as unacceptable was GOP Senator Lindsey Graham, one of the US's most reliable and bloodthirsty warmongers.

On Monday, Graham spoke in North Augusta, South Carolina, and was asked about the way in which sanctions were harming ordinary Iranians. Ayman Hossam Fadel was present and recorded the exchange. Answering that question, Graham praised President Obama for threatening Iran with war over nuclear weapons, decreed that "the Iranian people should be willing to suffer now for a better future," and then – invoking the trite neocon script that is hauled out whenever new wars are being justified – analogized Iranian nukes to Hitler in the 1930s. But in the middle of his answer, he explained the real reason Iranian nuclear weapons should be feared:

"They have two goals: one, regime survival. The best way for the regime surviving, in their mind, is having a nuclear weapon, because when you have a nuclear weapon, nobody attacks you."

Graham added that the second regime goal is "influence", that "people listen to you" when you have a nuclear weapon. In other words, we cannot let Iran acquire nuclear weapons because if they get them, we can no longer attack them when we want to and can no longer bully them in their own region.

Bolded is exact truth.

You may call me naive or ignorant BUT I still believe that our Government cares about Israeli security.
Iran with a real nuke will disturb the balance in the region. Iran is a real rival to Saudi Arabia or Israel.

You are right on both counts. But we should leave Israel to their own security they have fought what 3 wars? and beaten back MULTIPLE armies and won? SA is a terrorist haven and even worse than Iran ever will be.

 

[Preacher]

Really. Aren't you nice. I see your prejudice shining through. Iran had no lawful reason to take hostages, and Hezbola/Hamas what is the point? Same difference. And Iran has no need of nuclear power or weapons. Are you kidding?

Every lawful reason that the US ILLEGALLY used to overthrow their elected leader in the 50's. Fuck with people they fuck with you back. Iran has every need for a nuke power and weapons as much as Israel does. And they will get it.

 

[MaryL]

Iran acts like an child. I remember the Shaw Pahlavi , and I get that Iran doesn't like Americans. I get that they kidnapped American embassy back in 78'. That was an act of war, plain pure and simple.

 

[Donald Polish]

Glenn Greenwald The true reason US fears Iranian nukes they can deter US attacks Information Clearing House ICH

That Iran will use its nuclear weapons against the US and Israel is rather obviously the centerpiece of the fear-mongering campaign against Tehran, to build popular support for threats to launch an aggressive attack in order to prevent them from acquiring that weapon. So what, then, is the real reason that so many people in both the US and Israeli governments are so desperate to stop Iranian proliferation?

Every now and then, they reveal the real reason: Iranian nuclear weapons would prevent the US from attacking Iran at will, and that is what is intolerable. The latest person to unwittingly reveal the real reason for viewing an Iranian nuclear capacity as unacceptable was GOP Senator Lindsey Graham, one of the US's most reliable and bloodthirsty warmongers.

On Monday, Graham spoke in North Augusta, South Carolina, and was asked about the way in which sanctions were harming ordinary Iranians. Ayman Hossam Fadel was present and recorded the exchange. Answering that question, Graham praised President Obama for threatening Iran with war over nuclear weapons, decreed that "the Iranian people should be willing to suffer now for a better future," and then – invoking the trite neocon script that is hauled out whenever new wars are being justified – analogized Iranian nukes to Hitler in the 1930s. But in the middle of his answer, he explained the real reason Iranian nuclear weapons should be feared:

"They have two goals: one, regime survival. The best way for the regime surviving, in their mind, is having a nuclear weapon, because when you have a nuclear weapon, nobody attacks you."

Graham added that the second regime goal is "influence", that "people listen to you" when you have a nuclear weapon. In other words, we cannot let Iran acquire nuclear weapons because if they get them, we can no longer attack them when we want to and can no longer bully them in their own region.

Bolded is exact truth.

You may call me naive or ignorant BUT I still believe that our Government cares about Israeli security.
Iran with a real nuke will disturb the balance in the region. Iran is a real rival to Saudi Arabia or Israel.

You are right on both counts. But we should leave Israel to their own security they have fought what 3 wars? and beaten back MULTIPLE armies and won? SA is a terrorist haven and even worse than Iran ever will be.

Agree. Saudis are not good allies for us. But we negotiate with them closing eyes on their obvious terrorist activity. Israel won. It's true. But did not Americans pay for this bloody victory? As for me Iran is not the worst variant...

 

[Preacher]

Iran acts like an child. I remember the Shaw Pahlavi , and I get that Iran doesn't like Americans. I get that they kidnapped American embassy back in 78'. That was an act of war, plain pure and simple.

That was what 36 years ago? Time to get over it.

 

[Antares]

Iran took our embassy workers, they constantly connive and act against the west and America. They give Hamas rockets and aid against Israel. Hamas killed over 250 American Marines in Beirut in 83. Their government hates Americans sooooo much I wouldn't put it past them to slip a dirty bomb they developed out of this program to aid terrorist to hurt the west. And It WILL happen.

Now I know you are full of SHIT. Its not Hamas you moron it was Hezbollah. The REASON they took the embassy is back in the 50's the CIA helped overthrow their legally elected leader and install a vicious dictator which took Iran down a horrible path. Taking the embassy hostage was tough shit...its what happens to innocent people when the people the US fucked over decide enough is enough and take back their country from a puppet dictatorship. Iran with 1 nuclear weapon is not DUMB ENOUGH to fuck with us or Israel for that matter. Israel and us both have over 300 nukes. Iran having a nuke would merely level the playing field in Iran and make Israel and the US take Iran seriously as a ME player just like they are now. Its coming so get used to it.

Aren't you just a pleasant little boy?

You don't know shit about Iran

Not a damn thing.

 

[Preacher]

Iran took our embassy workers, they constantly connive and act against the west and America. They give Hamas rockets and aid against Israel. Hamas killed over 250 American Marines in Beirut in 83. Their government hates Americans sooooo much I wouldn't put it past them to slip a dirty bomb they developed out of this program to aid terrorist to hurt the west. And It WILL happen.

Now I know you are full of SHIT. Its not Hamas you moron it was Hezbollah. The REASON they took the embassy is back in the 50's the CIA helped overthrow their legally elected leader and install a vicious dictator which took Iran down a horrible path. Taking the embassy hostage was tough shit...its what happens to innocent people when the people the US fucked over decide enough is enough and take back their country from a puppet dictatorship. Iran with 1 nuclear weapon is not DUMB ENOUGH to fuck with us or Israel for that matter. Israel and us both have over 300 nukes. Iran having a nuke would merely level the playing field in Iran and make Israel and the US take Iran seriously as a ME player just like they are now. Its coming so get used to it.

Aren't you just a pleasant little boy?

You don't know shit about Iran

Not a damn thing.

Amaze us with some of your made up "facts" my boy...I am waiting.

 

[Antares]

Iran took our embassy workers, they constantly connive and act against the west and America. They give Hamas rockets and aid against Israel. Hamas killed over 250 American Marines in Beirut in 83. Their government hates Americans sooooo much I wouldn't put it past them to slip a dirty bomb they developed out of this program to aid terrorist to hurt the west. And It WILL happen.

Now I know you are full of SHIT. Its not Hamas you moron it was Hezbollah. The REASON they took the embassy is back in the 50's the CIA helped overthrow their legally elected leader and install a vicious dictator which took Iran down a horrible path. Taking the embassy hostage was tough shit...its what happens to innocent people when the people the US fucked over decide enough is enough and take back their country from a puppet dictatorship. Iran with 1 nuclear weapon is not DUMB ENOUGH to fuck with us or Israel for that matter. Israel and us both have over 300 nukes. Iran having a nuke would merely level the playing field in Iran and make Israel and the US take Iran seriously as a ME player just like they are now. Its coming so get used to it.

Aren't you just a pleasant little boy?

You don't know shit about Iran

Not a damn thing.

Amaze us with some of your made up "facts" my boy...I am waiting.

(smile) I don't need to amaze you with anything kid you are just another America piece of shit.

You like "pretending" that the Religious Leaders of Iran (Who practice the ONLY religion that counts there) aren't driven by it.

They are ,I've asked you before kid, what Religion do they practice, more specifically what sect of said Religion do they practice?