Zone1 the RCC is not from God

ChURch. As a little kid attending catechism classes, one of the first things taught was, "You are the Church. You can forget about the Pope, the Vatican, the priests and nuns, the hierarchy, but never forget you are the Church. This was drilled into us in religion classes.

The number of Catholics world-wide reaches into the billions, though I suspect the number of good, practicing Catholics may be somewhat less. ;) Look at the complaints against the Catholic Church: The Pope said this; the Vatican did this; about three percent of priests did that. The complaints about Catholics as a whole are hysterical (at least Catholics find them so). These false accusations include worshiping Mary and graven images, praying like pagans, the pope and every word he speaks is infallible. Some still taunt us for being cannibals.

The Catholic Church is, and always has been, believers following Christ. It's that simple. Like all humans, we do that imperfectly, but we continue to stumble along after him, carrying our crosses, learning to love God and our fellow man.

What church has the same understanding of salvation by God's grace that is known from the Bible? Such church is fine to go to, as long as those there are seen remaining faithful. Works of salvation come from those growing with fruits of the Spirit in the faith through Christ with which there is salvation by God's grace.
 
I can't think of a better tactic to discredit all of Christianity than to discredit the organization which codified its practices.

It never ceases to amaze me how my fellow "Christians" can't see who they are working for.
I knew ding would not like this thread. Oh! This is Zone1. Gotta go! :scared1:
 
What church has the same understanding of salvation by God's grace that is known from the Bible? Such church is fine to go to, as long as those there are seen remaining faithful. Works of salvation come from those growing with fruits of the Spirit in the faith through Christ with which there is salvation by God's grace.
Many churches actually do not have a thoroughly right view of God's grace, but this view that is important is with focus on Christ with the work for redemption, not just something bestowed for doing godly works. Christ accomplished what is needed for atonement with all that he bore for us with that brutal execution and his unnatural separation from the heavenly Father right then. His resurrection which was needed proves the effectiveness, that we should come in faith to Christ, and this is directly, not from anything that the church being involved is needed for.
 
So much bigoted nonsense on this forum. It need not be so. This should be a positive, uplifting forum.

- that easily is accomplished by rewriting all 3 desert religions into a single copy that is true and to unk's pleasing attitude in less than 15 minutes, their similarities not disguised purposely being the same ... give that a thumbs up.
 
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