Zone1 the RCC is not from God

[ding]

The RCC and all othe orgs are human institutions trying to divine inspired purpose.

For the most part.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

For the most part.

well, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is led by a Prophet of God,

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

well, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is led by a Prophet of God,

I have been hearing that almost all of my life.

 

[ding]

well, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is led by a Prophet of God,

I'm sure you believe that.

 

[kjw47]

well, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is led by a Prophet of God,

Imagine that.

 

[FredVegbarfuss]

ChURch. As a little kid attending catechism classes, one of the first things taught was, "You are the Church. You can forget about the Pope, the Vatican, the priests and nuns, the hierarchy, but never forget you are the Church. This was drilled into us in religion classes.

The number of Catholics world-wide reaches into the billions, though I suspect the number of good, practicing Catholics may be somewhat less. Look at the complaints against the Catholic Church: The Pope said this; the Vatican did this; about three percent of priests did that. The complaints about Catholics as a whole are hysterical (at least Catholics find them so). These false accusations include worshiping Mary and graven images, praying like pagans, the pope and every word he speaks is infallible. Some still taunt us for being cannibals.

The Catholic Church is, and always has been, believers following Christ. It's that simple. Like all humans, we do that imperfectly, but we continue to stumble along after him, carrying our crosses, learning to love God and our fellow man.

What church has the same understanding of salvation by God's grace that is known from the Bible? Such church is fine to go to, as long as those there are seen remaining faithful. Works of salvation come from those growing with fruits of the Spirit in the faith through Christ with which there is salvation by God's grace.

 

[The Duke]

I can't think of a better tactic to discredit all of Christianity than to discredit the organization which codified its practices.

It never ceases to amaze me how my fellow "Christians" can't see who they are working for.

I knew ding would not like this thread. Oh! This is Zone1. Gotta go!

 

[Unkotare]

So much bigoted nonsense on this forum. It need not be so. This should be a positive, uplifting forum.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

So much bigoted nonsense on this forum. It need not be so. This should be a positive, uplifting forum.

Truth is positive

 

[Carl in Michigan]

well, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is led by a Prophet of God,

You mean, "a prophet of god"

 

[Unkotare]

Truth is positive

And of course you know the truth...

 

[FredVegbarfuss]

What church has the same understanding of salvation by God's grace that is known from the Bible? Such church is fine to go to, as long as those there are seen remaining faithful. Works of salvation come from those growing with fruits of the Spirit in the faith through Christ with which there is salvation by God's grace.

Many churches actually do not have a thoroughly right view of God's grace, but this view that is important is with focus on Christ with the work for redemption, not just something bestowed for doing godly works. Christ accomplished what is needed for atonement with all that he bore for us with that brutal execution and his unnatural separation from the heavenly Father right then. His resurrection which was needed proves the effectiveness, that we should come in faith to Christ, and this is directly, not from anything that the church being involved is needed for.

 

[ding]

So much bigoted nonsense on this forum. It need not be so. This should be a positive, uplifting forum.

Amen

 

[BreezeWood]

So much bigoted nonsense on this forum. It need not be so. This should be a positive, uplifting forum.

- that easily is accomplished by rewriting all 3 desert religions into a single copy that is true and to unk's pleasing attitude in less than 15 minutes, their similarities not disguised purposely being the same ... give that a thumbs up.

 

[FredVegbarfuss]

What is the agreement between Christianity, Judaism, And Islam? There is one God...
There is submission to God's will that is right...
There is mercy possible from the one God...
There should not be acknowledgement of other gods, that make the one God comparable to them.

Am I missing anything else? If that is it, there is a whole lot left out. Who is the one God, to know what God is like? What is God's will, really? How is God's mercy obtained? And there are certainly more distinctions that are not considered available for compromise.

 

[Meriweather]

Am I missing anything else? If that is it, there is a whole lot left out. Who is the one God, to know what God is like? What is God's will, really? How is God's mercy obtained? And there are certainly more distinctions that are not considered available for compromise.

I am Third sums it up well. The Lord is first; my friends are second; I am third.

God is love and he made us to know and be love, too. The entire Ten Commandments are designed, not so much commands insisting on obedience, but rather a map that navigates us through a happy, fulfilling life. The Commandments are not for God's benefit, but for our own, because God loves us and wants the best for us--not for His sake but for our own. Love is like that.

God's will? Often it is doing the right thing instead of the easy thing. Start with, See a need, fill a need. And keep in mind, The Lord is first and you are third.

God's mercy? We are apprentices when it comes to living rightly and in loving God and others. We are going to stumble and turn away from doing right, being loving. God's mercy brings us back and/or is there for us when we turn back.

 

[zaangalewa]

the RCC is not from God​

Don't let this hear your pope from the ACUWDS (Anti-church of the unholy Washington dividers and splitters)

Shouldn't we perhaps really look into the fact that this man doesn't belong at the firing button of nuclear missiles but in a mental asylum?

 

[hadit]

Don't let this hear your pope from the ACUWDS (Anti-church of the unholy Washington dividers and splitters)

Shouldn't we perhaps really look into the fact that this man doesn't belong at the firing button of nuclear missiles but in a mental asylum?

Not in this thread, no.

 

[zaangalewa]

Not in this thread, no.

Why not? Donald Trump visits the funeral of the Pope in the name of the USA. The same time is the USA one of the worst enemies of the Holy Catholic Church including the atheist who is currently president of the USA.

 

[hadit]

Why not?

Because it's about the Catholic Church.