Zone1 Why the Catholic and Orthodox Churches are heretical

[marvin martian]

Lifelong Catholic here, and I've never been personally asked for money by the Church.

Every founder of a Protestant sect changed the rules of divorce so that they could marry. They relaxed the rules for personal selfish reasons. So it wasn't about so-called reforming abuses in the Catholic Church; it was about wholesale changes to allow their founders to do whatever they wanted. That should be the first clue for Protestants that their Churches were built on sand foundations. Founded by men. The RCC was founded by Jesus Christ.

Same for me, and I am Orthodox Christian.

 

[Meriweather]

I listen to Bishop Barron, too! His Sunday homilies are worth it.

 

[MisterBeale]

 

[MisterBeale]

I listen to Bishop Barron, too! His Sunday homilies are worth it.

It is an absolutely, absurd on its face, that the Church is a creation of Rome.

The Church conquered Rome and fulfilled the prophecies in Revelations.


. . . but, some have their own interpretations, and really do believe that Revelations' prophecy has not yet been fulfilled.

 

[Meriweather]

It is an absolutely, absurd on its face, that the Church is a creation of Rome.

Clearly, when it comes to history, schools need to emphasize the importance of primary sources.

 

[ninja007]

To my knowledge, these churches claim that the Bible is not for private interpretation, and assert themselves as the sole authority to interpret scripture.

However, if one reads the Bible, we can see that this, and many of their teachings are heretical, and have no basis in Christ.

Christ clearly says that people are saved through Him, not through a church. And that the Kingdom of God is not an outwardly kingdom, such as a church, but an inward one.

The Catholic and Orthodox Churches likely invented these teachings as a way of acquiring money from and political power over people. Thankfully, the Protestant Reformation and the advent of the printing press helped to put an end to this, and allowed people to read and interpret the Bible in their own languages.

Based on this, I would say that the Catholic and Orthodox churches are not Christian. They're merely institutions for acquiring money and political power, and were considered the equivalent of a megacorporation in the Middle Ages.

john 3 16. simple.

 

[ninja007]

You should be very careful. You could, wittingly or otherwise, be rejecting the Church Christ founded, and I say you are.

Who am I, you may ask?

I have studied Catholicism in depth. I have also been Catholic all my life (not a "new church Catholic" but a real one. I reject Vatican II, etc...).

I have read the entire Bible twice through and it is VERY Catholic.

As you may know, God was very specific in the days of Moses when he set up the way HE wanted humans to worship Him. The details are in the Old Testament books of Deuteronomy and Leviticus and etc... When Aaron's sons offered up a sacrifice improperly, they were taken out of this world.. They offered, as it was called, "strange fire." Aaron was heartbroken over the loss.

Wow, capital punishment for not worshipping properly.... whoda thunk it?

But then maybe protestants don't accept those parts of the Bible...?

Then there's the story of Oza who touched the Ark of the Covenant when only the Levite PRIESTS were supposed to touch it...

same thing:

death sentence

salvation is easy. the rcc is a cult. john 3 16. pretty damn simple.

 

[ding]

salvation is easy. the rcc is a cult. john 3 16. pretty damn simple.

You belong to a church founded by an apostate so it’s not surprising you believe as you do.

 

[Midnight FM]

You belong to a church founded by an apostate so it’s not surprising you believe as you do.

The Catholic Church is heretical, and if one reads the Bible, they'll see where many of its heresies were invented.

Such as how the Bible never mandated priesthood celibacy. Paul simply stated that it may be better not to marry, but never required that of anyone, and gave permission to marry to those who felt they couldn't contain themselves.

 

[ding]

The Catholic Church is heretical, and if one reads the Bible, they'll see where many of its heresies were invented.

Such as how the Bible never mandated priesthood celibacy. Paul simply stated that it may be better not to marry, but never required that of anyone, and gave permission to marry to those who felt they couldn't contain themselves.

I’m sure you believe it is.

 

[Midnight FM]

I’m sure you believe it is.

Read the Bible, find out for yourself. There are lots of heresies they invented by cherry-picking or distorting parts of the New Testament.

Such as how their official doctrine is against divorce (they only permit annulment), when, in actuality, Paul gave specific requirements for how a marriage should be (such as both parties being sexually available to each other), meaning that it's presumable that, if the requirements aren't met, that there are grounds for a divorce.

 

[ding]

Read the Bible, find out for yourself. There are lots of heresies they invented by cherry-picking or distorting parts of the New Testament.

Such as how their official doctrine is against divorce (they only permit annulment), when, in actuality, Paul gave specific requirements for how a marriage should be (such as both parties being sexually available to each other), meaning that it's presumable that, if the requirements aren't met, that there are grounds for a divorce.

I have. You shouldn’t be driving cars because that’s not in the Bible. Don’t be a catholic.

 

[Midnight FM]

I have. You shouldn’t be driving cars because that’s not in the Bible. Don’t be a catholic.

The point is that they came up with things which were based only on a small part of the Bible, but taken out of the context of the whole, or interpreted in a specific way, when, in reality, the text is open to multiple interpretations.

 

[ding]

The point is that they came up with things which were based only on a small part of the Bible, but taken out of the context of the whole, or interpreted in a specific way, when, in reality, the text is open to multiple interpretations.

The point is you are a rival religion attacking the religion of a rival. Here’s a few verses you might want to familiarize yourself with considering you think it’s so important to follow the words of the Bible and all.

2 Timothy 2:23-26, 2 Timothy 2:14, Matthew 12:25, Matthew 18:15-16, Romans 14:1-23, Romans 16:17-18, 1 Corinthians 3:3, 1 Corinthians 13:1-2, 1 John 4:20-21, Proverbs 6:16-19, Proverbs 28:25, Galatians 5:15, Galatians 5:19-21, Titus 3:10, Jude 1:19, Ephesians 4:3-6, Ephesians 4:31-32, Colossians 3:12-14, 1 Corinthians 12:25, 1 Peter 3:8, Philippians 2:1-2, John 17:20-23, Mark 3:24-25, Luke 11:17 and James 3:16.