The radicalization of the left

[Mac1958]

The Left has become what it used to despise.

 

[Seawytch]

It's not me you'll have to take seriously. The FBI, CIA, House and Senate Intelligence committees and the Press? I guess that'll be up to you.

Any day now, right?

Patience. Evidence takes time to collect and some investigations have only just started...some of them sputtering.

Trump: Take this "evidence" and then have a press conference saying you're about to give us this new information.

Nunez: Herp derp, okay.

 

[JoeB131]

The Left has become what it used to despise.

Naw, man.. only person getting upset about it is you... just because you spend your days sucking up to insecure white people doesn't mean the rest of us have to.

 

[fncceo]

sucking up to insecure white people

Oh yea... make it about race and identity... it's been working so well for you so far.

How about the icing of calling your fellow Americans 'deplorable'.

 

[JoeB131]

Oh yea... make it about race and identity... it's been working so well for you so far.

How about the icing of calling your fellow Americans 'deplorable'.

People who voted for Trump aren't just deplorable, they are fucking stupid.

 

[Mac1958]

sucking up to insecure white people

Oh yea... make it about race and identity... it's been working so well for you so far.

He's consumed by skin color and white guilt.

Imagine going through life like that.
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[JoeB131]

He's consumed by skin color and white guilt.

Imagine going through life like that.

I'm a pragmatist.

I realize racism is how the one percent get the stupids to go along with it.

Along with religion, homophobia and other bits of crazy.

It's how you get the unemployed coal miner in OH to vote Republican year after year.

 

[Seawytch]

How about the icing of calling your fellow Americans 'deplorable'.

You don't think racism, sexism, xenophobia and homophobia are deplorable?

 

[Mac1958]

How about the icing of calling your fellow Americans 'deplorable'.

You don't think racism, sexism, xenophobia and homophobia are deplorable?

If this were an honest and constructive forum, the first thing we would do is agree to definitions of those words.

You can't have an honest conversation unless the terminology is the same for both parties.

Right now, those are just words, among others, tossed around as weapons.
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[Seawytch]

How about the icing of calling your fellow Americans 'deplorable'.

You don't think racism, sexism, xenophobia and homophobia are deplorable?

If this were an honest and constructive forum, the first thing we would do is agree to definitions of those words.

You can't have an honest conversation unless the terminology is the same for both parties.

Right now, those are just words, among others, tossed around as weapons.
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Trumpeter's misunderstanding of words is not the rest of the world's problem.

Hillary Clinton, when she called a portion of Trumpsters "deplorable" was speaking specifically of racism, sexism, xenophobia and homophobia.

 

[Mac1958]

How about the icing of calling your fellow Americans 'deplorable'.

You don't think racism, sexism, xenophobia and homophobia are deplorable?

If this were an honest and constructive forum, the first thing we would do is agree to definitions of those words.

You can't have an honest conversation unless the terminology is the same for both parties.

Right now, those are just words, among others, tossed around as weapons.
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Trumpeter's misunderstanding of words is not the rest of the world's problem.

Hillary Clinton, when she called a portion of Trumpsters "deplorable" was speaking specifically of racism, sexism, xenophobia and homophobia.

I'm not talking about Trump. I'm talking about having a conversation between two people who disagree.

That appears to be a lost art in the country, sadly.
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[Cellblock2429]

There was a time in this country when I could have easily worked with the left. The Kennedy-era progressives were pro-American, anti-communist, civilized people with a slightly different view on the role of government.

Today, the left is full-on socialist/communist/marxist fascists with an agenda for all things obscene and indecent (you wouldn't have found a single Kennedy-era progressive advocating for men to use women's facilities). And back in that era - killing a baby was ghastly. Now, the left celebrates it - going so far as to start a "#ShoutYourAbortion" hashtag on twitter for women to proudly share their stories of having an abortion.

Just look at what Planned Parenthood used to be before the left because so unhinged and radical...

In the 1950s, Planned Parenthood Called Abortion Killing

They have completely lost it indeed.

What could they come up with next? It's hard to even fathom how they could devolve more from their current state. Perhaps next they will declare that we need to ban dentistry - after all dentists make teeth straight and white. Ah, I better not give them any new ideas.

/---- For years Brits outlawed teeth whitening by dentists

 

[ptbw forever]

There is no radicalization of the left.

Did you know that Hillary Clinton won the Moderate vote by 12 points? Obama also won the Moderate vote twice by double digits.

How is it that the Democratic Party easily dominates Republicans among Moderates if the party has moved too far to the left?

So "moderates" aren't "independents" anymore?

 

[ptbw forever]

There are people in the party who know it, there are traditional liberals who know it. What is not known yet is what to do about it.

You'll see an opinion piece here and there, I've posted a few. But the party is still a ways from a serious self-examination.

Guy, Democrats are not going to win by embracing homophobia or racism, or by pretending it's okay.

We've heard this song for a long time... but the fact is, the GOP has mastered getting white people to vote against their own interests when times are good and they aren't looking at foreclosure.

Democrats win when Republicans fuck things up and put us into recessions. Then just enough white people vote for Democrats so they can fix things.

(Although, to be fair, the last time Democrats won the white vote was in 1964).

So the idea that you are going to win over white people by enabling their racism and misogyny is just kind of stupid. You just sell out your principles.

To vote Democrat would be to vote DIRECTLY against your own interests as a white person.

The only white people who vote for Democrats today are stoners and masochistic cuckold types.

 

[P@triot]

To vote Democrat would be to vote DIRECTLY against your own interests as a white person.

White people?!? Dude...it's against the interest of any person to vote Dumbocrat. All they do is collapse cities, counties, states, and nations with their failed ideology.

 

[P@triot]

Reagan gave amnesty to illegals.

Which was idiotic. You don't reward criminals.

Ronald Reagan raised taxes in 1986 after he realized supply side didn't work. that would never be tolerated today.

This is one of your favorite lies. And it's one of your most outrageous lies. Ronald Reagan drastically reduced taxes in his first year. After the deficits (thanks to unconstitutional, failed left-wing socialist programs) were too high - he slightly raised them. The taxes were still drastically lower after that increase than before he was in office.

By the way snowflake - Reagan's economic polices worked flawlessly. He oversaw the biggest recovery in U.S. history and oversaw one of the most robust and successful economies in U.S. history. It lasted for almost 30 years before Bill Clinton's idiotic failed left-wing policies finally crashed the housing market

Reagan swapped weapons for hostages.

Again...another lie. The Iran-Contra affair wasn't about getting hostages back. It was about funding the contras efforts against the sandanistas, to stop communism. The hostages were a mere byproduct of the deal. Being that you spent your life drunk and stoned during that era - you have no idea what happened. So as usual, you just make up your own alternate reality.

At the end of the day - you claimed the party has moved away from Reagan while denying how bat-shit crazy your own radicalized party has become. I proved you wrong on both accounts.

 

[ptbw forever]

To vote Democrat would be to vote DIRECTLY against your own interests as a white person.

White people?!? Dude...it's against the interest of any person to vote Dumbocrat. All they do is collapse cities, counties, states, and nations with their failed ideology.

Democrats haven't gone directly hostile to other groups yet.

 

[NYcarbineer]

There is no radicalization of the left.

Did you know that Hillary Clinton won the Moderate vote by 12 points? Obama also won the Moderate vote twice by double digits.

How is it that the Democratic Party easily dominates Republicans among Moderates if the party has moved too far to the left?

So "moderates" aren't "independents" anymore?

No. You don't understand that because you're stupid.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Reagan gave amnesty to illegals.

Which was idiotic. You don't reward criminals.

Ronald Reagan raised taxes in 1986 after he realized supply side didn't work. that would never be tolerated today.

This is one of your favorite lies. And it's one of your most outrageous lies. Ronald Reagan drastically reduced taxes in his first year. After the deficits (thanks to unconstitutional, failed left-wing socialist programs) were too high - he slightly raised them. The taxes were still drastically lower after that increase than before he was in office.

By the way snowflake - Reagan's economic polices worked flawlessly. He oversaw the biggest recovery in U.S. history and oversaw one of the most robust and successful economies in U.S. history. It lasted for almost 30 years before Bill Clinton's idiotic failed left-wing policies finally crashed the housing market

Reagan swapped weapons for hostages.

Again...another lie. The Iran-Contra affair wasn't about getting hostages back. It was about funding the contras efforts against the sandanistas, to stop communism. The hostages were a mere byproduct of the deal. Being that you spent your life drunk and stoned during that era - you have no idea what happened. So as usual, you just make up your own alternate reality.

At the end of the day - you claimed the party has moved away from Reagan while denying how bat-shit crazy your own radicalized party has become. I proved you wrong on both accounts.

Your ignorance of history is almost as bad as Trump's.

 

[P@triot]

But since he was the only Republican President since Ike to not be voted out of office, leave the country in an economic mess or forced to resign in disgrace, he's probably the only thing you have to brag about.

That's comical. Let's take a look at your boys - shall we?

Jimmy Carter: voted out of office after a single term because he created an economic mess in the country (J.C. here meets two of your criteria!).

Bill Clinton: impeached after scandal after scandal - including perjury. Would ultimately collapse the housing market and end the economic tidal wave created by Ronald Reagan (B.C. here also meets two of your criteria!).

Barack Obama: set unimaginable record levels of deficits and national debt. Set records for most food stamps, most people out of the labor force, most scandals by an administration, and lowest approval rating at one point. On top of all of that - he became the only president to not have at least one year of 3% GDP growth. And oh yeah - he also managed to trampled on the U.S. Constitution.

If all we have is Ronald Reagan - that's one more than you have.