gipper
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The Propaganda Trash that Forum Outcasts wanted you to swallow . Which many of you did.
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The attack on the USS Liberty was friendly fire. Friendly fire happens in war time. It was thoroughly investigated. Israel had no credible motive for attacking the USS Liberty.
Toddsterpatriot
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And this kind of test wouldn't even need to be invented - NATO forces have these applicant/aptitude tests in place, providing an applicant with a score result.
The lowest requirement is 40 and the highest on average are around 90
So e.g. 40 would mean that a vote has a 40% weight, and one who scores less then 80, shouldn't be able to apply for a weapons permit.
But it will never happen since the "guarantors" for a fake democracy, desperately need those dumb and gullible ones.
gipper
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Dumb as always. Lover of murdered babies.
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Is it just an act to meet some muddled objectives of an individual beset with mental health problems, or, is it someone who tragically has no prospect of ever being a welcome member of our species ?
I had to seriously talk to him in another thread about his loutish and low IQ posts .Likely waste of time and effort.
Something has gone seriously wrong in his life because I hate the other perspective -- that he is without hope in terms of treatment and really should be locked away or be surreptitiously put to sleep .
It is clear when an apologist for blatant Zionist genocide has no argument because they only have slander as a form of rebuttal and "anti Semite" is their favorite.
Simple slander is so common among genocide's apologists that it is part of a common "Trick" common among Hasbara Trolls:
“WELL, IT’S A TRICK, WE ALWAYS USE IT. WHEN FROM EUROPE SOMEBODY IS CRITICIZING ISRAEL, THEN WE BRING UP THE HOLOCAUST. WHEN IN THIS COUNTRY (THE US) PEOPLE ARE CRITICIZING ISRAEL, THEN THEY ARE ANTI-SEMITIC…..
IT’S VERY EASY TO BLAME PEOPLE WHO CRITICIZE CERTAIN ACTS OF THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT AS ANTI-SEMITIC, AND TO BRING UP THE HOLOCAUST, AND THE SUFFERING OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE, AND THAT IS TO JUSTIFY EVERYTHING WE DO TO THE PALESTINIANS.”
Shulamit Aloni
As I expected, "Shusha" evades the fact that Netanyahu's obvious End Game is the extermination / expulsion of Gaza's residents and theft of Gaza.
Of course, "Shusha" blames the occupied and long tormented Palestinians for not being able to thrive under Israel's blockade and world's oldest and most brutal foreign funded occupation in modern history.
Meanwhile, the Israeli welfare state cannot even support itself without America's $ Trillions (4) and Zionist terrorist gangs owe the success of their Nakba to Nazi training and arms. (1)
Zionist - Nazi collaboration dates back before their Haavara Agreement of 1933 but Nazi aid, ideology and racism became cornerstones for the Zionist state.
It is a myth that Israel has ever wanted peace with Palestine's native residents because about half of Israeli Jews want those same native residents dead or gone (2)
Honest Jews and Israelis are the first to admit that Israel is only interested in stealing more land and killing the Native residents because Israel has no motive to make peace (3), when it is rewarded, armed and otherwise enabled by parasitic Zionist lobbies that still manage to extract $ Trillions (4) in spite of it innumerable violations of international law, the Geneva Convention and basic human rights.
"Shusha", like other apologists for Zionist genocide, blames Hamas for doing what every brutally occupied people have done throughout history; they resist their criminal occupiers.
Predictably, neither "Shusha" nor any other apologist for Netanyahu's genocidal agenda can name a single group of people who have not resisted brutal, foreign occupiers.
Why would Hamas or any of the subsequent resistance groups to come react any differently?
(1). “Zionism and the Third Reich”
Zionism and the Third Reich
EXCERPT “In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German flag, Jews were specifically guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. /19
Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS. /20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs. /21
In the aftermath of the November 1938 "Kristallnacht" outburst of violence and destruction, the SS quickly helped the Zionist organization to get back on its feet and continue its work in Germany, although now under more restricted supervision. /22” CONTINUED
(2). “Nearly half of Israeli Jews believe in ethnic cleansing, survey finds”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/almost-half-of-israeli-jews-want-ethnic-cleansing-palestinians-wake-up-call-survey-finds-a6919271.html
EXCERPT “Almost half of Jewish Israelis believe Arabs should be "expelled or transferred" from Israel, a survey has found." CONTINUED
(3). "Israel Does Not Want Peace"
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-does-not-want-peace-1.5253291
EXCERPT "Rejectionism is embedded in Israel's most primal beliefs. There, at the deepest level, lies the concept that this land is destined for the Jews alone.
Israel does not want peace. There is nothing I have ever written that I would be happier to be proved wrong about. But the evidence is piling up. In fact, it can be said that Israel has never wanted peace – a just peace, that is, one based on a just compromise for both sides.
The single most overwhelming item of evidence of Israel’s rejection of peace is, of course, the settlements project. From the dawn of its existence, there has never been a more reliable or more precise litmus test for Israel’s true intentions than this particular enterprise. In plain words: The builders of settlements want to consolidate the occupation, and those who want to consolidate the occupation do not want peace. That’s the whole story in a nutshell." CONTINUED
(4). "The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion"
https://www.wrmea.org/003-june/the-...israeli-palestinian-conflict-$3-trillion.html
By Thomas R. Stauffer
EXCERPT "Similarly, aid to Israel—and thus the regional total—also is understated, since much is outside of the foreign aid appropriation process or implicit in other programs. Support for Israel comes to $1.8 trillion, including special trade advantages, preferential contracts, or aid buried in other accounts. In addition to the financial outlay, U.S. aid to Israel costs some 275,000 American jobs each year."CONTINUED
Shusha
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You actually have that backwards. I am the one who is continually standing up for the Palestinians and saying that OF COURSE they have the capacity to thrive and be prosperous in their own State next to a thriving and prosperous Israel. If only they would choose that.
On the other hand, you and others like you who mutter on about how terrible and evil the Jews are, continually present the Palestinians as helpless children who are utterly incapable of peaceful participation on the world stage alongside other States. You are the ones who restrict Palestinian choice to "resistance", as though there are no other possible choices they could make.
The Palestinians (let's not forget the "civilians" who participated and continue to participate in the on-going atrocities against Israelis and the Jewish people) can keep choosing violence (let's not call October 7's massacre "resistance" - it is not), but it will never get them anywhere but where they are. It is a perpetual losing formula for Palestinians. It gets them absolutely no where towards their end game, whether that end game is the complete annihilation of Israel or peaceful co-existence as another State in the region.
You're not fooling anyone by blaming Palestine's native residents for making the "wrong choices" when they have been given only resistance as a means of survival against a country that blatantly choses land theft over peace.(1)
What incentive does Israel have to make peace when it is grossly rewarded for committing genocide? (2)
(1). "Israel Does Not Want Peace"
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-does-not-want-peace-1.5253291
EXCERPT "Rejectionism is embedded in Israel's most primal beliefs. There, at the deepest level, lies the concept that this land is destined for the Jews alone.
Israel does not want peace. There is nothing I have ever written that I would be happier to be proved wrong about. But the evidence is piling up. In fact, it can be said that Israel has never wanted peace – a just peace, that is, one based on a just compromise for both sides.
The single most overwhelming item of evidence of Israel’s rejection of peace is, of course, the settlements project. From the dawn of its existence, there has never been a more reliable or more precise litmus test for Israel’s true intentions than this particular enterprise. In plain words: The builders of settlements want to consolidate the occupation, and those who want to consolidate the occupation do not want peace. That’s the whole story in a nutshell." CONTINUED
(2). "The Costs to American Taxpayers of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: $3 Trillion"
https://www.wrmea.org/003-june/the-...israeli-palestinian-conflict-$3-trillion.html
By Thomas R. Stauffer
EXCERPT "Similarly, aid to Israel—and thus the regional total—also is understated, since much is outside of the foreign aid appropriation process or implicit in other programs. Support for Israel comes to $1.8 trillion, including special trade advantages, preferential contracts, or aid buried in other accounts. In addition to the financial outlay, U.S. aid to Israel costs some 275,000 American jobs each year."CONTINUED
Toddsterpatriot
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You're not fooling anyone by blaming Palestine's native residents for making the "wrong choices" when they have been given only resistance as a means of survival against a country that blatantly choses land theft over peace.(1)
The Palestinians in Gaza weren't surviving before Oct 7th? Link?
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When Israel disengaged from Gaza, there were a whole lot of choices that might have been made. Choosing to torture, rape, and massacre Jews was no where near the only thing they could have done. Its disgusting to suggest that the only solution is commit a pogrom against Jews.
Israel has no interest at all in attempting to govern terrorists who kidnap babies. The question now is whether or not they are governable at all.
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And let's be clear. A peoples can WANT self-determination, but if they are incapable of thinking of anything they can possibly DO with that self-determination, except slaughter citizens of the neighboring country, they have no right to Statehood.
I never said that the Palestinians weren't surviving in Gaza before 7 October 2023.
Palestine's native residents were living in the Levant long before the invasion of the ancient Hebrew tribes and the invasion of Nazi trained and armed terrorist gangs.
Ethical Jews join the rest of the rational world in condemning what the Zionists learned as the true "lessons of the Holocaust":
They learned how to commit mass murder with not only impunity but with the support of "useful idiots"..
"A Textbook Case of Genocide"
A Textbook Case of Genocide
Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?
jewishcurrents.org
"Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?"
EXCERPT "Under international law, the crime of genocide is defined by “the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such,” as noted in the December 1948 UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. In its murderous attack on Gaza, Israel has loudly proclaimed this intent. Israeli Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant declared it in no uncertain terms on October 9th: “We are imposing a complete siege on Gaza. No electricity, no food, no water, no fuel. Everything is closed. We are fighting human animals, and we will act accordingly.”." CONTINUED
Yoav Gallant is no different than Ginrikh Yagota and other genocidal Jewish monsters and hopefully will meet the same grisly fate by being hung or shot along with Netanyahu and the rest of his murderous miscreants.
"Stalin's Jews"
"We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
EXCERPT "And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people.
In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges.
Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist."CONTINUED
Toddsterpatriot
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Palestine's native Jewish residents were living in the Levant long before the invasion of the barbaric muslims.
Toddsterpatriot
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Ethical Jews join the rest of the rational world in condemning what the Zionists learned as the true "lessons of the Holocaust":
They learned how to commit mass murder with not only impunity but with the support of "useful idiots"..
"A Textbook Case of Genocide"
A Textbook Case of Genocide
Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?
"Israel has been explicit about what it’s carrying out in Gaza. Why isn’t the world listening?"
EXCERPT "Under international law, the crime of genocide is defined by “the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such,” as noted in the December 1948 UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide. In its murderous attack on Gaza, Israel has loudly proclaimed this intent. Israeli Minister of Defense Yoav Gallant declared it in no uncertain terms on October 9th: “We are imposing a complete siege on Gaza. No electricity, no food, no water, no fuel. Everything is closed. We are fighting human animals, and we will act accordingly.”." CONTINUED
Yoav Gallant is no different than Ginrikh Yagota and other genocidal Jewish monsters and hopefully will meet the same grisly fate by being hung or shot along with Netanyahu and the rest of his murderous miscreants.
"Stalin's Jews"
"We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html
EXCERPT "And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people.
In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges.
Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist."CONTINUED
"Under international law, the crime of genocide is defined by “the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such,”
In part? So, if you kill two people, that can be genocide?
Israel denied attacking the USS Liberty.
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