The problems with Trump's "anger your allies" policy

[rightwinger]

Hey dope… Trump’s policies are PUSHING countries into the arms of China

China seems more reasonable than dealing with Trump

 

[kyzr]

China seems more reasonable than dealing with Trump

Commies of a feather...

 

[Lesh]

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2024-02-12/only-35-of-nato-countries-meet-the-groups-defense-spending-target

Only 35% of NATO members are meeting their commitments

You fucking dope. That’s from 2023. It notes that an additional 18 countries will reach (by now probably have reached) the 2% mark.

And do we really care if Luxembourg spends 2% of their GDP on the military?

Moron

 

[22lcidw]

Trump is also killing tourism
Who wants to come to a country that hates and demeans you

Progs have screwed up things with the inflation. You really have.

 

[22lcidw]

I notice you didn't prove anything.

Go on, prove they're "freeloaders". I bet you can't.

You know, Progs used to bring issues like this up. Now though you are the war party.

 

[AntonToo]

The only misadventure in AFG was Biden's moronic withdrawal. That disaster got Biden held in CONTEMPT by our allies.

Parliament holds Joe Biden in contempt over Afghanistan

MPs and peers unite to condemn ‘dishonour’ of US president’s withdrawal and his criticism of Afghan troops left behind to face Taliban

www.telegraph.co.uk

Bullshit peddler, whats this?

Not a single UK constituency would vote for Donald Trump: Poll

Three-quarters of British voters would back Joe Biden if they could vote in Tuesday’s US election.

www.politico.eu

 

[DonGlock26]

Denmark is a part of the EU. Do you know what the EU is?

The globalists' pit of vipers.

 

[frigidweirdo]

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2024-02-12/only-35-of-nato-countries-meet-the-groups-defense-spending-target

Only 35% of NATO members are meeting their commitments

Does the US meet its NATO commitments?

The US does spend a lot of money on the military, but the US spends a lot of that money on other things, things that aren't about NATO.

How much does the US actually put in towards NATO?

Japan and Korea... costs quite a bit, all the Pacific... none of that is NATO....

 

[frigidweirdo]

Trump should listen to his Commie wives if he hates foreigners so much

I'm quite sure his wives don't even know what Communism is, seeing as their husband/ex-husband doesn't either.

 

[DonGlock26]

Luckily for you I don't expect you to say anything serious, interesting, useful or anything else positive.

What is positive about the EU?

 

[Mac1958]

Hey dope… Trump’s policies are PUSHING countries into the arms of China

I guess they don't care. If a country is not mindless MAGA, it's commie.

With the one exception of Israel, of course.

But everyone else, yeah, commie.

 

[frigidweirdo]

What is positive about the EU?

Quite a lot.

The thing I like the MOST about the EU is that they told countries they have to set a tax rate and stick to it for all companies.

Unlike the US where the largest companies go around the country trying to get the lowest tax (or even negative tax) so that the people and small businesses end up paying far more than they should, and the rich pay almost nothing.

The EU actually looks after its people. It forces companies to act in a decent manner, unlike the US where it's a free for all.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Commies of a feather...

You do realize China isn't a Communist country, right?

They have "Communism with Chinese Characteristics" which is like saying that "rice is bread with Chinese characteristics", it just isn't.

 

[rightwinger]

I'm quite sure his wives don't even know what Communism is, seeing as their husband/ex-husband doesn't either.

Two out of three Trump wives were born Communist

 

[DonGlock26]

Quite a lot.

The thing I like the MOST about the EU is that they told countries they have to set a tax rate and stick to it for all companies.

Unlike the US where the largest companies go around the country trying to get the lowest tax (or even negative tax) so that the people and small businesses end up paying far more than they should, and the rich pay almost nothing.

The EU actually looks after its people. It forces companies to act in a decent manner, unlike the US where it's a free for all.

That's it? One tax rule is all that you can come up with?

 

[DonGlock26]

You do realize China isn't a Communist country, right?

They have "Communism with Chinese Characteristics" which is like saying that "rice is bread with Chinese characteristics", it just isn't.

They are totalitarian socialists just like the USSR was.

 

[Blaster]

So, Trump is actively angering certain countries, like Denmark (in the EU), Canada and Panama.

How will this impact the US in the future.

The main one, I'd support, especially from a Trumponian point of view, is MONEY.

Technical Difficulties

"In FY2024 the total value of transferred defense articles and services and security cooperation activities conducted under the Foreign Military Sales system was $117.9 billion. "

The US made $117 billion from selling military weapons to foreign countries.

"

• Türkiye – F-16 Aircraft Acquisition and Modernization ($23.0 billion)

• Israel – F-15IA and F-15I+ Aircraft ($18.8 billion)

• Romania – F-35 Aircraft ($7.2 billion)

• Germany – PATRIOT Advanced Capability-3 Missile Segment Enhancement Missiles ($5.0 billion)

• Japan – KC-46A Aerial Refueling Aircraft ($4.1 billion)

• India – MQ-9B Remotely Piloted Aircraft ($4.0 billion)

• Republic of Korea – AH-64E Apache Helicopters ($3.5 billion)

• Spain – PATRIOT Configuration-3+ Modernized Fire Units ($2.8 billion)

• Saudi Arabia – System Logistics and Sustainment Support ($2.8 billion)

• Romania – M1A2 Abrams Main Battle ($2.5 billion)

• Japan – Tomahawk Weapon System ($2.4 billion)

• Bahrain – M1A2 Abrams Main Battle Tanks ($2.2 billion)

• Australia – AUKUS-related Training and Training Devices ($2.0 billion)

• Greece – UH-60M Black Hawk Helicopters ($1.95 billion)

• Norway – AIM-120C-8 Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missiles ($1.94 billion)

• Poland – AGM-158B-2 Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile with Extended Range ($1.77 billion)

• Poland – AIM-120C-8 Advanced Medium-Range Air-to-Air Missiles ($1.69 billion) Poland – Advanced Anti-Radiation Guided Missiles – Extended Range ($1.275 billion)

• Poland – Airspace and Surface Radar Reconnaissance ($1.2 billion)

• Austria – UH-60M Blackhawk Helicopters ($1.05 billion)

• Saudia Arabia – Blanket Order Training ($1 billion) "
  
  Right there you have $17.9 billion going to EU countries, and these are examples for 2024

US weapons sales abroad hit record high in 2023, boosted by Ukraine war

Sales negotiated by the US government spiked 56%, as Russia's invasion of Ukraine stoked demand.

www.bbc.com

For 2023 you have:

"Poland bought Apache helicopters for $12bn, and also paid $10bn for High Mobility Artillery Rocket Systems (Himars) and $3.75bn for M1A1 Abrams tanks," "It also spent $4bn on Integrated Air and Missile Defence Battle Command Systems."

That is a lot of money, nearly $30 billion just to Poland. As the EU now mistrusts the US, it will almost certainly start producing more of its own weaponry, and the US will lose a lot of this money.

The fact is these countries depend on us to protect them.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Two out of three Trump wives were born Communist

You can't be born "Communist".

Two of them were born IN COUNTRIES THAT CLAIMED TO BE COMMUNIST.

That's a very, VERY different thing. I doubt they even know what Communism is.

 

[frigidweirdo]

They are totalitarian socialists just like the USSR was.

Yes, but Communism isn't defined as "totalitarian socialists", is it?

And was the USSR Communist? More so than China, China really isn't Communist in the slightest. Go look up Communism.

Communism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"Communism (from Latin communis, 'common, universal')[1][2] is a sociopolitical, philosophical, and economic ideology within the socialist movement,[1] whose goal is the creation of a communist society, a socioeconomic order centered on common ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange that allocates products to everyone in society based on need.[3][4][5] A communist society would entail the absence of private property and social classes,[1] and ultimately money[6] and the state (or nation state)."

1) Creation of a "Communist society". Does Xi want to create a "Communist society"? No, I don't think so. He wants a society where the CCP is at the head of the country and does whatever it wants. Most of the top leaders are supremely rich, because they care about MONEY, not people.

2) Common ownership of the means of production?

Yes, to an extent. Mostly they just want to control things. A lot of companies like Tencent, Alibaba etc, they're partially owned by the government, but run as private ventures, the banks are the same, many companies are like this. The govt profits, and the government interferes and tells people what to do, but with very much a hybrid version of it.

3) "exchange that allocates products to everyone in society based on need"?

Not at all.
Healthcare, you buy health insurance from the government, but it'll never cover your medical costs fully, if you get cancer and you're not rich, like in the US, you're dead. And other products, people earn money and they have to spend it. Housing is super expensive in bigger cities, go to Beijing, Shanghai etc and it'd take you 150 years without eating or spending money to afford a decent sized apartment.

4) Absence of social class... no, the CCP has created a new social class, like the USSR did. Absence of private property? Certainly you can't own land, beyond that, no, everything is privately owned.

5) Absence of the state... not on your life. The CCP has NO INTENTION of creating a stateless, governmentless society. It doesn't let its own people decide anything.

So, no, China is not Communist. European countries are more Communist, like the UK with the NHS.

However, being totalitarian does not equate to being Communist, as lots of Americans, like Trump and perhaps his wives, think.

 

[frigidweirdo]

The fact is these countries depend on us to protect them.

Not really. The US does not have military bases in Germany and the UK (does it have bases in the UK any more, I'm not sure) because it wants to protect these countries. It has bases there so it can project.

Imagine the Iraq war in 2003. Without Germany and Spain and the UK to provide bases in Europe, that would have been a much harder task.

US bases in Germany critical to assault on Iraq

Officially, the German government rejects the war of aggression against Iraq. However, the Social Democratic Party (SPD)-Green Party coalition in Berlin is providing substantial logistic and military support to the US and Britain. This support is in open contravention of the German constitution...

www.wsws.org

"US bases in Germany critical to assault on Iraq"

"Germany has become the most important military transport hub for the American war command. For weeks, many of the troops and much of the matériel being transported by the US military has moved through US military bases in Germany."

So, the US gained from this. Without Germany, without other countries closer, like Turkey (red lines under Turkey on the spell check, go figure, it wants Türkiye) , it might have got to the point where the US wouldn't have been able to invade.

This is the problem with Trump.

He's bullying because he knows the US has power. But he's also dismantling the whole system that allows the US to project....