The Problem for Republicans Isn’t Unity, It’s Reality

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Republicans like Cheney and McCarthy want to turn the clock back to 2016, proposing more of the usual Republican platitudes that offer nothing to actual Republican voters. Republican voters are not the bankers and Fortune 500 executives of a generation ago. Those corporate interests have long been absorbed into the permanent governing establishment, benefitting from relationships with government entities and often protected by favorable legislation and regulations. These corporate interests have realized that the government establishment is essentially the Democrat establishment, and they have slowly been absorbed into the Democrat party. Even the U.S. Chamber of Commerce supports many Democrats now, something unheard of only a few years ago.

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But Republican voters supported President Trump because of his policy goals and successes. They will no longer be taken in by vague promises of “increasing economic opportunity.” Having seen that policy victories and real change are possible, accompanied by unprecedented growth and prosperity, they will no longer settle for anything else. The veil has been pulled back on the Republican establishment. Collecting scraps from the Democrat establishment’s table is no longer enough. Reality has entered the room, and there is no going back to the way it used to be. Thank you for that, President Trump.

Cheney and McCarthy need to understand that American citizens -- almost entirely unarmed -- didn’t enter the Capitol on January 6 because they were incited by what President Trump said. They entered because they had finally had enough of the actions -- and inaction in the face of plausible voter fraud allegations -- of the governing class. They no longer respect the politicians working there, who pursue their own interests rather than the people’s interests. They no longer trust that the inhabitants of the Capitol -- Republicans included -- are working to improve their lives and preserve our republic. That explains the Animal House-like shenanigans engaged in by the protesters. And a large number of Republicans who watched those events share those feelings.

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The events of January 6 should have been a reality check for the Republican establishment. But judging by their actions on Cheney, it wasn’t. If only Cheney, Bush, McCarthy and the rest of the Republican establishment could get as outraged over President Biden’s destructive executive orders as they do about President Trump and his millions of supporters, they might actually fight for some real policy wins for Republican voters.

Read more: The Problem for Republicans Isn’t Unity, It’s Reality
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Those of us who supported President Trump, are now on our own. We obstensively have NO representation among the DC leadership, and as such will have to keep the pressure on those who are supposed to be there to represent us....Those who are Democrat lite, or straight up liars about their ideology need to be primaried, and voted out!

If we have the time to do such before the Socialist take over is complete....
 
I think conservatives need to stop focusing on Trump, the man is in his mid 70s and I don't believe he is electable even if he does run in 2024. We better be looking further ahead than that, and also looking for other, younger candidates. Fuck national unity, that ain't going to happen unless and until we have a national calamity that approaches the great depression of the 1930s or something like 9/11 or WWIII. Right now the GOP is only slightly more fiscally responsible than the dems are, and that's a really low bar considering the nonsense they want to do. Repubs are taking this country pretty much in the same direction that the democrats are, just not as fast. We need to get our shit together, cuz if we don't this country is gonna go to hell and take our kid and their kids with it.
 
Republicans like Cheney and McCarthy want to turn the clock back to 2016, proposing more of the usual Republican platitudes that offer nothing to actual Republican voters. Republican voters are not the bankers and Fortune 500 executives of a generation ago. Those corporate interests have long been absorbed into the permanent governing establishment, benefitting from relationships with government entities and often protected by favorable legislation and regulations. These corporate interests have realized that the government establishment is essentially the Democrat establishment, and they have slowly been absorbed into the Democrat party. Even the U.S. Chamber of Commerce supports many Democrats now, something unheard of only a few years ago.

snip


But Republican voters supported President Trump because of his policy goals and successes. They will no longer be taken in by vague promises of “increasing economic opportunity.” Having seen that policy victories and real change are possible, accompanied by unprecedented growth and prosperity, they will no longer settle for anything else. The veil has been pulled back on the Republican establishment. Collecting scraps from the Democrat establishment’s table is no longer enough. Reality has entered the room, and there is no going back to the way it used to be. Thank you for that, President Trump.

Cheney and McCarthy need to understand that American citizens -- almost entirely unarmed -- didn’t enter the Capitol on January 6 because they were incited by what President Trump said. They entered because they had finally had enough of the actions -- and inaction in the face of plausible voter fraud allegations -- of the governing class. They no longer respect the politicians working there, who pursue their own interests rather than the people’s interests. They no longer trust that the inhabitants of the Capitol -- Republicans included -- are working to improve their lives and preserve our republic. That explains the Animal House-like shenanigans engaged in by the protesters. And a large number of Republicans who watched those events share those feelings.

snip

The events of January 6 should have been a reality check for the Republican establishment. But judging by their actions on Cheney, it wasn’t. If only Cheney, Bush, McCarthy and the rest of the Republican establishment could get as outraged over President Biden’s destructive executive orders as they do about President Trump and his millions of supporters, they might actually fight for some real policy wins for Republican voters.

Read more: The Problem for Republicans Isn’t Unity, It’s Reality
Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook

Those of us who supported President Trump, are now on our own. We obstensively have NO representation among the DC leadership, and as such will have to keep the pressure on those who are supposed to be there to represent us....Those who are Democrat lite, or straight up liars about their ideology need to be primaried, and voted out!

If we have the time to do such before the Socialist take over is complete....
You had no representation when Trump was in office. You don’t really think he gave a Shiitt about his supporters do you ? He thought they were losers.
 
I think conservatives need to stop focusing on Trump, the man is in his mid 70s and I don't believe he is electable even if he does run in 2024. We better be looking further ahead than that, and also looking for other, younger candidates. Fuck national unity, that ain't going to happen unless and until we have a national calamity that approaches the great depression of the 1930s or something like 9/11 or WWIII. Right now the GOP is only slightly more fiscally responsible than the dems are, and that's a really low bar considering the nonsense they want to do. Repubs are taking this country pretty much in the same direction that the democrats are, just not as fast. We need to get our shit together, cuz if we don't this country is gonna go to hell and take our kid and their kids with it.

I agree 100%. Conservatives need to start separaoourselves from the moderates, centrist, and establishment scum in the party and seek out the truly Conservative core to build around.

The problem is that the core seems to get smaller and more rotten every Ike I look at it. Trump was/is not a Conservative. He was just the most Conservative of the group of 16 in 2016. We need to seek out true Lifestyle Conservatives and not accept anything less in our candidates.
 
Trump the man was a burden. Trump the president was a blessing. Hillary and Biden were worse choices for president than Trump, but only by a small degree. We have fours of this. Here is what we do:

1. Let the Democrats be socialists. Nothing will wake up the country faster than the lack of a good economy and government in their everyday life.

2. Work hard to win back the majority in Congress at midterms.

3. Look around at who you conduct business. Pick fellow conservatives when spending. Make it expensive to be a liberal.

4. Stock up food, water, fuel, and weapons. Be better prepared than the enemy. Don't get confused, they are the enemy.
 
Republicans like Cheney and McCarthy want to turn the clock back to 2016, proposing more of the usual Republican platitudes that offer nothing to actual Republican voters. Republican voters are not the bankers and Fortune 500 executives of a generation ago. Those corporate interests have long been absorbed into the permanent governing establishment, benefitting from relationships with government entities and often protected by favorable legislation and regulations. These corporate interests have realized that the government establishment is essentially the Democrat establishment, and they have slowly been absorbed into the Democrat party. Even the U.S. Chamber of Commerce supports many Democrats now, something unheard of only a few years ago.

snip


But Republican voters supported President Trump because of his policy goals and successes. They will no longer be taken in by vague promises of “increasing economic opportunity.” Having seen that policy victories and real change are possible, accompanied by unprecedented growth and prosperity, they will no longer settle for anything else. The veil has been pulled back on the Republican establishment. Collecting scraps from the Democrat establishment’s table is no longer enough. Reality has entered the room, and there is no going back to the way it used to be. Thank you for that, President Trump.

Cheney and McCarthy need to understand that American citizens -- almost entirely unarmed -- didn’t enter the Capitol on January 6 because they were incited by what President Trump said. They entered because they had finally had enough of the actions -- and inaction in the face of plausible voter fraud allegations -- of the governing class. They no longer respect the politicians working there, who pursue their own interests rather than the people’s interests. They no longer trust that the inhabitants of the Capitol -- Republicans included -- are working to improve their lives and preserve our republic. That explains the Animal House-like shenanigans engaged in by the protesters. And a large number of Republicans who watched those events share those feelings.

snip

The events of January 6 should have been a reality check for the Republican establishment. But judging by their actions on Cheney, it wasn’t. If only Cheney, Bush, McCarthy and the rest of the Republican establishment could get as outraged over President Biden’s destructive executive orders as they do about President Trump and his millions of supporters, they might actually fight for some real policy wins for Republican voters.

Read more: The Problem for Republicans Isn’t Unity, It’s Reality
Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook

Those of us who supported President Trump, are now on our own. We obstensively have NO representation among the DC leadership, and as such will have to keep the pressure on those who are supposed to be there to represent us....Those who are Democrat lite, or straight up liars about their ideology need to be primaried, and voted out!

If we have the time to do such before the Socialist take over is complete....
You had no representation when Trump was in office. You don’t really think he gave a Shiitt about his supporters do you ? He thought they were losers.
List at least 5 pieces of Legislation or EOs under Trump that adversely affected your life.
Respond without an Ad hominem.
 
I think conservatives need to stop focusing on Trump, the man is in his mid 70s and I don't believe he is electable even if he does run in 2024. We better be looking further ahead than that, and also looking for other, younger candidates. Fuck national unity, that ain't going to happen unless and until we have a national calamity that approaches the great depression of the 1930s or something like 9/11 or WWIII. Right now the GOP is only slightly more fiscally responsible than the dems are, and that's a really low bar considering the nonsense they want to do. Repubs are taking this country pretty much in the same direction that the democrats are, just not as fast. We need to get our shit together, cuz if we don't this country is gonna go to hell and take our kid and their kids with it.

I agree 100%. Conservatives need to start separaoourselves from the moderates, centrist, and establishment scum in the party and seek out the truly Conservative core to build around.

The problem is that the core seems to get smaller and more rotten every Ike I look at it. Trump was/is not a Conservative. He was just the most Conservative of the group of 16 in 2016. We need to seek out true Lifestyle Conservatives and not accept anything less in our candidates.
We really don’t know what the core stands for. They have no platform. Unless it’s to just troll liberals, no one can figure it out, not even repos themselves. Well, science denial and making recessions seems obvious.
 
Republicans like Cheney and McCarthy want to turn the clock back to 2016, proposing more of the usual Republican platitudes that offer nothing to actual Republican voters. Republican voters are not the bankers and Fortune 500 executives of a generation ago. Those corporate interests have long been absorbed into the permanent governing establishment, benefitting from relationships with government entities and often protected by favorable legislation and regulations. These corporate interests have realized that the government establishment is essentially the Democrat establishment, and they have slowly been absorbed into the Democrat party. Even the U.S. Chamber of Commerce supports many Democrats now, something unheard of only a few years ago.

snip


But Republican voters supported President Trump because of his policy goals and successes. They will no longer be taken in by vague promises of “increasing economic opportunity.” Having seen that policy victories and real change are possible, accompanied by unprecedented growth and prosperity, they will no longer settle for anything else. The veil has been pulled back on the Republican establishment. Collecting scraps from the Democrat establishment’s table is no longer enough. Reality has entered the room, and there is no going back to the way it used to be. Thank you for that, President Trump.

Cheney and McCarthy need to understand that American citizens -- almost entirely unarmed -- didn’t enter the Capitol on January 6 because they were incited by what President Trump said. They entered because they had finally had enough of the actions -- and inaction in the face of plausible voter fraud allegations -- of the governing class. They no longer respect the politicians working there, who pursue their own interests rather than the people’s interests. They no longer trust that the inhabitants of the Capitol -- Republicans included -- are working to improve their lives and preserve our republic. That explains the Animal House-like shenanigans engaged in by the protesters. And a large number of Republicans who watched those events share those feelings.

snip

The events of January 6 should have been a reality check for the Republican establishment. But judging by their actions on Cheney, it wasn’t. If only Cheney, Bush, McCarthy and the rest of the Republican establishment could get as outraged over President Biden’s destructive executive orders as they do about President Trump and his millions of supporters, they might actually fight for some real policy wins for Republican voters.

Read more: The Problem for Republicans Isn’t Unity, It’s Reality
Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook

Those of us who supported President Trump, are now on our own. We obstensively have NO representation among the DC leadership, and as such will have to keep the pressure on those who are supposed to be there to represent us....Those who are Democrat lite, or straight up liars about their ideology need to be primaried, and voted out!

If we have the time to do such before the Socialist take over is complete....
You should just form your own party and run your own candidates.
 
We really don’t know what the core stands for. They have no platform. Unless it’s to just troll liberals, no one can figure it out, not even repos themselves. Well, science denial and making recessions seems obvious.

There are two separate cores in the Republican Party...

The Conservative Core stands for Individual Responsibility, a Focused (not small) Central Government, Strong State/Local Control, Traditional Western Values, Nationalism, and Isolationism.

There is also a Centrist Core that is part of the Mainstream, Establishment, and Centrist/Leftist-Socialist society thst the Democrat Party generally taps into.

That Centrist Core needs to be thrown out of the party.
 
I remember the old Will Rogers line "I am not a member of any organized political party. I'm a Democrat".

My, oh my, have times ever changed!

As the democrat party has become more and more authoritarian and cancel culture is their tool for ensuring slavish conformity, it has become the party of the unthinking and unquestioning. It is all about IDENTITY and a tribalistic approach to politics that emphasizes party loyalty over anything approaching principles. Just look at this forum -- the lock-step leftists speak with one voice, only know what they are supposed to say rather than understanding why they should say it, are incapable of understanding principles, view questioning as heresy and are true believers in every possible way.

Meanwhile, the Republican party has become less dogmatic over time, certainly less demagogic, and the schisms that are appearing are due to the fact that people disagree. It isn't about identity, but policy, and people disagree about policy. Trump was certainly a singular figure because of his galvanizing personality, but his America first position against growing globalism is sound but just needs to be articulated in a better way. People need to be made to understand that the real issue is their ability to control their own life, how the globalists in conjunction with the democrat party are eroding that ability, reducing our ability to have our own opinion on things and exercising ever increasing control over us in every way.
 
Republicans like Cheney and McCarthy want to turn the clock back to 2016, proposing more of the usual Republican platitudes that offer nothing to actual Republican voters. Republican voters are not the bankers and Fortune 500 executives of a generation ago. Those corporate interests have long been absorbed into the permanent governing establishment, benefitting from relationships with government entities and often protected by favorable legislation and regulations. These corporate interests have realized that the government establishment is essentially the Democrat establishment, and they have slowly been absorbed into the Democrat party. Even the U.S. Chamber of Commerce supports many Democrats now, something unheard of only a few years ago.

snip


But Republican voters supported President Trump because of his policy goals and successes. They will no longer be taken in by vague promises of “increasing economic opportunity.” Having seen that policy victories and real change are possible, accompanied by unprecedented growth and prosperity, they will no longer settle for anything else. The veil has been pulled back on the Republican establishment. Collecting scraps from the Democrat establishment’s table is no longer enough. Reality has entered the room, and there is no going back to the way it used to be. Thank you for that, President Trump.

Cheney and McCarthy need to understand that American citizens -- almost entirely unarmed -- didn’t enter the Capitol on January 6 because they were incited by what President Trump said. They entered because they had finally had enough of the actions -- and inaction in the face of plausible voter fraud allegations -- of the governing class. They no longer respect the politicians working there, who pursue their own interests rather than the people’s interests. They no longer trust that the inhabitants of the Capitol -- Republicans included -- are working to improve their lives and preserve our republic. That explains the Animal House-like shenanigans engaged in by the protesters. And a large number of Republicans who watched those events share those feelings.

snip

The events of January 6 should have been a reality check for the Republican establishment. But judging by their actions on Cheney, it wasn’t. If only Cheney, Bush, McCarthy and the rest of the Republican establishment could get as outraged over President Biden’s destructive executive orders as they do about President Trump and his millions of supporters, they might actually fight for some real policy wins for Republican voters.

Read more: The Problem for Republicans Isn’t Unity, It’s Reality
Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook

Those of us who supported President Trump, are now on our own. We obstensively have NO representation among the DC leadership, and as such will have to keep the pressure on those who are supposed to be there to represent us....Those who are Democrat lite, or straight up liars about their ideology need to be primaried, and voted out!

If we have the time to do such before the Socialist take over is complete....

Patriotic, God fearing, family and life loving Americans have been on our own, without real leadership, for decades. Every person we've voted for, every charity we've donated to, and every new "hero" we've supported, both in the Church and the government, have sold us and their own souls out for GOLD. We're on our own, for now, but perhaps that's not such a bad place to be.
 

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