The portion of the repub party that is pro-Putin is alarming

[Fort Fun Indiana]

trying to give you some options for a Ukraine victory, how would a Ukraine win look to you?

Well, there are several points to win or lose. Not just one. Don't be so shallow and narrow.

First, denying Putin his goals. Putin wants Ukraine to be part of Russia, and not just in the sense of lines he draws on a map.

I think putin is doomed to lose on that one. That ship sailedlong ago.

 

[Chillicothe]

"when ukraine attacks Moscow, I'll agree that they might win this."

You'll "agree"?
With whom?

Can you share with the forum which contributor here suggested Ukraine was going to attack Moscow?
I'd love to read the post or the thread you seemingly are referencing.

Batter up, mein freund.

 

[Nostra]

No one listens to dumb Don.

Then why do you Dimtards start a dozen Trump pissy pants threads every day?

 

[Nostra]

The GOP dropped arming Ukraine from their platform in 2016.
They no longer had Georgia on their mind.

Trump sent Ukraine a shit ton of arms, Moron.

 

[Nostra]

There are photos of Trump doing it.

Trump revealed intelligence secrets to Russians in Oval Office: officials

President Donald Trump disclosed highly classified information to Russia's foreign minister about a planned Islamic State operation, two U.S. officials said on Monday, plunging the White House into another controversy just months into Trump's short tenure in office.

www.reuters.com

Trump revealed intelligence secrets to Russians in Oval Office: officials

President Donald Trump disclosed highly classified information to Russia’s foreign minister about a planned Islamic State operation, two U.S. officials said on Monday, plunging the White House into another controversy just months into Trump’s short tenure in office.

The intelligence, shared at a meeting last week with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russian Ambassador Sergei Kislyak, was supplied by a U.S. ally in the fight against the militant group, both officials with knowledge of the situation said.

One of the officials said the intelligence discussed by Trump in his meeting with Lavrov was classified “Top Secret” and held in a secure “compartment” to which only a handful of intelligence officials have access.

After Trump’s disclosure of the information, which one of the officials described as spontaneous, officials immediately called the CIA and the National Security Agency, both of which have agreements with a number of allied intelligence services around the world, and informed them what had happened.

Photos? Where? Didn’t see any in your link.

 

[Nostra]

Trump
Madison Cawthorn
Tucker Carlson
Laura Ingraham

Ok, let’s assume your claims are true….YUUUUUUUUGE assumption….especially since you have failed to bring such praise from any of them.

You have a private citizen, two TV talkings heads, and a no name freshman congressman.

So explain how this constitutes the GOP, troll.

Remember when your Messiah Barry Hussein told Putin he could be even more flexible after the 2012 election? And by “flexible” Bathhouse Barry was offering to bend over and grab his ankles for four years, which he did,

 

[Chillicothe]

Nobody on the right praised Putin.

Oh boy, poster 'Whitehall', I love this bar. It just keeps getting gooder and gooder.
Somedays, with some topics.....it's like a Gooberpalooza.
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Stating a fact like Putin is smart, is not "loudly praising Putin". That is stating a fact. Putin is also a Sociopath and a war criminal.

Which, MarathonMike, makes one wonder why the fired ex-president didn't mention that 'Sociopath/War Criminal'-thingy when he was calling Putin a genius and that the invasion of Ukraine was "wonderful".
Seemed, to me, like an opportune moment to do a little dissing.
But DTrump whiffed that opportunity.
All here who were surprised by that whiff.....please raise your hand.
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Hey....their policies have wrecked the economy

Ah, good poster "2aguy"......that's a sentiment that makes the whole forum feel badly that the little world of your personal America is wrecked. That is a shame. And we wish you and your family better luck.

But, it is true that in the rest of America....the economy is doing just fine. Job growth is strong. There is clear and obvious need for more workers.....as "Hiring" signs are everywhere. Many many companies are reporting strong sales growth and increasing profits. Back orders and wait-times indicate that there is a vibrant demand for the goods our American manufacturers produce....that augurs well for future growth. Restaurant reservations are a challenge, once again. Housing starts are at a 40 year high. Real estate values are strong and increasing. Mortgages and lending are readily available.

So, again.....we feel bad that the American life you have constructed for yourself and your family is so disappointing. While the rest of us are doing just fine.

Good luck.

ps.....maybe, and I don't meant to step out of bounds.....but maybe one could spend a little less time playing on social media and actually go out and get a good or better job?
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None of us on the right do, or ever have, supported Putin

I love this bar.
It's a gooberpalooza!
Fantagasms abound.
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I know this sounds foreign....... but it is possible to admire some traits of an individual while simultaneously disapproving of their actions.

Oh that is true, good poster Orange; however, an aware and responsible leader....and DTrump is leader of the Republican party... would recognize the need to temper, to 'average out' his praises of an adversary to his nation...... by ALSO....including a few negatives about that adversary.

That's easily found in most any Leadership 101 textbook.
It's in the chapter: On-the-Other-Hand: How To Dis An Opponent While Fanboying Him."
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Obama. He never left Washington. He's pulling the strings in the WH as we speak.

I love this bar.
It can be, often enough, an entertaining visit to Cloud Cuckoo Land.
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When Putin started the invasion, rather than condemn the military incursion into a peaceful neighbor like the rest of the world, Trump praised how smart Putin was for doing it and called him a genius

You know, poster 'rightwinger', I noticed that too.
I honestly think a whole bunch of non-MAGAHats also noticed.
In fact, I suggest how to mitigate that problem in the textbook I reference above.....about how good leaders know how to thread the needle on diplomacy and criticism by just being not brain-dead.

See the...."On-The-Other-Hand" tactic.
As we all have observed, some not-very-good-leaders just miss its usefulness in leadership.

IMHO

 

[excalibur]

Irony From a Dimsocialist.

A leftoid.

 

[excalibur]

Ok, let’s assume your claims are true….YUUUUUUUUGE assumption….especially since you have failed to bring such praise from any of them.

You have a private citizen, two TV talkings heads, and a no name freshman congressman.

So explain how this constitutes the GOP, troll.

Remember when your Messiah Barry Hussein told Putin he could be even more flexible after the 2012 election? And by “flexible” Bathhouse Barry was offering to bend over and grab his ankles for four years, which he did,

Øbama refused lethal aid to Ukraine, even though Congress approved it.

Hmmm? Isn't that an impeachable offense?

Oh, right, when Øbama and then Biden refused to send Congressionally authorized lethal laid it wasn't impeachable, but when Trump held it up for a short time it was impeachable.

Yeah, Pelosi and the Dims wrecked the House and the true meaning of impeachment.

 

[excalibur]

Not Koch industries they are planning on staying in Russia just like they did during the USSR under Stalin.

Well, Stalin was our ally for a while. We shipped him massive amounts of war material, food, other supplies.

 

[gipper]

Then why do you Dimtards start a dozen Trump pissy pants threads every day?

Good point. They have TDS so bad it doesn't lessen even after over a year since Don was potus.

 

[excalibur]

The GOP dropped arming Ukraine from their platform in 2016.
They no longer had Georgia on their mind.

Biden was withholding lethal aid to Ukraine in June 2021, December 2021, as recently as February 2022 was playing games over lethal aid.

White House freezes Ukraine military package that includes lethal weapons

Officials prepped $100 million worth of arms as Russia massed troops on the border, then put it on pause as the Biden-Putin summit approached.

www.politico.com

Biden admin holds back extra military aid to Kyiv amid diplomatic push

A source familiar with the matter, however, said there are other options for further aid to Ukraine, including a much larger package in the event of further incursion by Russia.

www.nbcnews.com

White House Delays Moving Military Assistance to Ukraine

And Congress is getting impatient.

foreignpolicy.com

Biden admin carefully examining legal issues around providing arms to Ukraine

A Republican congressional aide said there was bipartisan frustration with the pace of aid, but Biden admin officials said legal review was not slowing things down.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Øbama refused lethal aid to Ukraine, even though Congress approved it.

Hmmm? Isn't that an impeachable offense?

No. The President does not have to sign everything g that comes to his desk.

What Obama did do was authorize private sales of lethal weapons to Ukraine. Lots of them.

 

[excalibur]

Good point. They have TDS so bad it doesn't lessen even after over a year since Don was potus.

Mass formation psychosis.

 

[Chillicothe]

hey have TDS so bad it doesn't lessen even after over a year since Don was potus.

Mass formation psychosis.

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Ah, those are sad misreads of the dynamic.

The good posters, gipper & excalibur, fail to see the slyboots snarky good humor that DTrump generates.

Fanboys of DTrump think his critics hate him, fear him, despise him.
My avatar says ..... noper. Your tea-leaves mislead you.

Think of the dynamic this way: DTrump is the loudmouth insulting clown on the tiny seat just above the dunk-tank.

Everybody!........wants to see the clown go 'Splash'!

In there non-partisan true-hearts......fanboys Gipper & Exacalibur......know that.

I am mildly sure of that.

But, I am also mildly sure, that when all those BigMacs and the extra 60lbs do the final dunking......well, we are gonna miss the deserving guy perched above the dunk-tank.

Betcha.

 

[gipper]

Cute whining.

But I saw one party pushing for federal day care, and one party pushing against. It would be law right now, if not for one Senator in the wrong party.

So you can enjoy your lazy place in the "I say everything sucks, then I can never be wrong and don't have to know things" camp.

I will continue ue to acknowledge the differences.

Now we understand each other.

I just proved you completely wrong and this is your response. C’om man.

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Ah, those are sad misreads of the dynamic.

The good posters, gipper & excalibur, fail to see the slyboots snarky good humor that DTrump generates.

Fanboys of DTrump think his critics hate him, fear him, despise him.
My avatar says ..... noper. Your tea-leaves mislead you.

Think of the dynamic this way: DTrump is the loudmouth insulting clown on the tiny seat just above the dunk-tank.

Everybody!........wants to see the clown go 'Splash'!

In there non-partisan true-hearts......fanboys Gipper & Exacalibur......know that.

I am mildly sure of that.

But, I am also mildly sure, that when all those BigMacs and the extra 60lbs do the final dunking......well, we are gonna miss the deserving guy perched above the dunk-tank.

Betcha.

you’ve got me confused with someone else due to your having a bad case of TDS.

 

[SmokeALib]

There are 3 points in this "speech" where she points out that Ukraine "cannot win".

I think that crosses a line.Firstly I doubt her qualifications to make comment on that. It sounds very Lord Haw Haw to me.
There is a legitimate position to saying that other countries should not get involved in Russias illegal war. But this just seems to be Russian propaganda.

Putin is an enemy to the US and all freedom loving democratic countries. What does this wretched woman gain by supporting him ?
That is a question that needs an answer.

You're a fukkin idiot.

 

[Flopper]

Your numbers are incorrect. Our 8 subs carry 24 missiles and there are capable of firing the Trident D-missile with a range of over 7000 nm.

sorry, my memory fails me time

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I just proved you completely wrong and this is your response.

No, freak, you didn't.

If declarations of victory were actual victories, you morons would all be 12 star generals.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Whatever mind-destroying drugs Chillicothe uses, he seems to be hitting them unusually hard, and in especially destructive combinations, this afternoon.