The portion of the repub party that is pro-Putin is alarming

[Markle]

Those on the right who loudly praised Putin have now fallen strangely silent | Nick Cohen

Most collaborators in the west are at least coming up with excuses after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. That’s not the case in Britain

www.theguardian.com

A thoughtful piece on the predicament facing the right in the face of Putins illegal war.
Ive added a ? to the heading as not all have fallen silent.
But as the atrocities mount up it will becme harder and harder to defend this behaviour. Putin has been a poster boy for the right for years but even his mini mes in Hungary and Poland have drawn the line.

And so the challenge for the right is this.
Is it possible to be a hard right populist and be a decent person ? The evideence is pretty damning.

 

[mudwhistle]

Oh hell no. As bad as slow Joe is, Don wouldn’t be any improvement. He’d probably get us a nuke contest with Russia. He’d tell Putin my dick is bigger than yours.

The only reason you feel that way about Trump is because not only was most of Washington D.C. out to get him.....but the media gave him 98% negative coverage. He couldn't take a shit without someone spying on him and telling everyone that he didn't wipe his ass properly.

Trump was the only thing standing in the way of Putin taking back Ukraine 4 years ago.....and now that he's out of the way....the result was predictable. If Hillary had won....we never would have had one mention of COVID-19.

 

[schmidlap]

July 2018, "After face-to-face talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin, Mr Trump contradicted US intelligence agencies and said there had been no reason for Russia to meddle in the vote. Mr Putin reiterated that Russia had never interfered in US affairs."

Trump sides with Russia against FBI at Helsinki summit - BBC​

Here it comes. It is about time.

The Post reports, "The House Jan. 6 committee has tried to recruit high-profile journalists to write its report about the attack on the Capitol, hoping to build a narrative thriller that compels audiences and is a departure from government reports of yore.

"Committee members and staffers are seeking to compile dramatic videos, texts and emails in a digital format that is easy to understand — and easy to share on social media. And they want to put together blockbuster televised hearings that the public actually tunes into.

"Their challenge: Making the public care deeply — and read hundreds of pages more — about an event that happened more than a year ago.

"They’ll attempt to do so this spring through public hearings, along with a potential interim report and a final report that will be published ahead of the November midterms — with the findings likely a key part of the Democrats midterm strategy. They hope their recommendations to prevent another insurrection will be adopted, but also that their work will repel voters from Republicans who they say encouraged the attack."

147 Republicans voted against certifying the results of the 2020 Presidential election results.

The 147 Republicans Who Voted to Overturn Election Results​

"If these radical, vicious, racist prosecutors do anything wrong or illegal, I hope we are going to have in this country the biggest protests we have ever had in Washington, D.C., in New York, in Atlanta and elsewhere because our country and our elections are corrupt," Donald Trump, Jan. 31, 2022.

It is expected that this is only the beginning. The DOJ is likely to initiate several investigations, and grand juries will be summoned. All this just in time for the November mid-terms.

Republicans are expected to gain control of Congress???

Ukraine and the "savvy genius" may well be the issue that separates conservative Republicans from the RINOs of Trumpery.

Trump-aligned 'America First' holdouts don't follow GOP in backing Ukraine​

They are a distinct minority in their own party and, for that matter, their country: holdouts amid an ever-widening consensus that Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine poses a mortal threat to American interests. ​

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A wing of the Republican Party tightly bound to former President Donald Trump is fighting to push the GOP toward the “America First” isolationism that underpinned his 2016 presidential bid.​

For the first time since Trump’s rise, his party is pushing back. ​

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That much was clear from the House vote Thursday on a bill ending normal trade relations with Russia as punishment for attacking Ukraine. A total of 202 Republicans joined with 222 Democrats in voting to allow the Biden administration to raise tariffs on Russia, a rare bipartisan consensus in an era of fierce polarization. ​

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Among the eight Republicans who voted against the measure were Trump loyalists, including Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia. In a speech on the House floor Thursday, Greene gave a succinct summary of an America First argument that has been getting little traction in the face of deepening sympathy for the Ukrainians’ suffering...​

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Surveys show that majorities of Americans are prepared to accept financial sacrifices if it means helping Ukraine defend its sovereignty. And polls suggest that Americans are absorbed in coverage of the war and inspired by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s resistance to the Russian siege. That puts them at odds with another America Firster who’s gotten Trump’s endorsement, Rep. Madison Cawthorn of North Carolina. The 26-year-old congressman called Zelenskyy a “thug.”...​

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Ihe overwhelming majority of Republicans approve of sending weapons to Ukraine. In the meantime, a Quinnipiac poll released this month showed that more than two out of three Republicans support a ban on Russian oil imports even if that means higher gas prices at home. As for Russian President Vladimir Putin, GOP voters viewed him with contempt...​

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Steve Bannon, a former senior adviser in the Trump White House, said on his podcast earlier this month that “no Republican should vote for any money for Ukraine … until we get a full briefing and disclosure of exactly what is going on with facts.” In a text message, Bannon said that “of course” he sees public opinion on the right shifting to his stance on Ukraine, adding, “it’s changed already.” Asked for examples of such a shift, he did not respond...​

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Last month, Greene and Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona spoke at the America First Political Action Conference (Gosar addressed the gathering of white nationalists in a prerecorded video). The organizer, Nicholas Fuentes, a white nationalist activist who, before introducing Greene, urged support for Putin in the war with Ukraine. The crowd then chanted ​

“Putin! Putin!”
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Trump-aligned 'America First' holdouts don't follow GOP in backing Ukraine

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[gipper]

The only reason you feel that way about Trump is because not only was most of Washington D.C. out to get him.....but the media gave him 98% negative coverage. He couldn't take a shit without someone spying on him and telling everyone that he didn't wipe his ass properly.

Trump was the only thing standing in the way of Putin taking back Ukraine 4 years ago.....and now that he's out of the way....the result was predictable. If Hillary had won....we never would have had one mention of COVID-19.

Dumb Don was too dumb to know they were all out to get him, so he fell into their trap. But you love him unconditionally anyway.

I don’t care about Ukraine. It’s none of our stinking government’s business whether dumb Don or slow Joe are potus

 

[Markle]

No one listens to dumb Don.

And we see how that worked out!

 

[gipper]

And we see how that worked out!

Not well, but it wouldn’t be any different if Don were re-elected.

 

[Rigby5]

That would be hysterically funny ignorance right there if it was not a disgusting use of Russian force. Go check your facts. CLEARLY Russia bombed the FUCK out of Syria. When you see those pix of Aleppo, that's what Putin intends for the large Ukrainian cities he cant clear from the ground.

OK -- I'll fix your misconception.. You on the left "meme team" would take YEARS to fix. Start here.

Why is Russia bombing Aleppo and who is winning?

RUSSIA’S ambassador to Turkey has been shot dead by an off-duty cop in protest at President Vladimir Putin’s brutal military campaign in neighbouring Syria. The country stepped up bombing cam…

www.thesun.co.uk

Why is Russia bombing Aleppo?
Russia announced in September 2015 that would intervene militarily in Syria.

At that time Syrian President Bashar al-Assad's troops were retreating weakened by a fierce civil war being fought on many fronts.

With the backing of his government Vladimir Putin moved to prevent his ally from being significantly weakened or even outed.

He immediately launched air strikes over the country.

Putin has repeatedly said he entered the battle to fight Islamic State, however it is widely accepted that Russia's reasons for intervention were more complex.

Many bombs have fallen on opposition rebel troops strengthening Assad's position, which in turn protects Russia's assets in the area.

The bombing campaign can also be seen as a display of military strength by a posturing Russia wishing to show itself as a key world power to rival the US.

Russia's role in the bombing of Aleppo, which has seen nurseries, hospitals and civilian areas flattened, has been widely condemned by the international community.

Russia says Syria raids from Iranian base do not violate UN resolution

Russia on Wednesday dismissed a suggestion from Washington that Moscow is violating a UN Security Council resolution by using an Iranian air base for its bom...

www.dailymail.co.uk

Russia says Syria raids from Iranian base do not violate UN resolution
By AFP

PUBLISHED: 17:29 EDT, 17 August 2016 | UPDATED: 17:29 EDT, 17 August 2016

Russia on Wednesday dismissed a suggestion from Washington that Moscow is violating a UN Security Council resolution by using an Iranian air base for its bombing raids on Syria.

"There are no grounds to suspect Russia of breaching the resolution," Lavrov said at a news conference in Moscow.
Russia on Tuesday began flying warplanes from an Iranian airbase in a major switch in its bombing campaign in Syria that the United States condemned as "unfortunate".

All that in ADDITION to flying daily sorties WITHIN Syria..

First of all, Assad not only is extremely popular in Syria, but is the ONLY possible choice.
The rebels are so infiltrated with SISI and al Qaeda, that they are much worse than Assad.
Second is that Iran claims the Russians just refueled, in Iran, and it was allowed for a few days.
Third is that Assad was bombing Aleppo with massive oil drum bombs pushed out of cargo planes, so was much worse than Russian precision attacks.

But the rebels would never have been able to hold out at all, much less win, if not for illegal US weapons that Ambassador Stevens was giving to the Syrian rebels through a warehouse in Benghazi.

 

[Rigby5]

Read a Clancey novel, or a physics book. A ballistic sub near the Russian coast is no better than a land based ballistic missile. Taking 8-10 minutes minimum launch to impact into the US with the same early warning path as land based launches. Meanwhile a US boomer in the atlantic or pacific could put first strike warheads on Moscow before a Russian missile could strike Washington DC. Different from a russian boomer off the coast, we would also have time to get the bombers in the air for a second strike, with the land based missiles targeted either counter force or strategic decapitation depending on first strike deployment.

With only one boomer parked off the coast, they couldn't hope to sucker punch a knock-out.

Doesn't matter how long the retaliation takes.
The point is that as long as the sub is not tied up on a dock, then it can't be reliably taken out on the first strike,
You do not need subs to be near their target, just not easily targeted.

 

[mudwhistle]

Dumb Don was too dumb to know they were all out to get him, so he fell into their trap. But you love him unconditionally anyway.

I don’t care about Ukraine. It’s none of our stinking government’s business whether dumb Don or slow Joe are potus

And you wonder why most of this forum thinks you're an idiot.
Clearly reality isn't a place you like to dwell in.

 

[Rigby5]

The Ukrainians were still the ones who ran Hitler's death camps, they stole oil from Russian pipelines, and violated treaties by trying to join NATO.

 

[gipper]

And you wonder why most of this forum thinks you're an idiot.
Clearly reality isn't a place you like to dwell in.

Oh well. No response. I get it. You love Trump so no need to think. It’s all emotional.

 

[Markle]

No, paid liars wrote blogs full of lies targeted at you, to get you to vote against your own interests.

Seriously?

 

[Markle]

The Ukrainians were still the ones who ran Hitler's death camps, they stole oil from Russian pipelines, and violated treaties by trying to join NATO.

So, the atrocities and war crimes being committed by President Putin are actually the faults of Ukraine. Got it!

As did the citizens of the other nations crushed by Adolph Hitler. Either that or you were slain.

 

[BWK]

You obviously are incapable of addressing the thread with your brain dead meme.

 

[BWK]

Seriously?

Seriously!

 

[mamooth]

As far as Brandon

Biden apparently beat you so badly, you're still too scared to even say his name.

Do what we liberals do. Just say it. Say "Fuck Joe Biden". We say it all the time. Don't worry, the big bad Biden won't hurt you if you say it.

Best thing for UKRAINE AND THE USA is if he convinced his son Hunter to pay BACK the Ukrainians for all that Biden crime syndicate loot by calling this Ukrainian attaché and BEGGING to serve.

Nobody's making you push idiot alt-RightRussian propaganda. You're doing it of your own free will. Why?

 

[BWK]

Ukraine and the "savvy genius" may well be the issue that separates conservative Republicans from the RINOs of Trumpery.

Trump-aligned 'America First' holdouts don't follow GOP in backing Ukraine​

They are a distinct minority in their own party and, for that matter, their country: holdouts amid an ever-widening consensus that Russia’s unprovoked invasion of Ukraine poses a mortal threat to American interests. ​

​

A wing of the Republican Party tightly bound to former President Donald Trump is fighting to push the GOP toward the “America First” isolationism that underpinned his 2016 presidential bid.​

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For the first time since Trump’s rise, his party is pushing back. ​

​

That much was clear from the House vote Thursday on a bill ending normal trade relations with Russia as punishment for attacking Ukraine. A total of 202 Republicans joined with 222 Democrats in voting to allow the Biden administration to raise tariffs on Russia, a rare bipartisan consensus in an era of fierce polarization. ​

​

Among the eight Republicans who voted against the measure were Trump loyalists, including Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia. In a speech on the House floor Thursday, Greene gave a succinct summary of an America First argument that has been getting little traction in the face of deepening sympathy for the Ukrainians’ suffering...​

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Surveys show that majorities of Americans are prepared to accept financial sacrifices if it means helping Ukraine defend its sovereignty. And polls suggest that Americans are absorbed in coverage of the war and inspired by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s resistance to the Russian siege. That puts them at odds with another America Firster who’s gotten Trump’s endorsement, Rep. Madison Cawthorn of North Carolina. The 26-year-old congressman called Zelenskyy a “thug.”...​

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Ihe overwhelming majority of Republicans approve of sending weapons to Ukraine. In the meantime, a Quinnipiac poll released this month showed that more than two out of three Republicans support a ban on Russian oil imports even if that means higher gas prices at home. As for Russian President Vladimir Putin, GOP voters viewed him with contempt...​

​

Steve Bannon, a former senior adviser in the Trump White House, said on his podcast earlier this month that “no Republican should vote for any money for Ukraine … until we get a full briefing and disclosure of exactly what is going on with facts.” In a text message, Bannon said that “of course” he sees public opinion on the right shifting to his stance on Ukraine, adding, “it’s changed already.” Asked for examples of such a shift, he did not respond...​

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Last month, Greene and Rep. Paul Gosar of Arizona spoke at the America First Political Action Conference (Gosar addressed the gathering of white nationalists in a prerecorded video). The organizer, Nicholas Fuentes, a white nationalist activist who, before introducing Greene, urged support for Putin in the war with Ukraine. The crowd then chanted ​

“Putin! Putin!”
​

Trump-aligned 'America First' holdouts don't follow GOP in backing Ukraine

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Those two mouths are open. That can't be good.

 

[BWK]

Damn you sound exactly like a Trumper. Delusional.

Partisans of the duopoly don’t live in reality.

If rightwinger were delusional, you would have countered his argument.

 

[Big Bend Texas]

When the last Republican President supported Putin invading Ukraine…..you don’t have to look that hard

What the hell? That never happened.

 

[BWK]

I thought you trolls claimed his tax cuts ruined America.

That wasn’t “significant”?

He added $9 trillion to the national debt, and tax cuts have to be paid back. There was nothing significant about it.