Zone1 The original lie in the Garden of Eden

God was setting man up to "learn the hard way" by allowing the knowledge of good and evil. However, God also allowed Satan and demons free access to man. Without God's spirit indwelling mankind has been influenced more towards evil than towards good. It's still a mystery why God has chosen this for man, but it likely has to do with his anger over the rebellion of Lucifer and the damage that did to his Kingdom.
 
they did not answer the question being themselves under the spell used by the desert religions of servitude and denial -

than the true directive from heaven to a&e and their choice instead for self determination and all living beings the goal to triumph over evil to acquire judgement and admission to the everlasting.

Then they said, “Let us make life in our image, in our likeness, the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky the livestock and all the wild animals, and all the creatures that move along the ground.”

what jesus taught, monotheism where all beings are equally endowed and able to live as free spirits if so desired.
 
what jesus taught, monotheism where all beings are equally endowed and able to live as free spirits if so desired.
Not so. Jesus was very selective, ministering only to "the lost sheep of the house of Israel".
 


The original lie is that God wanted to keep Adam and Eve "down" by stopping them from eating of the fruit of knowledge.

Interesting perspective and something I can't really argue against.


Yes, from Satan's perspective yes
 
A bad run with women, eh? Shows up every time.
I had a pretty good run with women. :biggrin:

Women 'eat dirt' (Pica) and 'go on their belly' (give birth vaginally). Snakes don't do this.
 
what jesus taught, monotheism where all beings are equally endowed and able to live as free spirits if so desired.
Not so. Jesus was very selective, ministering only to "the lost sheep of the house of Israel".

were that even true, monotheism as taught by jesus of equality - would still apply for what nutz's claims.

- and is judaism that may claim otherwise their apartheid and monarchist religion and why wood is wrong as it is the lost sheep he claims who murdered him for that very reason among others.
 
Sure, you private Bible interpretation told you this, yep
I discovered this by researching the original Hebrew words. There is nothing in the discourse that suggests a "snake" was present in the garden. I knew beforehand that pregnant women eating dirt was and is a common practice all over the world.
 
I never believed the Adam and Eve story was literal. At most it was metaphorical. I am of the mindset the whole thing was total BS.
 
were that even true, monotheism as taught by jesus of equality - would still apply for what nutz's claims.

- and is judaism that may claim otherwise their apartheid and monarchist religion and why wood is wrong as it is the lost sheep he claims who murdered him for that very reason among others.
The Romans and the Jews murdered Jesus. The lost sheep of the house of Israel had nothing to do with it. Even today the Jews revel in his death, and the Romans glory in it by displaying images and likenesses of what they did to him.
 
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I discovered this by researching the original Hebrew words. There is nothing in the discourse that suggests a "snake" was present in the garden. I knew beforehand that pregnant women eating dirt was and is a common practice all over the world.

No, the translation literally says: AND THE SERPENT
 
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The Romans and the Jews murdered Jesus. The lost sheep of the house of Israel had nothing to do with it. Even today the Jews revel in his death, and the Romans glory in it by displaying images and likenesses of what they did to him
Re: my comment--the word for SERPENT and WOMAN are different.

Get thee into a church
 
I discovered this by researching the original Hebrew words. There is nothing in the discourse that suggests a "snake" was present in the garden. I knew beforehand that pregnant women eating dirt was and is a common practice all over the world.

Why in THE WORLD would be woman be compared to a "beast of the field"? That's a terrible interpretation and against the very heart of Genesis.

I'm sorry you hate women, that appears to be a you problem.
 
I had a pretty good run with women. :biggrin:

Women 'eat dirt' (Pica) and 'go on their belly' (give birth vaginally). Snakes don't do this.

The serpent was not a snake. But it was a "beast of the field"

GET TO CHURCH this is ridiculous. Put yourself under a good teacher.
 
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