The Official Discussion Thread for who is considered indiginous to Palestine?

[Lee Edwin]

...anyone born in historic Palestine?

No such place.

Why do you believe that?

Palestine is a generic European name, not Middle Eastern.

And, how is that relevant in modern post Palestinian Mandate times?

There never was a historic entity palestine.

Maybe not in right wing fantasy, but the more objective world, there is and was.

Arabs “historically” viewed the whole country as Syria, Sham in Arabic. For them, there was no such thing as a country palestine. Arabs adopting the name palestine, from the British, is recent, although they mispronounce it as falestine.

Historic Palestine is the region in that area.

There never has been an entity palestine founded by Middle Eastern people, or even named by Middle Eastern people. It’s a fictional European name.

The Romans administered the region as a public office.

Last time I checked, Rome was in Europe.

 

[Lee Edwin]

...anyone born in historic Palestine?

No such place.

Why do you believe that?

Palestine is a generic European name, not Middle Eastern.

And, how is that relevant in modern post Palestinian Mandate times?

There never was a historic entity palestine.

Maybe not in right wing fantasy, but the more objective world, there is and was.

Arabs “historically” viewed the whole country as Syria, Sham in Arabic. For them, there was no such thing as a country palestine. Arabs adopting the name palestine, from the British, is recent, although they mispronounce it as falestine.

Historic Palestine is the region in that area.

There never has been an entity palestine founded by Middle Eastern people, or even named by Middle Eastern people. It’s a fictional European name.

A name doesn't mean anything.

Does US history start before 1776 when there was no US?

Only historically legitimate names of the country for the last 3,000 years have been Israel or Judah, both pertaining to Jews.

 

[Sixties Fan]

...anyone born in historic Palestine?

No such place.

Why do you believe that?

Palestine is a generic European name, not Middle Eastern.

And, how is that relevant in modern post Palestinian Mandate times?

There never was a historic entity palestine.

Maybe not in right wing fantasy, but the more objective world, there is and was.

Arabs “historically” viewed the whole country as Syria, Sham in Arabic. For them, there was no such thing as a country palestine. Arabs adopting the name palestine, from the British, is recent, although they mispronounce it as falestine.

Historic Palestine is the region in that area.

There never has been an entity palestine founded by Middle Eastern people, or even named by Middle Eastern people. It’s a fictional European name.

The Romans administered the region as a public office.

Last time I checked, Rome was in Europe.

This discussion was had with Daniel Papos many ages ago. It will go nowhere. Feel free to post to anything more recent. The same goes to Tinmore.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

...anyone born in historic Palestine?

No such place.

Why do you believe that?

Palestine is a generic European name, not Middle Eastern.

And, how is that relevant in modern post Palestinian Mandate times?

There never was a historic entity palestine.

Maybe not in right wing fantasy, but the more objective world, there is and was.

Arabs “historically” viewed the whole country as Syria, Sham in Arabic. For them, there was no such thing as a country palestine. Arabs adopting the name palestine, from the British, is recent, although they mispronounce it as falestine.

Historic Palestine is the region in that area.

There never has been an entity palestine founded by Middle Eastern people, or even named by Middle Eastern people. It’s a fictional European name.

The Romans administered the region as a public office.

Last time I checked, Rome was in Europe.

This discussion was had with Daniel Papos many ages ago. It will go nowhere. Feel free to post to anything more recent. The same goes to Tinmore.

intelligent people have a natural curiosity to know whether or not something is true. Daniel and Tinmore do not.

Neither feels the least bit of embarrassment over it, either.

 

[danielpalos]

...anyone born in historic Palestine?

No such place.

Why do you believe that?

Palestine is a generic European name, not Middle Eastern.

And, how is that relevant in modern post Palestinian Mandate times?

There never was a historic entity palestine.

Maybe not in right wing fantasy, but the more objective world, there is and was.

Arabs “historically” viewed the whole country as Syria, Sham in Arabic. For them, there was no such thing as a country palestine. Arabs adopting the name palestine, from the British, is recent, although they mispronounce it as falestine.

Historic Palestine is the region in that area.

There never has been an entity palestine founded by Middle Eastern people, or even named by Middle Eastern people. It’s a fictional European name.

The Romans administered the region as a public office.

Last time I checked, Rome was in Europe.

Reality still exists. Why do you need, right wing fantasy? Europeans are in the new world and history has been both erased and created.

 

[danielpalos]

...anyone born in historic Palestine?

No such place.

Why do you believe that?

Palestine is a generic European name, not Middle Eastern.

And, how is that relevant in modern post Palestinian Mandate times?

There never was a historic entity palestine.

Maybe not in right wing fantasy, but the more objective world, there is and was.

Arabs “historically” viewed the whole country as Syria, Sham in Arabic. For them, there was no such thing as a country palestine. Arabs adopting the name palestine, from the British, is recent, although they mispronounce it as falestine.

Historic Palestine is the region in that area.

There never has been an entity palestine founded by Middle Eastern people, or even named by Middle Eastern people. It’s a fictional European name.

A name doesn't mean anything.

Does US history start before 1776 when there was no US?

Only historically legitimate names of the country for the last 3,000 years have been Israel or Judah, both pertaining to Jews.

Were the Samaritans not in the region of historic Palestine?

 

[P F Tinmore]

The discussion is as to WHO is Indigenous to the area of Ancient Canaan/Israel/Judea/Palestine. Which people, culture have had a defined history shared with any and all who passed by that area.

Do Arabs have a history shared by all who passed by that area going back 2 to 3,000 years or more in that area? Or does the Arab, and then Palestinian history begin in the 7th century AC?

Or do Jews have their history shared with other peoples who passed the area for at least 3000 years or more?

Was the area known as Historical Israel, Judea, before it the area was changed by the Romans to Syria Palestine in the 1st Century or not?

Were both people, Jewish and Arab, cultures dealing with each other 2000 to 3000 years ago? Or when did their involvement with each other start, and after which century?

Please, do not confuse Indigenous with being born at a certain place AFTER one had moved there. Only the First Nations of the Americas are the Indigenous people of the places where they settled and stayed and were found by the Europeans who only came after 1492.

Interesting thoughts. However, I think it is a mistake to think that there are only Arabs and Jews. The territory was already populated when the Hebrews came up from Egypt and was still populated after (most of) the Jews left.

Palestine has been conquered/invaded/occupied many times over its history. Normally the leaders are removed and everyone else stays to be exploited.

Many people have come and gone. However, there is a core group of people who stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built the cities and a functioning society. They are the natives of Palestine.

 

[Hollie]

The discussion is as to WHO is Indigenous to the area of Ancient Canaan/Israel/Judea/Palestine. Which people, culture have had a defined history shared with any and all who passed by that area.

Do Arabs have a history shared by all who passed by that area going back 2 to 3,000 years or more in that area? Or does the Arab, and then Palestinian history begin in the 7th century AC?

Or do Jews have their history shared with other peoples who passed the area for at least 3000 years or more?

Was the area known as Historical Israel, Judea, before it the area was changed by the Romans to Syria Palestine in the 1st Century or not?

Were both people, Jewish and Arab, cultures dealing with each other 2000 to 3000 years ago? Or when did their involvement with each other start, and after which century?

Please, do not confuse Indigenous with being born at a certain place AFTER one had moved there. Only the First Nations of the Americas are the Indigenous people of the places where they settled and stayed and were found by the Europeans who only came after 1492.

Interesting thoughts. However, I think it is a mistake to think that there are only Arabs and Jews. The territory was already populated when the Hebrews came up from Egypt and was still populated after (most of) the Jews left.

Palestine has been conquered/invaded/occupied many times over its history. Normally the leaders are removed and everyone else stays to be exploited.

Many people have come and gone. However, there is a core group of people who stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built the cities and a functioning society. They are the natives of Palestine.

It's comically tragic that you refer to something you call "natives of Palestine" when you earlier identify the area as being "conquered/invaded/occupied many times over its history".

As Arabs have been among the conquerors/invaders/occupiers, how, exactly, do they magically become the "natives of Palestine"? Have you forgotten that the land area you serially misidentify as your imagined "country of Pally'land" (Where Dreams Come True), was, for more than eight centuries, a Sanjak, (an administrative division of the Ottoman Empire), and never controlled or held as sovereign by any group called “Palestinian Arabs”?

 

[Lee Edwin]

...anyone born in historic Palestine?

No such place.

Why do you believe that?

Palestine is a generic European name, not Middle Eastern.

And, how is that relevant in modern post Palestinian Mandate times?

There never was a historic entity palestine.

Maybe not in right wing fantasy, but the more objective world, there is and was.

Arabs “historically” viewed the whole country as Syria, Sham in Arabic. For them, there was no such thing as a country palestine. Arabs adopting the name palestine, from the British, is recent, although they mispronounce it as falestine.

Historic Palestine is the region in that area.

There never has been an entity palestine founded by Middle Eastern people, or even named by Middle Eastern people. It’s a fictional European name.

A name doesn't mean anything.

Does US history start before 1776 when there was no US?

Only historically legitimate names of the country for the last 3,000 years have been Israel or Judah, both pertaining to Jews.

Were the Samaritans not in the region of historic Palestine?

Israel. There wasn’t any place palestine.

 

[Lee Edwin]

The discussion is as to WHO is Indigenous to the area of Ancient Canaan/Israel/Judea/Palestine. Which people, culture have had a defined history shared with any and all who passed by that area.

Do Arabs have a history shared by all who passed by that area going back 2 to 3,000 years or more in that area? Or does the Arab, and then Palestinian history begin in the 7th century AC?

Or do Jews have their history shared with other peoples who passed the area for at least 3000 years or more?

Was the area known as Historical Israel, Judea, before it the area was changed by the Romans to Syria Palestine in the 1st Century or not?

Were both people, Jewish and Arab, cultures dealing with each other 2000 to 3000 years ago? Or when did their involvement with each other start, and after which century?

Please, do not confuse Indigenous with being born at a certain place AFTER one had moved there. Only the First Nations of the Americas are the Indigenous people of the places where they settled and stayed and were found by the Europeans who only came after 1492.

Interesting thoughts. However, I think it is a mistake to think that there are only Arabs and Jews. The territory was already populated when the Hebrews came up from Egypt and was still populated after (most of) the Jews left.

Palestine has been conquered/invaded/occupied many times over its history. Normally the leaders are removed and everyone else stays to be exploited.

Many people have come and gone. However, there is a core group of people who stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built the cities and a functioning society. They are the natives of Palestine.

Hebrews and Jews are synonymous. Duh!

 

[Lee Edwin]

The discussion is as to WHO is Indigenous to the area of Ancient Canaan/Israel/Judea/Palestine. Which people, culture have had a defined history shared with any and all who passed by that area.

Do Arabs have a history shared by all who passed by that area going back 2 to 3,000 years or more in that area? Or does the Arab, and then Palestinian history begin in the 7th century AC?

Or do Jews have their history shared with other peoples who passed the area for at least 3000 years or more?

Was the area known as Historical Israel, Judea, before it the area was changed by the Romans to Syria Palestine in the 1st Century or not?

Were both people, Jewish and Arab, cultures dealing with each other 2000 to 3000 years ago? Or when did their involvement with each other start, and after which century?

Please, do not confuse Indigenous with being born at a certain place AFTER one had moved there. Only the First Nations of the Americas are the Indigenous people of the places where they settled and stayed and were found by the Europeans who only came after 1492.

Interesting thoughts. However, I think it is a mistake to think that there are only Arabs and Jews. The territory was already populated when the Hebrews came up from Egypt and was still populated after (most of) the Jews left.

Palestine has been conquered/invaded/occupied many times over its history. Normally the leaders are removed and everyone else stays to be exploited.

Many people have come and gone. However, there is a core group of people who stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built the cities and a functioning society. They are the natives of Palestine.

No place palestine ever existed. It’s an English word coined by Europeans.

First century Jewish city in Israel and synagogue, including menorah and depiction of Jewish Temple in Jerusalem, believed to be where Jesus preached

 

[danielpalos]

The discussion is as to WHO is Indigenous to the area of Ancient Canaan/Israel/Judea/Palestine. Which people, culture have had a defined history shared with any and all who passed by that area.

Do Arabs have a history shared by all who passed by that area going back 2 to 3,000 years or more in that area? Or does the Arab, and then Palestinian history begin in the 7th century AC?

Or do Jews have their history shared with other peoples who passed the area for at least 3000 years or more?

Was the area known as Historical Israel, Judea, before it the area was changed by the Romans to Syria Palestine in the 1st Century or not?

Were both people, Jewish and Arab, cultures dealing with each other 2000 to 3000 years ago? Or when did their involvement with each other start, and after which century?

Please, do not confuse Indigenous with being born at a certain place AFTER one had moved there. Only the First Nations of the Americas are the Indigenous people of the places where they settled and stayed and were found by the Europeans who only came after 1492.

Interesting thoughts. However, I think it is a mistake to think that there are only Arabs and Jews. The territory was already populated when the Hebrews came up from Egypt and was still populated after (most of) the Jews left.

Palestine has been conquered/invaded/occupied many times over its history. Normally the leaders are removed and everyone else stays to be exploited.

Many people have come and gone. However, there is a core group of people who stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built the cities and a functioning society. They are the natives of Palestine.

No place palestine ever existed. It’s an English word coined by Europeans.

First century Jewish city in Israel and synagogue, including menorah and depiction of Jewish Temple in Jerusalem, believed to be where Jesus preached

You make it seem like the Europeans had no influence in the area.

 

[Lee Edwin]

The discussion is as to WHO is Indigenous to the area of Ancient Canaan/Israel/Judea/Palestine. Which people, culture have had a defined history shared with any and all who passed by that area.

Do Arabs have a history shared by all who passed by that area going back 2 to 3,000 years or more in that area? Or does the Arab, and then Palestinian history begin in the 7th century AC?

Or do Jews have their history shared with other peoples who passed the area for at least 3000 years or more?

Was the area known as Historical Israel, Judea, before it the area was changed by the Romans to Syria Palestine in the 1st Century or not?

Were both people, Jewish and Arab, cultures dealing with each other 2000 to 3000 years ago? Or when did their involvement with each other start, and after which century?

Please, do not confuse Indigenous with being born at a certain place AFTER one had moved there. Only the First Nations of the Americas are the Indigenous people of the places where they settled and stayed and were found by the Europeans who only came after 1492.

Interesting thoughts. However, I think it is a mistake to think that there are only Arabs and Jews. The territory was already populated when the Hebrews came up from Egypt and was still populated after (most of) the Jews left.

Palestine has been conquered/invaded/occupied many times over its history. Normally the leaders are removed and everyone else stays to be exploited.

Many people have come and gone. However, there is a core group of people who stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built the cities and a functioning society. They are the natives of Palestine.

It's comically tragic that you refer to something you call "natives of Palestine" when you earlier identify the area as being "conquered/invaded/occupied many times over its history".

As Arabs have been among the conquerors/invaders/occupiers, how, exactly, do they magically become the "natives of Palestine"? Have you forgotten that the land area you serially misidentify as your imagined "country of Pally'land" (Where Dreams Come True), was, for more than eight centuries, a Sanjak, (an administrative division of the Ottoman Empire), and never controlled or held as sovereign by any group called “Palestinian Arabs”?

There never was an ancient entity in the Middle East named palestine—It’s an English word of Europeans. The country originally was named Canaan and after destroyed it became Israel...

 

[Lee Edwin]

The discussion is as to WHO is Indigenous to the area of Ancient Canaan/Israel/Judea/Palestine. Which people, culture have had a defined history shared with any and all who passed by that area.

Do Arabs have a history shared by all who passed by that area going back 2 to 3,000 years or more in that area? Or does the Arab, and then Palestinian history begin in the 7th century AC?

Or do Jews have their history shared with other peoples who passed the area for at least 3000 years or more?

Was the area known as Historical Israel, Judea, before it the area was changed by the Romans to Syria Palestine in the 1st Century or not?

Were both people, Jewish and Arab, cultures dealing with each other 2000 to 3000 years ago? Or when did their involvement with each other start, and after which century?

Please, do not confuse Indigenous with being born at a certain place AFTER one had moved there. Only the First Nations of the Americas are the Indigenous people of the places where they settled and stayed and were found by the Europeans who only came after 1492.

Interesting thoughts. However, I think it is a mistake to think that there are only Arabs and Jews. The territory was already populated when the Hebrews came up from Egypt and was still populated after (most of) the Jews left.

Palestine has been conquered/invaded/occupied many times over its history. Normally the leaders are removed and everyone else stays to be exploited.

Many people have come and gone. However, there is a core group of people who stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built the cities and a functioning society. They are the natives of Palestine.

No place palestine ever existed. It’s an English word coined by Europeans.

First century Jewish city in Israel and synagogue, including menorah and depiction of Jewish Temple in Jerusalem, believed to be where Jesus preached

You make it seem like the Europeans had no influence in the area.

Last time I checked, Europe was on another continent than the Middle East.

 

[danielpalos]

The discussion is as to WHO is Indigenous to the area of Ancient Canaan/Israel/Judea/Palestine. Which people, culture have had a defined history shared with any and all who passed by that area.

Do Arabs have a history shared by all who passed by that area going back 2 to 3,000 years or more in that area? Or does the Arab, and then Palestinian history begin in the 7th century AC?

Or do Jews have their history shared with other peoples who passed the area for at least 3000 years or more?

Was the area known as Historical Israel, Judea, before it the area was changed by the Romans to Syria Palestine in the 1st Century or not?

Were both people, Jewish and Arab, cultures dealing with each other 2000 to 3000 years ago? Or when did their involvement with each other start, and after which century?

Please, do not confuse Indigenous with being born at a certain place AFTER one had moved there. Only the First Nations of the Americas are the Indigenous people of the places where they settled and stayed and were found by the Europeans who only came after 1492.

Interesting thoughts. However, I think it is a mistake to think that there are only Arabs and Jews. The territory was already populated when the Hebrews came up from Egypt and was still populated after (most of) the Jews left.

Palestine has been conquered/invaded/occupied many times over its history. Normally the leaders are removed and everyone else stays to be exploited.

Many people have come and gone. However, there is a core group of people who stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built the cities and a functioning society. They are the natives of Palestine.

No place palestine ever existed. It’s an English word coined by Europeans.

First century Jewish city in Israel and synagogue, including menorah and depiction of Jewish Temple in Jerusalem, believed to be where Jesus preached

You make it seem like the Europeans had no influence in the area.

Last time I checked, Europe was on another continent than the Middle East.

The Romans were still there for hundreds of years and reorganized the area.

What is your opinion of city-States in the region of historic Palestine?

 

[Lee Edwin]

The discussion is as to WHO is Indigenous to the area of Ancient Canaan/Israel/Judea/Palestine. Which people, culture have had a defined history shared with any and all who passed by that area.

Do Arabs have a history shared by all who passed by that area going back 2 to 3,000 years or more in that area? Or does the Arab, and then Palestinian history begin in the 7th century AC?

Or do Jews have their history shared with other peoples who passed the area for at least 3000 years or more?

Was the area known as Historical Israel, Judea, before it the area was changed by the Romans to Syria Palestine in the 1st Century or not?

Were both people, Jewish and Arab, cultures dealing with each other 2000 to 3000 years ago? Or when did their involvement with each other start, and after which century?

Please, do not confuse Indigenous with being born at a certain place AFTER one had moved there. Only the First Nations of the Americas are the Indigenous people of the places where they settled and stayed and were found by the Europeans who only came after 1492.

Interesting thoughts. However, I think it is a mistake to think that there are only Arabs and Jews. The territory was already populated when the Hebrews came up from Egypt and was still populated after (most of) the Jews left.

Palestine has been conquered/invaded/occupied many times over its history. Normally the leaders are removed and everyone else stays to be exploited.

Many people have come and gone. However, there is a core group of people who stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built the cities and a functioning society. They are the natives of Palestine.

No place palestine ever existed. It’s an English word coined by Europeans.

First century Jewish city in Israel and synagogue, including menorah and depiction of Jewish Temple in Jerusalem, believed to be where Jesus preached

You make it seem like the Europeans had no influence in the area.

Last time I checked, Europe was on another continent than the Middle East.

The Romans were still there for hundreds of years and reorganized the area.

What is your opinion of city-States in the region of historic Palestine?

Jews were there long before Romans who were military invaders and occupiers. This is news to you?

 

[danielpalos]

The discussion is as to WHO is Indigenous to the area of Ancient Canaan/Israel/Judea/Palestine. Which people, culture have had a defined history shared with any and all who passed by that area.

Do Arabs have a history shared by all who passed by that area going back 2 to 3,000 years or more in that area? Or does the Arab, and then Palestinian history begin in the 7th century AC?

Or do Jews have their history shared with other peoples who passed the area for at least 3000 years or more?

Was the area known as Historical Israel, Judea, before it the area was changed by the Romans to Syria Palestine in the 1st Century or not?

Were both people, Jewish and Arab, cultures dealing with each other 2000 to 3000 years ago? Or when did their involvement with each other start, and after which century?

Please, do not confuse Indigenous with being born at a certain place AFTER one had moved there. Only the First Nations of the Americas are the Indigenous people of the places where they settled and stayed and were found by the Europeans who only came after 1492.

Interesting thoughts. However, I think it is a mistake to think that there are only Arabs and Jews. The territory was already populated when the Hebrews came up from Egypt and was still populated after (most of) the Jews left.

Palestine has been conquered/invaded/occupied many times over its history. Normally the leaders are removed and everyone else stays to be exploited.

Many people have come and gone. However, there is a core group of people who stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built the cities and a functioning society. They are the natives of Palestine.

No place palestine ever existed. It’s an English word coined by Europeans.

First century Jewish city in Israel and synagogue, including menorah and depiction of Jewish Temple in Jerusalem, believed to be where Jesus preached

You make it seem like the Europeans had no influence in the area.

Last time I checked, Europe was on another continent than the Middle East.

The Romans were still there for hundreds of years and reorganized the area.

What is your opinion of city-States in the region of historic Palestine?

Jews were there long before Romans who were military invaders and occupiers. This is news to you?

So were the Canaanites, Israelites, and the Philistines.

History of Palestine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Lee Edwin]

The discussion is as to WHO is Indigenous to the area of Ancient Canaan/Israel/Judea/Palestine. Which people, culture have had a defined history shared with any and all who passed by that area.

Do Arabs have a history shared by all who passed by that area going back 2 to 3,000 years or more in that area? Or does the Arab, and then Palestinian history begin in the 7th century AC?

Or do Jews have their history shared with other peoples who passed the area for at least 3000 years or more?

Was the area known as Historical Israel, Judea, before it the area was changed by the Romans to Syria Palestine in the 1st Century or not?

Were both people, Jewish and Arab, cultures dealing with each other 2000 to 3000 years ago? Or when did their involvement with each other start, and after which century?

Please, do not confuse Indigenous with being born at a certain place AFTER one had moved there. Only the First Nations of the Americas are the Indigenous people of the places where they settled and stayed and were found by the Europeans who only came after 1492.

Interesting thoughts. However, I think it is a mistake to think that there are only Arabs and Jews. The territory was already populated when the Hebrews came up from Egypt and was still populated after (most of) the Jews left.

Palestine has been conquered/invaded/occupied many times over its history. Normally the leaders are removed and everyone else stays to be exploited.

Many people have come and gone. However, there is a core group of people who stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built the cities and a functioning society. They are the natives of Palestine.

No place palestine ever existed. It’s an English word coined by Europeans.

First century Jewish city in Israel and synagogue, including menorah and depiction of Jewish Temple in Jerusalem, believed to be where Jesus preached

You make it seem like the Europeans had no influence in the area.

Last time I checked, Europe was on another continent than the Middle East.

The Romans were still there for hundreds of years and reorganized the area.

What is your opinion of city-States in the region of historic Palestine?

Jews were there long before Romans who were military invaders and occupiers. This is news to you?

So were the Canaanites, Israelites, and the Philistines.

History of Palestine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Philistines were European and became extinct. Canaanites became extinct. Israelites/Jews are the only survivors.

 

[Lee Edwin]

The discussion is as to WHO is Indigenous to the area of Ancient Canaan/Israel/Judea/Palestine. Which people, culture have had a defined history shared with any and all who passed by that area.

Do Arabs have a history shared by all who passed by that area going back 2 to 3,000 years or more in that area? Or does the Arab, and then Palestinian history begin in the 7th century AC?

Or do Jews have their history shared with other peoples who passed the area for at least 3000 years or more?

Was the area known as Historical Israel, Judea, before it the area was changed by the Romans to Syria Palestine in the 1st Century or not?

Were both people, Jewish and Arab, cultures dealing with each other 2000 to 3000 years ago? Or when did their involvement with each other start, and after which century?

Please, do not confuse Indigenous with being born at a certain place AFTER one had moved there. Only the First Nations of the Americas are the Indigenous people of the places where they settled and stayed and were found by the Europeans who only came after 1492.

Interesting thoughts. However, I think it is a mistake to think that there are only Arabs and Jews. The territory was already populated when the Hebrews came up from Egypt and was still populated after (most of) the Jews left.

Palestine has been conquered/invaded/occupied many times over its history. Normally the leaders are removed and everyone else stays to be exploited.

Many people have come and gone. However, there is a core group of people who stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built the cities and a functioning society. They are the natives of Palestine.

No place palestine ever existed. It’s an English word coined by Europeans.

First century Jewish city in Israel and synagogue, including menorah and depiction of Jewish Temple in Jerusalem, believed to be where Jesus preached

You make it seem like the Europeans had no influence in the area.

Last time I checked, Europe was on another continent than the Middle East.

The Romans were still there for hundreds of years and reorganized the area.

What is your opinion of city-States in the region of historic Palestine?

Jews were there long before Romans who were military invaders and occupiers. This is news to you?

So were the Canaanites, Israelites, and the Philistines.

History of Palestine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Palestine never existed.

 

[danielpalos]

The discussion is as to WHO is Indigenous to the area of Ancient Canaan/Israel/Judea/Palestine. Which people, culture have had a defined history shared with any and all who passed by that area.

Do Arabs have a history shared by all who passed by that area going back 2 to 3,000 years or more in that area? Or does the Arab, and then Palestinian history begin in the 7th century AC?

Or do Jews have their history shared with other peoples who passed the area for at least 3000 years or more?

Was the area known as Historical Israel, Judea, before it the area was changed by the Romans to Syria Palestine in the 1st Century or not?

Were both people, Jewish and Arab, cultures dealing with each other 2000 to 3000 years ago? Or when did their involvement with each other start, and after which century?

Please, do not confuse Indigenous with being born at a certain place AFTER one had moved there. Only the First Nations of the Americas are the Indigenous people of the places where they settled and stayed and were found by the Europeans who only came after 1492.

Interesting thoughts. However, I think it is a mistake to think that there are only Arabs and Jews. The territory was already populated when the Hebrews came up from Egypt and was still populated after (most of) the Jews left.

Palestine has been conquered/invaded/occupied many times over its history. Normally the leaders are removed and everyone else stays to be exploited.

Many people have come and gone. However, there is a core group of people who stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built the cities and a functioning society. They are the natives of Palestine.

No place palestine ever existed. It’s an English word coined by Europeans.

First century Jewish city in Israel and synagogue, including menorah and depiction of Jewish Temple in Jerusalem, believed to be where Jesus preached

You make it seem like the Europeans had no influence in the area.

Last time I checked, Europe was on another continent than the Middle East.

The Romans were still there for hundreds of years and reorganized the area.

What is your opinion of city-States in the region of historic Palestine?

Jews were there long before Romans who were military invaders and occupiers. This is news to you?

So were the Canaanites, Israelites, and the Philistines.

History of Palestine - Wikipedia

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Palestine never existed.

Where did the Philistines come from?