The Newt files

[thereisnospoon]

the father of our constitution says that separation of church and state is in the constitution that he wrote.

Yet the right claims its not for political gain.

They LIE about our constitution and the man who wrote it and then claim they are all about the constitution.

They just never stop lying.

Umm..That is Madison's OPINION.....Not the law of the land.
Tel ya what...You go find in the US Constitution where 'separation of church and state' is specific or those words even appear.
You are prohibited from use of the word 'lie' or 'liar'.
You use this term as a weapon as a last resort. Or whenever you have no come back.
Think of something else......for once.

 

[SAT2]

The words don't appear. But the concept does.

 

[Truthmatters]

willow , you are denying James madison said there is a guarntee of separation of church and statae in the constitution.

That is a cold hard fact which I have proven with Madisons own words and you called it a lie.

That means you called Madison himself a liar.

Prove he lied.

 

[Truthmatters]

the father of our constitution says that separation of church and state is in the constitution that he wrote.

Yet the right claims its not for political gain.

They LIE about our constitution and the man who wrote it and then claim they are all about the constitution.

They just never stop lying.

Umm..That is Madison's OPINION.....Not the law of the land.
Tel ya what...You go find in the US Constitution where 'separation of church and state' is specific or those words even appear.
You are prohibited from use of the word 'lie' or 'liar'.
You use this term as a weapon as a last resort. Or whenever you have no come back.
Think of something else......for once.

James Madison is known as the father of the constituion you fool.

He wrote MOST of it.

 

[Truthmatters]

James Madison - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


James Madison, Jr. (March 16, 1751 (O.S. March 5) – June 28, 1836) was an American statesman and political theorist. He was the fourth President of the United States (1809–1817) and is hailed as the “Father of the Constitution” for being the primary author of the United States Constitution and at first an opponent of, and then a key author of the United States Bill of Rights

 

[RadiomanATL]

 

[Truthmatters]

how very pathetic you all look now

 

[Truthmatters]

liars everyone of you who deny the constitution guarentees sepraration fo church and state

 

[The Infidel]

the father of our constitution says that separation of church and state is in the constitution that he wrote.

Yet the right claims its not for political gain.

They LIE about our constitution and the man who wrote it and then claim they are all about the constitution.

They just never stop lying.

Umm..That is Madison's OPINION.....Not the law of the land.
Tel ya what...You go find in the US Constitution where 'separation of church and state' is specific or those words even appear.
You are prohibited from use of the word 'lie' or 'liar'.
You use this term as a weapon as a last resort. Or whenever you have no come back.
Think of something else......for once.

This is TdM....

 

[The Infidel]

liars everyone of you who deny the constitution guarentees sepraration fo church and state

I just went and looked.... those words are'nt there

 

[Truthmatters]

do you understand words have meanings and the constitution is about ideas?


The first Amendment was written in part to make clear a separation of church and state.

That was the idea they were conveying.

Just ask madison.

 

[SAT2]

The concept is there.

 

[Truthmatters]

note they refuse to accept the intentions of the founders.

they dont care about the founders or the constitution.

They only care about the republican party.

 

[WillowTree]

willow , you are denying James madison said there is a guarntee of separation of church and statae in the constitution.

That is a cold hard fact which I have proven with Madisons own words and you called it a lie.

That means you called Madison himself a liar.

Prove he lied.

provide links..

 

[MeBelle]

House Banking Scandal: Newt Bounced 22 Checks
Remember the House Banking scandal, where so many congressmen wrote rubber checks on government money? Newt hopes you don't, because he bounced 22 himself, which almost cost him reelection in 1992. His vote for the secret House pay raise, and the chauffeur who drove him around Washington in a Lincoln Town Car, didn't help.

Yes dear, remember that scandal?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_banking_scandal

The House banking scandal ultimately involved more than 450 representatives, most of whom did not break any laws. Twenty-two congressmen and -women were singled out by the House Ethics Committee for leaving their checking accounts overdrawn for at least eight months out of a sample of 39 months.

The following 22 House members were singled out by the House Ethics Committee:

Name State Party # of checks Months overdue
Tommy F. Robinson Arkansas Democratic/Republican 996 16
Robert J. Mrazek New York Democratic 920 23
Robert W. Davis Michigan Republican 878 13
Doug Walgren Pennsylvania Democratic 858 16
Charles F. Hatcher Georgia Democratic 819 35
Stephen J. Solarz New York Democratic 743 30
Charles Hayes Illinois Democratic 716 15
Ronald D. Coleman Texas Democratic 673 23
Carl C. Perkins Kentucky Democratic 514 14
Bill Alexander Arkansas Democratic 487 18
William F. Goodling Pennsylvania Republican 430 9
Ed Towns New York Democratic 408 18
Ed Feighan Ohio Democratic 397 8
Harold Ford, Sr. Tennessee Democratic 743 30
Mickey Edwards Oklahoma Republican 386 13
Bill Clay Missouri Democratic 328 9
Tony Coelho California Democratic 316 12
John Conyers Michigan Democratic 273 9
Mary Rose Oakar Ohio Democratic 213 18
Joseph D. Early Massachusetts Democratic 124 13
Douglas H. Bosco California Democratic 124 13
Jim Bates California Democratic 89 9

 

[WillowTree]

House Banking Scandal: Newt Bounced 22 Checks
Remember the House Banking scandal, where so many congressmen wrote rubber checks on government money? Newt hopes you don't, because he bounced 22 himself, which almost cost him reelection in 1992. His vote for the secret House pay raise, and the chauffeur who drove him around Washington in a Lincoln Town Car, didn't help.

Yes dear, remember that scandal?
House banking scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The House banking scandal ultimately involved more than 450 representatives, most of whom did not break any laws. Twenty-two congressmen and -women were singled out by the House Ethics Committee for leaving their checking accounts overdrawn for at least eight months out of a sample of 39 months.

The following 22 House members were singled out by the House Ethics Committee:

Name State Party # of checks Months overdue
Tommy F. Robinson Arkansas Democratic/Republican 996 16
Robert J. Mrazek New York Democratic 920 23
Robert W. Davis Michigan Republican 878 13
Doug Walgren Pennsylvania Democratic 858 16
Charles F. Hatcher Georgia Democratic 819 35
Stephen J. Solarz New York Democratic 743 30
Charles Hayes Illinois Democratic 716 15
Ronald D. Coleman Texas Democratic 673 23
Carl C. Perkins Kentucky Democratic 514 14
Bill Alexander Arkansas Democratic 487 18
William F. Goodling Pennsylvania Republican 430 9
Ed Towns New York Democratic 408 18
Ed Feighan Ohio Democratic 397 8
Harold Ford, Sr. Tennessee Democratic 743 30
Mickey Edwards Oklahoma Republican 386 13
Bill Clay Missouri Democratic 328 9
Tony Coelho California Democratic 316 12
John Conyers Michigan Democratic 273 9
Mary Rose Oakar Ohio Democratic 213 18
Joseph D. Early Massachusetts Democratic 124 13
Douglas H. Bosco California Democratic 124 13
Jim Bates California Democratic 89 9

Uh oh, now you've done it. You've shown the demoncrats to be liars crooks and thieves who hate James Madison.. doggone it all to hell.

 

[thereisnospoon]

Clearly your understanding of the First Amendment is that of the typical uninformed individual.
You have, for your own purposes, taken the words written in the First Amendment out of context. You conveniently left out freedom OF religion and like all radical lefties taken it to the step of Freedom FROM religion...
Now I suppose you're going to screech on about 'separation of church and state'....Guess what? That does not exist.
I find it amusing how people like you will go batshit crazy over the mere sight of a Christmas ornament on public property or a Christmas display in a store. Yet you will defend to the ends of the Earth a policy which uses political correctness to expose public school students to Islamic studies.
This is why you radical lefties are marginalized in this country. You don't matter.

Absolutely, it means freedom from religion. That's an integral part of freedom OF. Freedom FROM.

I don't know of anyone who has gone crazy, batshit or otherwise, over a Christmas ornament in a store. Is there actually such a case?

No it does not...We do not enjoy freedom from religion.....Where did you ever get that from?
For example, if what you state is true, a person may address the courts in objection to ,hearing a prayer in public, seeing someone carrying or reading a Bible in public or perhaps being exposed to an advertising billboard for a local church. Or if one's child is walking the hall way of their school and hears the School Christian group meeting after school, in prayer.
It is absurd to believe we have the right be be free of all exposure to religious speech, buildings or artifacts. Suggesting such a thing leads one to think it is your premise that the US Constitution offers us the opportunity to live in total security or a vacuum.
Ya wanna bet?....Two or three years ago Target Stores forbid their employees from wishing customers "Merry Christmas"....Another store chain went so far off the PC deep end that they stopped the reference to Christmas Trees or the use of "Holiday".....They used the term "family tree"...WHAT THE ****!!!!!
USATODAY.com - Christians protest actions that play down Christmas' religious nature

Retailers urging Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas?-Truth! & Fiction!..
Ya know what....I don't like people who sit on the fence on issues waiting to see which way the wind blows then stating something that creates controversy. People that do this only do it for the attention they get.
There is a radio talk show host here that does exactly that. He will pick the side of an issue that generates the most callers to his show. He deliberately provokes people.
I listen to talk radio. However I do not listen to 'caller driven shows'..Those hosts are lame talking heads who are merely referees for callers to go back and forth. They have no positions of their own. I cannot stand people who stand for nothing.
You remind me of this host.
I have no use for people who have no core beliefs. For people who are watchers and antagonists. For rudderless ships. Get it?
Final post to you.
You may now have the last word. You must. You cannot resist.

 

[Truthmatters]

From James madisons pen

 

[The Infidel]

note they refuse to accept the intentions of the founders.

they dont care about the founders or the constitution.

They only care about the republican party.

You only care about "intentions" if you think it (might) prove your pathetic point.

You dont care about what The Constitution says about immigration, healthcare, abortion, birth certificates, yada yada yada,......etc etc

Go away with your phony outrage TM....

 

[The Infidel]

Just ask madison.

NEWSFLASH....!

Madison died a while back.... I cant ask him what he intended

Will a ouija board work....?