The Most Ignorant Line in the History of Man

Workers could live within walking distance of their place of employment. That is the way it used to work

Companies could not survive without a way to distribute their goods and services

Companies usd to distribute their goods and services within the same area as the workers. Now with internet you dont really need roads and bridges.
The argument over who benefiits more is silly. Such things are labelled communal goods precisely because you cannot quantify who benefits more than someone else We all benefit, period.

What is your point?

The argument is that businesses, the evil rich, utilize public services and public roads--all of which occur in a vacuum in which they contribute nothing--benefit from them and thus should pay higher taxes instead of reinvesting it, increasing employees, paying larger Christmas bonuses, whatever the hell they choose to do with other than forcefully giving it to a wasteful, inept, and ever increasingly politicized federal government.

My point is that Nutsucker's point is irrelevant.
 
Companies usd to distribute their goods and services within the same area as the workers. Now with internet you dont really need roads and bridges.
The argument over who benefiits more is silly. Such things are labelled communal goods precisely because you cannot quantify who benefits more than someone else We all benefit, period.

What is your point?

The argument is that businesses, the evil rich, utilize public services and public roads--all of which occur in a vacuum in which they contribute nothing--benefit from them and thus should pay higher taxes instead of reinvesting it, increasing employees, paying larger Christmas bonuses, whatever the hell they choose to do with other than forcefully giving it to a wasteful, inept, and ever increasingly politicized federal government.

My point is that Nutsucker's point is irrelevant.

Fair enough I suppose...
 
"If you've got a business—you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

Spoken by someone who clearly never built anything. :lol:

Leave it to the pseudo-cons to denigrate the unbelievable American system we've built to try and score some cheap political points with the low information voters.
 
It's a uniting statement, "We're all in this together", while that infrastructure, the nonrich, and the country are falling apart under shortsighted, pander to the rich, Reaganist bs. Hater dupes.....
 
"If you've got a business—you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

Spoken by someone who clearly never built anything. :lol:

Leave it to the pseudo-cons to denigrate the unbelievable American system we've built to try and score some cheap political points with the low information voters.

You dont get it. It is Obama & Co who are denigrating the system, denigrating the tremendous hard work and sacrifice of entrepreneurs like Carnegie, Ford, Gates, etc etc who built this economy and the prosperity it has produced.
 
"If you've got a business—you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

Spoken by someone who clearly never built anything. :lol:

Leave it to the pseudo-cons to denigrate the unbelievable American system we've built to try and score some cheap political points with the low information voters.

You dont get it. It is Obama & Co who are denigrating the system, denigrating the tremendous hard work and sacrifice of entrepreneurs like Carnegie, Ford, Gates, etc etc who built this economy and the prosperity it has produced.

What does Gates think about the comments? Have you any idea?
 
Post the entire statement and then say that....
ThereÂ’s no question Obama inartfully phrased those two sentences,
but itÂ’s clear from the context what the president was talking about.

If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.

The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we donÂ’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.
?You Didn?t Build That,? Uncut and Unedited

There how about that context OK?

Now FactCheck said it was clear! It definitely was clear that Obama thinks people can't succeed unless they have help from the government.

They excused the most articulate man. The smartest president. "inartfully" phrased!

NO excuses folks! Obama has told us he is smarter then anyone else!
“I think I could probably do every job on the campaign better than the people I’ll hire to do it.”
From The Obamas, by Jodi Kantor: “When David Plouffe, [Obama's] campaign manager, first interviewed for a job with him in 2006,
the senator gave him a warning. ‘I think I could probably do every job on the campaign better than the people I’ll hire to do it.’

Think about the next time "inartful" Obama opens his mouth!

But these are NOT isolated examples of the "inartfully" Obama!
HOW about these gems....
"It is that fundamental belief — I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper —"

YET his brother lives in this $12 a year hut!

$Obama-brother-Hut.webp
 
What is the point of his statement? It is to divide. It is disingenuous to suggest that business owners do not contribute the same, arguably more, than anyone else in society to the building and funding of road and bridges. Those business owners employ untold number of workers who pay their mortgages, feed their families, and live their lives. If you are running a business, growing the economy, and providing workers with employment--yeah they ******* did build that.

Again, the most ignorant, divisive, and disingenuous statement made by a modern president. The man whose entire private sector employment is working briefly at an ice cream store, what can you expect. He is presiding over, joyfully, America's decline.


They begin with affection for government bureaucracy and a distaste for individual achievement above the collective.

So this is a natural opinion for them to have and defend. You didn't build that, you don't earn that, you don't deserve that.

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Not going to read it because the premise "silliness" immediately points the writer is ignorant!
You just don't go around making stupid statements like that WITHOUT expecting responses especially from people that HAVE built it themselves IN SPITE of the governments' interventions!
For example obviously you and the author are totally ignorant of this ONE simple illustration of what a person who
"built it" has to go through just to meet OSHA standards!

http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=STANDARDS&p_id=9790
For example are you aware that PER OSHA "water closet" means a toilet facility maintained within a toilet room for the purpose of both defecation and urination and which is flushed with water.
Minimum number of Number of employees water closets
1 to 15.................................................... 1
16 to 35................................................... 2
36 to 55................................................... 3
56 to 80................................................... 4
81 to 110................................................. 5
111 to 150................................................6
Over 150 ..................................................1 for every 40 employees.

And this is just ONE of the Federal government's over the past three years, the bound edition of the Code of Federal Regulations has increased by 11,327 pages – a 7.4 percent increase
from Jan. 1, 2009 to Dec. 31, 2011. In 2009, the increase in the number of pages was the most over the last decade – 3.4 percent or 5,359 pages.

Over the past decade, the federal government has issued almost 38,000 new final rules, according to the draft of the 2011 annual report to Congress on federal regulations by the Office of Management and Budget. That brought the total at the end of 2011 to 169,301 pages.

And this is the "help" Obama/you and the Thompson thinks they were doing?
 


All right. Let's go with that. Maybe if I talk like Obama the idiots will finally get it.

If you have a job today, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to get a job. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a job—you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.

So you damn sure can pay "a little bit more."

See how that works?
 
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All right. Let's go with that.

If you have a job today, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to get a job. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a job—you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.

So you damn sure can pay "a little bit more."

See how that works?

this man is smarter than the average bear!

Well said.
 


All right. Let's go with that. Maybe if I talk like Obama you idiots will finally get it.

If you have a job today, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to get a job. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a job—you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.

So you damn sure can pay "a little bit more."

See how that works?

G....

I'm pretty sure that you are trying to argue the over-arching philosophy that liberals have versus conservatives when it comes to the commons and how it ought to be paid for.

You are not accusing Obama of telling business owners that they have not been pivotal in making their businesses successful.....are you?
 
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All right. Let's go with that. Maybe if I talk like Obama you idiots will finally get it.

If you have a job today, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to get a job. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a job—you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.

So you damn sure can pay "a little bit more."

See how that works?

G....

I'm pretty sure that you are trying to argue the over-arching philosophy that liberals have versus conservatives when it comes to the commons and how it ought to be paid for.

You are not accusing Obama of telling business owners that they have not been pivotal in making their businesses successful.....are you?

I am accusing Obama of class warfare populism. I think I have stated that quite plainly several times. And yes, I am of the belief that EVERYONE should pay for the commons. We should all have some skin in the game. The system has broken down and we have become a nation of "Gimme gimme gimme, and make that guy over there pay for it, or borrow it from China."

Unfortunately, this disease has infected the Right lately, too.
 
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"If you've got a business—you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen."

Spoken by someone who clearly never built anything. :lol:

It's easy to take a statement like that, standing alone, seem like something it was never intended to represent. But when the full context is revealed, so is the truth.

Here is the quote in its full context"

"Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that [the roads and bridges]. Somebody else made that happen."

Some folks might think you don't know what the phuck you're talking about. But, hey, I know you must not have done due diligence and checked that out properly, right? You wouldn't try to mislead others on purpose now, would you?

You are trying to mislead, why is that okay.
 
it's a uniting statement, "we're all in this together", while that infrastructure, the nonrich, and the country are falling apart under shortsighted, pander to the rich, reaganist bs. Hater dupes.....

lol!
 
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