The Misrepresented Political History of the Confederate Battle Flag

[9thIDdoc]

My great great grandfather died fighting under that flag trying to defend his home and family from murderous foreign invaders. To me that flag rightly honors him.

 

[TemplarKormac]

aaronleland

Did you bring any twinkies? In the Blue Bonnie wrapper?

 

[TemplarKormac]

aaronleland

Did you bring any twinkies? In the Blue Bonnie wrapper?

I guess not. They must have run out.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"The Misrepresented Political History of the Confederate Battle Flag"

Nonsense.

No one is 'misrepresenting' anything.

This is solely about most on the ridiculous right unwilling to address the issue of racism in America, and understandably so.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Displaying the flag of a treasonous (now non-existent) army above a government building is retarded. I don't care what their motives are.

So, free speech is only free when it doesn't offend someone. Cool beans.

Wrong.

This issue has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with 'free speech'; the First Amendment concerns only the relationship between government and those governed, not the relationship between and among private persons or organizations, who are at liberty to express their opposition to the flag and petition government for its removal from state property.

And no government entity in any state or jurisdiction is proposing that the confederate flag be 'banned' or otherwise 'prohibited' with regard to private use, private citizens who wish to display the flag will also remain at liberty to do so.

 

[Bush92]

It must stand as a symbol of resistance to the 1984 Orwellian NYC, Boston, Washing D.C. liberal Marxist that want to rewrite history.

 

[NoNukes]

Ban confederate battle flag avatars. Worse than child porn.

And you're one to talk of such a thing with an avatar like yours.

Seriously, dude?

You're better than the "Gays are pedophiles" bullshit.

Is he?

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Ban confederate battle flag avatars. Worse than child porn.

And you're one to talk of such a thing with an avatar like yours.

Seriously, dude?

You're better than the "Gays are pedophiles" bullshit.

Is he?

Yes.

 

[TemplarKormac]

I will not argue about the Confederate Flag anymore US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[NoNukes]

Ban confederate battle flag avatars. Worse than child porn.

And you're one to talk of such a thing with an avatar like yours.

Seriously, dude?

You're better than the "Gays are pedophiles" bullshit.

Is he?

Yes.

Seeing as I respect YOU, I will accept that.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Ban confederate battle flag avatars. Worse than child porn.

And you're one to talk of such a thing with an avatar like yours.

Seriously, dude?

You're better than the "Gays are pedophiles" bullshit.

No he isn't. You are just the NICEST GUY TO EVER EXIST.

 

[LoneLaugher]

flying one at a state capital probably not

So, nobody had a problem with it... until Dylann Roof shot up a black church? I'm quite perplexed by all of this to be honest.

That's purposeful ignorance. People have had a problem with it for decades.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Experiment my ass.

 

[rdean]

if you want to have one in a window or your yard

that is one

flying one at a state capital probably not

Exactly. Display it on any private property you want, but displaying the flag of an army whose goal was to overthrow the American government above a government building is absurd.

Overthrow? Are you kidding me? The Confederate States of America had no such goal.

That's a flat out lie.

What was their goal?

 

[jon_berzerk]

Do you believe the Confederates committed treason against our government?

I do.

Do you believe a traitor's flag should be hoisted above a government building?

No, it is a misrepresentation of the history of that flag. Now, states started flying any of the national flags, then once again, no.

it is a misrepresentation of the history of that flag

it was a battle flag

a battle flag used against the United States

It wasn't meant to be flown over a public building.

correct

 

[jon_berzerk]

if you want to have one in a window or your yard

that is one

flying one at a state capital probably not

Exactly. Display it on any private property you want, but displaying the flag of an army whose goal was to overthrow the American government above a government building is absurd.

Overthrow? Are you kidding me? The Confederate States of America had no such goal.

That's a flat out lie.

true

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Ban confederate battle flag avatars. Worse than child porn.

I am sure you'd know.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Why don't we just fly the swastika above our capitol to celebrate German heritage?

Because not all Germans are Nazi supporters. In fact, I don't think any of them are.

Do you believe the Confederates committed treason against our government?

Do you believe a traitor's flag should be hoisted above a government building?

Answer to the first question....NO.

 

[paulitician]

Racist white inbred redneck loons need to learn history. Wait, what? What i am i saying? Not sure an inbred redneck loon is capable of learning. Anyway, the Confederacy was never part of America. It was eliminated a 150 years ago. There is no valid justification for flying its flag on Government grounds. The Confederacy wasn't and isn't America. So just take the damn thing down.

 

[Syriusly]

6) The reason why I support the removal of the Confederate flag from the SC statehouse is for historical context. It wasn't designed to fly over any buildings, but over regiments in the battlefield. Nothing more. So, it is more a misrepresentation of the purpose of the flag than anything else.

People have a right to be offended, people have a right not to be. People have a right to represent their heritage. I've grown annoyed by people who see their history as offensive or repressive and must censor it to avoid causing derision. But I'd much rather represent my history than forget it. So, I'd urge you to educate yourselves on the true history of this flag."

I actually liked what you presented- but you ended your history of the Confederate Battle Flag prematurely, which I think detracts from your post.

After the Civil War, the Confederate Battle Flag largely disappeared, coming out for veterans events and such. It was not flown on State houses, was not on State flags- not until the late 1940's and afterwards- when the Dixiecrats(Southern Democrats) resurrected it as part of their fight to preserve segregation.

The History of the Confederate Battle Flag - The Atlantic

Georgia inserted the battle flag into its state flag in 1956. Two years later, South Carolina made it a crime to desecrate the Confederate flag. And then, on the centennial of the day South Carolina opened fire on Fort Sumter came in 1961, it hoisted the battle flag above its Capitol.

So the modern use of the Confederate Battle Flag, dates back only a few decades and was linked to the fight about segregation.

I agree that such use is an abuse of the original purpose of the flag- and while I agree this is entirely a State issue- up to each state to decide- I think Haley made the right decision.