The Misrepresented Political History of the Confederate Battle Flag

[TemplarKormac]

How many southerners are "supporters" of the Confederacy?

Admittedly, that number is unknown. But, it is of sincere belief that those who support it are in a clear minority.

 

[TemplarKormac]

flying one at a state capital probably not

So, nobody had a problem with it... until Dylann Roof shot up a black church? I'm quite perplexed by all of this to be honest.

 

[aaronleland]

if you want to have one in a window or your yard

that is one

flying one at a state capital probably not

Exactly. Display it on any private property you want, but displaying the flag of an army whose goal was to overthrow the American government above a government building is absurd.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Displaying the flag of a treasonous (now non-existent) army above a government building is retarded. I don't care what their motives are.

So, free speech is only free when it doesn't offend someone. Cool beans.

I don't understand your argument. How does "free speech" apply to flags on government property?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Do you believe the Confederates committed treason against our government?

I do.

Do you believe a traitor's flag should be hoisted above a government building?

No, it is a misrepresentation of the history of that flag. Now, states started flying any of the national flags, then once again, no.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

flying one at a state capital probably not

So, nobody had a problem with it... until Dylann Roof shot up a black church? I'm quite perplexed by all of this to be hones.

People have had "problems" with it for more than a hundred years.

 

[BluesLegend]

Recognize the left's flag faux rage for what it is, another attempt to stifle free speech and opposing views.

If you are a conservative you are a racist.

If you are white you are a racist.

If you live in the south you are a racist.

If you drive a truck with a Confederate battle flag in the window you are a racist.

If you are a white conservative living in the south driving a truck with a Confederate battle flag in the window you are like a quadruple racist.

 

[rdean]

You guys can't have it both ways. How many USMB right wingers believe it was conservative confederate Republicans who "freed the slaves"? The true patriots who fought the Democratic liberal south and finally drove all the Democrats, uh, where? Into the north? And then it was the much loved conservative Republicans who moved to the south and became southern Republicans? Or something? And then the liberal Democrats moved north and then, uh, well, it get hazy. But what ever happened, it was conservative Republicans who won the war and freed the slaves. Not sure how the flag fits in, but, hey, ask conservative Republicans on the USMB. It's their history. No one says it has to be dipped in facts.

 

[TemplarKormac]

How does "free speech" apply to flags on government property?

They don't.

 

[jon_berzerk]

flying one at a state capital probably not

So, nobody had a problem with it... until Dylann Roof shot up a black church? I'm quite perplexed by all of this to be hones.

i have always thought it was weird flying one over a capital

the decedents of general lee's northern Virginia army should be the only ones wanting for the southern cross

 

[BluesLegend]

if you want to have one in a window or your yard

that is one

flying one at a state capital probably not

Exactly. Display it on any private property you want, but displaying the flag of an army whose goal was to overthrow the American government above a government building is absurd.

Have you been paying attention to the corruption in the Federal government? Don't blindly defend a government that frequently throws its own citizens under the bus.

 

[TemplarKormac]

flying one at a state capital probably not

So, nobody had a problem with it... until Dylann Roof shot up a black church? I'm quite perplexed by all of this to be hones.

i have always thought it was weird flying one over a capital

the decedents of general lee's northern Virginia army should be the only ones wanting for the southern cross

Thing is, I agree with everything you just said.

 

[jon_berzerk]

Do you believe the Confederates committed treason against our government?

I do.

Do you believe a traitor's flag should be hoisted above a government building?

No, it is a misrepresentation of the history of that flag. Now, states started flying any of the national flags, then once again, no.

it is a misrepresentation of the history of that flag

it was a battle flag

a battle flag used against the United States

 

[theDoctorisIn]

flying one at a state capital probably not

So, nobody had a problem with it... until Dylann Roof shot up a black church? I'm quite perplexed by all of this to be hones.

i have always thought it was weird flying one over a capital

the decedents of general lee's northern Virginia army should be the only ones wanting for the southern cross

Thing is, I agree with everything you just said.

If we all agree, then what the **** are we arguing about?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Do you believe the Confederates committed treason against our government?

I do.

Do you believe a traitor's flag should be hoisted above a government building?

No, it is a misrepresentation of the history of that flag. Now, states started flying any of the national flags, then once again, no.

it is a misrepresentation of the history of that flag

it was a battle flag

a battle flag used against the United States

It wasn't meant to be flown over a public building.

 

[tinydancer]

if you want to have one in a window or your yard

that is one

flying one at a state capital probably not

Exactly. Display it on any private property you want, but displaying the flag of an army whose goal was to overthrow the American government above a government building is absurd.

Overthrow? Are you kidding me? The Confederate States of America had no such goal.

That's a flat out lie.

 

[TemplarKormac]

flying one at a state capital probably not

So, nobody had a problem with it... until Dylann Roof shot up a black church? I'm quite perplexed by all of this to be hones.

i have always thought it was weird flying one over a capital

the decedents of general lee's northern Virginia army should be the only ones wanting for the southern cross

Thing is, I agree with everything you just said.

If we all agree, then what the **** are we arguing about?

Would you believe me if I told you I was running this thread as an experiment?

 

[TemplarKormac]

To be quite honest, I didn't know which size to take. So, I made this thread. It is clear now that the side I took in the opening paragraph of my post was the correct one.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Gonna take weeks to get this tar and feathers out of my clothes.

 

[tinydancer]

Do you believe the Confederates committed treason against our government?

I do.

Do you believe a traitor's flag should be hoisted above a government building?

No, it is a misrepresentation of the history of that flag. Now, states started flying any of the national flags, then once again, no.

it is a misrepresentation of the history of that flag

it was a battle flag

a battle flag used against the United States

It was the battle flag of a peoples who wished to secede from the United States and who by force were not allowed to.