The Losertarian Party - Look at This List of Winners - LMAO

[g5000]

I sympathize a lot with Libertarians. As a conservative who has been very active in politics since I was a teenager, I have rubbed elbows with Libertarians for 40 years or so. And I quickly learned they are absolutely clueless about human nature.

I've actually had Libertarians tell me in so many words, "Corporations won't dump toxic chemicals into our water supply because then people won't like them or buy their stuff."

Yeah.

Their ideas about child labor laws and safety regulations are way out of whack, as well as their ideas about legalizing all drugs and shrinking our military down to the size of a cub scout troop. And don't even get me started on the Fed and the FDA and the FAA.

I do believe our federal government has far, far exceeded the bounds which our Founders originally intended it to have, and I am extremely angry about that. But I guess I am what you would call a libertarian (small "l") with common sense.

HUH?

WTF?

That's pure bullshit. No Libertarian has ever told you that "Corporations won't dump toxic chemicals into our water supply because then people won't like them or buy their stuff."

The Libertarian Party clearly delineates how to protect the environment in a Libertarian society.
Did The EPA Intentionally Poison Animas River To Secure SuperFund Money?

Well, there are some "extreme" libertarians too who do actually believe that there should be NO regulations on big business . . .

There should be NO government regulations on big business

That is correct

The only regulations that can be trusted are those of the free market.


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Extremism, exhibit A. Sorry, but you are only hurting your party with this type of nonsense.

Singapore and Hong Kong have virtually no regulations at all, probably the closest thing to Laissez-Faire in the world, and they are two of the most prosperous, successful economies on the planet

Singapore's Environmental Legislation

Some samples:

SMOKING (PROHIBITION IN CERTAIN PLACES) ACT

NATIONAL ENVIRONMENT AGENCY ACT

 

[g5000]

Libertarian rubes often like to cite Singapore as a libertarian paradise, but they are just parroting something someone else told them. They never actually took a look at Singapore's regulatory structure.

Some duties of Singapore's version of the EPA:

to manage and regulate air emissions from industrial premises, trade premises and vehicles;

(i) to construct, develop, manage and regulate refuse treatment and disposal facilities and to regulate refuse collection and disposal;

(l) to regulate the import, export, possession, storage, transportation, sale and use of hazardous substances and the import, export, storage, transportation, collection, treatment and disposal of toxic industrial waste;

(q) to provide advice on environmental pollution threats and disasters, and to develop and review standards and policies on environmental protection and environmental health;

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

HUH?

WTF?

That's pure bullshit. No Libertarian has ever told you that "Corporations won't dump toxic chemicals into our water supply because then people won't like them or buy their stuff."

The Libertarian Party clearly delineates how to protect the environment in a Libertarian society.
Did The EPA Intentionally Poison Animas River To Secure SuperFund Money?

Well, there are some "extreme" libertarians too who do actually believe that there should be NO regulations on big business . . .

There should be NO government regulations on big business

That is correct

The only regulations that can be trusted are those of the free market.


.

Extremism, exhibit A. Sorry, but you are only hurting your party with this type of nonsense.

Singapore and Hong Kong have virtually no regulations at all, probably the closest thing to Laissez-Faire in the world, and they are two of the most prosperous, successful economies on the planet

Singapore's Environmental Legislation

Some samples:

SMOKING (PROHIBITION IN CERTAIN PLACES) ACT

NATIONAL ENVIRONMENT AGENCY ACT

I didn't say they were absent of regulation. I said they were around the least regulated on the planet. Singapore is actually somewhat of an authoritarian government. There is a lot of censorship and they aren't as accepting of free speech like most of the industrialized world.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Libertarian rubes often like to cite Singapore as a libertarian paradise, but they are just parroting something someone else told them. They never actually took a look at Singapore's regulatory structure.

I've been to Singapore. My mother is from there.

 

[g5000]

So what happens to you in Libertopia Singapore if you are caught smoking on a bus, for example?

4. —(1) Any person reasonably suspected of having committed an offence under this Act may be arrested without warrant by any police officer or authorised officer and produced before a District Court or a Magistrate’s Court.

 

[Contumacious]

There should be NO government regulations on big business

That is correct

The only regulations that can be trusted are those of the free market.


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Extremism, exhibit A. Sorry, but you are only hurting your party with this type of nonsense.

"I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!"

Hon Barry Goldwater (R-Az)

Look buddy, big business will cut corners any way possible if you allow them too! They are sneaky and not to be trusted, and that is why regulating them is NECESSARY.

Look buddy, big government will cut corners any way possible if you allow them too! They are sneaky and not to be trusted, and that is why government regulating them is UNNECESSARY.

“Fascism should rightly be called corporatism, as it is the merger of corporate and government power.” ~ Benito Mussolini

Study the TARP policy , corporatism then, and only then repost

This isn't about TARP. It is about regulations on businesses which are certainly needed, as history will show.

The fascists and socialists will always come up with some pretext to regulate businesses , after all they are government supremacists.


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[ChrisL]

I sympathize a lot with Libertarians. As a conservative who has been very active in politics since I was a teenager, I have rubbed elbows with Libertarians for 40 years or so. And I quickly learned they are absolutely clueless about human nature.

I've actually had Libertarians tell me in so many words, "Corporations won't dump toxic chemicals into our water supply because then people won't like them or buy their stuff."

Yeah.

Their ideas about child labor laws and safety regulations are way out of whack, as well as their ideas about legalizing all drugs and shrinking our military down to the size of a cub scout troop. And don't even get me started on the Fed and the FDA and the FAA.

I do believe our federal government has far, far exceeded the bounds which our Founders originally intended it to have, and I am extremely angry about that. But I guess I am what you would call a libertarian (small "l") with common sense.

HUH?

WTF?

That's pure bullshit. No Libertarian has ever told you that "Corporations won't dump toxic chemicals into our water supply because then people won't like them or buy their stuff."

The Libertarian Party clearly delineates how to protect the environment in a Libertarian society.
Did The EPA Intentionally Poison Animas River To Secure SuperFund Money?

Well, there are some "extreme" libertarians too who do actually believe that there should be NO regulations on big business . . .

There should be NO government regulations on big business

That is correct

The only regulations that can be trusted are those of the free market.


.

Extremism, exhibit A. Sorry, but you are only hurting your party with this type of nonsense.

Singapore and Hong Kong have virtually no regulations at all, probably the closest thing to Laissez-Faire in the world, and they are two of the most prosperous, successful economies on the planet

And the MOST polluted where people actually become sick from breathing. A friend of mine went on a trip to China with her daughters recently and said the air quality was SO terrible.

 

[Contumacious]

I sympathize a lot with Libertarians. As a conservative who has been very active in politics since I was a teenager, I have rubbed elbows with Libertarians for 40 years or so. And I quickly learned they are absolutely clueless about human nature.

I've actually had Libertarians tell me in so many words, "Corporations won't dump toxic chemicals into our water supply because then people won't like them or buy their stuff."

Yeah.

Their ideas about child labor laws and safety regulations are way out of whack, as well as their ideas about legalizing all drugs and shrinking our military down to the size of a cub scout troop. And don't even get me started on the Fed and the FDA and the FAA.

I do believe our federal government has far, far exceeded the bounds which our Founders originally intended it to have, and I am extremely angry about that. But I guess I am what you would call a libertarian (small "l") with common sense.

HUH?

WTF?

That's pure bullshit. No Libertarian has ever told you that "Corporations won't dump toxic chemicals into our water supply because then people won't like them or buy their stuff."

The Libertarian Party clearly delineates how to protect the environment in a Libertarian society.
Did The EPA Intentionally Poison Animas River To Secure SuperFund Money?

Well, there are some "extreme" libertarians too who do actually believe that there should be NO regulations on big business . . .

There should be NO government regulations on big business

That is correct

The only regulations that can be trusted are those of the free market.


.

Extremism, exhibit A. Sorry, but you are only hurting your party with this type of nonsense.

Singapore and Hong Kong have virtually no regulations at all, probably the closest thing to Laissez-Faire in the world, and they are two of the most prosperous, successful economies on the planet

Hong Kong: Tempest in a Teapot – Or Something Much Bigger?

The slow decline of Hong Kong and rise of Shanghai and Shenzen are producing economic stress inside the former colony. Interestingly, many of Hong Kong’s original movers and shakers came originally from Shanghai.

China would be most unwise to send its army into Hong Kong at a time when it is trying to become the world’s epicenter of commerce and finance. So a backroom deal may be likely in which Beijing makes some concessions without losing much face. Otherwise, the tempest in the Hong Kong teapot could become a political tsunami for the rest of always restless China.

 

[ChrisL]

Singapore . . .

Singapore is starting to look like Beijing or New Delhi. That's because you can't see it through the haze. Smog has disrupted outdoor events, forced schools to close and sent commuters running for their surgical masks.

Singaporeans know why. Every year during the dry season, farmers and plantation companies light fires on the Indonesian islands of Sumatra and Borneo to clear land for farming and the production of paper and palm oil. Wind carries the smoke across the Malacca Strait and the South China Sea.

An especially bad episode in 1997 caused regional outrage and an estimated $9 billion in economic damage. Nearly two decades later, in 2013, air pollution readings in Singapore and Malaysia topped 400 and 700, respectively. (Anything above 301 is considered hazardous.) An El Nino weather pattern this year has raised fears that smoggy skies could persist into 2016.

On paper at least, regional governments have finally heeded calls to do something about the problem. Last year, Indonesia ratified anagreement that calls on countries to combat burning and share information. In May, the government extended a moratorium on clearing forests and peat land. Local laws are tough: Anyone responsible for setting fires can be sentenced to 15 years in jail and fined up to $350,000. Singapore, where several big paper and palm-oil companies are headquartered, has established fines of up to $2 million for corporations that enable or condone burning that pollutes the city-state.

 

[ChrisL]

(CNN)Indonesian officials have begun evacuating infants and their mothers from Riau province in Indonesia as levels of air pollution from peat and forest fires on Sumatra remain hazardous across the region.

The Mayor of Pekanbaru, the capital of Riau and one of the worst-affected areas of Sumatra, issued the order to evacuate all babies under six months of age on Tuesday afternoon. Thick smog has persisted for weeks and continues to cause illness and limit visibility in the area.
The air pollution index in the region has hovered above 1,000 for over a week, while visibility in Pekanbaru has fallen below 100 meters on some days. Any air pollution reading higher than 300 is deemed hazardous.
The mayor, named Firdaus, told local news agency Antara News that the children would be evacuated to a makeshift nursery in a town hall equipped with air conditioners, cribs and a health clinic.
"Poor families do not normally have good facilities for infants, thus the air pollution inside their homes is similar to that outside," he told local reporters.
"Therefore, we are trying to provide facilities, including good air conditioning, so that the infants, the country's next generation, can breathe clean air."
The Pekanbaru city government confirmed that evacuations had begun. "Some mothers and their babies have started to move into the room on the third floor of the Mayor's office in Pekanbaru," a September 30 statement on the government website said.
More than 35,000 people have fallen ill from the air pollution in the three months up to the end of September, according to the Riau province health agency. Most of those were suffering from respiratory ailments, although eye infections and skin irritation have also been reported.

 

[ChrisL]

Dumb fuckers.

 

[Contumacious]

I sympathize a lot with Libertarians. As a conservative who has been very active in politics since I was a teenager, I have rubbed elbows with Libertarians for 40 years or so. And I quickly learned they are absolutely clueless about human nature.

I've actually had Libertarians tell me in so many words, "Corporations won't dump toxic chemicals into our water supply because then people won't like them or buy their stuff."

Yeah.

Their ideas about child labor laws and safety regulations are way out of whack, as well as their ideas about legalizing all drugs and shrinking our military down to the size of a cub scout troop. And don't even get me started on the Fed and the FDA and the FAA.

I do believe our federal government has far, far exceeded the bounds which our Founders originally intended it to have, and I am extremely angry about that. But I guess I am what you would call a libertarian (small "l") with common sense.

HUH?

WTF?

That's pure bullshit. No Libertarian has ever told you that "Corporations won't dump toxic chemicals into our water supply because then people won't like them or buy their stuff."

The Libertarian Party clearly delineates how to protect the environment in a Libertarian society.
Did The EPA Intentionally Poison Animas River To Secure SuperFund Money?

Well, there are some "extreme" libertarians too who do actually believe that there should be NO regulations on big business . . .

There should be NO government regulations on big business

That is correct

The only regulations that can be trusted are those of the free market.


.

So, you at first deny there are Libertarians who say corporations won't dump toxic waste because then people won't like them or buy their stuff.

And then with your statement that "the only regulations that can be trusted are those of the free market" to keep them honest, you confirm you are one such person.

Stop bullshitting Mendel,

Ron Paul on Environment

Republican Representative (TX-14); previously Libertarian for President

Eliminate the ineffective EPA

• 
  As President, Ron Paul will lead the fight to:
• Remove restrictions on drilling, so companies can tap into the vast amount of oil we have here at home.
• Repeal the federal tax on gasoline. Eliminating the federal gas tax would result in an 18 cents savings per gallon for American consumers.
• Lift government roadblocks to the use of coal and nuclear power.
• Eliminate the ineffective EPA. Polluters should answer directly to property owners in court for the damages they create --not to Washington.
• Make tax credits available for the purchase and production of alternative fuel technologies.

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[ChrisL]

I sympathize a lot with Libertarians. As a conservative who has been very active in politics since I was a teenager, I have rubbed elbows with Libertarians for 40 years or so. And I quickly learned they are absolutely clueless about human nature.

I've actually had Libertarians tell me in so many words, "Corporations won't dump toxic chemicals into our water supply because then people won't like them or buy their stuff."

Yeah.

Their ideas about child labor laws and safety regulations are way out of whack, as well as their ideas about legalizing all drugs and shrinking our military down to the size of a cub scout troop. And don't even get me started on the Fed and the FDA and the FAA.

I do believe our federal government has far, far exceeded the bounds which our Founders originally intended it to have, and I am extremely angry about that. But I guess I am what you would call a libertarian (small "l") with common sense.

HUH?

WTF?

That's pure bullshit. No Libertarian has ever told you that "Corporations won't dump toxic chemicals into our water supply because then people won't like them or buy their stuff."

The Libertarian Party clearly delineates how to protect the environment in a Libertarian society.
Did The EPA Intentionally Poison Animas River To Secure SuperFund Money?

Well, there are some "extreme" libertarians too who do actually believe that there should be NO regulations on big business . . .

There should be NO government regulations on big business

That is correct

The only regulations that can be trusted are those of the free market.


.

So, you at first deny there are Libertarians who say corporations won't dump toxic waste because then people won't like them or buy their stuff.

And then with your statement that "the only regulations that can be trusted are those of the free market" to keep them honest, you confirm you are one such person.

Stop bullshitting Mendel,

Ron Paul on Environment

Republican Representative (TX-14); previously Libertarian for President

Eliminate the ineffective EPA

• 
  As President, Ron Paul will lead the fight to:
• Remove restrictions on drilling, so companies can tap into the vast amount of oil we have here at home.
• Repeal the federal tax on gasoline. Eliminating the federal gas tax would result in an 18 cents savings per gallon for American consumers.
• Lift government roadblocks to the use of coal and nuclear power.
• Eliminate the ineffective EPA. Polluters should answer directly to property owners in court for the damages they create --not to Washington.
• Make tax credits available for the purchase and production of alternative fuel technologies.

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It's too late by then, dummy.

 

[ChrisL]

Ignore radical extremists. That's my motto.

 

[Contumacious]

Elected Officials | Libertarian Party

This site lists the 100 or so Losertarians currently holding office. Lol it is pathetic.

No state or Federal legislature, maybe 5 mayors of insignificant tiny cities and 2 low level judges.

The vast vast majority of Losertarian officials occupy meaningless "clutter" posts that goes against every one of their stated positions of small government.

Congrats you have accomplished so much in you near 5 decades of existence!

What have Republicans and Democrats done for this country lately?

Good question. I have seen first hand the over-regulation of the banking and financial sector. The country is burdened by debt. The country is has many issues. Immigration is a joke. Education is a joke. Politicians rally against H1B visas yet these very high paying jobs don't have enough educated Americans for the job. I do legal compliance for a too big to fail Bank's eBusiness department. H1B requires the job to be lists for 6 months before going overseas. These jobs get few qualified American applicants, yet within days of going overseas you get dozens upon dozens of qualified applicants!

I digress I see both parties leading us down the wrong path. Are Libertarians the answers? I will admit agree with many of their policies, but they have been around for nearly 5 decades and haven't had any success. Just saying.

FIRST , you have got to define success


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[ChrisL]

Corporate Pollution | One World Education, Inc.

 

[Contumacious]

HUH?

WTF?

That's pure bullshit. No Libertarian has ever told you that "Corporations won't dump toxic chemicals into our water supply because then people won't like them or buy their stuff."

The Libertarian Party clearly delineates how to protect the environment in a Libertarian society.
Did The EPA Intentionally Poison Animas River To Secure SuperFund Money?

Well, there are some "extreme" libertarians too who do actually believe that there should be NO regulations on big business . . .

There should be NO government regulations on big business

That is correct

The only regulations that can be trusted are those of the free market.


.

So, you at first deny there are Libertarians who say corporations won't dump toxic waste because then people won't like them or buy their stuff.

And then with your statement that "the only regulations that can be trusted are those of the free market" to keep them honest, you confirm you are one such person.

Stop bullshitting Mendel,

Ron Paul on Environment

Republican Representative (TX-14); previously Libertarian for President

Eliminate the ineffective EPA

• 
  As President, Ron Paul will lead the fight to:
• Remove restrictions on drilling, so companies can tap into the vast amount of oil we have here at home.
• Repeal the federal tax on gasoline. Eliminating the federal gas tax would result in an 18 cents savings per gallon for American consumers.
• Lift government roadblocks to the use of coal and nuclear power.
• Eliminate the ineffective EPA. Polluters should answer directly to property owners in court for the damages they create --not to Washington.
• Make tax credits available for the purchase and production of alternative fuel technologies.

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It's too late by then, dummy.

The retards never cease to amaze me - consider for example the Price Anderson Act, then and ONLY then repost


Nuclear Regulatory Confusion
By John Levendis and Walter E. Block



Introduction:

The nuclear power industry has never been free from government interference. The unintended consequence of subsidization and regulation has been a distortion in the price of nuclear power and an increase in the risk of nuclear catastrophe. Subsidies, via the Price-Anderson Act, and regulations via the Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC), should be removed. In fact, all governmental distortions in the energy market should be removed. Only if the nuclear industry is free from government intrusion can we ever answer the question: should there even be a nuclear industry?


More importantly, the Price-Anderson Act insulates the power companies from paying any damages over this amount.


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[Dont Taz Me Bro]

HUH?

WTF?

That's pure bullshit. No Libertarian has ever told you that "Corporations won't dump toxic chemicals into our water supply because then people won't like them or buy their stuff."

The Libertarian Party clearly delineates how to protect the environment in a Libertarian society.
Did The EPA Intentionally Poison Animas River To Secure SuperFund Money?

Well, there are some "extreme" libertarians too who do actually believe that there should be NO regulations on big business . . .

There should be NO government regulations on big business

That is correct

The only regulations that can be trusted are those of the free market.


.

Extremism, exhibit A. Sorry, but you are only hurting your party with this type of nonsense.

Singapore and Hong Kong have virtually no regulations at all, probably the closest thing to Laissez-Faire in the world, and they are two of the most prosperous, successful economies on the planet

And the MOST polluted where people actually become sick from breathing. A friend of mine went on a trip to China with her daughters recently and said the air quality was SO terrible.

That's China. I'm talking about Singapore and Hong Kong. And yes, I'm aware Hong Kong is now part of China, but they are a fairly autonomous region. Both places have some of the highest longevity rates in the world.

You don't know what you're talking about.

 

[ChrisL]

Large companies are not thinking about the environmental consequences when they dispose of their unwanted waste. It is easier for the corporation to dump their waste into the local waterway than to dispose of it properly. When caught, the government fines them. However, a small fine is no issue for large-scale corporations. They just pay the fine and continue to dump their leftovers into the water. This brings the idea that there should be larger fines and personal accountability for corporations that pollute our waters.

Although fines should be raised, the government may point to policy reasons why there should not be larger fines for corporations. For example, the government maintains a corporation-protecting policy, claiming, for example, that companies deserve a right to privacy via the Constitution. Secondly, the government points to possible bankruptcy as the result of fines, which, in turn, leads to unemployment. Finally, the government may also believe that companies are not causing THAT much harm to the environment or that large-scale companies may not be the only factors of pollution.

Some people feel that the government shouldn't get involved in a company’s business. The cornerstone of our society is that we live in a free country, and have the right to privacy; by definition then, the government should not get involved or at the very least, be involved to the minimum extent possible. However, the government won’t be able to prevent pollution until it finds out the exact cause of the pollution in the company. Once it finds out what is causing the pollution, it could then find a way to get rid of the pollution. In addition, the government represents our nation and therefore must have its citizens’ best interest in mind. It has to care about our general welfare, which is stated in the Preamble of the Constitution. The government can’t take care of our health unless it tries to prevent pollution by raising fines.

 

[ChrisL]

Well, there are some "extreme" libertarians too who do actually believe that there should be NO regulations on big business . . .

There should be NO government regulations on big business

That is correct

The only regulations that can be trusted are those of the free market.


.

Extremism, exhibit A. Sorry, but you are only hurting your party with this type of nonsense.

Singapore and Hong Kong have virtually no regulations at all, probably the closest thing to Laissez-Faire in the world, and they are two of the most prosperous, successful economies on the planet

And the MOST polluted where people actually become sick from breathing. A friend of mine went on a trip to China with her daughters recently and said the air quality was SO terrible.

That's China. I'm talking about Singapore and Hong Kong. And yes, I'm aware Hong Kong is now part of China, but they are a fairly autonomous region. Both places have some of the highest longevity rates in the world.

You don't know what you're talking about.

Bullshit.