The Limits of "Free Speech"

[Zincwarrior]

then there's us the other half.

Nope, you're definitely one.

 

[jc456]

Nope, you're definitely one.

naw, see it's my narrative and you don't own it. fk you

 

[Zincwarrior]

naw, see it's my narrative and you don't own it. fk you

See.

 

[jc456]

See.

yep, I see nothing cause it's all you have.

 

[BlindBoo]

yeah, and how many leftist crack jokes about the misfortunes of republicans? On an almost daily basis.

I don't ever recall a leader of either party cracking jokes publicly about assassinations or assassination attempts on Americans.

where? name one

Just one?

Berg to Hortman.

Silverman: Alan Berg’s legacy remains powerful 40 years after neo-Nazis gunned him down

Those who knew Denver radio host Alan Berg say he would be disgusted by today’s rise in antisemitism and hate groups.

coloradosun.com

 

[scruffy]

He absolutely is.

Horseshit.

 

[jc456]

I don't ever recall a leader of either party cracking jokes publicly about assassinations or assassination attempts on Americans.

Just one?

Berg to Hortman.

Silverman: Alan Berg’s legacy remains powerful 40 years after neo-Nazis gunned him down

Those who knew Denver radio host Alan Berg say he would be disgusted by today’s rise in antisemitism and hate groups.

coloradosun.com

isn't anything called neo-nazi in today's world.

 

[Papageorgio]

It is always construed by the courts as narrowly as possible to avoid a violation of the actual violation of free speech rights.

I agree, the first amendment is not to be messed with, just like the 2nd.

 

[jc456]

I agree, the first amendment is not to be messed with, just like the 2nd.

what's sad is demofks don't like either and wish to punish conservatives for their views. What a sad bunch of fkers.

 

[jc456]

disagree with demofks, get unalived.
and why they call us fascist hilarious.

 

[BackAgain]

I agree, the first amendment is not to be messed with, just like the 2nd.

Both seem to be couched in “absolutist” terminology. But, if we accept that some speech cannot be legally uttered (e.g., falsely yelling “fire” in a crowded theater or disclosing troop movements in time of war, etc.), then, by the same logic, there seems to be a reasonable basis to concede that even the Second Amendment right to bear arms can have some limited restrictions. Like:

Convicted felons lose that right. Those who have been institutionalized for serious mental health problems can perhaps have their rights curtailed (at least until evidence shows that they are no longer a threat).

Even so, such restrictions have to be narrowly tailored because otherwise some government agents might abuse the exceptions and improperly tread on those rights

 

[OODA_Loop]

Both seem to be couched in “absolutist” terminology. But, if we accept that some speech cannot be legally uttered (e.g., falsely yelling “fire” in a crowded theater or disclosing troop movements in time of war, etc.), then, by the same logic, there seems to be a reasonable basis to concede that even the Second Amendment right to bear arms can have some limited restrictions. Like:

Convicted felons lose that right. Those who have been institutionalized for serious mental health problems can perhaps have their rights curtailed (at least until evidence shows that they are no longer a threat).

Even so, such restrictions have to be narrowly tailored because otherwise some government agents might abuse the exceptions and improperly tread on those rights

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[Hafar1014]

Both seem to be couched in “absolutist” terminology. But, if we accept that some speech cannot be legally uttered (e.g., falsely yelling “fire” in a crowded theater or disclosing troop movements in time of war, etc.), then, by the same logic, there seems to be a reasonable basis to concede that even the Second Amendment right to bear arms can have some limited restrictions. Like:

Convicted felons lose that right. Those who have been institutionalized for serious mental health problems can perhaps have their rights curtailed (at least until evidence shows that they are no longer a threat).

Even so, such restrictions have to be narrowly tailored because otherwise some government agents might abuse the exceptions and improperly tread on those rights

Ill give you an example. I was a mandatory reporter. If I had a patient who made a credible threat to harm self or others I start the process for commitment or arrest. I have done this many rimes. It cant be I hate my neighbor I wish he was dead. It has to have plan like I hate my neighbor Im going home getting my gun and killing him. So that speech will be acted on.

Ill tell you something funny about this. I worked the 9th floor psych unit at Temple Hospital in Phila. This happen all the time. A women is admitted against her will because she took 10 Xanax. We know this is fake suicide attempt but it meets criteria so in she goes. I get to do the intake. So I ask why did you take the pills. Every time she says my boyfriend is cheating on me Im going to teach him a lesson. So I asked where is he now. She says With her. And where are you now. No answer. 10 minutes later she is sitting next to a homeless person talking to himself. I miss those days

 

[BackAgain]

Ill give you an example. I was a mandatory reporter. If I had a patient who made a credible threat to harm self or others I start the process for commitment or arrest. I have done this many rimes. It cant be I hate my neighbor I wish he was dead. It has to have plan like I hate my neighbor Im going home getting my gun and killing him. So that speech will be acted on.

Ill tell you something funny about this. I worked the 9th floor psych unit at Temple Hospital in Phila. This happen all the time. A women is admitted against her will because she took 10 Xanax. We know this is fake suicide attempt but it meets criteria so in she goes. I get to do the intake. So I ask why did you take the pills. Every time she says my boyfriend is cheating on me Im going to teach him a lesson. So I asked where is he now. She says With her. And where are you now. No answer. 10 minutes later she is sitting next to a homeless person talking to himself. I miss those days

Not someone I’d like to have a gun.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Again, they both have a Constitutional right to say what they said, neither is a public official, I don’t agree with what they said but in my country, we have free speech to say what we want. I will defend that.

He clearly said people should shoot conservatives who PEACEABLY ASSEMBLE (That's the First Amendment) so as to INTIMIDATE the rest for the purpose of DENYING THE RIGHT of their Constitutional rights.

A gunman who shoots another for the purpose of intimidation or even the person who encouraged such acts is a DOMESTIC TERRORIST.

HIS speech is not covered by the speech portion of the First Amendment. It is an act of terrorism and terrorism is NOT protected speech

 

[ChristisKing]

What are the limits of free speech? I have no idea who this guy is, but I guess he's supposed to be somebody in this culture. Personally I agree with Elon. Inciting the unstable to murder make you an accessory and a terrorist

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Well, there's two different ways that this could be looked at:

1. He was saying it out of concern for conservatives or:
2. He was actually making a threat.


I'm not sure which but sounds extremely suspicious and questionable to me.

Don't you all see what the Left is doing, they are using our freedoms guaranteed by the Bill of Rights to murder conservatives, whether it be freedom of speech to incite violence or the freedom of arms to carry out the violence.

Then they sit back and laugh and celebrate as if proof that we really should not have those freedoms.

They're also laughing and joking about a man's murder because they know they can get away with it underneath the first amendment because technically it's freedom of speech. It completely sickens me.

Half the posters on this board.

Yeah, have you looked in the mirror lately?

where? name one

Apparently the liberals refer to the death penalty as murder because I was talking about it in another topic and now apparently I'm a murder. However, when I kept questioning them on what abortion is nothing. Absolutely NOTHING.

 

[JohnDB]

 

[jc456]

Jimmy kimball found out

 

[Carl in Michigan]