The Lies of the Left

[BlindBoo]

They could be re-purposed. But how did a few lost, decaying caches of these chemical warheads, in a country that had been bombed back to the stone age, pose a threat to any one but the unlucky bastard who might happen to find them?

Muslim Terrorists would have loved to get their hands on them and the poor people in Iraq would have loved to have sold it to them for money.
Nothing like mustard gas in the subways of Europe and New York City eh?

Saddam was a hard line dictator. He didn't allow Islamic Terrorist Groups to operate inside his country. Furthermore he never allowed the groups he funded in Palestine or Iran to have access to such weapons.

So in reality that threat came because of the invasion, or rather the failed occupation.

I am just at my wits end with the stupidiyt that oozes off this board every day. Stupidity and ignorance.
Saddam s Terror Training Camps The Weekly Standard

THE FORMER IRAQI REGIME OF Saddam Hussein trained thousands of radical Islamic terrorists from the region at camps in Iraq over the four years immediately preceding the U.S. invasion, according to documents and photographs recovered by the U.S. military in postwar Iraq. The existence and character of these documents has been confirmed to THE WEEKLY STANDARD by eleven U.S. government officials

Short trip?

Still singing the same tune as they were in 2001,

"First, like Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein hates the United States with a vengeance he expresses at every opportunity."

"Second, Saddam Hussein has an array of chemical and biological weapons and has been willing to absorb the pain of a decade-long embargo rather than allow international inspectors to uncover the full magnitude of his program."

"Third, we know that Saddam Hussein has engaged directly in acts of terror and given sanctuary and other support to terrorists. In 1993 he planned the assassination of George H. W. Bush during the former president's visit to Kuwait. He operates a terrorist training facility at Salman Pak complete with a passenger aircraft cabin for training in hijacking."

The U.S. Must Strike at Saddam Hussein - NYTimes.com

You forgot these gems:

“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them.
That is our bottom line.”
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

“Iraq is a long way from USA but, what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.”
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.”
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

“We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S.Constitution and Laws, to take necessary actions, (including, if appropriate,
air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction
programs.”
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998


“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

Why? As you well know many Democrats are complicit in our interventionist policies. These statements were them supporting the air strikes President Clinton authorized.

On the other side at the time, Saddam was accusing the US of using the inspection teams with US personal in them as a means of spying on Iraq's military assets. So of course we bombed them.

 

[BlindBoo]

Just to point out there were WMDs in Iraq, just not to the scale that we were led to believe with George Tenet's "slam dunk case".

Liberalism is based on a lie. The lie that it's even possible to have a classless society where everyone works as hard as they can for a collective.

That wouldn't be a human society, that would be an ant colony.

The marxist dogma that the left is founded on is a utopian pipe dream, an utter fantasy. When you consider the hellish nightmares that marxist regimes have unleashed on people a rational person would avoid those philosophies like the plague. Bed wetting liberals have to be deliberately ignorant in order to ignore that history, or the sort of criminally insane authoritarian sociopath that desires a repeat of that history as long as they're in a good political position.

Actually there was nothing in Iraq that the Bush Administration claimed was there. The only thing they found were old stockpiles of dilapidated, unusable weapons dating from a time when Saddam was receiving support from President Reagan and President Bush (41).

Leading To War a film that chronicles the path to war in Iraq

Add to that Congress did not vote to invade Iraq, they gave that power and decision to Bush, as he (Bush) thought necessary. Secondly the Congress and the President did not have the same information on Iraq.

Bullshit
Congres knew they were authorizing war. that was the whole debate.
Some members of Congress had exactly the same info.

Just to point out there were WMDs in Iraq, just not to the scale that we were led to believe with George Tenet's "slam dunk case".

Liberalism is based on a lie. The lie that it's even possible to have a classless society where everyone works as hard as they can for a collective.

That wouldn't be a human society, that would be an ant colony.

The marxist dogma that the left is founded on is a utopian pipe dream, an utter fantasy. When you consider the hellish nightmares that marxist regimes have unleashed on people a rational person would avoid those philosophies like the plague. Bed wetting liberals have to be deliberately ignorant in order to ignore that history, or the sort of criminally insane authoritarian sociopath that desires a repeat of that history as long as they're in a good political position.

Actually there was nothing in Iraq that the Bush Administration claimed was there. The only thing they found were old stockpiles of dilapidated, unusable weapons dating from a time when Saddam was receiving support from President Reagan and President Bush (41).

Leading To War a film that chronicles the path to war in Iraq

Add to that Congress did not vote to invade Iraq, they gave that power and decision to Bush, as he (Bush) thought necessary. Secondly the Congress and the President did not have the same information on Iraq.

Bullshit
Congres knew they were authorizing war. that was the whole debate.
Some members of Congress had exactly the same info.

The Congress dumped the decision onto Bush. If Bush had decided not to invade Iraq we would not have invaded, if Bush did decide to invade we would invade. It was Bush's decision, and Congress let Bush decide, it was Bush's baby. Why did only some members of Congress have the same information as the president, did that mean the Congress and the president did not have the same information on Iraq? So, Congress passed a war resolution and some did not have all the information.

the leadership in the House and Senate....the heads of the relevant committees.....all had the same info.........

On Sept. 18, 2002, CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers. Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam’s inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again.

Nor was the intelligence included in the National Intelligence Estimate of October 2002, which stated categorically that Iraq possessed WMD. No one in Congress was aware of the secret intelligence that Saddam had no WMD as the House of Representatives and the Senate voted, a week after the submission of the NIE, on the Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq. The information, moreover, was not circulated within the CIAamong those agents involved in operations to prove whether Saddam had WMD.

Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction - Salon.com

 

[Kosh]

Actually there was nothing in Iraq that the Bush Administration claimed was there. The only thing they found were old stockpiles of dilapidated, unusable weapons dating from a time when Saddam was receiving support from President Reagan and President Bush (41).

Leading To War a film that chronicles the path to war in Iraq

Add to that Congress did not vote to invade Iraq, they gave that power and decision to Bush, as he (Bush) thought necessary. Secondly the Congress and the President did not have the same information on Iraq.

Bullshit
Congres knew they were authorizing war. that was the whole debate.
Some members of Congress had exactly the same info.

Actually there was nothing in Iraq that the Bush Administration claimed was there. The only thing they found were old stockpiles of dilapidated, unusable weapons dating from a time when Saddam was receiving support from President Reagan and President Bush (41).

Leading To War a film that chronicles the path to war in Iraq

Add to that Congress did not vote to invade Iraq, they gave that power and decision to Bush, as he (Bush) thought necessary. Secondly the Congress and the President did not have the same information on Iraq.

Bullshit
Congres knew they were authorizing war. that was the whole debate.
Some members of Congress had exactly the same info.

The Congress dumped the decision onto Bush. If Bush had decided not to invade Iraq we would not have invaded, if Bush did decide to invade we would invade. It was Bush's decision, and Congress let Bush decide, it was Bush's baby. Why did only some members of Congress have the same information as the president, did that mean the Congress and the president did not have the same information on Iraq? So, Congress passed a war resolution and some did not have all the information.

the leadership in the House and Senate....the heads of the relevant committees.....all had the same info.........

On Sept. 18, 2002, CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers. Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam’s inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again.

Nor was the intelligence included in the National Intelligence Estimate of October 2002, which stated categorically that Iraq possessed WMD. No one in Congress was aware of the secret intelligence that Saddam had no WMD as the House of Representatives and the Senate voted, a week after the submission of the NIE, on the Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq. The information, moreover, was not circulated within the CIAamong those agents involved in operations to prove whether Saddam had WMD.

Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction - Salon.com

Notice how the afr left immediately goes to a far left drone site for their "facts"..

 

[ClosedCaption]

The lies of the left....

....are too numerous to count.

And too numerous to link as well

 

[BlindBoo]

Add to that Congress did not vote to invade Iraq, they gave that power and decision to Bush, as he (Bush) thought necessary. Secondly the Congress and the President did not have the same information on Iraq.

Bullshit
Congres knew they were authorizing war. that was the whole debate.
Some members of Congress had exactly the same info.

Add to that Congress did not vote to invade Iraq, they gave that power and decision to Bush, as he (Bush) thought necessary. Secondly the Congress and the President did not have the same information on Iraq.

Bullshit
Congres knew they were authorizing war. that was the whole debate.
Some members of Congress had exactly the same info.

The Congress dumped the decision onto Bush. If Bush had decided not to invade Iraq we would not have invaded, if Bush did decide to invade we would invade. It was Bush's decision, and Congress let Bush decide, it was Bush's baby. Why did only some members of Congress have the same information as the president, did that mean the Congress and the president did not have the same information on Iraq? So, Congress passed a war resolution and some did not have all the information.

the leadership in the House and Senate....the heads of the relevant committees.....all had the same info.........

On Sept. 18, 2002, CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers. Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam’s inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again.

Nor was the intelligence included in the National Intelligence Estimate of October 2002, which stated categorically that Iraq possessed WMD. No one in Congress was aware of the secret intelligence that Saddam had no WMD as the House of Representatives and the Senate voted, a week after the submission of the NIE, on the Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq. The information, moreover, was not circulated within the CIAamong those agents involved in operations to prove whether Saddam had WMD.

Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction - Salon.com

Notice how the afr left immediately goes to a far left drone site for their "facts"..

Tyler Drumheller, who says he warned the head of the US intelligence agency before the 2003 invasion of Iraq that Curveball might be a liar, said the confession would be a final wake-up call for the hawks who continued to believe that there had been WMD but that the CIA had been "too stupid" to find them.

Curveball admissions vindicate suspicions of CIA s former Europe chief World news The Guardian

 

[Siete]

the RW's can't back up anything they say with facts, so they just call everyone a liar.

 

[Sonny Clark]

the RW's can't back up anything they say with facts, so they just call everyone a liar.

ya reckon .......... you mean it ain't so? ....... we got non-liars onboard? ............. wow man ....... thanks for the heads-up on this one ......

 

[PredFan]

The lies of the left....

....are too numerous to count.

And too numerous to link as well

Good point. Thanks.

 

[The Rabbi]

They were useable, just not usable as their original intent.

They could be re-purposed. But how did a few lost, decaying caches of these chemical warheads, in a country that had been bombed back to the stone age, pose a threat to any one but the unlucky bastard who might happen to find them?

Muslim Terrorists would have loved to get their hands on them and the poor people in Iraq would have loved to have sold it to them for money.
Nothing like mustard gas in the subways of Europe and New York City eh?

Saddam was a hard line dictator. He didn't allow Islamic Terrorist Groups to operate inside his country. Furthermore he never allowed the groups he funded in Palestine or Iran to have access to such weapons.

So in reality that threat came because of the invasion, or rather the failed occupation.

I am just at my wits end with the stupidiyt that oozes off this board every day. Stupidity and ignorance.
Saddam s Terror Training Camps The Weekly Standard

THE FORMER IRAQI REGIME OF Saddam Hussein trained thousands of radical Islamic terrorists from the region at camps in Iraq over the four years immediately preceding the U.S. invasion, according to documents and photographs recovered by the U.S. military in postwar Iraq. The existence and character of these documents has been confirmed to THE WEEKLY STANDARD by eleven U.S. government officials

Short trip?

Still singing the same tune as they were in 2001,

"First, like Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein hates the United States with a vengeance he expresses at every opportunity."

"Second, Saddam Hussein has an array of chemical and biological weapons and has been willing to absorb the pain of a decade-long embargo rather than allow international inspectors to uncover the full magnitude of his program."

"Third, we know that Saddam Hussein has engaged directly in acts of terror and given sanctuary and other support to terrorists. In 1993 he planned the assassination of George H. W. Bush during the former president's visit to Kuwait. He operates a terrorist training facility at Salman Pak complete with a passenger aircraft cabin for training in hijacking."

The U.S. Must Strike at Saddam Hussein - NYTimes.com

Your admission of error is commendable.

 

[The Rabbi]

Just to point out there were WMDs in Iraq, just not to the scale that we were led to believe with George Tenet's "slam dunk case".

Liberalism is based on a lie. The lie that it's even possible to have a classless society where everyone works as hard as they can for a collective.

That wouldn't be a human society, that would be an ant colony.

The marxist dogma that the left is founded on is a utopian pipe dream, an utter fantasy. When you consider the hellish nightmares that marxist regimes have unleashed on people a rational person would avoid those philosophies like the plague. Bed wetting liberals have to be deliberately ignorant in order to ignore that history, or the sort of criminally insane authoritarian sociopath that desires a repeat of that history as long as they're in a good political position.

Actually there was nothing in Iraq that the Bush Administration claimed was there. The only thing they found were old stockpiles of dilapidated, unusable weapons dating from a time when Saddam was receiving support from President Reagan and President Bush (41).

Leading To War a film that chronicles the path to war in Iraq

Add to that Congress did not vote to invade Iraq, they gave that power and decision to Bush, as he (Bush) thought necessary. Secondly the Congress and the President did not have the same information on Iraq.

Bullshit
Congres knew they were authorizing war. that was the whole debate.
Some members of Congress had exactly the same info.

Just to point out there were WMDs in Iraq, just not to the scale that we were led to believe with George Tenet's "slam dunk case".

Liberalism is based on a lie. The lie that it's even possible to have a classless society where everyone works as hard as they can for a collective.

That wouldn't be a human society, that would be an ant colony.

The marxist dogma that the left is founded on is a utopian pipe dream, an utter fantasy. When you consider the hellish nightmares that marxist regimes have unleashed on people a rational person would avoid those philosophies like the plague. Bed wetting liberals have to be deliberately ignorant in order to ignore that history, or the sort of criminally insane authoritarian sociopath that desires a repeat of that history as long as they're in a good political position.

Actually there was nothing in Iraq that the Bush Administration claimed was there. The only thing they found were old stockpiles of dilapidated, unusable weapons dating from a time when Saddam was receiving support from President Reagan and President Bush (41).

Leading To War a film that chronicles the path to war in Iraq

Add to that Congress did not vote to invade Iraq, they gave that power and decision to Bush, as he (Bush) thought necessary. Secondly the Congress and the President did not have the same information on Iraq.

Bullshit
Congres knew they were authorizing war. that was the whole debate.
Some members of Congress had exactly the same info.

The Congress dumped the decision onto Bush. If Bush had decided not to invade Iraq we would not have invaded, if Bush did decide to invade we would invade. It was Bush's decision, and Congress let Bush decide, it was Bush's baby. Why did only some members of Congress have the same information as the president, did that mean the Congress and the president did not have the same information on Iraq? So, Congress passed a war resolution and some did not have all the information.

Um, wrong. Stunningly wrong.
Bush asked Congress for authorization. Congress did not "dump the decision" on Bush. Everyone in Congress knew they were voting for war with Iraq.
Members of the different intelligence committees would have the same intelligence as the administration. Non members would also have intelligence but not to the same level. You are positing the outcome of the vote would have been different had they all known the same thing. An impossible to prove proposition.

 

[The Rabbi]

Muslim Terrorists would have loved to get their hands on them and the poor people in Iraq would have loved to have sold it to them for money.
Nothing like mustard gas in the subways of Europe and New York City eh?

Saddam was a hard line dictator. He didn't allow Islamic Terrorist Groups to operate inside his country. Furthermore he never allowed the groups he funded in Palestine or Iran to have access to such weapons.

So in reality that threat came because of the invasion, or rather the failed occupation.

I am just at my wits end with the stupidiyt that oozes off this board every day. Stupidity and ignorance.
Saddam s Terror Training Camps The Weekly Standard

THE FORMER IRAQI REGIME OF Saddam Hussein trained thousands of radical Islamic terrorists from the region at camps in Iraq over the four years immediately preceding the U.S. invasion, according to documents and photographs recovered by the U.S. military in postwar Iraq. The existence and character of these documents has been confirmed to THE WEEKLY STANDARD by eleven U.S. government officials

Short trip?

Still singing the same tune as they were in 2001,

"First, like Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein hates the United States with a vengeance he expresses at every opportunity."

"Second, Saddam Hussein has an array of chemical and biological weapons and has been willing to absorb the pain of a decade-long embargo rather than allow international inspectors to uncover the full magnitude of his program."

"Third, we know that Saddam Hussein has engaged directly in acts of terror and given sanctuary and other support to terrorists. In 1993 he planned the assassination of George H. W. Bush during the former president's visit to Kuwait. He operates a terrorist training facility at Salman Pak complete with a passenger aircraft cabin for training in hijacking."

The U.S. Must Strike at Saddam Hussein - NYTimes.com

You forgot these gems:

“One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them.
That is our bottom line.”
President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

“Iraq is a long way from USA but, what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face.”
Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

“He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.”
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

“We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S.Constitution and Laws, to take necessary actions, (including, if appropriate,
air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq’s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction
programs.”
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998


“Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.”
Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

Why? As you well know many Democrats are complicit in our interventionist policies. These statements were them supporting the air strikes President Clinton authorized.

On the other side at the time, Saddam was accusing the US of using the inspection teams with US personal in them as a means of spying on Iraq's military assets. So of course we bombed them.

Maybe Cheney blackmailed Congress or bribed them with Halliburton money. Yeah, that's the ticket.

 

[The Rabbi]

Actually there was nothing in Iraq that the Bush Administration claimed was there. The only thing they found were old stockpiles of dilapidated, unusable weapons dating from a time when Saddam was receiving support from President Reagan and President Bush (41).

Leading To War a film that chronicles the path to war in Iraq

Add to that Congress did not vote to invade Iraq, they gave that power and decision to Bush, as he (Bush) thought necessary. Secondly the Congress and the President did not have the same information on Iraq.

Bullshit
Congres knew they were authorizing war. that was the whole debate.
Some members of Congress had exactly the same info.

Actually there was nothing in Iraq that the Bush Administration claimed was there. The only thing they found were old stockpiles of dilapidated, unusable weapons dating from a time when Saddam was receiving support from President Reagan and President Bush (41).

Leading To War a film that chronicles the path to war in Iraq

Add to that Congress did not vote to invade Iraq, they gave that power and decision to Bush, as he (Bush) thought necessary. Secondly the Congress and the President did not have the same information on Iraq.

Bullshit
Congres knew they were authorizing war. that was the whole debate.
Some members of Congress had exactly the same info.

The Congress dumped the decision onto Bush. If Bush had decided not to invade Iraq we would not have invaded, if Bush did decide to invade we would invade. It was Bush's decision, and Congress let Bush decide, it was Bush's baby. Why did only some members of Congress have the same information as the president, did that mean the Congress and the president did not have the same information on Iraq? So, Congress passed a war resolution and some did not have all the information.

the leadership in the House and Senate....the heads of the relevant committees.....all had the same info.........

On Sept. 18, 2002, CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers. Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam’s inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again.

Nor was the intelligence included in the National Intelligence Estimate of October 2002, which stated categorically that Iraq possessed WMD. No one in Congress was aware of the secret intelligence that Saddam had no WMD as the House of Representatives and the Senate voted, a week after the submission of the NIE, on the Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq. The information, moreover, was not circulated within the CIAamong those agents involved in operations to prove whether Saddam had WMD.

Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction - Salon.com

Yeah salon.com is a fail. It leaves out all the intelligence we had that did suggest Saddam had WMD. In the wake of 9/11 a president with intelligence that a hostile nation had WMD who did nothing would be criminally negligent.

 

[The Rabbi]

the RW's can't back up anything they say with facts, so they just call everyone a liar.

Pages of posts with sources and that's all you can say. Pathetic.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Actually there was nothing in Iraq that the Bush Administration claimed was there. The only thing they found were old stockpiles of dilapidated, unusable weapons dating from a time when Saddam was receiving support from President Reagan and President Bush (41).

Leading To War a film that chronicles the path to war in Iraq

Add to that Congress did not vote to invade Iraq, they gave that power and decision to Bush, as he (Bush) thought necessary. Secondly the Congress and the President did not have the same information on Iraq.

Bullshit
Congres knew they were authorizing war. that was the whole debate.
Some members of Congress had exactly the same info.

Actually there was nothing in Iraq that the Bush Administration claimed was there. The only thing they found were old stockpiles of dilapidated, unusable weapons dating from a time when Saddam was receiving support from President Reagan and President Bush (41).

Leading To War a film that chronicles the path to war in Iraq

Add to that Congress did not vote to invade Iraq, they gave that power and decision to Bush, as he (Bush) thought necessary. Secondly the Congress and the President did not have the same information on Iraq.

Bullshit
Congres knew they were authorizing war. that was the whole debate.
Some members of Congress had exactly the same info.

The Congress dumped the decision onto Bush. If Bush had decided not to invade Iraq we would not have invaded, if Bush did decide to invade we would invade. It was Bush's decision, and Congress let Bush decide, it was Bush's baby. Why did only some members of Congress have the same information as the president, did that mean the Congress and the president did not have the same information on Iraq? So, Congress passed a war resolution and some did not have all the information.

the leadership in the House and Senate....the heads of the relevant committees.....all had the same info.........

On Sept. 18, 2002, CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers. Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam’s inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again.

Nor was the intelligence included in the National Intelligence Estimate of October 2002, which stated categorically that Iraq possessed WMD. No one in Congress was aware of the secret intelligence that Saddam had no WMD as the House of Representatives and the Senate voted, a week after the submission of the NIE, on the Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq. The information, moreover, was not circulated within the CIAamong those agents involved in operations to prove whether Saddam had WMD.

Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction - Salon.com

Seems if this were true, you'd be able to cite it from an objective source like WSJ. Salon? I'm beginning to think this is like Searchlight claiming that somebody told him that Mitt Romney didn't pay his taxes.

 

[Clementine]

The money spent on "education" is often just shoring up teacher's pensions. Does nothing to improve education.

Parents are in the best position to help with their children's education simply by making sure they send them off the school disciplined and ready to learn, then make sure they do homework. If children don't respect teachers, they will be poor students. It all starts at home.

The lies about global warming will never stop because too many have everything invested (as in $$$$) in the scam. They simply can't afford to let this go and they won't. Others have their future invested, as in power. Alinsky and Cloward-Piven advised wannebe radicals to come up with a problem on a global scale in order to transfer power from the people to one government. It's nothing more than that.

The left continues to pit people against each other. The favorite is black vs white since fear gets people to the polls. They have spent decades brainwashing people into believing there is an enemy that only a powerful government can begin to fight.

Anyone paying attention would see how the liberals have flipflopped on so many issues. It's because they live and die by polls and will always tell people what they want to hear. Their words and actions are often opposite.

Yes, they could have passed a lot of legislation when they were in control. They didn't because they knew the results would be disastrous and didn't want to own it. They prefer to wait until they aren't the majority and claim they want to do this or that. Minimum wage increase, higher taxes on the wealthy and amnesty for illegal are just some things they could have done, but wanted to wait till they could blame Republicans for holding them back. They don't really care about those things or they would have acted when they had the chance. No Republicans supported Obamacare, yet they still got the blame when things were going badly. One said that it would have been better if the right had been involved. Duh! There is a reason why they gutted a military bill after it was passed by the House and replaced it with Obamacare. As a revenue-raising bill, it had to originate in the House. Even though Obamacare did not originate in or pass a House vote, substituting their bill for one that did pass was a dishonest move and never should have held up. That is why they lied and said it wasn't a tax. Otherwise, it would be unconstitutional. Of course, in court it had to be a tax for the court to uphold it. This is the best example of liberals lying. You have to believe two opposite things for them to say Obamacare is legal.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Add to that Congress did not vote to invade Iraq, they gave that power and decision to Bush, as he (Bush) thought necessary. Secondly the Congress and the President did not have the same information on Iraq.

Bullshit
Congres knew they were authorizing war. that was the whole debate.
Some members of Congress had exactly the same info.

Add to that Congress did not vote to invade Iraq, they gave that power and decision to Bush, as he (Bush) thought necessary. Secondly the Congress and the President did not have the same information on Iraq.

Bullshit
Congres knew they were authorizing war. that was the whole debate.
Some members of Congress had exactly the same info.

The Congress dumped the decision onto Bush. If Bush had decided not to invade Iraq we would not have invaded, if Bush did decide to invade we would invade. It was Bush's decision, and Congress let Bush decide, it was Bush's baby. Why did only some members of Congress have the same information as the president, did that mean the Congress and the president did not have the same information on Iraq? So, Congress passed a war resolution and some did not have all the information.

the leadership in the House and Senate....the heads of the relevant committees.....all had the same info.........

On Sept. 18, 2002, CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers. Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam’s inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again.

Nor was the intelligence included in the National Intelligence Estimate of October 2002, which stated categorically that Iraq possessed WMD. No one in Congress was aware of the secret intelligence that Saddam had no WMD as the House of Representatives and the Senate voted, a week after the submission of the NIE, on the Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq. The information, moreover, was not circulated within the CIAamong those agents involved in operations to prove whether Saddam had WMD.

Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction - Salon.com

Yeah salon.com is a fail. It leaves out all the intelligence we had that did suggest Saddam had WMD. In the wake of 9/11 a president with intelligence that a hostile nation had WMD who did nothing would be criminally negligent.

I guess he could have cited Rolling Stones. They're probably still a credible source on the Left.

 

[Pete7469]

I guess he could have cited Rolling Stones. They're probably still a credible source on the Left.

Still more credible than Salon, but MAD magazine is still more credible than RS.

 

[Moonglow]

Saddam admitted there was no WMD, that he was bluffing...

 

[Moonglow]

Bullshit
Congres knew they were authorizing war. that was the whole debate.
Some members of Congress had exactly the same info.

Bullshit
Congres knew they were authorizing war. that was the whole debate.
Some members of Congress had exactly the same info.

The Congress dumped the decision onto Bush. If Bush had decided not to invade Iraq we would not have invaded, if Bush did decide to invade we would invade. It was Bush's decision, and Congress let Bush decide, it was Bush's baby. Why did only some members of Congress have the same information as the president, did that mean the Congress and the president did not have the same information on Iraq? So, Congress passed a war resolution and some did not have all the information.

the leadership in the House and Senate....the heads of the relevant committees.....all had the same info.........

On Sept. 18, 2002, CIA director George Tenet briefed President Bush in the Oval Office on top-secret intelligence that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, according to two former senior CIA officers. Bush dismissed as worthless this information from the Iraqi foreign minister, a member of Saddam’s inner circle, although it turned out to be accurate in every detail. Tenet never brought it up again.

Nor was the intelligence included in the National Intelligence Estimate of October 2002, which stated categorically that Iraq possessed WMD. No one in Congress was aware of the secret intelligence that Saddam had no WMD as the House of Representatives and the Senate voted, a week after the submission of the NIE, on the Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq. The information, moreover, was not circulated within the CIAamong those agents involved in operations to prove whether Saddam had WMD.

Bush knew Saddam had no weapons of mass destruction - Salon.com

Yeah salon.com is a fail. It leaves out all the intelligence we had that did suggest Saddam had WMD. In the wake of 9/11 a president with intelligence that a hostile nation had WMD who did nothing would be criminally negligent.

I guess he could have cited Rolling Stones. They're probably still a credible source on the Left.

Only for music....I prefer High Times...

 

[Kosh]

Saddam admitted there was no WMD, that he was bluffing...

The far left are a WMD, will they finally turn themselves in?