The lie that most murders are husband and boyfriends killing spouses and girlfriends, just another lie from the anti-gunners..

[2aguy]

One particular anti-gun extremist tries to lie about gun ownership implying that most gun murder is by people you know......implying, and often just stating, that the killer is a husband, boyfriend and the victim is a girlfriend or wife...

So....we have to ban 600 million guns....

Gun murder in 2019........ 10,258....the majority of the victims are criminals murdered by other criminals...

So how do they lie about "knowing," your killer?

Read more: Update on the Misleading Murderer You Know Lie, Latest Data
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The most accurate crime statistics involve homicides, particularly murders. The most easily solved homicides are murders of passion between intimates. The hardest homicides to solve are those where there is no connection between the murderer and the victim.

The largest category of victims in the FBI reports of victim relationships to their murderer is unknown. In 2019, those victims are 49% of the total. It is a huge number. Some of this is because FBI Uniform Crime Reports (UCR) are often filed before an investigation is complete. As murders of passion among intimates are the easiest to solve, this means a much higher percentage of strangers and acquaintances fall into the unknown category when the UCR report is filled out.

The clearance rate for murder in 2019 was 59%. This means 41% were not solved. About 84% of the murderers who are unknown by the time of the UCR report remain unknown. It is likely most of the 16% solved are not intimate partner murders. Those that are, are unlikely to have been living with their victim.

The clearance rate for murder in 2020 dropped to 54.4%.

So-Called Known Murderers​

The next largest category of murderers is acquaintances. It is 20%. These are included in people you “know”.

The slightest connection to you counts as you “knowing” them. The gang-banger who was in your remedial English class in community college, the drug dealer you filed a report about, the laborer who cleaned up your neighbor’s yard, the person who involved you in a fender-bender, the high school classmate who was always in trouble, are all counted as an acquaintance. So are addicts’ suppliers, criminals’ associates, and members of a gang.

The next largest category is members of the immediate family. They are 11%. This is who most people place in the category as “known”. This includes estranged and ex-family, such as ex-wives and ex-husband.

Then come strangers, at 10%. These are the hardest murderers to catch.

• Boyfriend/girlfriend is at 5%. This includes ex-boyfriend/girlfriends.
• Other family is 2%.
• Friends are at 2%.
• Neighbors are 1%

Employers/employees are just a trace, at .16%, too small to show up on the chart.

Acquaintances Aren’t Family​

To create the misleading statistic that most murderers are “known” to their victim, those who want you to believe self-defense is futile, include acquaintance with family, friends, and neighbors.

Then to inflate the “known” numbers, they assume the murderers who are unknown have the same percentage of immediate family and relationships as those where the relationship is known. It is a bad assumption.

Applying the misleading math used by Gun Control Advocates to the 2019 figures creates that false figure that 80% of murderers are “known” to their victims.

A more realistic appraisal is unknown, stranger, and acquaintance categories make up 79% of murderers. Of the remaining 21%, a large number are ex-spouses, ex-boyfriend/girlfriends, and estranged family and friends.

The numbers of exes and estranged are not reported. A great many domestic homicides occur between ex-spouses, ex-boyfriends/girlfriends, and estranged others.

It is likely the number of people who murder someone living with them, when determined, will be less than 10% of the total.

More and more people are effectively defending themselves against people they know who have become deadly enemies.

Update on the Misleading Murderer You Know Lie, Latest Data

Applying the misleading math used by Gun Control Advocates to the 2019 figures creates that false figure that 80% of murderers are "known" to their victims.

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[Otis Mayfield]

What happens when you remove gang related crimes?

 

[2aguy]

What happens when you remove gang related crimes?

Then you have criminals who sell drugs and other criminal types....

The vast majority of all gun murder is by criminals with long histories of crime and violence shooting each other over criminal activity.......I would list it, but babies object to my lists......

 

[2aguy]

What happens when you remove gang related crimes?

The Criminology of Firearms
In 2004, the National Academy of Sciences reviewed 253 journal articles, 99 books, 43 government publications and some empirical research of its own about guns. The Academy could not identify any gun restriction that had reduced violent crime, suicide or gun accidents.

Why don't gun bans work? Because they rely on voluntary compliance by gun-using criminals. Prohibitionists never see this absurdity because they deceive themselves into thinking that, as Katherine Christoffel has said: "[M]ost shootings are not committed by felons or mentally ill people, but are acts of passion that are committed using a handgun that is owned for home protection."

Christoffel, et al., are utterly wrong. The whole corpus of criminological research dating back to the 1890'sshows murderers "almost uniformly have a long history of involvement in criminal behavior," and that "[v]irtually all" murderers and other gun criminals have prior felony records — generally long ones.

While only 15 percent of Americans have criminal records, roughly 90 percent of adult murderers have prior adult records — exclusive of their often extensive juvenile records — with crime careers of six or more adult years including four major felonies.

Gerald D. Robin, writing for the Academy of Criminal Justice Sciences,notes that, unlike ordinary gun owners, "the average murderer turns out to be no less hardened a criminal than the average robber or burglar."

 

[2aguy]

What happens when you remove gang related crimes?

Then this.....

The 1 % of the population accountable for 63 % of all violent crime convictions​

The 1 % of the population accountable for 63 % of all violent crime convictions
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http://www.haciendapublishing.com/medicalsentinel/public-health-and-gun-control-review-part-ii-gun-violence-and-constitutional-issues
Another favorite view of the gun control, public health establishment is the myth propounded by Dr. Mark Rosenberg, former head of the NCIPC of the CDC, who has written: "Most of the perpetrators of violence are not criminals by trade or profession. Indeed, in the area of domestic violence, most of the perpetrators are never accused of any crime. The victims and perpetrators are ourselves --- ordinary citizens, students, professionals, and even public health workers."(6)

That statement is contradicted by available data, government data. The fact is that the typical murderer has had a prior criminal history of at least six years with four felony arrests in his record before he finally commits murder.



(17) The FBI statistics reveal that 75 percent of all violent crimes for any locality are committed by six percent of hardened criminals and repeat offenders.(18)



Less than 2 percent of crimes committed with firearms are carried out by licensed (e.g., concealed carry permit holders) law-abiding citizens.(11)

Violent crimes continue to be a problem in the inner cities with gangs involved in the drug trade. Crimes in rural areas for both blacks and whites, despite the preponderance of guns in this setting, remain low.(11,19)



Gun availability does not cause crime. Prohibitionist government policies and gun control (rather than crime control) exacerbates the problem by making it more difficult for law-abiding citizens to defend themselves, their families, and their property. In fact, there was a modest increase in both homicide and suicide after prohibition and passage of the Gun Control Act of 1968.(20)

 

[2aguy]

What happens when you remove gang related crimes?

Then this....

Most murder victims in big cities have criminal record

A review of murder statistics across America shows that in many large cities, up to 90 percent of the victims have criminal records.
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The report concludes that “of the 2011 homicide victims, 77 percent (66) had a least one prior arrest and of the known 2011 homicide suspects 90 percent (74) had at least one prior arrest.”
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In early 2012, after pressure put on the police by murder victims’ families in New Orleans, the police department stopped revealing whether or not the murder victim had a prior record.
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Though data is no longer published in Baltimore, USA Today reported in 2007 that 91 percent of the then-205 murder victims in the city between Jan. 1 and Aug. 31, 2007, had criminal records.
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A WND review of the Philadelphia Police Department Murder and Shooting Analysis for 2011 shows a similar pattern to that of other large cities in America – a majority of the murder victims have prior records.

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In Philadelphia in 2011, of 324 murders, 81 percent (263) of the victims had at least one prior arrest; 62 percent (164) had been arrested for a violent crime prior to their murder.
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In Newark, N.J., long considered one of America’s most dangerous cities, 85 percent of the 165 murder victims between 2009 and 2010 had serious arrest histories.
Anthony Braga, a professor with the Rutgers-Newark School of Criminal Justice, told the Newark Star-Ledger that 85 percent of 165 murder victims in Newark between 2009 and 2010 had been arrested at least once before they were killed.
Those victims, he said, had, on average, 10 prior arrests on their criminal records.
A WND review of the Chicago Police Department Murder Analysis reports from 2003 to 2011 provides a statistical breakdown of the demographics of both the victims and offenders in the 4,265 murders in Chicago over that time period.


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[bodecea]

One particular anti-gun extremist tries to lie about gun ownership implying that most gun murder is by people you know......implying, and often just stating, that the killer is a husband, boyfriend and the victim is a girlfriend or wife...

So....we have to ban 600 million guns....

Gun murder in 2019........ 10,258....the majority of the victims are criminals murdered by other criminals...

So how do they lie about "knowing," your killer?

Read more: Update on the Misleading Murderer You Know Lie, Latest Data
Under Creative Commons License: Attribution
Follow us: @Ammoland on Twitter | Ammoland on Facebook

The most accurate crime statistics involve homicides, particularly murders. The most easily solved homicides are murders of passion between intimates. The hardest homicides to solve are those where there is no connection between the murderer and the victim.

The largest category of victims in the FBI reports of victim relationships to their murderer is unknown. In 2019, those victims are 49% of the total. It is a huge number. Some of this is because FBI Uniform Crime Reports (UCR) are often filed before an investigation is complete. As murders of passion among intimates are the easiest to solve, this means a much higher percentage of strangers and acquaintances fall into the unknown category when the UCR report is filled out.

The clearance rate for murder in 2019 was 59%. This means 41% were not solved. About 84% of the murderers who are unknown by the time of the UCR report remain unknown. It is likely most of the 16% solved are not intimate partner murders. Those that are, are unlikely to have been living with their victim.

The clearance rate for murder in 2020 dropped to 54.4%.

So-Called Known Murderers​

The next largest category of murderers is acquaintances. It is 20%. These are included in people you “know”.

The slightest connection to you counts as you “knowing” them. The gang-banger who was in your remedial English class in community college, the drug dealer you filed a report about, the laborer who cleaned up your neighbor’s yard, the person who involved you in a fender-bender, the high school classmate who was always in trouble, are all counted as an acquaintance. So are addicts’ suppliers, criminals’ associates, and members of a gang.

The next largest category is members of the immediate family. They are 11%. This is who most people place in the category as “known”. This includes estranged and ex-family, such as ex-wives and ex-husband.

• Boyfriend/girlfriend is at 5%. This includes ex-boyfriend/girlfriends.
• Other family is 2%.
• Friends are at 2%.
• Neighbors are 1%

Employers/employees are just a trace, at .16%, too small to show up on the chart.

Acquaintances Aren’t Family​

To create the misleading statistic that most murderers are “known” to their victim, those who want you to believe self-defense is futile, include acquaintance with family, friends, and neighbors.

Then to inflate the “known” numbers, they assume the murderers who are unknown have the same percentage of immediate family and relationships as those where the relationship is known. It is a bad assumption.

Applying the misleading math used by Gun Control Advocates to the 2019 figures creates that false figure that 80% of murderers are “known” to their victims.

A more realistic appraisal is unknown, stranger, and acquaintance categories make up 79% of murderers. Of the remaining 21%, a large number are ex-spouses, ex-boyfriend/girlfriends, and estranged family and friends.

The numbers of exes and estranged are not reported. A great many domestic homicides occur between ex-spouses, ex-boyfriends/girlfriends, and estranged others.

It is likely the number of people who murder someone living with them, when determined, will be less than 10% of the total.

More and more people are effectively defending themselves against people they know who have become deadly enemies.

Update on the Misleading Murderer You Know Lie, Latest Data

Applying the misleading math used by Gun Control Advocates to the 2019 figures creates that false figure that 80% of murderers are "known" to their victims.

www.ammoland.com

Number 1 cause of death of pregnant women is murder by hetero male SOs. Homicide is a top cause of maternal death in the United States.

 

[2aguy]

Number 1 cause of death of pregnant women is murder by hetero male SOs. Homicide is a top cause of maternal death in the United States.

Usually not a husband....a baby daddy

 

[bodecea]

Usually not a husband....a baby daddy

Husbands too.....just another reason that cops look to husbands, fathers first when a wife or daughter is killed or molested.

 

[2aguy]

Husbands too.....just another reason that cops look to husbands, fathers first when a wife or daughter is killed or molested.

One lovea and hates those we know the best.....

 

[Man of Ethics]

Of course men are guilty of 89% of all homicides.

Very many Liberals/Feminists use this data to incite hatred toward all men, even though 99.5% of men living in USA are not murderers.

Similarly many Racists, and some Mainstream Conservatives incite hatred against Minorities. Over 99.5% of African Americans and Native Americans are not killers.

 

[Man of Ethics]

Gun Homicide is a huge problem. Gun Suicide is a bigger problem. Here.

 

[2aguy]

Gun Homicide is a huge problem. Gun Suicide is a bigger problem. Here.

Gun self defense save more lives than gun homicide takes...in fact, they stop gun homicide from happening in the first place.......