The Liberal Rape Myth

[TemplarKormac]

Now excuse me. I'm done kicking your butt from one side of this thread to the other. I'm going to go grab a snack, log out and go watch some TV.

Later.

 

[Discombobulated]

Now excuse me. I'm done kicking your butt from one side of this thread to the other. I'm going to go grab a snack, log out and go watch some TV.

Later.

I'm sure that's a much more productive way of spending your time than denying the prevalence of unreported sexual assault. I have to wonder what kind of a shut in nerd is so isolated from the world around him.

 

[Discombobulated]

Facts: the enemy of conservative rhetoric.

I'd love to see his reliable sources that refute well known facts.

Does the Department of Justice count?

See, no serious intent on your part......just a lot of horse shit.

 

[Discombobulated]

Lets see what this woman has to say about rape.

50 Actual Facts About Rape Soraya Chemaly

Post 349 - posts link to an opinion piece from a leftist blogger on Huffington Post, whose citation of rape statistics include Think Progress, and internal citations within main website.

Post 350 - reposts link to the 2006 - 2010 NCVS study, cited though Huffington Post

Post 351 - Cites a link from a Rape treatment center which cites no rape statistics past the year 2000, goes as far back as 1992.

Post 353 - no links to relevant information - no assertion made - engages in genetic form of ad hominem, off topic trolling

Post 355 - no links to relevant information - unsubstantiated assertion - makes accusations of bias, engages in ad hominem

Your perception is skewed with obvious bias in favor of rapists.

And this is how you lost the argument. I am an avid speed reader. I went through each of the links you just posted, you know what I found? Your perception is biased in favor of politicizing and perpetuating a non existent rape culture within the college domain. Give it a rest.

Oh, and this link:

http://ojp.gov/newsroom/pressreleases/2012/ojppr080912.pdf

Covers ALL violent crimes in 2012, 3.4 million of which went unreported. So, how does this one prove your point? What portion of those violent crimes were rapes?

Didn't think so.

Post 357 - posts link to a 2012 study by the Center for Disease Control. Fails to realize that CDC is not a valid source of rape statistics, as they only prevent diseases, not instances of rape. Report simply recites studies done by the Department of Justice.

Post 358 - no links to relevant information - no assertion made - ignores posts form TemplarKormac containing relevant sources (I.E. The DOJ and BJS) and information.

Like many speed readers your comprehension is poor. My perception is biased? If your comprehension were a little better you might have realized that I never once referred to any college rape story of any kind, I certainly never tried to substantiate facts with rumors and opinions the way you guys always do.

 

[Discombobulated]

1. Best be sitting down when you read this: Liberals Lie!!!!

Yup.

They have to because they proceed from crisis to crisis., and their just aren't enough crises for 'em.
The Liberal/Progressive/Democrat crowd needs to pretend that there is some imminent disaster....or who needs 'em.
And the alleged-almost-gonna be- victims need them!!!


Two of their fav victim groups are women and black folks....and they may have overplayed their hand vis-a-vis earth-dwellers, now that the Global Warming scam is unraveling.

This thread will reveal how they lie, and use the lie to construct crises.....and keep same in mind when you hear about to the current claims of racism by police!


2. And what fuels their game is the fact that truth is not a requirement for 'em! We on the right are far more wedded to veracity because we're simply better human beings than Liberals are.

....well, perhaps we'd be a bit more careless with the truth, too, if we knew we'd have the cover of the main stream media....


3. Case in point....some imaginary "War On Women," coming from the party that was and is led by a rapist.
It'd be funny if it weren't so tragic.

4. Now, the "Liberal Rape Myth."

" Women and girls are the vast majority of victims:nearly 1 in 5 women – or nearly 22 million – have been raped in their lifetimes.*

Men and boys, however, are also at risk:1 in 71 men – or almost 1.6 million – have been sexually assaulted during their lives.*

Young people are especially at risk: The majority of sexual assault victims are young between the ages of 16 and 24. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports that 80% of female victims were sexually assaulted before they turned 25.*

[*Black, M.C., Basile, K.C., Breiding, M.J. Smith, S.G., Walters, M.L., Merrick, M.T., Chen, J., & Stevens, M.R. (2011)The National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey (NISVS): 2010 Summary Report.Atlanta, GA: National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.]

College students are particularly vulnerable, with 1 in 5 women being sexually assaulted while in college.***

[***Krebs, C.P., Lindquist, C.H., Warner, T.D., Fisher, B.S., & Martin, S. L. (2007). The Campus Sexual Assault (CSA) Study(221153). Washington, DC: National Institute of Justice, U.S. Department of Justice. [Hereafter cited as CSA (2007)].; Krebs, C.P., Lindquist, C. H., Warner, T.D., Fisher, B.S., & Martin, S. L. (2009) College Women’s Experiences with Physically Forced, Alcohol- or Other Drug-Enabled, and DrugFacilitated Sexual Assault Before and Since Entering College. Journal of American College Health, 57(6), 639-647.]


Victims may be further traumatized by social media– through which the details of an assault can “go viral.” While this is an un-researched issue, a number of high profile sexual assault cases have drawn attention to this relatively new and disturbing dynamic.**

[**The White House Council on Women and Girls (2014). Rape and sexual assault: A renewed call to action. Office of the Vice President.]
http://www.rwu.edu/campus-life/heal...ing-center/sexual-assault/rape-myths-and-fac]

I like how your link links to nothing.

 

[TemplarKormac]

If your comprehension were a little better you might have realized that I never once referred to any college rape story of any kind

Of course you didn't. When PC pressed you to answer a true or false question about this statement "College students are particularly vulnerable, with 1 in 5 women being sexually assaulted while in college", you dodged her multiple times, deflecting to your default argument. You spent more time dodging than answering forthrightly.

And do you do realize what kind of thread you're posting in? Or can you not read? College rape is covered in the main post.

I certainly never tried to substantiate facts with rumors and opinions the way you guys always do.

That is an outright lie. The 'facts' you tried to use were spun to suit your case. I read each and every one of your links. One of them had zero to do with your premise. But anywho, this was your behavior throughout the entire thread:

1) You accused both she and I of bias, while ignoring your own

2) Stated that we favored rapists

3) Accused us of trying to minimize the problem

4) Accused us of being dishonest, even after we substantiated our arguments with vetted facts

5) Accused PC, a woman, of hating women...

6) Referred to gipper as a 'creature.'

8) Referred to PC as 'stupid, 'idiot,' 'trash,' '****,' and 'c**t'

9) Referred to the thread as 'dog shit'

So, your links mean nothing when you're ensconced within your own childishness. In fact, all of your credibility goes out the window when you engage in this garbage.

 

[TemplarKormac]

1. Best be sitting down when you read this: Liberals Lie!!!!

Yup.

They have to because they proceed from crisis to crisis., and their just aren't enough crises for 'em.
The Liberal/Progressive/Democrat crowd needs to pretend that there is some imminent disaster....or who needs 'em.
And the alleged-almost-gonna be- victims need them!!!


Two of their fav victim groups are women and black folks....and they may have overplayed their hand vis-a-vis earth-dwellers, now that the Global Warming scam is unraveling.

This thread will reveal how they lie, and use the lie to construct crises.....and keep same in mind when you hear about to the current claims of racism by police!


2. And what fuels their game is the fact that truth is not a requirement for 'em! We on the right are far more wedded to veracity because we're simply better human beings than Liberals are.

....well, perhaps we'd be a bit more careless with the truth, too, if we knew we'd have the cover of the main stream media....


3. Case in point....some imaginary "War On Women," coming from the party that was and is led by a rapist.
It'd be funny if it weren't so tragic.

4. Now, the "Liberal Rape Myth."

" Women and girls are the vast majority of victims:nearly 1 in 5 women – or nearly 22 million – have been raped in their lifetimes.*

Men and boys, however, are also at risk:1 in 71 men – or almost 1.6 million – have been sexually assaulted during their lives.*

Young people are especially at risk: The majority of sexual assault victims are young between the ages of 16 and 24. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) reports that 80% of female victims were sexually assaulted before they turned 25.*

[*Black, M.C., Basile, K.C., Breiding, M.J. Smith, S.G., Walters, M.L., Merrick, M.T., Chen, J., & Stevens, M.R. (2011)The National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey (NISVS): 2010 Summary Report.Atlanta, GA: National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.]

College students are particularly vulnerable, with 1 in 5 women being sexually assaulted while in college.***

[***Krebs, C.P., Lindquist, C.H., Warner, T.D., Fisher, B.S., & Martin, S. L. (2007). The Campus Sexual Assault (CSA) Study(221153). Washington, DC: National Institute of Justice, U.S. Department of Justice. [Hereafter cited as CSA (2007)].; Krebs, C.P., Lindquist, C. H., Warner, T.D., Fisher, B.S., & Martin, S. L. (2009) College Women’s Experiences with Physically Forced, Alcohol- or Other Drug-Enabled, and DrugFacilitated Sexual Assault Before and Since Entering College. Journal of American College Health, 57(6), 639-647.]


Victims may be further traumatized by social media– through which the details of an assault can “go viral.” While this is an un-researched issue, a number of high profile sexual assault cases have drawn attention to this relatively new and disturbing dynamic.**

[**The White House Council on Women and Girls (2014). Rape and sexual assault: A renewed call to action. Office of the Vice President.]
http://www.rwu.edu/campus-life/heal...ing-center/sexual-assault/rape-myths-and-fac]

I like how your link links to nothing.

I like how you never bothered to google the link:

Myths and Facts Roger Williams University

 

[Ame®icano]

So...you couldn't do the math that proves you are a moron....and could only come up with this post to obfuscate?

No surprise here.

I can't decide if you are more dishonest than you are stupid......it's a close run.

Liar.

Why do you hate women so much?

She is a woman you idiot. I think that make her more qualified to speak on the subject than you are.

Anyone who seeks to minimize rape isn't qualified to speak on anything.

Calling out liars what they are, liars isn't minimizing. Presenting actual data isn't minimizing neither.

 

[Ame®icano]

Hey PC, all you think about liberals is confirmed through this thread. They will look you in the eye and lie, they will say you said something you didn't, they will flip the words around, etc.

When you say liberal rape is myth, we know, even they know what you meant but they will skew it to make it look like you said that all rape is a myth. You can't fight them with facts, cause facts are what they say they are. They'll look on every word you write, flip it and call you racist, bigot, and names... because they're like that, you can't change it.

Take for instance latest Hollywood email leaks/hacks. Imagine the outcry and scrutiny if anyone from the right wrote that way. But they can be racists as much they want because they write checks to DNC.

The only thing that keeping liberals in power are racial politics and minorities are continuing to take a bait. Obama said that... we need to sit in the back and let them drive. So lets sit in the back and watch the angst among libs when the truth about them is revealed in the light. Let them drive, for now, or two more years. They'll do so much damage that it will be very long time before they get in the driver's seat again.

Read the OP again dummy.

Did you call someone 'dummy,' dummy????


The latest data: zero point six one percent

Begs the question: What kind of trash would seek to minimize rape?

What makes you think that rape is minimized?

Or should I ask first, do you think that 1 in 5 women raped in college, or 20% is accurate?

It never says that one in five is raped in college

!!!!

Not 20 percent.

You have no data on the incidence of unreported rape.

If you have that data, please present it.

Edit: Posted this before I got to you posts. TK already replied to you. You're not posting rape data, but opinions.

 

[Meathead]

The amount of unreported rapes is, by definition, unknowable. People can create whatever sum fit their agenda. Those who want to make an issue of it are free to exaggerate.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Now, for all of the dolts who have breathlessly accepted the LIBERAL RAPE MYTH, that millions of college students have been sexually assaulted....the "one in five" nonsense....


"A new report on sexual assault released today by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) officially puts to bed the bogus statistic that one in five women on college campuses are victims of sexual assault. In fact, non-students are 25 percent more likely to be victims of sexual assault than students, according to the data. And the real number of assault victims is several orders of magnitude lower than one-in-five.

The full study, which was published by the Bureau of Justice Statistics, a division within DOJ, found that rather than one in five female college students becoming victims of sexual assault, the actual rate is 6.1 per 1,000 students, or 0.61 percent (instead of 1-in-5, the real number is 0.03-in-5). For non-students, the rate of sexual assault is 7.6 per 1,000 people."
New DOJ Data On Sexual Assaults Students Are Less Likely To Be Raped



Wow!

Shocker! I win again!!!



I love beating the senseless, senseless.



Toro

Apples and oranges

Different thresholds of Sexual assault and different survey objectives. One criminal and the other social

I love the way you simply amble away from abysmal defeat.

You must be so used to losing.

 

[PoliticalChic]

So...you couldn't do the math that proves you are a moron....and could only come up with this post to obfuscate?

No surprise here.

I can't decide if you are more dishonest than you are stupid......it's a close run.

Liar.

Why do you hate women so much?

She is a woman you idiot. I think that make her more qualified to speak on the subject than you are.

Anyone who seeks to minimize rape isn't qualified to speak on anything.

No one has done so.

You're lying.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Now, for all of the dolts who have breathlessly accepted the LIBERAL RAPE MYTH, that millions of college students have been sexually assaulted....the "one in five" nonsense....


"A new report on sexual assault released today by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) officially puts to bed the bogus statistic that one in five women on college campuses are victims of sexual assault. In fact, non-students are 25 percent more likely to be victims of sexual assault than students, according to the data. And the real number of assault victims is several orders of magnitude lower than one-in-five.

The full study, which was published by the Bureau of Justice Statistics, a division within DOJ, found that rather than one in five female college students becoming victims of sexual assault, the actual rate is 6.1 per 1,000 students, or 0.61 percent (instead of 1-in-5, the real number is 0.03-in-5). For non-students, the rate of sexual assault is 7.6 per 1,000 people."
New DOJ Data On Sexual Assaults Students Are Less Likely To Be Raped



Wow!

Shocker! I win again!!!



I love beating the senseless, senseless.



Toro

And yet you deny the fact that most rapes are never reported.

Another lie.

Your default is to lie when proven wrong.....you must be a Liberal.


This has always been the central question, the Liberal Rape Myth:

College students are particularly vulnerable, with 1 in 5 women being sexually assaulted while in college.

True or false?


Feel free to lie again.

 

[rightwinger]

Now, for all of the dolts who have breathlessly accepted the LIBERAL RAPE MYTH, that millions of college students have been sexually assaulted....the "one in five" nonsense....


"A new report on sexual assault released today by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) officially puts to bed the bogus statistic that one in five women on college campuses are victims of sexual assault. In fact, non-students are 25 percent more likely to be victims of sexual assault than students, according to the data. And the real number of assault victims is several orders of magnitude lower than one-in-five.

The full study, which was published by the Bureau of Justice Statistics, a division within DOJ, found that rather than one in five female college students becoming victims of sexual assault, the actual rate is 6.1 per 1,000 students, or 0.61 percent (instead of 1-in-5, the real number is 0.03-in-5). For non-students, the rate of sexual assault is 7.6 per 1,000 people."
New DOJ Data On Sexual Assaults Students Are Less Likely To Be Raped



Wow!

Shocker! I win again!!!



I love beating the senseless, senseless.



Toro

Apples and oranges

Different thresholds of Sexual assault and different survey objectives. One criminal and the other social

I love the way you simply amble away from abysmal defeat.

You must be so used to losing.

From your own link...

Survey context and scope.
The NCVS is presented as a
survey about crime, while the NISVS and CSA are presented

as surveys about public health. The NISVS and CSA collect

data on incidents of unwanted sexual contact that may not

rise to a level of criminal behavior, and respondents may

not report incidents to the NCVS that they do not consider

to be criminal.

Apples and Oranges

 

[NYcarbineer]

The study did not find that 20% of college women had been raped.

PC has invented a myth and assigned it to liberalism. lol, classic rightwing propaganda.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hey PC, all you think about liberals is confirmed through this thread. They will look you in the eye and lie, they will say you said something you didn't, they will flip the words around, etc.

When you say liberal rape is myth, we know, even they know what you meant but they will skew it to make it look like you said that all rape is a myth. You can't fight them with facts, cause facts are what they say they are. They'll look on every word you write, flip it and call you racist, bigot, and names... because they're like that, you can't change it.

Take for instance latest Hollywood email leaks/hacks. Imagine the outcry and scrutiny if anyone from the right wrote that way. But they can be racists as much they want because they write checks to DNC.

The only thing that keeping liberals in power are racial politics and minorities are continuing to take a bait. Obama said that... we need to sit in the back and let them drive. So lets sit in the back and watch the angst among libs when the truth about them is revealed in the light. Let them drive, for now, or two more years. They'll do so much damage that it will be very long time before they get in the driver's seat again.

Read the OP again dummy.

Did you call someone 'dummy,' dummy????


The latest data: zero point six one percent

Begs the question: What kind of trash would seek to minimize rape?

What makes you think that rape is minimized?

Or should I ask first, do you think that 1 in 5 women raped in college, or 20% is accurate?

It never says that one in five is raped in college

!!!!

Not 20 percent.

You have no data on the incidence of unreported rape.

I provided it in the link, #319....

The report claims 80%.

If so, the percentage would leap all the way up to 3.05%

The Liberal Rape Myth claims 20%.



AND.....the numbers have continued to drop.....not rise....over the years.



You have suffered a total, abysmal, unmitigated defeat.


I'm sure it isn't the first....nor will it be the last.

 

[PoliticalChic]

And here's a question for you dummy: How do you cite precise statistics on unreported crimes?

"How do you cite precise statistics on unreported crimes?"

This is relevant:

"Who doesn't report a brutal crime? I had my right arm sawed off by an attacker several years ago, but I was unaware of the resources available to me, so I never pressed charges. I didn't even admit it to myself until several years later."
Ann Coulter - December 10 2014 - THE COLLEGE RAPE CLUB

 

[PoliticalChic]

The study did not find that 20% of college women had been raped.

PC has invented a myth and assigned it to liberalism. lol, classic rightwing propaganda.

Liar.

Liberalism is exactly the provenance of the myth.

As is true of so many Liberal myths, it is designed to paint citizens as victims who need big totalitarian government to save them from

rape

inequality

global warming

killer bees

heterosexual aids

etc., etc.



And, my contention must be true if a liar like you denies it.

 

[NYcarbineer]

The study did not find that 20% of college women had been raped.

PC has invented a myth and assigned it to liberalism. lol, classic rightwing propaganda.

Liar.

Liberalism is exactly the provenance of the myth.

As is true of so many Liberal myths, it is designed to paint citizens as victims who need big totalitarian government to save them from

rape

inequality

global warming

killer bees

heterosexual aids

etc., etc.



And, my contention must be true if a liar like you denies it.

The study did not say that 1 in 5 had been raped. That is your lie.

 

[gipper]

Another liberal lie exposed and completely refuted...but some liberals chose to believe the lie anyway.


New DOJ Data On Sexual Assaults: College Students Are Actually Less Likely To Be Victimized

DECEMBER 11, 2014 By The Federalist Staff
A new report on sexual assault released today by the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) officially puts to bed the bogus statistic that one in five women on college campuses are victims of sexual assault. In fact, non-students are 25 percent more likely to be victims of sexual assault than students, according to the data. And the real number of assault victims is several orders of magnitude lower than one-in-five.

The full study, which was published by the Bureau of Justice Statistics, a division within DOJ, found that rather than one in five female college students becoming victims of sexual assault, the actual rate is 6.1 per 1,000 students, or 0.61 percent (instead of 1-in-5, the real number is 0.03-in-5). For non-students, the rate of sexual assault is 7.6 per 1,000 people.