The Left - “The death penalty is wrong”

[Crepitus]

Sht happens, but percentage is pretty small.

It's too permanent for any margin of error.

 

[White 6]

Nothing wrong with the Death Penalty it's the fucking cases that come back 20-30 yrs later and the person is proven innocent, that is the problem.

Systemic embarrassing wins, but wins for the good guy, no matter the case.

 

[Crepitus]

Got to admit, they don't set the bar at conservative self-discipline.

It's not even a partisan thing or a national thing. It's people. All over the world.

People don't think through the consequences of their actions.

That's why the bank robberies still happen and why people die taking selfies and other things.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Its supposed to be a deterrent. It isn’t.

Gee, if only that were true. People sit on death row for decades.

Its supposed to be a deterrent. It isn’t.

A death penalty that is never used isn't a deterrent.
Cut appeals down to 6 months and use it a few dozen times and see if crime rates drop.

Gee, if only that were true. People sit on death row for decades.

That increases the cost for sure.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Our legal protections are in place for a purpose.

Right. A purpose that shouldn't take decades.

 

[candycorn]

It is a deterrent to those that truly do not want to be put to death, themselves. And, the guy that is put to death, is definitely deterred from committing the crime, again. 1/3 to 1/5 of people that simply go to prison, get out and comitt further crimes, sending them back to prison, for 3 hots and a cot, free food, TV and paid security. Not so, of those, whose repeated crimes, see them executed, ending their inhuman criminal activity, permanently.

Yet amazingly the State of Texas consistently leads the nation in executions by year.. If it were a deterent to murder, logic would dictate that folks in texas would stop killing people. But they don’t.

Again...through no prism in logic can one look through and find deterrence. One might as well say that suicide bombers are a deterrent to terrorism since the guy will never commit another act of terror.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Not really. Humans are really good at ignoring possible consequences for instant gratification.

If it led to near instant consequence, it tends to focus the mind.

 

[candycorn]

Its supposed to be a deterrent. It isn’t.

A death penalty that is never used isn't a deterrent.
Cut appeals down to 6 months and use it a few dozen times and see if crime rates drop.

Gee, if only that were true. People sit on death row for decades.

That increases the cost for sure.

Good idea, here is a better one:

While I'd prefer an amendment to ban the death penalty, that isn't likely to happen. Recognizing that, the death penalty should be swift, lethal, and a true deterrent. To that end...Mandate each state set up a court system to address only capital cases. No more decades on death row. Once a sentence is handed down, a 90 day clock starts. Set up an office in that court to be advocates for the people on death row to make sure we got the right man/woman. They essentially re-try the case. The court will subpoena everyone and anyone involved in the case from the standpoint of trying to find a reason to not put the guy to death. Basically a red team. If the State refuses to hand over evidence, testify in front of the court, etc... the sentence is commuted to life in prison; no parole.

375 inmtes on death row have been exonerated.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Good idea, here is a better one:

375 inmtes on death row have been exonerated.

375 over what period out of how many?

 

[toobfreak]

The death penalty is awesome when we don’t like the profession of the victim.

Does that include the million babies who were given the death penalty last year through abortion, because their slut mothers just didn't like their profession of wanting life?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Holy stretch of the imagination batman!

I (and most on the left) oppose the death penalty because it doesn’t work and is misapplied. How many murderous cops have been executed? Pretty much zero.

As for the guy who killed the CEO...a fragment of the left stupidly embraces this murderer.

It's more than a fragment.

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The death penalty is barbaric. It's cheaper to lock them up for the rest of their life than it is to execute them.

Only because of the lengthy appeals process.

A bullet in the head by firing squad is pretty damn cheap.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Only because of the lengthy appeals process.

A bullet in the head by firing squad is pretty damn cheap.

A rope can be re-used.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Most states have abandoned the death penalty
Only the Bible Belt uses it to honor Jesus
Most of the civilized world does not use it

And how is crime in the "civilized" world these days compared to places like China, Singapore, Saudi Arabia, that harshly punish criminals?

 

[candycorn]

375 over what period out of how many?

375 people who we were “sure” they committed the crime.

 

[HeyNorm]

When it comes to Trump or a CEO of a health care insurance company or the innocent unborn, the Left loves the death penalty

They just have a problem putting to death hardened murderers that will continue to kill.

SO WELL PUT!

 

[HeyNorm]

It's too permanent for any margin of error.

As is trans surgery

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

375 people who we were “sure” they committed the crime.

Right. Out of how many?

 

[rightwinger]

And how is crime in the "civilized" world these days compared to places like China, Singapore, Saudi Arabia, that harshly punish criminals?

How is crime in Texas that leads the country in executions?

 

[candycorn]

It's more than a fragment.

MSN

www.msn.com

ummm hummm...

an online survey of 1,000 people (listed as only “GEN Z”ers...who may or may not be “the left”)....revealed that less than a minority of respondents are idiots.

I think its bizarre that more than 1% find it acceptable--1% is way too many--that is 10 people in the survey...