The left has embraced fascism in its purest form

[P@triot]

The Democratic Socialist Party was the largest in Germany. Hitler used them to get his foot in the door. He hated Socialists and put them in Dachau.

He loved socialism and implemented socialist policies across the board. He put people in Dachau for the same reason Saddam Hussein executed hundreds of people from his own Ba'ath Party - dictators kill anyone who is a threat to power.

I've explained this to you and embarrassed you in the process in the past. You keep clinging to the lie because you have nothing else

 

[BWK]

You literally cannot name a single thing Ron DeSantis has done that is even in the ballpark of fascism. Unlike the left, everything he has done is fully within his power/duties as governor of Florida. Absolutely no gray area at all.

That's a concept the fascist left just cannot grasp.

Banning books ring a bell?

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/28/1089221657/dont-say-gay-florida-desantis What do you think that is? IT"s fucking Fascism you stooge.

 

[surada]

You literally cannot name a single thing Ron DeSantis has done that is even in the ballpark of fascism. Unlike the left, everything he has done is fully within his power/duties as governor of Florida. Absolutely no gray area at all.

That's a concept the fascist left just cannot grasp.

Fascism is totalitarian, authoritarian, Nationalistic and often racist. Look at the Fascists of the 20th century.

 

[P@triot]

Always the same with the ignorant Trump toadies. They just can't figure out what terms mean.

This from the side that insists that someone with a penis and testicles is a "real woman"

Because liberalism is exclusively built off of pure, raw, emotion, the left is forced to attempt to redefine every word in the English language since all facts, logic, and reason are against them.

 

[BWK]

He loved socialism and implemented socialist policies across the board. He put people in Dachau for the same reason Saddam Hussein executed hundreds of people from his own Ba'ath Party - dictators kill anyone who is a threat to power.

I've explained this to you and embarrassed you in the process in the past. You keep clinging to the lie because you have nothing else

Hitler was a Fascist, period.

 

[P@triot]

Banning books ring a bell?

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/28/1089221657/dont-say-gay-florida-desantis What do you think that is? IT"s fucking Fascism you stooge.

Oh snowflake...your side banned the books!!

Amazon to stop selling books that frame LGBTQ+ identities as mental illness

Retail giant announces decision in letter to Republican US senators about removal of book by conservative academic

www.theguardian.com

 

[surada]

He loved socialism and implemented socialist policies across the board. He put people in Dachau for the same reason Saddam Hussein executed hundreds of people from his own Ba'ath Party - dictators kill anyone who is a threat to power.

I've explained this to you and embarrassed you in the process in the past. You keep clinging to the lie because you have nothing else

Hitler didn't nationalize any industry. You didn't go to college, did you?

 

[P@triot]

Hitler was a Fascist, period.

Yes he was. Just like every member of the Democrat Party today.

Socialism is an economic system. Fascism is a political system. You can be both. And you people are.

Isn't it sad though that I had to explain this to you? You literally didn't even know the difference between political systems and economic systems. Like all on the left, you're not qualified for these discussions.

 

[surada]

This from the side that insists that someone with a penis and testicles is a "real woman"

Because liberalism is exclusively built off of pure, raw, emotion, the left is forced to attempt to redefine every word in the English language since all facts, logic, and reason are against them.

Do you know the difference between biology and psychology?

 

[BWK]

This from the side that insists that someone with a penis and testicles is a "real woman"

Because liberalism is exclusively built off of pure, raw, emotion, the left is forced to attempt to redefine every word in the English language since all facts, logic, and reason are against them.

What aboutism coward! Figures! You are a loser. You go straight to some other card, when the first card won't work. A fucking cop out loser.

Because liberalism is exclusively built off of pure, raw, emotion, the left is forced to attempt to redefine every word in the English language since all facts, logic, and reason are against them. If only you had a link proving that, but you don't. You make shit up out of thin cloth. It's pathetic.

 

[Doug1943]

'Communism' and 'Fascism' are words which are thrown around by both sides. What the people who use them so carelessly seem to mean by them is 'bad', or 'authoritarian'.

Of course, it's a free country (still), so anyone can use any word as they like. But we would have clearer thinking if we used the word 'fascism' in a historically-accurate way.

Up until the First World War, the Right was for tradition, order, slow (if any) change. 'Throne and Altar' (Monarch and Church), plus the Army, was what the Right defended. The Left originated among those who wanted a republic, a constitution, free markets, an extended franchise, free speech.

It's a huge oversimplification, but we can say the Left at that time represented the new classes: merchants, factory owners, the professional middle classes ... as against the Right, based in early social forms: landowners, large and small.

But as capitalism developed and the peasantry started to be replaced by the industrial working class, a new form of 'Left' grew up: the socialist Left, which eventually displaced the original 'bourgeois' Left.

Up until the First World War, this Left was democratic: it championed civil liberties, a wider franchise, peaceful resolution of international disputes.

World War One changed all that. The Left abandoned its internationalist ideals -- each socialist party supported its own government. With one major exception: Russia, where one wing of the socialist movement -- the Bolsheviks -- opposed their own government, and in 1917, seized power in Russia. The chose the name 'Communist' to distinguish themselves from the socialists.

The world socialist movement split, with many socialists becoming Communists. In Russia, the ruling Communists ended up suppressing all other parties, and running a one-party state. (Why this happened is more complicated than it might appear, but that's another discussion.)

So now the Left had two divisions: 'democratic Socialists', and Communists. The former believed in the parliamentary road to socialism. The latter believed that a revolution would be necessary to achieve socialism.

And the Right split as well: seeing the growth of revolutionary elements who were internationalist -- ie anti-patriotic -- in their own country, some forces on the Right departed from the old pro-traditional structures Right, and embraced both the tactics of the Bolsheviks -- a 'combat party' -- and the general social program of the Left: a demagogic superficial anti-capitalism. Thus Mussolini (who had been editor of the pre-war Socialist Party newspaper), and Hitler, who formed the National Socialist German Workers Party.

That's really the origin of 'fascism': a new method of fighting the socialists, using the organizational techniques of the Communists and stealing the general social program of the Left as a whole, but with no intention of actually destroying capitalism.

The word 'fascism' was later broadened to include movements which had the same goal as the fascists -- a one-party state where the unions, the socialist and labor parties (and all others) would be outlawed -- even if these rightwing forces didn't embrace the 'leftist' social program of the original fascists: Franco's movement in Spain is an example.

The Communist and pro-Communist Left has never believed in free speech or civil liberties in general. But the non-Communist Left certainly did. Now that has changed.

We have a new 'Left' which is authoritarian, AND which despises its own working class. It's organized around 'identity politics' -- me-me-, and wants to dissolve all the traditional structures of society. (The old Communists and Socialists were strongly pro-family, and rather prudish in sexual matters. They also strongly embraced reason and science, whereas the new 'Left' is moving rapidly away from belief in objective reality and science. And the old Left was strongly pro-working class, even though the working class in their day was far more socially backward on racial and sexual issues than today's working class.)

So everything has changed. Using 'fascist' or even 'communist' to describe our new 'Left' actually confuses things. We're dealing with a new phenomenon. We don't yet have the words to describe it.

They oppose free speech and civil liberties in general. They have contempt for their own working class. In this sense, in a formal sense, they resemble the old fascist movement. But their origins are quite different, they don't have a political goal other than eating away at traditional society, they are anti-patriotic therefore ... so neither 'fascist' nor 'communist' really describes their essence.

 

[P@triot]

Banning books ring a bell?

https://www.npr.org/2022/03/28/1089221657/dont-say-gay-florida-desantis What do you think that is? IT"s fucking Fascism you stooge.

Oh and DeSanits didn't "ban" a single book. Taking adult content not suitable for children out of public schools isn't "banning" a book

The books are still available to you deviants - even in Florida. Says a lot that you're super pissed you can't get inappropriate adult content in front of children. Says a whole lot.

 

[surada]

Yes he was. Just like every member of the Democrat Party today.

Socialism is an economic system. Fascism is a political system. You can be both. And you people are.

Isn't it sad though that I had to explain this to you? You literally didn't even know the difference between political systems and economic systems. Like all on the left, you're not qualified for these discussions.

Were the Nazis Socialists?

What’s the difference between National Socialists and every other kind of socialist?

www.britannica.com

 

[BWK]

Yes he was. Just like every member of the Democrat Party today.

Socialism is an economic system. Fascism is a political system. You can be both. And you people are.

Isn't it sad though that I had to explain this to you? You literally didn't even know the difference between political systems and economic systems. Like all on the left, you're not qualified for these discussions.

Dude, how many times do we have to tell you, you don't know what the word means. I gave you proof through DeSantis's actions. DeSantis is trying to rob those people of their first amendment rights, and you are too fucking ignorant to know that.

 

[P@triot]

What aboutism coward!

There was no "what-aboutism" there

I pointed out the fact that you people redefine words because you have to. And I proved it with an actual example. And as usual, the facts caused you to have a total meltdown.

 

[P@triot]

I gave you proof through DeSantis's actions.

Bwahahaha!! But you didn't. Like, at all. Because DeSantis has never "banned" a single book in his entire life.

Taking content unsuitable for children out of schools isn't "banning" a book

Do you see how ignorant you are? You were duped to believe something that wasn't true. It's so easy for the left to manipulate you. How sad.

 

[BWK]

Oh and DeSanits didn't "ban" a single book. Taking adult content not suitable for children out of public schools isn't "banning" a book

The books are still available to you deviants - even in Florida. Says a lot that you're super pissed you can't get inappropriate adult content in front of children. Says a whole lot.

What adult content are you talking about? Do you know? Does DeSantis know? I’m a teacher in Florida. Here’s what the book bans look like in my classroom

 

[P@triot]

You are a loser.

The junior highs of the 1980's called - they want their lingo (and maturity) back!

 

[surada]

There was no "what-aboutism" there

I pointed out the fact that you people redefine words because you have to. And I proved it with an actual example. And as usual, the facts caused you to have a total meltdown.

Are you incapable of learning?

Were the Nazis Socialists?

What’s the difference between National Socialists and every other kind of socialist?

www.britannica.com

 

[BWK]

There was no "what-aboutism" there

I pointed out the fact that you people redefine words because you have to. And I proved it with an actual example. And as usual, the facts caused you to have a total meltdown.

This from the side that insists that someone with a penis and testicles is a "real woman" You fool, this isn't what aboutism?