The John Kennedy assassination ..who's who on the Grassy Knoll

[7forever]

What an opposition would have to do is impossible. They would have to prove that Greer's fake hand popping off the wheel in zframe 304 is real. In other words they would fail because Greer's left hand/arm were crossing his right shoulder in both nix and muchmore during the critical frames right before jfk received the headshot. The first thing that happens is, Greer is passing a large covered object from his right to left hand 4 seconds before he fired back. This visual fact has been ignored and in some cases researchers have outright lied about his hands even leaving the wheel.

The covered gun is seen perfectly in 258 with his right suited arm distinguishable.

Greer's left hand cannot be seen returning to the wheel in Zapruder because during the alteration they panned upward to hide when Greer moved his left hand with the gun to near his shoulder, so when he turned the second time to shoot, he just pushed up, over and fired.

Greer's left arm crosses his shoulder in perfect unison with the headshot in nix, proving Zapruder was altered to hide Greer as the real assassin. The same movement happens in muchmore but there's an obstructed view running forward. You can see the white/bleached gun going to the floor after Greer shoots and turns forward.

The fake hand is very obvious without even looking at nix because of Bob Harris's brightening of this footage. No evidence exists that his left hand ever returned to the wheel and all researchers did was ignore that he passed the gun, therefore ignoring he shot jfk and supported a very obviously altered Zfilm because they felt it was politically incorrect to prove this shocking and pathetic fact against american government.

NO HAND OR ARM...there is nothing but some grey thing that tried and failed to mimic a hand but there's one huge problem there. THEY DIDN'T ATTACH A FAKE ARM TO THE FAKE HAND.LOL

If William Greer did not kill Kennedy none of these alterations would have taken place. If Greer didn't shoot jfk his left arm would not be crossing in two other films. If Greer wasn't the assassin he would NOT have passed anything to his left hand. If Greer was innocent it wouldn't look exactly like he shoots jfk with silly FAKE reflections creating that visual at the exact moment jfk's shot in the head. In other words, it is impossible for Greer to be anything but guilty of assassinating John F. Kennedy.

My obsession paid off in the biggest way possible for any truth seekers in this world. Never in this country has there ever been a more epic blunder than those goons in the 60's thinking they could get away with something as silly as using the secret service to kill an American President in an open limousine. Make no mistake that this is not as much me who solved this silly cover-up but the information age.

 

[Obamerican]

What an opposition would have to do is impossible. They would have to prove that Greer's fake hand popping off the wheel in zframe 304 is real. In other words they would fail because Greer's left hand/arm were crossing his right shoulder in both nix and muchmore during the critical frames right before jfk received the headshot. The first thing that happens is, Greer is passing a large covered object from his right to left hand 4 seconds before he fired back. This visual fact has been ignored and in some cases researchers have outright lied about his hands even leaving the wheel.

The covered gun is seen perfectly in 258 with his right suited arm distinguishable.

Greer's left hand cannot be seen returning to the wheel in Zapruder because during the alteration they panned upward to hide when Greer moved his left hand with the gun to near his shoulder, so when he turned the second time to shoot, he just pushed up, over and fired.

Greer's left arm crosses his shoulder in perfect unison with the headshot in nix, proving Zapruder was altered to hide Greer as the real assassin. The same movement happens in muchmore but there's an obstructed view running forward. You can see the white/bleached gun going to the floor after Greer shoots and turns forward.

The fake hand is very obvious without even looking at nix because of Bob Harris's brightening of this footage. No evidence exists that his left hand ever returned to the wheel and all researchers did was ignore that he passed the gun, therefore ignoring he shot jfk and supported a very obviously altered Zfilm because they felt it was politically incorrect to prove this shocking and pathetic fact against american government.

NO HAND OR ARM...there is nothing but some grey thing that tried and failed to mimic a hand but there's one huge problem there. THEY DIDN'T ATTACH A FAKE ARM TO THE FAKE HAND.LOL

If William Greer did not kill Kennedy none of these alterations would have taken place. If Greer didn't shoot jfk his left arm would not be crossing in two other films. If Greer wasn't the assassin he would NOT have passed anything to his left hand. If Greer was innocent it wouldn't look exactly like he shoots jfk with silly FAKE reflections creating that visual at the exact moment jfk's shot in the head. In other words, it is impossible for Greer to be anything but guilty of assassinating John F. Kennedy.

My obsession paid off in the biggest way possible for any truth seekers in this world. Never in this country has there ever been a more epic blunder than those goons in the 60's thinking they could get away with something as silly as using the secret service to kill an American President in an open limousine. Make no mistake that this is not as much me who solved this silly cover-up but the information age.

You're an idiot. Shut the **** up, you thieving piece of shit.

 

[7forever]

Right lateral x-ray shows bullet fragments behind right eye

The Head Shot from the Front
Metallic fragments at exactly the site the autopsy refers to and Greer describing the wound path with the right eye as the start point going back to the rear. Notice the fragments just behind and slightly above the right eyesocket. READ THE STUFF below...it nails it.

The autopsy x-rays contain additional evidence of a frontal shot. Wound ballistics expert Dr. Larry Sturdivan told the HSCA that if an exploding or frangible bullet had struck the skull, it "definitely" would have left a cloud of metal fragments close to the point of entrance:
Mr. MATHEWS. Mr. Sturdivan, taking a look at JFK exhibit F-53, which is an X-ray of President Kennedy's skull, can you give us your opinion as to whether the President may have been hit with an exploding bullet?
Mr. STURDIVAN. . . . In those cases, you would definitely have seen a cloud of metallic fragments very near the entrance wound. (1 HSCA 401)
Dr. Sturdivan was seemingly unaware of the fact that on the unenhanced autopsy x-rays, a cloud of fragments is visible in the right frontal region, which would indicate that a frangible bullet struck in that area. Apparently Dr. Sturdivan only examined the enhanced x-rays and not the original x-rays. Historian Dr. Michael Kurtz comments on Dr. Sturdivan's testimony:
Sturvidan also stated that Kennedy was not struck in the front of the head by an exploding bullet fired from the grassy knoll. The reason, Sturdivan declared, was that the computer-enhanced x-rays of Kennedy's skull do not depict "a cloud of metallic fragments very near the entrance wound." In cases where exploding bullets impact, he asserted that "you would definitely have seen" such a cloud of fragments in the x-ray. Sturdivan's remarks betrayed both his own ignorance of the medical evidence and the committee's careful manipulation of that evidence. Sturdivan saw only the computer-enhanced x-ray of the skull, not the original, unretouched x-rays. Had he seen the originals, he would have observed a cloud of metallic fragments clustered in the right front portion of the head. Furthermore, the close-up photograph of the margins of the large wound in the head shows numerous small fragments. The Forensic Pathology Panel itself noted the presence of "missile dust" near the wound in the front of the head. One of the expert radiologists who examined the x-rays noticed "a linear alignment of tiny metallic fragments" located in the "posterior aspect of the right frontal bone." The chief autopsy pathologist, Dr. James J. Humes, remarked about the numerous metallic fragments like grains of sand scattered near the front head wound. The medical evidence, then, definitely proves the existence of a cloud of fragments in the right front portion of Kennedy's head, convincing evidence, according to Sturdivan, that an exploding bullet actually did strike the president there.

 

[7forever]

JFK'S real assassin was the closest and ironically, most honest witness. Over the right eye, out the right rear, by Billy Greer.

Mr. Specter.
Did you just mention, Mr. Greer, a hole in the President's head in addition to the large area of the skull which was shot away?
Mr. Greer.
No. I had just seen that, you know, the head was damaged in all this part of it but I believe looking at the X-rays, I looked at the X-rays when they were taken in the autopsy room, and the person who does that type work showed us the trace of it because there would be little specks of lead where the bullet had come from here and it came to the--they showed where it didn't come on through. It came to a sinus cavity or something they said, over the eye.

Mr. Specter.
Indicating the right eye. (Greer pointed over his right eye)
Mr. Greer.
I may be wrong.
Mr. Specter.
You don't know which eye?
Mr. Greer.
I don't know which eye, I may be wrong. But they showed us the trace of it coming through but there were very little small specks on the X-rays that these professionals knew what course that the bullet had taken, the lead.
Mr. Specter.
Would you describe in very general terms what injury you observed as to the President's head during the course of the autopsy?

Mr. Greer.
I would--to the best of my recollection it was in this part of the head right here.
Mr. Specter.
Upper right?
Mr. Greer.
Upper right side.
Mr. Specter.
Upper right side, going toward the rear. And what was the condition of the skull at that point?
Mr. Greer.
The skull was completely--this part was completely gone.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

 

[Rat in the Hat]

 

[daws101]

JFK'S real assassin was the closest and ironically, most honest witness. Over the right eye, out the right rear, by Billy Greer.

Mr. Specter.
Did you just mention, Mr. Greer, a hole in the President's head in addition to the large area of the skull which was shot away?
Mr. Greer.
No. I had just seen that, you know, the head was damaged in all this part of it but I believe looking at the X-rays, I looked at the X-rays when they were taken in the autopsy room, and the person who does that type work showed us the trace of it because there would be little specks of lead where the bullet had come from here and it came to the--they showed where it didn't come on through. It came to a sinus cavity or something they said, over the eye.

Mr. Specter.
Indicating the right eye. (Greer pointed over his right eye)
Mr. Greer.
I may be wrong.
Mr. Specter.
You don't know which eye?
Mr. Greer.
I don't know which eye, I may be wrong. But they showed us the trace of it coming through but there were very little small specks on the X-rays that these professionals knew what course that the bullet had taken, the lead.
Mr. Specter.
Would you describe in very general terms what injury you observed as to the President's head during the course of the autopsy?

Mr. Greer.
I would--to the best of my recollection it was in this part of the head right here.
Mr. Specter.
Upper right?
Mr. Greer.
Upper right side.
Mr. Specter.
Upper right side, going toward the rear. And what was the condition of the skull at that point?
Mr. Greer.
The skull was completely--this part was completely gone.

."so you're saying that the worldwide live news broadcast of 911 happened BEFORE the actual event?

 

[7forever]

Jean Hill saw Greer shoot Kennedy
Testimony Of Mrs. Jean Lollis Hill

Mr. SPECTER - What occurred at the time of the fourth shot which you believe you heard?
Mrs. HILL - Well, at that time, of course, there was a pause and I took the other shots---about that time Mary grabbed me and was yelling and I had looked away from what was going on here and I thought, because I guess from the TV and movies, that it was Secret Service agents shooting back. To me, if somebody shoots at somebody they always shoot back and so I just thought that that's what it was and I thought, well, they are getting him and shooting back, you know; I didn't know.

Mr. SPECTER - Where was the President's car at the time you thought you heard the fourth shot?
Mrs. HILL - The motorcade came to almost a halt at the time the shots rang out, and I would say it was just approximately, if not---it couldn't have been in the same position, I'm sure it wasn't, but just a very, very short distance from where it had been. It was just almost stunned.
Mr. SPECTER - And how about the time of the fifth shot, where do you think the President's car was?
Mrs. HILL - That was during those shots, I think it wasn't any further than a few feet---further down.
Mr. SPECTER - Which shots, now---you mean the fourth, and perhaps the fifth and perhaps the sixth shot?
Mrs. HILL - Yes.

Mr. SPECTER - You thought that perhaps the second burst of shots you heard were being directed toward him by the Secret Service?

Mrs. HILL - I Just thought, "Oh, goodness, the Secret Service is shooting back."

Mr. SPECTER - What was your impression as to the source of the second group of shots which you have described as the fourth, perhaps the fifth, and perhaps the sixth shot?
Mrs. HILL - Well, nothing, except that I thought that they were fired by someone else.
Mr. SPECTER - And did you have any idea where they were coming from?
Mrs. HILL - No; as I said, I thought they were coming from the general direction of that knoll.
Mr. SPECTER - Well, did you think that the Secret Service was firing them from that knoll?
Mrs. HILL - I said I didn't know-I really don't.
Mr. SPECTER - You just had the general impression that shots were coming from the knoll?
Mrs. HILL - Yes.

Mr. SPECTER - And you had the general impression that the Secret Service was firing the second group of shots at the man who fired the first group of shots?
Mrs. HILL - That's right.

Mr. SPECTER - But you had no specific impression as to the source of those shots?
Mrs. HILL - No.

Jean Hill was looking at the limo when Greer shot Jfk.

 

[7forever]

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Indeed, look at how impossible that reflection is, as it recoils and Roy's head moves forward leaving it behind.LOL Liar, you remain a liar and will always avoid reality.

You are transparent.

trans·par·ent adj \tran(t)s-ˈper-ənt\
Definition of TRANSPARENT

2a : free from pretense or deceit : frank b : easily detected or seen through : obvious c : readily understood d : characterized by visibility or accessibility of information especially concerning the driver shooting JFK.

 

[7forever]

So, 7forever, are you ever going to show some corroborating evidence? You told me a long time ago that there is "a lot of easy to read corroboration", that you have never presented. You have never answered any of the questions I have asked concerning your claims about the Z film. You won't address any of the known evidence that excludes Greer as a shooter, except to claim "it's faked". So, it's time to put up or shut up!

I answered every question about Greer's guilt. What have I missed? The hand is proven fake at 304 by showing it cross in nix and muchmore. That's the case right there. Furthermore, the disinfo kooks simply ignored that Greer passed the gun and skipped to the fake hand. They cheated and got away with it until I started pointing out what they weren't telling their readers or whomever they were fooling.

 

[7forever]

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I didn't ask about a gun or a gun being covered. For the sake of argument, lets say he does everything you say with the gun.
I want to know, in your opinion, how he shot at Kennedy with Connolly positioned where he was. He is obviously up against his wife. Your theory is obviously that he shot between the two of them..........that is what the drawing that you post shows.
I am asking, how is that possible to pull off, while driving and not actually aiming the weapon?

I don't give a **** what you asked about. The case against Greer has been made and proven beyond doubt and the opposition which does not exist cannot answer the evidence. That is what happens in the real world. You're living in a fanstasy world because the message board format allows it. You never have to answer the evidence, just change the subject to moot points. If Greer didn't shoot jfk then why is the object covered? It's covered because he passed the gun he shot Kennedy with, most likely a 38 revolver.

 

[7forever]

"He wasn't in the way BECAUSE Greer shot jfk"

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You can't get past the evidence that proves Greer shot jfk and the government tried to hide it. If Greer did not pass a gun then why they would place something over the object he passed?

When you realize you have no evidence for your claim, you just make another claim: "that the film has been faked".
Claim: Greer has a gun.
Rebuttal: A gun cannot be seen in any film.
Claim: It's been covered up.
Rebuttal: We can see Greer's hand.........empty.
Claim: The hand is fake. His real hand is going up over his right shoulder with the gun.
Rebuttal: What you say is a gun, is the reflection off the top of Kellerman's head.
Claim: That is fake. That's what covers the gun.
Rebuttal: Why then does the reflection move with Kellerman's head and not with Greer's arm?
Claim: Greer shot Kennedy, none of this other stuff matters!! (said red faced and pounding fists)

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You won't admit you have no defense for your delusions, but change the subject and never address what you could never explain.

Fact: Greer has a gun.
Failure: It could be a gun but it's covered.
Fact: If it's not a gun then why would the object be covered?
Failure: I don't know why?LOL
Fact: The hand is proven fake by showing his left arm crossing in both other films.
Failure: What you say is a gun is the reflection he passsed from his right to left hand.LOL
Fact: The reflection is fake because it recoils and separates from Roy's head. His left arm crossing is the reason why three fake reflections were added to Zapruder, to mirror Greer's arm movements when he shot jfk.
Failure: Why then does the reflection move with Kellerman's head and not with Greer's arm?
Fact: Because during the alteration they took Kellerman's movements to block the gun's view and added obvious fake reflections (to the Zfilm) that look exactly like a gun, hand, and arm which mimic Greer's true arm movements that are seen clearly in the nix and muchmore films.

 

[Obamerican]

you can't get past the evidence that proves greer shot jfk and the government tried to hide it. if greer did not pass a gun then why they would place something over the object he passed?

when you realize you have no evidence for your claim, you just make another claim: "that the film has been faked".
Claim: Greer has a gun.
Rebuttal: A gun cannot be seen in any film.
Claim: It's been covered up.
Rebuttal: We can see greer's hand.........empty.
Claim: The hand is fake. His real hand is going up over his right shoulder with the gun.
Rebuttal: What you say is a gun, is the reflection off the top of kellerman's head.
Claim: That is fake. That's what covers the gun.
Rebuttal: Why then does the reflection move with kellerman's head and not with greer's arm?
Claim: Greer shot kennedy, none of this other stuff matters!! (said red faced and pounding fists)

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you won't admit you have no defense for your delusions, but change the subject and never address what you could never explain.

fact: Greer has a gun.
Failure: It could be a gun but it's covered.
fact: If it's not a gun then why would the object be covered?
Failure: I don't know why?lol
fact: The hand is proven fake by showing his left arm crossing in both other films.
Failure: What you say is a gun is the reflection he passsed from his right to left hand.lol
fact: The reflection is fake because it recoils and separates from roy's head. His left arm crossing is the reason why three fake reflections were added to zapruder, to mirror greer's arm movements when he shot jfk.
Failure: Why then does the reflection move with kellerman's head and not with greer's arm?
fact: Because during the alteration they took kellerman's movements to block the gun's view and added obvious fake reflections (to the zfilm) that look exactly like a gun, hand, and arm which mimic greer's true arm movements that are seen clearly in the nix and muchmore films.

kenendy?????

 

[7forever]

The gif that's all over the web was enhanced, but this is the original pulled from Robert Groden's video which was probably done in the eighties or nineties.

I had it enhanced back in January, 2011. It very clearly shows his left arm crossing with the headshot. A lot of well known researchers have known of Greer's guilt for decades and kept it under wraps but the information age finally caught up with this epic blunder committed by government in 1963.

jfk assassination films-orville nix - Video Dailymotion 1:09

 

[LA RAM FAN]

You can't get past the evidence that proves Greer shot jfk and the government tried to hide it. If Greer did not pass a gun then why they would place something over the object he passed?

When you realize you have no evidence for your claim, you just make another claim: "that the film has been faked".
Claim: Greer has a gun.
Rebuttal: A gun cannot be seen in any film.
Claim: It's been covered up.
Rebuttal: We can see Greer's hand.........empty.
Claim: The hand is fake. His real hand is going up over his right shoulder with the gun.
Rebuttal: What you say is a gun, is the reflection off the top of Kellerman's head.
Claim: That is fake. That's what covers the gun.
Rebuttal: Why then does the reflection move with Kellerman's head and not with Greer's arm?
Claim: Greer shot Kennedy, none of this other stuff matters!! (said red faced and pounding fists)

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You won't admit you have no defense for your delusions, but change the subject and never address what you could never explain.

Fact: Greer has a gun.
Failure: It could be a gun but it's covered.
Fact: If it's not a gun then why would the object be covered?
Failure: I don't know why?LOL
Fact: The hand is proven fake by showing his left arm crossing in both other films.
Failure: What you say is a gun is the reflection he passsed from his right to left hand.LOL
Fact: The reflection is fake because it recoils and separates from Roy's head. His left arm crossing is the reason why three fake reflections were added to Zapruder, to mirror Greer's arm movements when he shot jfk.
Failure: Why then does the reflection move with Kellerman's head and not with Greer's arm?
Fact: Because during the alteration they took Kellerman's movements to block the gun's view and added obvious fake reflections (to the Zfilm) that look exactly like a gun, hand, and arm which mimic Greer's true arm movements that are seen clearly in the nix and muchmore films.

there you go again acting like Moron In That Hat addressing a post from a long time ago.

 

[7forever]

William Robert Greer was JFK's real assassin (1909-1985)

One other point. The Zapruder film has been proven to have been altered. You can't say it proves Greer's innocence unless you look at all his movements, which includes that both his hands were off the wheel 4 seconds before he shot jfk. Tools attempted to use the fake evidence and at the same time ignore real evidence that incriminated Greer.

"There was a conspiracy. We know because the Zapruder film was been altered because his left hand left the wheel in Zapruder and crossed his right shoulder in both other films, solving this idiotic cover up once and for all.

"Do you have any proof of the conspiracy?"

"Yes, we have evidence from the Zapruder, nix, and muchmore films. A fake two dot hand occurs between 303-304. No fake arm attachment and Greer's left arm crossing in nix.

 

[Liability]

The claim of alteration is unsubstantiated.

IQof.7forever is making shit up then using his fictionalized (and yet still utterly unpersuasive) premise as the key point in an "argument" that makes no sense of any kind to any rational person.

There is not one coherent reason on the face of God's green Earth to imagine (much less believe) that Greer shot President Kennedy -- or that guy Kenendy.

 

[7forever]

It shows Roy's head functioning as the gun with emitting muzzle blast smoke before it extends in sync with the front right entrance and fake mist. The gun was really at the level of his right shoulder hidden by Kellerman's head. Also, notice the all-important splice in Zapruder after the shot. Greer's extended elbow can be seen forming by the door.LOL

 

[Liability]

It shows Roy's head functioning as the gun with emitting muzzle blast smoke before it extends in sync with the front right entrance and fake mist. The gun was really at the level of his right shoulder hidden by Kellerman's head. Also, notice the all-important splice in Zapruder after the shot. Greer's extended elbow can be seen forming by the door.LOL

It "shows" nothing even remotely of the sort.

 

[Peach]

It shows Roy's head functioning as the gun with emitting muzzle blast smoke before it extends in sync with the front right entrance and fake mist. The gun was really at the level of his right shoulder hidden by Kellerman's head. Also, notice the all-important splice in Zapruder after the shot. Greer's extended elbow can be seen forming by the door.LOL

It "shows" nothing even remotely of the sort.

Those who did the ballistics on the rifle must have been part of the drivers' team of co conspirators, I gather?